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animals deep in the sea where no human are reached a born with deformities because of adam's apple? and yet, they don't even know we exist? this is fundamentally flawed!

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Well it feels like an anti-immigration propaganda,  though,  I mean,  really! but still atheists are not in a hurry to fill the world where as everyone else is very busy  so,

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Yet there others who are in greater need?

@Pastor AIO it will be nice if you answered the questions, or at least make an attempt, or perhaps acknowledge the shortcoming of the Bible/Jesus/God.

Every time god supposedly answers a prayer or performs a "miracle," Christians are amazed. I don't know about you, but I don't send an email, or update my Facebook status every time I flip a switch and the lights come on; I would, however, if I fundamentally believed that they wouldn't work.

The bible says that god is supposed to answer prayer. There should be no surprise in something doing what it's supposed to do. "The microwave heated my food!" "My calculator solved a math problem!" One would only hear such exclamations if the person making them did not expect that result. There has to be a very strong element of doubt in the Christian mind in order for there to be such awe at answered prayer

We know that Jesus is notI "the root and the offspring of David" hahaha it was Joseph who was in that line, not Mary so, unless you are saying God had sex with Joseph to beget Jesus,

You see , suddenly no one has anything of note to say, tsk tsk tsk, even Pastor AIO?

@davidylan attack? please expound, many people talk about being insulted our attacked by atheists, but are not bringing the evidence to go along with it.

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He is following Jesus' example.

Jesus calls a Caananite woman a dog when she asks him to help her sick daughter. He says he only helps Jews.

He later relents because she shows great faith, ha ha ha

Matthew 15:22-28 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession.” Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.” He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.” The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said. He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to their dogs.” “Yes, Lord,” she said, “but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters’ table.” Then Jesus answered, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour.

another good one below

"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters — yes, even his own life — he cannot be my disciple." Luke 14:26

@Tsammy "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Luke 22:36

@frosbel mars? please expound. It seems you are the one who is making this extra ordinary claim.

@italo all you have to do is give yourself to Jesus, and of course the doors of heaven stand ajar.

@Tsammy, like the order Jesus gave his disciples.
Luke 19:27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ because it clearly highlights points of interest in the bible that are easy to miss.

@vedaxcool you have to believe in God to believe in the Devil. They are in the inseparable twins. God cant exist without the devil, it means no sin, no freewill, no nothing.

righteousness === obnoxious arrogance and self justification

Are there any similarities between a dog and no dog?

@frosbel so you are now like God? good progress, you are starting to get it. God's image or simply just God.

But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'" Luke 19:27

Where is the difference? between the Bible God and the other so called barbaric Gods?a
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@frosbel you sound confused

1. You don't have to be a christian to give, first.
2. Which poor people do you give to? some are clearly undeserving, they are already shooting up drugs with what you gave them last, Also the children home you donated to is raping boys , do we give them anyway?
3. Is giving everything a reasonable request? What if you give everything you have and starve to death. Like the woman that Jesus praised? Where did Jesus say we draw the line? what if she died out of poverty because she did not have anything else and no means to provide for her self?
4. Do we give all to the church? and what if they are not deserving, driving big cars? using it for dowry? wasting it on fancy furniture? do we give still?
5. Do I snatch off the plate of my kids and my plate to give others, ?
6. Is giving left to my discretion or my holy spirit will guide me?. If you say the Holy Spirit, does that then explain Christians are not giving enough, like the woman Jesus praised? some don't give at all, is that the Holy Spirit still?
7. Once we have done all the giving ( to church, to the poor etc) how is the money given used up, Where are the laws of how it is distributed? and to whom by whom? does it matter if it is squandered?

@ Pastor AIO
Are we completely disassociating ourselves with the old testament? Jesus will not be happy about this.

point taken

@dirtygamer
evolution,  is why we scientists are known to be patient.
Patient enough to study things that will take a lot more time than we can imagine and understand how things happen.
Creation is instant, 7 days,  right? People reached Australia in an instant. And "adapted" an instant too?
Different races difference planets, different belief systems, in an instant?
Evolution is a far credible explanation to instant creation.
That's why,  harakiri told you,  about about ID. Have you heard of Intelligent Design?
Extinction of species also determines what animals/plants we have now *e,g dodos, tasmanian devils,  we have seen these disappear,  how does instantaneous creation explanation this?

@Deep Sight first I'd like to see where I have insulted you, you use such strong words.
All I am saying is that people hallucinate, you know that, I know that, it is a fact.
Every person has every right to give his or her experience undue importance, why, it is the ego, and nothing is more important than that. I don't deny you this right.
Many people can share the same hallucinations. Hiding behind numbers does not make things veritable.

And like I said, not being religious is a great step forward, I applaud you for that.

you said,

In light of the subject of this thread, how can any christian claim that his wealth and possessions are his evidence that God is blessing him and he is close to God?

What it also brings to my attention is the issue of Value. Especially when you consider that Value is what we are all pursuing and it is in fact that motivation of all dynamics/movement/behaviour.

and i am saying, by showing Job's story as an good illustration of how "wealth and possessions are his evidence that God is blessing him".