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flesh is not an enemy. It is not an entity for you to become angry with either.
yes you seem to be obsessed by it, there is no doubt about it.
But what you need to do is learn how to control your fleshy desires that's all.
And that's is not done by calling it an enemy but understanding yourself and your weaknesses.

@plappville

If God is fair,  then as he opens his hands wide when being praised he must also be able to take some criticism. Otherwise you cannot possibly call him fair.

It is not silly because of what  I believe, if you remove the "God" element it not fair. So why should it be fair when you put it back?

It is a gamble that God will always win at all costs.

If you suffer it is because your faith is weak. Yet you and I know it is in the poor neighborhoods where faith is strong and it weans as you start moving to the richer regions. Yet God rewards the rich and punishes the poor.

People have submitted everything to God, head down bottom up turned mouth in the dirt, or even prostrated themselves on their bellies arms raised for god , ready for anything and everything ,  compete and utter submissions and they just watched their babies starve to death as they prayed and gyrated for God.

Who are you to sit back and judge and say those people had doubt? that they did not submit? As you swing in great luxury receiving one reward from God after another, miracle upon the next, who are you to judge the ones that suffer so harshly?

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@plappville
"i will say yes, a christian who can be hurt by these satanic forces is a weak one. One needs to be holy to be above Satan and his forces."
This is what you call a silly reason.
It gives self-righteous Christians like you room to criticize Christians (including yourself) instead of blaming God for not doing what he claims he can do.
So long as something does not work, it is because you did not have enough faith.
If it works, then you had enough faith.
This is a win-win scenario for God. But not for you.

@Image123
You are just excusing God for sleeping on the job.
If God does not heal the sick he does not.
You don't have to fish for something good in your life to attribute it to God. That's just desperation.
Cycling through everything and forcing yourself to call something a blessing that's just ridiculous.

@All Christians
No one can be hurt by witchcraft
Because it is fake
It is that simple, that's why Atheists can't be hurt by it either.
So it is wrong to actually give Jesus all the credit when it is not due.

Moreover, that's why it is only Christians who are attacked/confronted by devil worshipers.
You have to believe in God to believe in the Devil. You have to believe in the Devil to need God.
Partners in crime.

@Da floxy

I know that you personally do not want ill to befall me, and I am grateful you have reiterated that.

However, it is not you, it is that spirit in you. When Islamist turn to suicide bombers they are doing it for Allah. So in your defense you are can say you are doing it for Jesus. And you will be right because in Luke 19:27 Jesus says "But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”

And there lies the danger.

You are sure that Jesus makes you a better person but in reality, He does quite the opposite. And makes you do things you would not have otherwise done. You need to sit back and reflect.

I am sure you know there is at least some truth in what I am saying.

And your destiny is flesh?

to see flesh?

@mazaje and these same Christians say that they should not judge others, now they are even cursing,,, ha ha ha

@jayriginal haaha yes it is very funny how Christians behave sometimes

@Da floxy ha hahahahahah you see how Christians curse so easily like witch doctors so similar, in more ways than you can imagine

@davidiyke explosions happen a lot in space and they can be observed. if you take out your telescope and look beyond the moon, you will see just how credible the "explosion" story is.

no one can be hurt by witchcraft because it is fake except those who believe in it or other innocent victims attacked physically by other who believe in it,  it is a  lot like Christianity.

@ i.chuka how unfortunate it seems you are using at outdated dictionary, try dictionary.com, or google.com
we do not define words at will, we either know what they mean or we dont

@Nimshi
The baby died, you see
That's the testimony
we get to hear of the success, when God gave life what about when he ripped it away from a mother's breast
so to answer

Well . . . this may be exceptional.

1) How old was the woman when she got married?
<<I don't know, it is a fictional item just to portray that as God gives to the unexpected he also takes away from those who least expect, it cuts both ways>>

2) Are we sure she revealed all involved in her pregnancy? There're women who seek advanced medical intervention while also praying; curiously, they attribute any ensuing success to the power of prayers, alone, of course.

<<success of giving birth at an old age has nothing to do with God naturally, because God needs to exist first
>>

All I am asking is, what about the other side of the coin? the dark side, are those testimonies too? when God doesn't give you what you want and you die like that?

We must refrain from the temptations of seeking refuge in conspiracies, most things are complex and need complex solutions. It is easy to look someone to demonize.

When there are problems we seek refuge in conspiracies, this is not a very healthy habit.

I have another testimony too

A woman has be married for 25 years and had been waiting upon the lord ever since. She gave birth 9 months ago after having carried the baby for the normal 9months. The baby died yesterday morning . Her testimony about the miracle of birth was shared with the assembly members just after she gave birth.

God is "awesome"

@Ogaga4Luv very well said, !!!!
"Ask yourself: If you were god, would you want your people to build churches in YOUR honor, kill other people in YOUR name and take one day off in seven to praise YOU? If your answer is yes I’m glad I’m not YOUR child."
I think when we were young we were taught that we should fear God.
I thought fear was a different way of saying respect.
But in reality, if I was a Christian I would truly fear God. He is obnoxious, blood thirsty, vain, inconsistent, too much power and very little understanding of what to do with it, He is indeed a very fearful creature.

When does water stop being symbolic and start being H20
This is a very silly argument

@frosbel shouting does to make someone true/false
atheist don't hate the bible, it is one of the key evidences that we have that we are right

I really don't see why Christians can't get this
If Newton discovered gravity, it does not matter if he is a devil worshipper
What comes up must come down
It does not change the fact
We are concerned about facts not petty things like what kind of sex styles the guy used to like and definitely not what fairy tales the guy used to believe in(that include Jesus btw)
This is inconsequential

@Nimshi
It comes to no great surprise that maxpro-xl had the wrong picture of JWs, this is typical, but is not excusable.
When you say you love someone it goes against love to actually fall prey to petty prejudices and misunderstandings

@ maxpro-xl
I think an apology is due, to this lady from maxpro-xl
I cannot begin to imagine what she has gone through in her journey to be at your side, It must have been terribly difficult for her, and it is extremely insensitive of you to behave this way
Religion like love can cloud your judgement, no doubt, you need to actually take a pause and reflect. You are being unfair. I don't know how many times you need to hear this to believe it.
It is tempting to side with people who agree on your views when it comes to making this hard decisions but please don't
If how your have understood her religion is a reflection of how you have understood her, then honestly you are doing to have problems
They say you should not rush into marriage. This is not about calendar days necessarily but actually taking your time to understand someone.
I repeat again, God to her church, read her books and eat her food. Go to her home and stay with her family.
You have to come from your high horse and meet this lady. (stop being a prick!!!)
In the end, we are not so different, human beings of whatever culture and religion are surprisingly similar, why be so hang up on petty issues.
She is a JW, but she is educated, healthy and beautiful. There is a (I hope) a lot more to this woman that the JW aspect.

On religion you say.
You say your bible is perfect
her's is flawed
I think you have no real authority to say this without knowing JW.
As Nimshi said, you got your facts wrong. JW is not what you think it is.

I actually think you are both very wrong. I am an atheist. But if she was my woman to be, I would go to the JW church. And study it. And slowly convince her through reason. Not force, not blackmail.
If you went to her church will your God strike your dead?

This is not a religious argument about who is right? but it is about love and understanding. The argument needs to take another dimension.

You are extremely bigoted and full of hatred of other people with other believes. And there lies the problem. you are the problem. fix yourself.
Why such deep hate,

It is funny how Christians attack other Christians, Why because someone believes something a little different from you? what a shame,

It is funny how Christians attack other Christians,  Why because someone believes something a little different from you? What a shame

Please for those who are ascending to heaven here is some good advise, 
1. Do not drive, don't cook on that day so that you don't cause problems when you ascend
2. Please look for someone to take care of your pets when you go ( very important)
3. Make sure you leave a clear list of tasks that need to be done when you go
4. Don't go on a killing rampage,  just because you are leaving us,  does not mean you take out your enemies,  just go as you are

I wonder why pastors don't spend time telling Christians what to do before the rapture. it is very irresponsible.

here is a nice video on the same ( different date thought)
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@thehomer good advise there, it is just that, I was sure Creationists would be at 99.9%,

It is amazing a whopping 41.4 % are not for creationist fairy tale,  wow this is amazing,  I think this poll is very edifying

@ 5 at both, wow still leading nice

@i.chuka
I have gone through your post, and you are just shouting the word flesh over and over again, as if you are in a dilemma of sorts, are you getting tempted, is that what this is all about? Because that would have just simplified everything confess!

@Joagbaje I understand that is why Christians are so obsessed with Sex. and talk about it 24/7. Challenges of the flesh.
I think Sex therapy sessions are in order.