₦airaland Forum

Pennywise: @Topic, policy makers should put the needs of the nation and her citizens first. Bogus academic programs cannot and should not be used as a tool to secure undeserved advantage. People's lives are involved.

NUC should take responsibility for its indecision. It should be seen in its pronouncements to be above the murky waters of unprofessional trade union politics.

adeola_drg: So the ones that study optometry are not called doctors? The MBBS graduates we call doctors have PhD? And how do architects and pharmacists even correlate? Are you this dumb? You say we spend 6 years in school and want to be called 'doctor', how many years do MBBS graduates spend? Is not 6 years?

Those ones that studied pharmacy abroad should not be referred to as doctors?


Okay, the doctor thing is painful shey? I'm very sorry about that! When it is approved, u can swallow a bottle of methanol and ease your frustration. Oops!!

Kanayo Ikeh: I think D pharm is really important and will greatly increase quality patient care. Same for DMLS. Maybe even more

moonberry: Thanks for the opportunity, I am asthmatic and recently I have been using a drug dexamethasone for the past one month it works well, but I have been having leg pains and its getting worse so I have decided to stop the drug for now cos I can't bear the the pain. I have also decided to concentrate on using calcium cos I feel maybe I have used an overdose of the drug that's why I am having the pain. please I need your advice.

evanscheck: who is this, what did u just say- did u just refer to pharmacist as wannabe doctors ,i don't blame u. i blame the stupid system in Nigeria that place doctors above in the hospital sector. i blame the nurses for not knowing their worth and standing their ground when it comes to a matter of fact. i blame Nigeria for not encouraging investors and other foreign people when they want to set up a pharmaceutical firm. i blame psn and pcn for not living up to reputation of their name.

youngRx: and wats so special about d title "dr" if i may ask??

Samakinr: ....okay...'i got it. The PharmD is the only degree that will label you as a professional pharmacist... Truth you are right. I got my info wrong. I was actually mistaking the UK systems with the US'....BUT adeola, dnt you think there may be difficulty in career progression in this our pharmacy?... I really want to go into this drug production and research...bt the US gives preference to Biochemists and chemists for a career in medicinal chemistry...rather than the PharmD nt to even talk of the Bpharm. Holy spirit help me

obayaya: Honey, I'm tired!!! I've given up.

I hate the hospitals, the sight of blood and the smell of drugs. Do you still want me to enter Pharm.D?

adeola_drg: My brother, I'll take time to go through that link. I find it hard to believe that B.pharm still exists in the US, Pharm zeezahbee, is this true?


What I learnt is that b.pharm has been phased out in the US. If it exists, then why do u need a conversion program to work as a pharmacist in the US?

Until I learn otherwise, for me it's outdated.

obayaya: Ok o

ACM10: You still don't get it. My emphasis is on NITTY-GRITTY(most important aspects of the course).

Pathology is made up of MICROBIOLOGY, MORBID ANATOMY, HAEMATOLOGY/IMMUNOLOGY, and CHEMICAL PATHOLOGY. Each of these courses have sub-divisions. Doctors studied these courses in details. Take a look at the curriculum of the doctors in training to learn more. Studying few aspects of these courses is grossly inadequate to prepare you for the challenges of confronting patients.

adeola_drg: I'm a 300L student there..

Samakinr: k. Good girl,...heheheh. I didn't say the UCL offers PharmD. I said they run they run the M Pharm for a cumulative years of 4yrs....my dear i hope you read the link you posted. (btw, something caught my heart on your posting this,..i will soon tell ya)

Shori: and who's talking about a pharmacist ''treating'' a patient?

Samakinr: ....if have been agreeing with you all this while, but give me one reason why you actually think the B Pharm is OUTDATED. That's really my problem...it's not even outdated in the US we are copying. PharmD has been on in the US since 1970 and yet the B Pharm is never labelled as outdated. Adeola, jxt see it like this, PharmD for clinically oriented pharmacists and the B pharm for the manufacturers, researchers, and quality controls....so i actually hate you label the B pharm as outdated. Give us respects, that's my second degree

Samakinr: ...I am serious...and meanwhile, they don't do o'level in the UK. THEY USE A-LEVEL. And u must at least AAB...nothing less before you can have an admission into any school of pharmacy. By AAB, i meant A, A, B, in the three of mathematics, chemistry and biology. Though in other parts of Europe, the situation is different. You must spend your 5yrs singbain for a B. Pharm and 6yrs for your PharmD.... A point of correction here, the D (doctorate degree) in Pharmacy is different from PharmD (doctor of pharmacy).... Uh. Okay, we all need more enlightenment here. Pharmacy is not a sole requisite for producing, discovery or testing of new drugs. You can't even be employed into a drug producing company unless you have a doctorate/M.phil in Medicinal chemistry...and of course, a chemistry, biochemistry, biotechnology graduate can also function in that role...hence the reason why the western countries brought up the idea of making the pharmacists more patient oriented(pharmD) while still leaving a lee way for the pharmacists who want to function in drug production/dispensing(pharmcognosy, pharmaceutical chemistry)....ah its not easy to type, sorry for any incoherence

obayaya: Lmao!!!

Ok!!! Now step aside sir/ma'am

Samgreguc: M.D? I rejected studying medicine for Pharmacy.

Samgreguc: bros, y must u na? With ur O'level u go proceed to do pharmacy for 3yrs? Haba mana brossss. . .

Samakinr: ...ah what is this one saying...you think everyone argues like you on a factless point?.....go to university college, London...and come back to talk with me. Bro

obayaya: I've been on this thread since morning waiting for the people that understands to make their submissions.

Until then, make they throw the damn Pharm.D degree into Bermuda triangle make person hear word.

adeola_drg: U're wrong here ma.. Pharmacists are not confined to just drugs. Let Google be ur friend plsss

Evergreen123: I know one optometrist that prides himself as an eye doctor, forgetting that optometrist job Is limited to the lenses while ophthalmology is a whole new level which will require 6year undergraduate medical training and another 5 years of residency in OPTHALMOLOGY.
I don't argue with him based on that cos I don't want him to take it personal and feel bad, on a good day, he is a nice person.
If not, I no dey use my ear to listen to that kind of trash.

adeola_drg: U're one brilliant doctor I respect on NL. I'm surprised u still don't get the gist!

Forget the drug Lord name. Pharmacists don't just want to sit and dispense no more. That's so last century!!! We want to interact with the patients, doctors and nurses in the wards. Our mates everywhere is into this already, just naija!

Samakinr: ...chairman get your facts right. They do run Pharm D as a baccalaureate degree too in the us. And its only for 6yrs. In the UK, the pharmacy degree is infact run for only 3yrs. Do 4yrs, and you are a masters in pharm. I don't actually support the Pharm D...I'm just correcting you

the general84: Medical students do a course called pathology/ lab medicine. This course includes: haematology, medical microbiology, chemical pathology and pathology
Microbiology is not Pathology and vice versa

bbdd: hello zee
Please is Nipost OK for mailing transcripts? Don't want to spend so much.
Did i mention that i also have one year research intern experience and also worked in a capacity as a lab assistant while in final year helping lecturers in the lab (pharm chem practicals) for second year students.
I'm trying to see if i can use those things to brush up the package....what do you think

Samgreguc: Pharm. D? B. Pharm?
Pharm. D encompases wider curriculum than B. Pharm so, a graduate of Pharm. D can do what a grad. Of B. Pharm will do. The additions starts from 400level.
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Will it be of help? YES of cos.
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What is it about that title Dr?
It wunt be fair if you possess a Doctor of Pharmacy degree and wunt bear Dr.
Bt, the fact that u bear Dr doesnt change the fact that you are a Pharmacist.
. . . . . Most of those studying Medicine dont really knw that their real name is Physician and dat the DOCTOR title in full is MEDICAL DOCTOR so also the pharm. D owner is PHARMACEUTICAL DOCTOR(DOCTOR of PHARMACY).
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As for the person asking if we study Pathology as a pharm. Student. In my UNIPORT FACULTY OF PHARMACY curricullum(which is alike everywhere) Pathology is done in 300level. Common sense will even tell u that u must knw of a disease to bring a drug for it.
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sikells: this post is just not encouraging at all..why must doctors always have problems with other health professionals?y do they seek to control all health professions...health professionals are supposed to work together..little wonder why our health system is just nothing to write home about

ACM10: For the first time we are on the same side of the debate.

It is every paramedics desire to bear the title 'Dr', but none of them wants to pass through the medical school and study the nitty-gritty of Anatomy, Physiology, Biochemistry, Pharmacology and Pathology. I was teaching a Med. Lab student Immunology, he continued to interrupt me, telling me that I was paying attention to details, reminding me that he is not a studying Med/Surg. Explaining further that he only need a general overview of the course to enable him pass exam. Tommorrow, the same guy will rub shoulders with doctors in the hospital.