₦airaland Forum

Fernandeswagger:
South Africans were able to look after their country. You mean the white South Africans?!
These are the people who built strong institutions and are doing everything possible to ensure that it stays that way.

You guys just hide behind them to form this advanced country. Please take the whites away for a year and watch South Africa become another third world country or something worse.

South Africans are smart, remember what Nelson Mandela said’ don’t chase whites they have money and experience, learn from them’

Fernandeswagger:
Sorry I'm a little lost here. The number of whites doesn't matter because you can't tell me the number has reduced since the blacks started ruling. It was just the system of government practiced at the time! So it still goes back to the main argument, if Nigerians worshipped whites while the South Africans don't, why did apartheid end fairly recently?

Trust me without other countries like Nigeria supporting the black South Africans apartheid would have been running till now. It was beginning to look like modern day slavery all over again, the whites had to buckle from international pressure and let you guys mingle.

The reason It was simple for Nigeria to chase whites is that population of whites was less than 1% in Nigeria.
It was diff fo SAns because SA white population was more Than 15% .

SilentQueen:
Seriously you need help ... So Nigerian that was attacked during the xenophobic attack are all illegal immigrants

South African especially the black ones are lazy, jealous, brutal and very savage set of people, all thanks to the white amongst them that is developing the country!

But Nigerians are very intelligent, hard-working, industrious people, our only problem is our corrupt leaders

Don’t hide by leaders, who elected those leaders.
Nigerians are purely lazy people who cannot think for future.
For example most Nigerians are not paying for tax, therefore how do you expect Nigeria to grow.

For your information South Africa is ruled by white people.

Electrochemistry:
There're no bases for comparison. The two countries are demographically different. Nigeria has one race South Africa has more than one race.
Black African 48,640,000
Colored 5,295,000
White 4,662,000
Indian/Asianv1,545,000

In Nigeria only black Africans are present.
Nigeria has over 250 ethnic groups, the most populous and politically influential being Hausa-Fulani 29%, Yoruba 21%, Igbo (Ibo) 18%, Ijaw 10%, Kanuri 4%, Ibibio 3.5%, Tiv 2.5%. It also has over 500 languages, with English being the official language.

The common thing btw this countries is that leaders are African people

Grgton:
Nigeria is no way better than SA: . Despite having both human and natural resources... That's just the reality.

Deal with it. .. .

Correct

Razgas:
you don't also consider that colonisation created the problem we have in Nigeria? The different ethnic groups of Nigeria have only skin colour in common especially the Muslims in the North and Christians of the South. They would always have difficulty getting along. Why do you think the EU don't want to accept Turkey? Because of ideological differences.
We are also solving our problems and are unlikely to have another civil war despite petty armed struggles here and there

The main problem with Nigeria is that Nigerians are fighting because of foreign religions.

Razgas:
Lol this is so laughable. Midland and sandton are just neighbourhoods of Johannesburg. Steyn city is a housing estate. You have no new cities. Even some of your more vocal compadres here admit that ANC have built no new cities.
Black South Africans have no solid achievements of their own. All visible and known achievements in South Africa are from your colonial era.
Let's call a spade what it is please. You are conversing with intelligent people here not bantus

Before 94 black schools were built by mud, now there is No mud schools.
Before 94 schools were using pit toilet, now pit toilet are eradicated
Before 94 less than 10% had access to electricity and water, now every one has access.
Sandton and midrand were suburbs before 94, now they are cities.

Rugaria:
South Africans don't fear whites and Nigerians fear whites? What are you smoking? Some wet Zulu weed? Nigerians fear which whites? The ones we chased away from here and they ran down south to enslave you till we came down and forced them to free you in the 90s?

You're more intelligent than Nigerians yet you are the one burning fellow Africans alive all over your cities to "protect your jobs"!? How can the "more intelligent" resort to terrorism to protect that which he can easily keep with superior intelligence
Are you sane at all?

South Africans liberated themselves not by Nigeria.

Illegal foreigners should leave SA and go back to build their country. Xenophobia is good for Africa

ruggedtimi:
all these things wey u dey yarn na because of white people wey dey south africa

I don’t understand your English my friend, pls write using pure English.

IGBOSON1:
Word!

See how Jacob Zuma is being held to account! That could NEVER happen with a Buhari or Babangida in Nigeria because they own the country!

Seconded

Litmus:
I crossed out the lies or liberties you took.

Nigerians challenge leaders when there is consensus.

Nigerians prefer to go to Europe and work in top jobs; unfortunately, top jobs may not be what is open to you.

Nigerians are smarter than South Africans.

Ask the entire world that between Nigerians and South Africans who worship Whites more and they will say South Africans. Unlike South Africa, Nigeria's visa and immigration policies dose not favor white nations over black ones.

Nigerians are afraid to challenge their leaders, if you were not afraid you would have changed the current leadership long time ago. South Africans removed Jacob Zuma.

Top job in Europe for Nigerians, you are dreaming.
Nigerians are doing hard labour or minimal jobs in Europe.

After the white rule South Africans were able to take care of their country, Nigerians destroyed their country. Therefore who is smart btw the two?

South Africans visa does not favour job seekers and it favours investors. We already have enough problems, we don’t want more job seekers here.

Litmus:
I crossed out the lies or liberties you took

Can Nigerians challenge their leaders?
Open secret is that Nigerians are always going out side their country for greener pastures

Burruchaga71:
. I disagree on South Africans are intelligent.

What makes you to disagree

swaggerjack:
99% of the fantastically corrupt leaders leaders that destroyed the country got away with their loot. We have a cash and carry justice system. Malema will never have had his house auctioned to pay off his tax debt.

Let’s hope that one day Nigerian justice system will be better

EagleNest:
How harmonious is the relationship between these tribes? Do they quarrel all the time or were they United by common pursuit to make SA better.

They are united in order to make SA a better place

Rugaria:
South Africans don't fear whites and Nigerians fear whites? What are you smoking? Some wet Zulu weed? Nigerians fear which whites? The ones we chased away from here and they ran down south to enslave you till we came down and forced them to free you in the 90s?

You're more intelligent than Nigerians yet you are the one burning fellow Africans alive all over your cities to "protect your jobs"!? How can the "more intelligent" resort to terrorism to protect that which he can easily keep with superior intelligence
Are you sane at all?

South Africans are chazing illegal foreigners in SA.
Nigeria never had a large number of whites like SA, that is why it was easy for you to chase them.

Whites thought SA is their land that is why they were many, in Nigeria whites were there for business.

According to SA history, Nigeria never assisted South Africa during apartheid.

subsidywise18:
If he is SA, he has a rosy view of his country.

You are not correct Sir

Razgas:
the guy you quoted is south african. Context

Yes, I am South African.

Razgas:
you don't also consider that colonisation created the problem we have in Nigeria? The different ethnic groups of Nigeria have only skin colour in common especially the Muslims in the North and Christians of the South. They would always have difficulty getting along. Why do you think the EU don't want to accept Turkey? Because of ideological differences.
We are also solving our problems and are unlikely to have another civil war despite petty armed struggles here and there

All the best to Nigeria

subsidywise18:
That's not quite true. There are divisions still between the whites and the blacks, and even among blacks.



Lol. Check out the violence that broke out in 1994 between Zulus and non zulus....for example. And then the xenophobic attacks on foreigners.



Blacks and even some white people are very religious. (yes, Afrikaner nationalisim is steeped in religion). Also, 80% of the peopulation follows christianity to some extent.



3%, but then...




Well, that's the way the cookie crumbles. Life goes on...



I daresay that's not true....



Oh my god...stereotypes. If SA loved their country, why are people running away? Plus. SA is getting worse. Resource dependency and all that.



OH MY GOD....so many of us can challenge and bash Bubu, including on this site, and we ain't got arrested. Right.



Rubbish. So this is what it is about. My tribe is suffering. Typical Nigerians. Meanwhile, some Fulani is blaming Igbos for his pain. You guys deserve each other. Blame blame , I am the victim. Nigerians...And now Yorubas blame Ibos, and vice cversa, and the big men smile...



So xenphobia is okay? Right....



That is absolutely not true.



Ha ha ha ha ha....many SA's are ashamed of their country, and of the corrupt ANC government. And many whites complain of genocide and how security is bad....sound familliar?




South Africans also love EPL well well. Infact so much that one SA coach called for EPL to be banned from the airwaves. The SA league airs on weekdays...that's how they get some popularity. NPFL has not learned that trick.

Plus both leagues are wack. SA has not gone to a world cup in ages. And continental play is awful.




Yes, and Nollywood does not exist. Plus, when Nigerians are ready to invest money in Nigerian tv projects...and talent, ....


Because you guys want an economy where we share oil money. Productivity...you no want. You refuse to pay bills for power that would enable the power sector to work well, and we sabotage our energy sector via subsides...and you come and complain.

Meanwhile, SA power companies have the right to raise bills without government disturbing them. And if you don't pay, they will come and cut your line. And if you make trobule...they will arrest you.

Nigeria...we want power for free, and expect power companies to pay for maintenance and upgrades by magic.

No light...no industry.


Yes, because SA spends more on education than we do...and pay high fees to boot. That's why they can have quality. Nigeria cannot have quality when we spend less than one tenth of what SA spends and fees are less than 200 dollars a month....and you expect high grade schools?

So if you want quality...you go abroad. And all them elite sending their kids abroad pay through the nose. It is not like it benefits them.



See some points above. You want jobs in Nigeria....then stop sharing oil money and be productive.



Lol...if we worshipped white people...why did we drive them out.?




In summary....you want the nice things of South Africa without paying for them. Sorry. That's not how it works.

Thanks for the detailed response, I learned few things from your response.

Razgas:
I wonder why you are thanking me. I'm the guy arguing with you

I liked how you responded that Guy on my behalf.

Razgas:
Lol this is so laughable. Midland and sandton are just neighbourhoods of Johannesburg. Steyn city is a housing estate. You have no new cities. Even some of your more vocal compadres here admit that ANC have built no new cities.
Black South Africans have no solid achievements of their own. All visible and known achievements in South Africa are from your colonial era.
Let's call a spade what it is please. You are conversing with intelligent people here not bantus

I understand what you said.

Idiko1:
It is not stupid to say Nigerians are not intelligent. If they are really intelligent, it does not show on the streets of Nigeria talk less in the circle of so-called places of higher learning.

I like what you said

Razgas:
Lol...this one is not an argument. White is a term conventionally used to describe Caucasians and black is a term conventionally used to describe subsaharan Africans and dark Indians.
Come up with a better line of argument or leave me be

Thanks a lot for this good response

Elporo:
1. Very high poverty rate among indigenous South Africans
2. Mass killings of non-South Africans
3. Highest teenage pregnancy within 12 - 14 years
4. Highest HIV prevalence in Africa
5. European dominated economy
6. With the exception of one, all billionaires on Forbes from South Africa are white . including the Tesla owner
7. Has a smaller economy than Nigeria
8. Has a smaller population than Nigeria
9. Has a smaller market than Nigeria
10. Purchasing power is heavily driven by cash assistance programs, unlike Nigerians whose PP is derived from income

Look to Ethiopia and Mauritius; if you have a good remote job. For men - Mauritian women are not as attractive as Ethiopians.

Before we talk about statistics, lets check if Nigeria has proper stats

Idiko1:
You did not show human intellect with the bolded phrase. No human being is either black or white. It is a display of ignorance to define humans with color.

How should we define humans

kernniejay:
If we must focus on the future to have a better tomorrow, then we have to undo the mistake of the past. Just as in relationship, a union that is full of domestic abuse and violence has to consider divorce otherwise a partner will soon pay with his/her life.

I understand you

Teesey:
Nigerians are hard working people & also traditional healer encourage sacrifice which leads to killing of human being and other bad thing.

We are not sure that Nigeria are hard workers, where is the proof.
We are not sure that traditional healers kill people

Razgas:
1. even the U.S is classified by race

2. Black South Africans have not built a new city or town since 1994. Nigerians designed and built Abuja which looks better than the capitals of your bantusans.

3. While there is high political corruption in Nigeria, Igbo and yoruba individuals are breaking barriers in entrepreneurship. Corruption is an African problem and the ANC is currently practicing a kleptocracy like the rest of Africa including Algeria and North Africa

Corruption is Not african problem, Is something wrong and needs to dealt with.
Midrand,Steyn city, lanseria city, Sandton, Centurion, hatfield are some of the Town build after 94.

Munamoqel:
but how come is South Africa the most unequal nation of earth .

Firstly SA have proper stats, and Nigeria do not have. Therefore you cannot compare the 2 in terms of stats.

Apartheid created that problem and it slowly getting fixed

Nicoswit:
Saying Nigerians are not intelligent is a stupid statement

If they were intelligent they were supposed to develop their country

swaggerjack:
The leaders destroyed the country not the people...we didn't partake in the feast.

Nigerians are accountable because they elected those leaders.
Those leaders are not from the sky.