payless:

I have met a bachelor degree holder form University of Ibadan who happens to do menial job in New Jersey. At the same time, I know of many Nigerians with bachelor degrees from various Nigerian higher institutions that do menial jobs.


My point is that, Nigerians who refuse to take a cleaning job in Nigeria wouldn't mind taking the same job in western countries. I guess everyone like to wear shirts and ties.

houstonia: Mehn this is way different from pride @payless. There is substantial securty in the US, the pay is respectable. There are good roads. Over there you have more stress which is normal in driving but less risk. Omo think about nigerian conditions for a momment you go understand weting guys dey try talk here. Abi you think sey riving wey we dey talk na to come drive Dangote himself? Omo na trucks o, giant dump trucks, heavy earth moving machines.

Onegai:

All the naija boys I know doing unskilled labour abroad for long periods of time are hustling either because
1. Dem no get paper, so they can't get a legal paying job
2. Dem no get education, so they are unemployable and if they were in Nigeria, they'd be selling spare-parts in Alaba
3. Dem need 3 jobs to support mummy, daddy, sister, brother, wife, 4 children, 2 girlfriends, numerous friends and hanger-ons that they have to show off to when they come for christmas in Naija

Onegai:
I am yet to see any engineer or doctor in the US driving truck without the above reasons. Most will start their own business.

Fhemmmy: It amazes me when i read stuff like what i have read on this thread.
Lots of the Nigerian graduates has no job, they have no means of taking care of themselves and some still depends on Daddy and Mom for their daily bread, now a man is giving them a job and he is a bad person.
Most of the graduates will go to western world to do worse jobs, but God forbid if they do same on Nigerian soil

iykeG: How much can he pay?

Onegai:

Hello there. Let me explain how Social policy and Economics work. Please take a seat.

In every society. there are small jobs and big jobs. Society is balanced by a proportionate amount of each. What happens is that a CEO hires Managers, who hire employees. Then the educated hire the skilled workers. Skilled workers hire unskilled workers. When that happens, money and wealth is spread round, because everyone is employed, at their own unique level, and has spending power. Thus the country has a good Cost of Living.

So when someone dumb slowpoke decides to hire the educated to do the jobs of the skilled workers, he deprives the skilled workers of jobs, which in turn make the skilled workers compete with the unskilled workers for their jobs. And no, contrary to your Pastor's optimism, manna will not fall from Heaven to feed the now unemployed unskilled workers. Who take to robbing, anarchy (that's a big word, so look it up) and kidnapping and whatsoever to survive. Sound familiar??
Yup, that's what happened to Nigeria. The truck driver is now at home hungry because a graduate is doing his job and the CEO, who then deprives the graduate the ability to earn his worth of years of schooling back from society, is CHEATING the graduate of that. Yes, we can all start business, but that would take more jobs away and increase the competition amongst skilled sellers. Go to Balogun, for every Kuddy Cosmetics (a big distributor), there are 30 small shops who barely sell one lipstick. Yet the owners have to pay dues, rents,
schoolfees, eat...

"Well, they can go to Agriculture", I can hear you say. Absolutely. How many farms exist that can pay unskilled workers enough to live on more than $2/day (Nigeria's current Cost of living)? And those farms also are now accepting job resumes from skilled workers, who might have been driving trucks in the city, but graduates are too busy (with your encouragement) applying for secretary, customer service representative, salesperson and truck driver.

A society must have a blend of graduates, skilled workers and unskilled workers. That way, everyone gets a fair chance to survive. The rest is upto them.

Think about the points I raised above. Thank you.

signed, a humble female engineer, without a job, whose Dad made sure she watched (amongst several other educative programs) CNN Business with him as a kid (while her peers were dating and pinging) because he knew that the schools would NEVER teach her Economics, Social Studies and Policy making. He was appalled at the low level of education amongst the best graduates he was constantly being asked to hire.

onatisi: now it is obvious gej is not our problems , nigerian youths are just too proud

Wallie:

Where will the money for starting a business come from? How about those that started a business and lost all their money; where will they get money from? Do you have any idea what your turnover in a business needs to be before you can have enough money to pay for your necessities and bills while maintaining or increasing your principal investment?

Olodostein:

Nice write up. But let us put theories aside.This is Reality we are talking about here.

I saw that you mentioned Agriculture. Let me give you a clue.

Apart from my other businesses, I saw an opportunity and went into waste management. Got some almajiri's around and employed them into collecting waste from people's homes and helping them tidy up their compounds while raking in the bucks. We use these waste and turn them into compost manure and supply to farmers. We help the environment in the process and help rid off farms and our foods chemicalized fertilizers. These young chaps go to market to learn machine ,bicycle parts after and use their savings to start up their own shops. They have practically taken over these line of business.

I could go on an on about potential things these "graduates" can go into but may be too proud to bend down and pick the money.

Been looking for a good engineering graduate that can do some design and that i can invest in. But is either they don't have in depth knowledge of Engineering Design,let alone calculations or they want to work in the bank or some obscure oil company.

Now because of my love for real engineering , i study environmental engineering on the side - this is why i am online most of the time reading up materials while tendering to my businesses out there.

dadaic:

Now i see why dangote would love to create such platform for graduates...because of people like you who can't even speak good english...

ARES: My fellow jobless graduates of great degree and wonderful learning from a country where there is so much employment, pls dont apply. i know exxon mobil, shell, agip , kpmg and total are chasing all of you around begging u to come work for them..... unfortunately not all of us come from homes where after 5 yrs in school, u still sit around waiting for hand outs....pls feel free not to apply. that will create more chances for me and people who know that today you may drive trucks, tomorrow you may own trucks...just so you know, the reason you went to school is for you to adapt to any condition and make the best of any condition you see your self,
having said that, if you live in the US and you feel you know naija very well,then you should know that whatever policy that works in the international community cannot work here.... so if dangote wants msc holders to wipe his assss and you feel you've got the asss wiping balls and the money is commiserate withe work you are doing, go ahead that is why it is called democracy....
BTW my fellow lazy graduates, where were u when he was recruiting for managers and IT people and accountants, economist, engineers and all that..... wht? your fantastic degree was not accepted?

Onegai:
Hello there. Let me explain how Social policy and Economics work. Please take a seat…

So when someone dumb slowpoke decides to hire the educated to do the jobs of the skilled workers, he deprives the skilled workers of jobs, which in turn make the skilled workers compete with the unskilled workers for their jobs. And no, contrary to your Pastor's optimism, manna will not fall from Heaven to feed the now unemployed unskilled workers. Who take to robbing, anarchy (that's a big word, so look it up) and kidnapping and whatsoever to survive. Sound familiar??
Yup, that's what happened to Nigeria. The truck driver is now at home hungry because a graduate is doing his job and the CEO, who then deprives the graduate the ability to earn his worth of years of schooling back from society, is CHEATING the graduate of that. Yes, we can all start business, but that would take more jobs away and increase the competition amongst skilled sellers. Go to Balogun, for every Kuddy Cosmetics (a big distributor), there are 30 small shops who barely sell one lipstick. Yet the owners have to pay dues, rents,
schoolfees, eat...

"Well, they can go to Agriculture", I can hear you say. Absolutely. How many farms exist that can pay unskilled workers enough to live on more than $2/day (Nigeria's current Cost of living)? And those farms also are now accepting job resumes from skilled workers, who might have been driving trucks in the city, but graduates are too busy (with your encouragement) applying for secretary, customer service representative, salesperson and truck driver.

A society must have a blend of graduates, skilled workers and unskilled workers. That way, everyone gets a fair chance to survive. The rest is upto them.

Think about the points I raised above. Thank you.

signed, a humble female engineer, without a job, whose Dad made sure she watched (amongst several other educative programs) CNN Business with him as a kid (while her peers were dating and pinging) because he knew that the schools would NEVER teach her Economics, Social Studies and Policy making. He was appalled at the low level of education amongst the best graduates he was constantly being asked to hire.

Wallie:


I initially skipped most of what you wrote but decided to read it because someone else quoted it. You miss me with your economic talk.

What you posted above will only be true if the law of supply and demand no longer works (Economics 101). As a person or businessman, you can demand whatever you want but are only going to get it if there’s supply for your demand.

In other words, if there are enough skilled jobs for graduates, then no graduate will accept Dangote’s offer and he would need to rethink his demand.
Moreover, why do you think Obama is advocating more training and education for out-of-job workers? Because low skilled jobs are forever gone and are being replaced by demands for a more skilled workforce. Just a decade ago, people with high school degrees working in manufacturing where earning middle class salaries but today, you will most likely need a college degree just to get by.

As the society becomes more advanced, the level of skill the society needs becomes more advanced. Think about what life would have been like in the 50s for engineers with no computers and what their life is like today. What was once considered advanced skill will someday become “no-skill” or norm because even a 5 year old can now do it (see computer usage).

Onegai:

Hello, as an Environmental Engineer who was into Waste management, worked for a waste management firm and is still studying international standards of waste management policy making (please clap for me ) , I applaud your efforts. I tried supporting communities like yours and tried getting the government to support you guys. It didn't work out. What do you need in an Engineer? I'm sorta free right now...(yep I'm jobless)

Goshen360: See pride in the hearts of some so called "graduates". Which kind book una don read wey another person never read before?I don't mean insult anyway. If you can apply for the job and be employed, why don't you take it for now UNTIL YOU GET A BETTER OFFER TO A BETTER POSITION/FUTURE. A clear picture of pride and despising the days of little beginning. You can even get the job just to save/build capital to start your own business. It doesn't diminish anything from you neither does it subtract anything from your future. As some graduates dey do yanga, some graduates don apply same job chap-chap.

Olodostein:

Quite remarkable of you.

Need an Engineer that can come up with a system that filters used bath and kitchen water that will be used to water plants and gardens.

Also interested in biodegradable packaging.

Anyways, I commend you for your work. There are lots of heavy metals out there since Nigeria has become a dumping ground for all kinds of substandard and dokunbo goods.

Keep up your good work. The field is very versatile.

ARES: My fellow jobless graduates of great degree and wonderful learning from a country where there is so much employment, pls dont apply. i know exxon mobil, shell, agip , kpmg and total are chasing all of you around begging u to come work for them..... unfortunately not all of us come from homes where after 5 yrs in school, u still sit around waiting for hand outs....pls feel free not to apply. that will create more chances for me and people who know that today you may drive trucks, tomorrow you may own trucks...just so you know, the reason you went to school is for you to adapt to any condition and make the best of any condition you see your self,
having said that, if you live in the US and you feel you know naija very well,then you should know that whatever policy that works in the international community cannot work here.... so if dangote wants msc holders to wipe his assss and you feel you've got the asss wiping balls and the money is commiserate withe work you are doing, go ahead that is why it is called democracy....
BTW my fellow lazy graduates, where were u when he was recruiting for managers and IT people and accountants, economist, engineers and all that..... wht? your fantastic degree was not accepted?

Onegai:
In Nigeria, if you and your foreign masters get employed as a bank teller at GTB, then I go do masters, then all of us now have masters, people now start doing Ph.D to work in bank (already happening). However, no matter the technology being used behind the till, the job is basically still paying out cash and recieving cash. No special skills required.

And you should read more. If I had been discussing my se.x diary in detail above complete with nude pics, you'd have paid attention to my original post

smartusman: This will be a bad start for graduates who want to pursue a career in their field. U can imagine an Accounting graduate whose only experience is truck driving,this can affect his/her chances of getting an accounting-related jobs.This is pathetic