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Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by deltaforce7(m): 12:07am On Aug 30, 2012
Seun: If the punishment does not fit the crime, it is not justice. 1 year jail term does not fit this crime, and that's all there is to it.
When we read about Shariaists stoning girls for getting pregnant, we are indignant, because even though it works, it's not just.
The solution to petty crimes is not to make the punishment unreasonable and wicked, but to enforce reasonable penalties consistently.

Right on point there. this amounts to killing a fly with a sledge hammer. this is injustice in the face of justice!
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by idowuswap: 12:15am On Aug 30, 2012
Make govt leave the man bcuz na yoruba man if na igbo man make then kill am cus they are useless.or hausa wey no go school only yoruba good.

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Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by profola2be(m): 2:10am On Aug 30, 2012
Seun: If the punishment does not fit the crime, it is not justice. 1 year jail term does not fit this crime, and that's all there is to it.
When we read about Shariaists stoning girls for getting pregnant, we are indignant, because even though it works, it's not just.
The solution to petty crimes is not to make the punishment unreasonable and wicked, but to enforce reasonable penalties consistently.
did you call it a petty crime?
let's assume unfortunately,the van knocks down an innocent passer-by,what will your judgement be?if this had happened,we will still be thesame set of people who will criticize the government for not putting measures in place to guard against such occurence.
if na Oyinbo make such law,we go clap for them,so far na our own government/people make such law,na bad law.
may God help our way of reasoning.
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by profola2be(m): 2:15am On Aug 30, 2012
deltaforce7:

Right on point there. this amounts to killing a fly with a sledge hammer. this is injustice in the face of justice!
but if the man kill or hit a passer by,it would have been a case of FLY melting sledge Hammer,abi?and justice in the face of injustice?
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by profola2be(m): 2:25am On Aug 30, 2012
cyril83: Very soon this may lead to a serious war in lagos,d punishment is too harsh chei wtf...its nt like diz in developed countries
please,tell us how it is in advance country.
if it were in advanced country,them born you well make you because of traffic go follow ONE WAY?
you talk as if no one has ever been to an advance country before.
go try am for UK and come and give us feedback.
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by profola2be(m): 2:30am On Aug 30, 2012
kj_hova: 1 year jail term for a civic offence in Lagos State in the same Federation where Tafa Balogun & Mrs. Ibru bagged 6 months for criminal offences?! Something is sure wrong with this.

This law will not hold ground if contested up to the Supreme court. Oh how I miss Gani
i hope you miss Ganiyat too?
please,tell us more on how this law wouldn't hold ground if contested on the supreme law court,Mr Ganiyat.
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by macwest: 2:34am On Aug 30, 2012
ben4ever: what a good start. Who be next?
Letshope they don't bring bribery into this matter too
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by profola2be(m): 2:37am On Aug 30, 2012
miky:

because in people are civil and not animals in developed countries,,no one drives against traffic except there is some detour sign with a clear command instructing them to do so
miky:

because in people are civil and not animals in developed countries,,no one drives against traffic except there is some detour sign with a clear command instructing them to do so
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thank you my brother,you won't die young in Jesus name.
some come here to comment as if they are the only that travel abroad.
go try am with David Cameron,abi na David ghana,the prime minister of UK,if them no go carry you go Psychiatric Home for HOLIDAY.
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by profola2be(m): 2:41am On Aug 30, 2012
slimdiggi: undecidedif he gets a good lawyer he might be acquited
Abi?
because na him mama or papa go judge the case.
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by profola2be(m): 2:50am On Aug 30, 2012
cyril83: where do dey tell u dat d driver is a murderer besides diz man has reasons for d obstruction,he was driven a bullion van contained raw cash and he ran into a hold up so what else do you expect of him,stayed dia wit d van and get robbed and killed...dats injustice if you must know, nigerians with their overdo attitude...smh
chairman,if you don't know,i am putting it up to you now,that,you need to be check on,if all is well,honestly.
because,your arguement is too baseless.
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by bittyend(m): 2:51am On Aug 30, 2012
This is madness! I still don't understand why a first time offender, who committed a driving offence could be jailed for a year - without an option of fine. This is pure jungle justice.

A fine should be appropriate for this type of offence, anything more than that, is just pure madness. You can't treat people like animals, just because you want to sanitize the system.

Everything works backwards in Nigeria smh.
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by profola2be(m): 3:06am On Aug 30, 2012
tlops: one year jail term seems too much for the crime. suspend his driving license shocked. 3 month community service, reasonably heavy fine.

like someone noted, the cost of housing a person for a year is irrelevant in Nigeria since they'll packed like fish. but seriously I wish the guy the best of luck: Goodluck.
see me see wahala.
which driver's licence
?
is it the one you could make order for in the comfort of your room?
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by profola2be(m): 3:10am On Aug 30, 2012
bittyend: This is madness! I still don't understand why a first time offender, who committed a driving offence could be jailed for a year - without an option of fine. This is pure jungle justice.

A fine should be appropriate for this type of offence, anything more than that, is just pure madness. You can't treat people like animals, just because you want to sanitize the system.

Everything works backwards in Nigeria smh.
Bros,when the was made,was it publicize or not?
ignorance no dey for law,abegi
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by Yomieluv(m): 3:38am On Aug 30, 2012
Desola:

Did he break the law? Yes!

What is such a person called? - An offender.

Is the offence committed found in the criminal code? - Yes

What is manner of offence does that make it? - Criminal

The offender is therefore called: A criminal.

desola,do u own a car?i doubt this,cos of ur responses,com to okokomaiko,where d road network is in shamble,and traffic jam can last 4hours,and more,especially in d evening.u'll scream.at dis side,one way is ur sure bet,due largely to bad road,else u sleep on d road..i'm not a pro-one way,but other corrective measure would be welcomed..
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by koruji(m): 3:44am On Aug 30, 2012
I know the disobedience traffic law in Lagos is horific - sometimes also caused by unbelievably terrible roads.

Still, I think this is draconian, and Gov. Fashola (still the best governor in Nigeria) would have to bactrack on this one soon.

You cannot put someone in jail for a traffic offense not involving death or injury for one year - in fact you should not even jail them!
Someone needs to take the Lagos State Government to Federal Court on this one.

We should not embark on Sharia-like law enforcement in the SW. A fine, suspended licence, and impounding the vehicle for a period of time are all good options.

There is no need to start crowding jails and creating hardened criminals by carting working people to jail for misdemeanours.

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Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by Yomieluv(m): 3:51am On Aug 30, 2012
Fasola has less than 4years to go.PDP will use his draconic traffic law to score political point during campaign.oga fasola,pls take it easy with lagosian.a law is meant to correct,and not to kill psychologically..repair al d bad roads,and see who will take one way..lagosians attitude are product of the society they live...

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Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by Yomieluv(m): 4:00am On Aug 30, 2012
idowuswap: Make govt leave the man bcuz na yoruba man if na igbo man make then kill am cus they are useless.or hausa wey no go school only yoruba good.
did u smoke wet weed before typing this?
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by Tinyemeka(m): 4:15am On Aug 30, 2012
Not like I'm in support of reckless driving O. I understand driver's situation. It's not a good feeling, being in a loaded bullion van and getting caught in traffic. And almost everyone believes you are carrying tons of money. Not a good thing at all.
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by Vallo57(m): 4:39am On Aug 30, 2012
Cruel and unusual purnishment.

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Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by oyb(m): 4:44am On Aug 30, 2012
koruji: I know the disobedience traffic law in Lagos is horific - sometimes also caused by unbelievably terrible roads.

Still, I think this is draconian, and Gov. Fashola (still the best governor in Nigeria) would have to bactrack on this one soon.

You cannot put someone in jail for a traffic offense not involving death or injury for one year - in fact you should not even jail them!
Someone needs to take the Lagos State Government to Federal Court on this one.

We should not embark on Sharia-like law enforcement in the SW. A fine, suspended licence, and impounding the vehicle for a period of time are all good options.

There is no need to start crowding jails and creating hardened criminals by carting working people to jail for misdemeanours.


i belive this is a clear message to bullion van drivers and their employers that it is no longer business as usual, and they are not exempt from the law.
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by ogalanya(m): 5:13am On Aug 30, 2012
Seun: If the punishment does not fit the crime, it is not justice. 1 year jail term does not fit this crime, and that's all there is to it.
When we read about Shariaists stoning girls for getting pregnant, we are indignant, because even though it works, it's not just.
The solution to petty crimes is not to make the punishment unreasonable and wicked, but to enforce reasonable penalties consistently.
killing a fly with a sledge hammer! How many years did bola ige and cecilia ibru spend behind bars? Naijeriyaaa! SMH

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Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by puplin(f): 5:20am On Aug 30, 2012
susku mayaya:
Most of the drivers are seconded staff i.e not a direct staff of the bank. So The driver is on his own while the bullion van is the bank's property and hence, their action.
The driver is a staff of bankers warehouse, a cash-in-transit company. The bullion van is not d banks property but that of d company. BW only has d responsibility of transporting d banks cash, that was why they brought another van to evacuate the money. Mind u, there was at least one policeman in that van with the driver who must have geared him up to drive against traffic..,and now d poor guy is on his own. silly company, my cousin worked for one of them and he almost died in a road ambush. The van is always more important than the employees cos dem get plenty standby drivers.
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by santanovva(m): 6:22am On Aug 30, 2012
Hmnnnnnn I just hope GEJ and madam Dame will not forget these laws when they visit Lagos o
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by vivaciousvivi(f): 6:51am On Aug 30, 2012
Seun: If the punishment does not fit the crime, it is not justice. 1 year jail term does not fit this crime, and that's all there is to it.
When we read about Shariaists stoning girls for getting pregnant, we are indignant, because even though it works, it's not just.
The solution to petty crimes is not to make the punishment unreasonable and wicked, but to enforce reasonable penalties consistently.

I am sorry but I disagree with you. A person driving against traffic is a menace to both pedestarians and other road users on that lane. Not to talk of a complete nuisance. What is wrong is wrong, which d so called "victim" had admitted. 10 yrs ago, how many Nigerians wore seat belts while droving? Lastma came ard and things slowly took shape...now its a necessity. We wear d belts almost automatically. Abeg, he shld face d music in jail (which wldnt be up to a year considering d time d case will keep being adjourned) and may it serve as a big deterrent for those who do it as a habit esp military personnel and danfo drivers!
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by Klomente: 7:26am On Aug 30, 2012
Were there no Police escort vehicles with the Bullion Van? If the Bullion Van had Police escorts they too should be arrested for I'm sure they'd drive against traffic too.
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by KDULAR: 7:43am On Aug 30, 2012
A month inside the prison as an inmate in NIGERIA is enought to put "some brain" into any slighty insane human like someone driving against traffic. For God sake, a year with no option of fine as a first offender is rather TOO MUCH. A month imprisonment with fine and community service could suffix here. Mind you on getting out, anyone in a prison for that long based on such offense will become more emboldened and a criminal because he'ill believe like most of us do that justice/punishment has not been appropriately served and the society has not been fair on him. Seriously o, the punishment for the offense should be reviewed. Pity

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Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by bigmo1(m): 7:47am On Aug 30, 2012
basisop: Haba! 1 year jail term for driving against traffic? Too much for the crime.
One year jail term is even too small ƒσя driving against traffic. Just 2 days ago a passenger bus collided with a trailer driving against traffic, 10 passengers died leaving only one survivor. Driving against one way is equivalent to murder.
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by kunletiwoo(m): 8:01am On Aug 30, 2012
Desola:

Don't be silly! That is such a lame excuse for not punishing an offender - "is there even space availale in those prisons" what an argument!

I wonder if you would be so concerned about the silly stigma if he had hit you - an innocent pedestrian. What irrational mentality! The same law that is seeking to protect you and your rights as a pedestran or road user is the same one you're kicking against. I just don't understand Naija people.
O se jor
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by Landcruiser: 8:10am On Aug 30, 2012
Welldone Fash
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by kunletiwoo(m): 8:17am On Aug 30, 2012
erico2k2: YOU GUYS NOW HAVE A GOAT FOR A GOVERNOR
So all of you are agreeing with the fact that the Driver should hold up and wait for traffic to clear in LAGOS full of rouges is someone MAD or something.The Bullion Van has MONEY in it and its not meant to stand for more than 1 minute,it should be allowed to drive against traffic with a warning siren to alert oncoming traffic, SOON an AMBULANCE DRIVER will soon be arrested for driving one way then you guys will agree now that YOU GOT A GOAT IN POWER, rubbish angry angry angry


You've just displayed how BRILLIANT you are. Bravo! Now tell me.

1. What is a LAW?

2. What is the whole essence of a LAW?

3. If a LAW wouldn't favor you, won't you cover up your LAPSES? (security wise)

Lastly, between LIFE and MONEY which one is more IMPORTANT to you?

***Now who is a GOAT?

Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by puplin(f): 8:28am On Aug 30, 2012
If some of u have ever being to/stayed in d east, you'd understand how delicate a bullion van is. How many of u don witness bullion van road robbery before? If d type of robbery that happens in d east were to happen on a busy lagos road just once, am very sure dia would b an amendment to that traffic law.
Re: New Lagos Traffic-Law Catches First-Victim - Bullion Van Driver by snthesis(m): 8:31am On Aug 30, 2012
silly law- jailing a 1st time offender for a traffic law for one year- haba!!!!
other road users will henceforth- try to getaway by all means and i foresee more Lastma officials getting hurt

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