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Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Nobody: 6:17pm On Sep 06, 2012 |
There are four verses in the Christian Bible that state that God will make, or has made in a prophetic sense, a new earth. So being curious I asked, If all the saved are going to go to heaven after death then why is there going to be a new earth? |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Nobody: 6:24pm On Sep 06, 2012 |
My deductions : 1. The dead are still dead , both wicked, rich, good , poor , small and great. 2. Christ arrives with the trump sound of the arch angel 3. The dead in Christ are raised first with immortal bodies 4. We who are alive will meet the Lord in the air and our bodies will be changed to immortal in the twinkling of an eye. 5. Then Christ comes with us to earth to judge the wicked 6. After judgement, the wicked are punished, destroyed and cut off from the earth, together with Satan and his demons. 7. The earth is made new 8. We dwell in this new earth with Christ as our king forever. Mind you this is just my deduction, I will enjoy to hear your own views so that we can scripturally and humbly complete the puzzle. I only have part of it. Peace brothers and sisters. |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Nobody: 6:31pm On Sep 06, 2012 |
So the wicked will be cut off from the earth by total destruction with the old order of things. It is the wicked who will be removed from the earth not us. Let us take heart. God bless. |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Nobody: 6:31pm On Sep 06, 2012 |
a new earth simply means - a new set of righteous citizens on earth just as a new heaven simply means a new set of rulership on earth. they dont actually mean physical places. they are people. 'renewed righteous people' 3 Likes |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Nobody: 6:32pm On Sep 06, 2012 |
Since making heaven is only by GRACE, it is indeed possible that no one would go to heaven. It would be only by God's mercies |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Nobody: 6:34pm On Sep 06, 2012 |
musKeeto: Since making heaven is only by GRACE, it is indeed possible that no one would go to heaven. It would be only by God's mercies You did not quite get it, or maybe you did. My point is , that the righteous will inhabit a new heaven and new earth with new bodies , immortal bodies for that matter, while the wicked will be cut off from the earth forever. |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Image123(m): 8:22pm On Sep 06, 2012 |
They knew that they were Pilgrims and they desired a better place, that is an heavenly. |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Nobody: 8:25pm On Sep 06, 2012 |
Image123: They knew that they were Pilgrims and they desired a better place, that is an heavenly. Next time bro, add the other part of the verse "Instead, they were longing for a better country--a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them." - Hebrews 11:16 OR "For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God." - Hebrews 11:10 |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by MacDaddy01: 8:32pm On Sep 06, 2012 |
God must be the author of confusion! People arguing over fairytales. Frosbel admitting that the bible is a puzzle! Kai! A new earth= Buzugee's interpretation..new earth is symbolic for a new set of people |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Image123(m): 9:12pm On Sep 06, 2012 |
frosbel:what's funny? that the earth is a city? |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Nobody: 9:13pm On Sep 06, 2012 |
Image123: Ah okay , sorry I was under the deluded impression that you meant we all go to heaven when we die ! |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Image123(m): 9:31pm On Sep 06, 2012 |
frosbel:you certainly sound deluded. The verse you are v.happy to quote says nothing about this earth, which you claim as your home, but speaks of a HEAVENly city. not this earth been referred to as a city. 2 Corinthians 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Nobody: 9:46pm On Sep 06, 2012 |
Image123: Thank you Christian for your 'politeness'. However, if you cannot read the scripture verses quoted above , about a new heaven and new earth, I cannot help you. God's heavenly kingdom is coming to earth with Christ our first born brother as King. If you cannot perceive this , no problem, in due time you will. |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Image123(m): 10:24pm On Sep 06, 2012 |
i didn't expect you to see it.I'll be a little surprised if you see or hear anything in your state. my post was for those that have ears to hear and eyes to see. about polite, which btw is relative, you were the first to admit to being personally under a deluded impression. good night |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Nobody: 10:37pm On Sep 06, 2012 |
I have noticed that on Nairaland, you can post all the logic, facts and evidence and our members will walk past it all as if they are blind. |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Nobody: 2:21am On Sep 07, 2012 |
Coming from a Xtian, that made me lol.. |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by JIL(m): 8:51am On Sep 07, 2012 |
frosbel: I have noticed that on Nairaland, you can post all the logic, facts and evidence and our members will walk past it all as if they are blind. James 1:19 'Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry' Prov 10:19 'In the multitude of words sin is not lacking,But he who restrains his lips is wise' |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by MacDaddy01: 8:58am On Sep 07, 2012 |
frosbel: I have noticed that on Nairaland, you can post all the logic, facts and evidence and our members will walk past it all as if they are blind. lol....hypocrisy in abundance! Hypocrite frosbel |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Nobody: 9:20am On Sep 07, 2012 |
JIL: Indeed. However in my opinion, Bible exposition amongst truth seekers is a necessity in this day and age of confusion in a divided church. |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by JIL(m): 10:25am On Sep 07, 2012 |
frosbel: Indeed, not! Not in a forum that is infested with jobless Atheists. You can seek to achieve that in a Christian meeting or forum. |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Nobody: 11:05am On Sep 07, 2012 |
JIL: I take your advice and humbly so. I have 2 blogs which are hardly used, maybe this will be a good time to build them up for use. A Christian forum or paltalk also comes to mind. Anyway thanks for getting me thinking. |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by EMILO2STAY(m): 6:00pm On Sep 07, 2012 |
@frosbel i believe the saved shall first go to heaven and then come down to earth. After the one thousand years of desolation on the earth. |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Nobody: 6:42pm On Sep 07, 2012 |
EMILO2STAY: @frosbel Can you kindly show me in the bible where it says we will go to heaven when we die ! |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by ijawkid(m): 8:53am On Sep 08, 2012 |
frosbel: I have noticed that on Nairaland, you can post all the logic, facts and evidence and our members will walk past it all as if they are blind. My belief from the scriptures is definitly righteous persons will live on this earth forever.........not all good persons will go to heaven........ Jesus's word confirms that @ matthew 5;3 $ 5 New International Version (NIV) 3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 5 Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. ..... Jesus said it and I believe it..... Add me up on WAGSKEHINDE@yahoo.com |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by EMILO2STAY(m): 11:37am On Sep 08, 2012 |
@frosbel i am not saying that we go to heaven after death. I mean at the last day the righteous will be taken to heaven first and the earth will be desolate for a thousand years after that, they come down with jesus in the new jerusalam which is confirmed in this chapter Jude 1:12 and enoch also, the seventh from adam,prophesied of these, saying, behold, the lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,15. To execute judgment upon all and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken agaisn him. this is the time the ungodly will be judged and after that follows destruction and then the earth is renewd. |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by bigmaut: 8:32pm On Sep 08, 2012 |
hhmm!all those half-baked converts on nairaland causing confusion everywher jah shall caste ye all away into outer darkness where their will be wailing & gnashing of teeth |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Nobody: 8:38pm On Sep 08, 2012 |
bigmaut: hhmm!all those half-baked converts on nairaland causing confusion everywher jah shall caste ye all away into outer darkness where their will be wailing & gnashing of teeth I dey hear u bigmaut... Notin do u |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by MyJoe: 12:55pm On Sep 09, 2012 |
@Image123 How is you doing? The man has quoted many verses demonstrating new earth. Why are you dismissing them with one Corrinthians? What happens to the New Earth? |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by truthislight: 3:04pm On Sep 09, 2012 |
obadiah777: a new earth simply means - a new set of righteous citizens on earth just as a new heaven simply means a new set of rulership on earth. they dont actually mean physical places. they are people. 'renewed righteous people'[quote author=frosbel][/quote] ^^^ you did not add psalm 37:29 |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by ijawkid(m): 3:06pm On Sep 09, 2012 |
MyJoe: @Image123 Joe joe wad up...how u dey??:-) |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Image123(m): 4:03pm On Sep 09, 2012 |
MyJoe: @Image123hey I'm fine ithink. the thread is not about a NEW earth is it? it's about going to heaven and I'm on my way dia. 1 Like |
Re: Believe Me No One Is Going To Heaven - Truth or Tradition by Nobody: 4:09pm On Sep 09, 2012 |
Everyone will experience the heaven they have created in their minds. Some people have created Hell and some Invincible man in the cloud. I wish them all the best with the invincible white man. 1 Like |
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