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Re: Did Jesus & His Apostles Ever Speak About Tithe Like Today's Pastors Do? by jcross19: 3:00pm On Nov 17, 2012
Joagbaje:

Luke 11:42
"But woe to you Pharisees! For though you are careful to tithe even the smallest part of your income, you completely forget about justice and the love of God. You should tithe, yes ,but you should not leave these other things undone.




Tithe Is a kind of giving. Alms giving is another kind of giving. One should not take the place of the other.



Really, is it only tithe they teach for one hour every day? Talk true . How many churches do you attend to know what they all preach. Let's avoid exaggeration pls. A minister teaches the whole counsellor of God.



There' are several givings in Gods kingdom. Tithes ,offerings ,alms giving, giving to parents, giving to Your man of God. Etc. we must do all. Without neglecting the other. What to God should not take the place of what you give to the poor or what you give to your parents.

Every giving has its blessing. If you do it ,you have it's blessing, if you don't you simply miss out of its blessing that's all.
wait bros during that time when jesus was preaching they were still levites from true source okay and then there was nothing like christian but judaism but after the death of christ the new religion arose with a new way of teaching okay. tithe was included in christianity in 6 century by the bishops in vatican. so it was not the basics of the christians.
Re: Did Jesus & His Apostles Ever Speak About Tithe Like Today's Pastors Do? by Nobody: 3:09pm On Nov 17, 2012
nep2ra:

Joagbaje is NOT only a THIEF but he's also a wicked, unrepentant LIAR. He doesn't worship God. He worships the DEVIL. Shameless Rogue. I'm sure the idol you worship is proud of you.

Joagbaje is a fraudster, no doubt in my mind

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Re: Did Jesus & His Apostles Ever Speak About Tithe Like Today's Pastors Do? by Goshen360(m): 8:54pm On Nov 17, 2012
We have said it loud and clear, there is nothing like tithe for Christian/Christianity as the New Testament only began AFTER ressurection and ascension of Christ. I am doing an in-depth exposition in the book of Hebrews chapter 7 where tithe (both pre-law and tithing according to the law) was abolished. Jesus NEVER preached tithed because he himself never tithed. The Apostles NEVER tithed and never taught tithing to the New Testament believers because none produced tithable items. The teachings of the Apostles was for Christians to remember the words of our Lord Jesus that,

New Living Translation (©2007)
And I have been a constant example of how you can help those in need by working hard. You should remember the words of the Lord Jesus: "It is more blessed to give than to receive" - Acts 20:35

The Gospel (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) is NOT the New Testament for Christ is the Mediator of the New Testament/covenant,

New International Version (©1984)
For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant. Hebrews 9:15

And in the case of a testament or will, it is neccesary that the testator dies before the testament can go into function.

New International Version (©1984)
In the case of a will, it is necessary to prove the death of the one who made it, because a will is in force only when somebody has died; it never takes effect while the one who made it is living. This is why even the first covenant was not put into effect without blood. Hebrews 9:16-18

Therefore, the Gospel is still part of the Old Testament by "content", not by arrangement. What you have in the Gospels was fully developed and revealed in the New Testaments, Acts - Jude while revelation is event to come aside some parts of revelation. Christ was still under the law in his days which made him living under the law and Old Testament,

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law.

New International Version (©1984)
But when the time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under law - Galatians 4:4

Those who use the the scripture of Matthew 23:23 and the likes to support tithe are simple twisting the scriptures to justify tithing for the New Testament Christians. Tithing is Fraud in the name of God but giving is what the New Testament teaches. Tell them to show us where Christians were taught by the Apostles to tithe AFTER calvary and resurrection/ascension, they can't present just one single scripture. Hence, we have no apology to call tithe teachers modern day wolves in sheep's clothing who are into the church to make money out of God's people who are ignorant.

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Re: Did Jesus & His Apostles Ever Speak About Tithe Like Today's Pastors Do? by Nobody: 9:10am On Nov 18, 2012
Why should someone be called a thief because he believed in something.

@logicboy, what do u believe in?
@pastormustwac, what do u believe in

Tithe is tithe, believe it or not. But indeed, nobody is forcing u to pay, so take it easy. Pay to ur pastor, to the needy, to the motherless baby homes, to the begger, to whoever ur mind deem fit, God watches the heart, I think motive is usually more important.

Indeed, some pastors have enriched themselves via tithe, God will judge not you and me. They collect such money in God's name so they're answerable to Him, sooner or later.
Re: Did Jesus & His Apostles Ever Speak About Tithe Like Today's Pastors Do? by Nobody: 12:45pm On Nov 18, 2012
iv4fb: Why should someone be called a thief because he believed in something.

@logicboy, what do u believe in?
@pastormustwac, what do u believe in

Tithe is tithe, believe it or not. But indeed, nobody is forcing u to pay, so take it easy. Pay to ur pastor, to the needy, to the motherless baby homes, to the begger, to whoever ur mind deem fit, God watches the heart, I think motive is usually more important.

Indeed, some pastors have enriched themselves via tithe, God will judge not you and me. They collect such money in God's name so they're answerable to Him, sooner or later.


If someone believes in fraud, what does that make him?


Just look at the bold; a pastor does fraud and we should leave him to god? The same god that allowed him to do it in the first place? Na lie. Should any pastor try nonsense with me, it is to court or jail.
Re: Did Jesus & His Apostles Ever Speak About Tithe Like Today's Pastors Do? by pastormustwacc: 1:19pm On Nov 18, 2012
iv4fb:
@pastormustwac, what do u believe in
I believe that for anyone that wants to pay tithe, because they have faith that it will work for them - should go on to pay it, and they will get blessed.
But if you pay tithe because your pastor is hammering on the tithe with red eyes! then, your tithe is a waste of time.

If you pay tithe because you are trying to bribe God to bless you, well. . . .i am not God.
Re: Did Jesus & His Apostles Ever Speak About Tithe Like Today's Pastors Do? by solid3(m): 1:00pm On Nov 21, 2012
Still hard to make a final conclusion, although, no scripture from the New Testament is convincing enough to support tithing.

The question is, should any part of the Old Testament which is not supported by the New Testament be thrown away and not be practiced by Christians and the Church today?
Re: Did Jesus & His Apostles Ever Speak About Tithe Like Today's Pastors Do? by Goshen360(m): 4:10pm On Nov 21, 2012
*solid*:
Still hard to make a final conclusion, although, no scripture from the New Testament is convincing enough to support tithing.

The question is, should any part of the Old Testament which is not supported by the New Testament be thrown away and not be practiced by Christians and the Church today?

You will also have a better understanding following and participating in this Thread

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