musKeeto:
Nyc...

Me no sabi plenty science.. good at physics in sec sch, dreadful @ chem...prob d teacher..

Logicboy03: I watched a debate on BBC last night where a priest was saying that many things in the bible were metaphorical and he believes that there are stories in the bible that shouldnt be taken literary but the moral message should be extracted from them. He was ashamed of the bible literalist christian on the same debate that claimed to believe everything word for word in the bible. This same priest said that the virgin birth or the stories in the old testament are not central to his beliefs. He said that the moral teachings of Jesus about love was the main issue.


On the one hand, there are christians that accept the magic/miracles in the bible and on the other, there are christians that take only the moral teachings from the bible. We even have people like Thomas Jefferson, a christian who wrote his own bible excluding all the miracles of Jesus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible


The question now goes to christians-


[size=18pt]a) Are you a miracle accepting or "morals only" accepting Christian?

b) Is interpreting the bible without miracles and the supernatural a modern way of christianity? [/size]




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIn00lhq8Q&feature=g-vrec

ifeness: Science is the future of man kind. Even christians would agree that the the God ideology is becoming weaker as years goes by.

Mckybarf: some people read the bible from a logical and scientific perspective rather than with faith. When that happens, then nothing in the bible wilk make sense. By faith we believe creation took six days to complete. By faith we believe God is though none has ever seen Him. By faith we believe the physical universe we see was made from non-existence into existence. By faith shall we be saved. If you believe all these and dont believe the virgin-birth of Christ and his miracles, then its better you dont believe in nothing at all cos you are only making a FOOL out of yourself. I am least surprised about so called 'priests' cos Paul and Peter prophesized about them. I do believe though that a good part of scripture is symbolic but that not withstanding, the miracles were real.

Mckybarf: keep dreaming. Soon your folly will catch up with you.

J12: Daft priest. Jesus was crucified was metaphorical too.

sadeiyare:

If you don't know everything, then you don't have a basis for your scientific calculations. You still can't see that I am not arguing but just telling you that christains are only operating in faith which you will always conclude to be foolishness ( but GOD foolishness is wiser than the wisest of men)

Logicboy03:

Why not?
Muslims claim that Jesus wasnt crucified

Mckybarf: keep dreaming. Soon your folly will catch up with you.

ugoflenzy: Jesus said dat who eva add or remove fr ‎​D̶̲̥̅̊ holy bible has committed a sin so we should not b deceived by any one

Logicboy03:


Thank you for your honest answer!


However, you say the bible has survived thousands of years but that is not quite true. Many original scriptures have been lost. There have been many meanings lost in translations and there are also many translations or versions of the bible. What we have today is an incomplete bible.

The bible is not a miracle. Or do you think differently? What is your opinion on this?

J12:

Those are muslims, so its irrelevant.

Logicboy03:

Christianity...... always preaching with threats

Mckybarf: can you honestly tell me what is missing from the bible? I would be glad if you could but if you cant, dont blaspheme.

Mckybarf: who is threatening who? A christian isnt even supposed to strive with words much less threaten. I just stated the fact.

all4naija:

God foolishness?!God foolishness is only meant for the foolish not for reasonable humans. Please, define God and the origin of religion you are so passionate about? If your really know the origin of your religion you won't be so fanatical in this your crusade to pass wrong information about myth called god across as if they are real.

all4naija: It also means they were not created and God never created them. It means they existed on their own and they were not God creation.

sadeiyare:

Glad you said reasonable, instead of reasoning .

1.Cor.3 : 18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. 20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

Logicboy03:

Intelligent design has been destroyed. It has no scientific papers in any scientific journal!

Here is a simple debunking quote;



Intelligence as an observable quality

The phrase intelligent design makes use of an assumption of the quality of an observable intelligence, a concept that has no scientific consensus definition. William Dembski, for example, has written that "Intelligence leaves behind a characteristic signature". The characteristics of intelligence are assumed by intelligent design proponents to be observable without specifying what the criteria for the measurement of intelligence should be

Logicboy03: Yes sir. Mr Uyi Iredia is right! He claims that well researched and documented scientific facts are circular. The scientist that have compiled the evidence and cleary sttated their arguments are wrong and circular.

While presenting no supporting evidence for his stance, Mr Uyi Iredia is right. The genetic evidence for common ancestry is circular.

Logicboy03: I see you fail to understand what macroevolution is. No wonder you dont believe in it-- the arrogance of ignorance!!!

Seriously, human beings are apes. The same way "macro-evolved" bacteria are still bacteria. You and I are apes from the hominidae family. What matters is the species.


Unfortunately, Adam and Eve is a lie.

Logicboy03: I see you fail to understand what macroevolution is. No wonder you dont believe in it-- the arrogance of ignorance!!!

Seriously, human beings are apes. The same way "macro-evolved" bacteria are still bacteria. You and I are apes from the hominidae family. What matters is the species.

sadeiyare:

Same old song, science is limited ; if you don't know everything, you don't know anything

Psalm 139 : 11 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me. 12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.

GOD CAN AND WILL NEVER BE IN YOUR REALM

sadeiyare:

Same old song, science is limited ; if you don't know everything, you don't know anything

Psalm 139 : 11 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me. 12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.

all4naija:
Okay, Preacher man! It saddens me to see a person who doesn't know the origin of his religion is about defending it and trying to instill it into others through deceitful ways. I have been through your stage of belief and I know how it feels. Just be searching you will find out the truth one day. While searching don't forget to be open-minded in your approach.

PEACE!

sadeiyare:

Trust me, you never read the bible ; The Bible is a better scientific journal than all the scientific books of the world put together

Logicboy03:



Science is limited and human knowledge is limited. Simple.


However, limited science is 100000000000000^infinity times more vast in knowledge than the bible.


The bible that contains contradictions and lies. Yaweh that thought the moon was a light;



New International Version (©1984)
God made two great lights--the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars (Genesis 1;16)

Logicboy03:

The same bible that claims that we descended from Hebrew/Jewish people in Adam and Eve from the middle east?


All the evidence points to the fact that the first humans were from Africa and not the Middle east

sadeiyare:

And I really thought you guys have read the Bible

Genesis 11 : 1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

sadeiyare:

What will you tell a kid that the bulb in your living room that glow is : LIGHT. But does it actually generate on it own.
So now you think the sun is light and the moon is a rock, even though both give light but in different ways. I dare you to call the moonlight, sunlight in a night you are out with friends or family and see how they will react to you.