PAGAN 9JA:
and ofcourse we far exceed christianity in terms of philosophy and spirituality. after all, christianity is a religion that plays on peoples emotions, nothing more. .

oiseworld:

you just won't stop foooooooling ur self....

PAGAN 9JA:
and ofcourse we far exceed christianity in terms of philosophy and spirituality. after all, christianity is a religion that plays on peoples emotions, nothing more. .

Uyi Iredia: I see. But the fact remains that paganism is fast on the decline in these parts. PAGAN 9JA, you just have to accept the fact that Christianity & Islam beats paganism hands down.

Uyi Iredia: I see. But the fact remains that paganism is fast on the decline in these parts. PAGAN 9JA, you just have to accept the fact that Christianity & Islam beats paganism hands down.

pastormustwacc:
Well, i put it to you directly - that your religion cannot exceed christianity in spirituality (as long as you draw power from your gods - whose powers are limited - compared to the almighty God). There is a limit to your spirituality afteral - and i know that limit (you should as well, if you know as much about your gods as well as you should).

But you might have a point in that, not all christians are spiritual, majority dont even know what the word means in the first place (but in time they learn, and tap into the power and spirituality that is theirs for believing in Lord Jesus).

IF YOUR GODS WERE POWERFUL ENOUGH, THEY SHOULD HAVE WITHSTOOD THE OYINBO PREACHINGS OF JESUS CHRIST, AND AFRICANS SHOULD NOT BE TURNING THEIR BACKS ON THEM

PAGAN 9JA:


yes I agree. and 90% by unfair means. this is why i am encouraging Nigerians and other tribals around the world to fight back this tyranny and irreligions and reclaim our status. it is time we stop being cowed. .

pastormustwacc: Why did our ancestral gods not protect us from invasion from the whites? Even with all our black african magic?

And the current state of Nigeria? Well, the problem of Nigeria is not something I wish to talk about. I don't want people that know-it-all to start bombing the thread.

But let me give you a hint, the problems of Nigeria is not what many people think it is.

Consult your ifa and tell us what you think - since u tink ur ifa is more powerful.

Uyi Iredia:

Unfair kini ! All they do is preach and people accept. They organise lots of outreaches that is how they spread especially Christianity. Islam was rooted in the North thanks to the work of Utman Dan Fodio. You must be dreaming if you think that the traditional religions have a chance. They are seen as fetish and outdated.

omo_to_dun: @pastormustwacc
The reason our fathers gave up their traditional beliefs for foreign ones was primarily because they deemed the Whites to be superior to them. If we had been Christians and they brought Ifa and Orunmila to us, we would have abandoned Christianity and start sucking the diick of Orunmila. Follow follow is our motto.


With all the Jesus and Mohammed wey una for Nigeria dey call day and night, how una situation don change?

pastormustwacc: Why did our ancestral gods not protect us from invasion from the whites? Even with all our black african magic?

And the current state of Nigeria? Well, the problem of Nigeria is not something I wish to talk about. I don't want people that know-it-all to start bombing the thread.

But let me give you a hint, the problems of Nigeria is not what many people think it is.

Consult your ifa and tell us what you think - since u tink ur ifa is more powerful.

omo_to_dun:

I do not think Ifa is more powerful. Ifa, Orunmila, Sango, Obatala, Jesus, Mohammad, Zeus, etc are all the same to me. None of them would have helped when the Whites came.

The Whites had GUNS! We had bow and arrow. African magic is another BS. We are a people full of BS. We don't like to take responsibility for our actions and we hate to think that we are in control of our lives. You are a Christian because Arabs didn't get to the South West before the Europeans; had they been earlier, you would be a muslim. Our destiny is in our hands. Not in the hands of any god. Gods who don't give one $hit about anyone, because they don't exist. We made them up.

PAGAN 9JA:


i am sick and tired of expouding this fact, that the Gods do not interfere directly in human affairs. they cant just come and stand in fromnt of an invaing army and take sides. they are Spiritual Forces and unworldy beings. just imagine the catastrophe such a thing can cost. imagine the Chinese God taking part in a war against an Arabian God. these Gods dont have nationalities or states or boundaries orr ethnicities. they are merely Universal Spiritual forces. Zeus = Ngai = Brahma = Chukwu = Olodumare, etc, (creative forces) Mercury = SHango = SHiva, etc. .(destructive forces) and so on and so forth. it is just that different ethnic tribes have different names for this Unievrsal concept and how this came about is a mystey, almost a miracle. The Gods are merely guides and provide the push. it is upto us humans and other beings to decide our course of actions.

as for Africans turning back on them, since when have all Africans ever been good or been on the right track. many of us turned our backs (due to inferiority complex, force, influence, etc.) however, many of us stayed on, I am just doing my duty to bring Africans or ANY other tribals around the world to their senses. it is just am atter of how much my work or anyone elses work for that matter, pays off. we humans decide OUR future.

ogoamaka99: @pagan 9ja,
Your situation is pitiable because it is like a man uttered dusty road to well constructed one. It is like a blind man pitying those seeing clearly with their two eyes.

pastormustwacc: The gods do exist, I don't doubt their existence at all, and the Almight Fahter (na them baba be that).

We have mostly been brainwashed in Nigeria to think the primary cause of the problem is the people.

On the spiritual side, it is not that simple. But sorry, I will rather not say - don't want to cause unnecesary wahala. Make we just sidon look.

pastormustwacc: The gods do exist, I don't doubt their existence at all, and the Almight Fahter (na them baba be that).

We have mostly been brainwashed in Nigeria to think the primary cause of the problem is the people.

On the spiritual side, it is not that simple. But sorry, I will rather not say - don't want to cause unnecesary wahala. Make we just sidon look.

PAGAN 9JA:
ARE YOU A PAGAN OR A CHRISTIAN? I AM CONFUSED! OR ARE YOU CONFUSED!

pastormustwac:



OH, THIS MY POST CONFUSED BOTH CHRISTIANS AND PAGANS AT THE SAME TIME? I JUST STATED A MATTER OF FACT.

I acknowleged that the pagan gods do exist and are quite powerful too, and also said that the ALMIGHTY GOD (the father of Jesus) is above them all. I serve the almighty God (Father of Jesus) and not the pagan gods.

PAGAN 9JA:


but that makes you a PAGAN!

We PAgans never denied that there is a Supreme Creator Force! because to begin something there must be a creator force. nor do we deny the existence of other Gods!

just remove jesus from your life and you will be just about on the right track.