LagosShia: The warning only has to do with Aisha and Hafsa.the other wives are not concerned.

Sweetnecta: @paris love; what will do after the 5 questions are answered?
will you accept guidance and follow the last prophet who is the only one to all of nations till end of time or
you will scuff at the guidance which is Islam, the chairman of prophetic office [SA] and still remain arrogant as if you are the One
Who determines success?

anyways, your presence on nairaland is a witness because you have read from so many messengers of the Messenger [SA}.
Love is not only in Paris, but the love of the Messenger [SA} by the Message is available to all mankind, except those who wish to reject it.

LagosShia: ^
The entire surah is centered around two wives only and their actions.that "all" in bracket even if is to be translated as such is a way of supposing.the surah only treats the ill actions of Aisha and Hafsa.that is evident when the word "qulobukooma" (hearts in double possessive form and not plural) is used in that same surah.

1) What did the Prophet ban for himself that was lawful for him in order to please his wives?
2)What oaths did Muhammad take that Allah ordained dissolution for?
3)What did Muhammad confide in one of his wives which she divulged that caused this whole uproar?
4)Why is Hafsa and Aisha backing each other against Muhammad?
5)What could've caused so much hue and cry that the creator of this universe had to intervene with a warning to Muhammad�s wives that Muhammad would divorce all of them and He (Allah) would give him virgins and faithful wives?

by Paris-Love: 7:41am

LagosShia: The warning only has to do with Aisha and Hafsa.the other wives are not concerned.

The verse said all. 66:5 It may be, if he divorced you (all), Before you accuse me of quoting wrong translation, i got the verses from http://www.muslimaccess.com/quraan/arabic/066.asp

Sweetnecta: @paris love; what will do after the 5 questions are answered?
will you accept guidance and follow the last prophet who is the only one to all of nations till end of time or
you will scuff at the guidance which is Islam, the chairman of prophetic office [SA] and still remain arrogant as if you are the One
Who determines success?

anyways, your presence on nairaland is a witness because you have read from so many messengers of the Messenger [SA}.
Love is not only in Paris, but the love of the Messenger [SA} by the Message is available to all mankind, except those who wish to reject it.

Why all this sermons? I don't need them please and next time you wanna post on this thread let it be my answers i beg you in the name of Allah

Sweetnecta: @paris love: the sermon is speech about truth that you need. how can i give you your answers which will be lying to you? you can ask me by Allah to lie. my offer stands by Allah.

maclatunji: OP, you will continue posting until you either grow tired or become a Muslim yourself. You think the Prophet (SAW) wasn't human? Will you create a thread for each topic you read on antiIslamic websites?

maclatunji: OP, you will continue posting until you either grow tired or become a Muslim yourself. You think the Prophet (SAW) wasn't human? Will you create a thread for each topic you read on antiIslamic websites?

by Paris-Love: 6:17pm

Sweetnecta: @paris love: the sermon is speech about truth that you need. how can i give you your answers which will be lying to you? you can ask me by Allah to lie. my offer stands by Allah.

Hahahahahaha is Allah's soldier on the run? Whenever the answers starts to flow it sure promises to be sizzling!

*grabs my pork chips*

Sweetnecta: @paris love: for te love of paris does not know what he wants. he earlier said the opposite of what he said here now. they call people like you flip flopper[s]. i will only give you the truth and it will not be your truth, if you are talking about islam.


easy on the pork rinds. something that simple can kill. bush almost choked on something that simple while in the presidency.

by Paris-Love: 8:31pm

Grow some balls like lagoshia and answer the damn question. Lol, never knew you were this economical with your answers given the fact they're quite lengthy

Sweetnecta: @paris love; your story is like pierre in the middle. so what lagosshia gave you is not enough? when you take my offer, i will answer you questions, InshaAllah. it will be short and sweet.

Paris-Love:

I don't understand much of what he's saying. I don't know how that answers any of my question. From the little i did, he's saying Muhammad had an extra marital affair?

LagosShia:

I'm sincerely sorry to say but you be serious mumu! Or you think you're trying to be smart?

On a day assigned to Hafsa, when she was not found in her apartment as she went to her parent's house,the Holy Prophet spent the night with Marya, the coptic girl, presented to him by the ruler of Egypt, who became the mother of his son, Ibrahim. To calm the quarrelsome bad temper of Hafsa he vowed thathe would have no more to do with Marya.

Paris-Love:

Maybe you didn't read it before copying.
On a day assigned to Hafsa, when she was not found in her apartment as she went to her parent's house,the Holy Prophet spent the night with Marya, the coptic girl, presented to him by the ruler of Egypt, who became the mother of his son, Ibrahim. To calm the quarrelsome bad temper of Hafsa he vowed thathe would have no more to do with Marya.

LagosShia:

So who is Marya (ra)? Is she not one of the "mothers of the believers" as well? She was a wife too.unfortunately,Hafsa and Aisha looked down upon her because she was a slave that was gifted to the Prophet (sa).he accepted her and she embraced Islam from christianity.he vowed he would avoid Marya (ra)-to please Hafsa-when his good intentions are triggered by the ill-intentions of Hafsa.he could decide to avoid a wife for a period of time if he so wishes.yet again the verses revealed came down to check the excesses of Aisha and Hafsa.one of the reasons those two were also jealous of Marya (ra) was because she bore the Prophet (sa) a child while they were barren.

Paris-Love:
iIf she was a wife why all this drama? Again On a day assigned to Hafsa, when she was not foundin her apartment as she went to her parent's house,the Holy Prophet spent the night with Marya, the coptic girl, presented to him by the ruler of Egypt, who became the mother of his son, Ibrahim.
The tasfir you quoted said nno where that marya was a wife. You're just saying whatever you like to save face. At one Place you say she's a slave, at another you say she's a wife. The Prophet never Payed her dower, she was a slave girl Presented to him by the ruler of Egypt.
Why would the Prophet treat another wife unfairly just because others are angry? Did he forget surah4:3 that said deal justly with all your wives?

Paris-Love:
Muhammad according to quran is the best of mankind and also the best example follow. Indeed he did lead by example, like when he married the adopted wife of his son to show it's halal for foster fathers to do the same among many others. In aya 66 Muhammad threatened to divorce all his wives, the reason for doing that hopefully I'll find out. Let's get to it.
Surat At-Taĥrīm 66:1 O Prophet! Why holdest thou to be forbidden that which Allah has made lawful to thee? Thou seekest to please thy consorts. But Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
2.)Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths (in some cases): and Allah is your Protector, and He is Full of Knowledge and Wisdom.
66:3 When the Prophet disclosed a matter in confidence to one of his consorts, and she then divulged it (to another), and Allah made it known to him, he confirmed part thereof and repudiated a part. Then when he told her thereof, she said, "Who told thee this? "He said, "He told me Who knows and is well-acquainted (with all things)."
66:4 If ye two (wives) turn in repentance to Him, your hearts are indeed so inclined; But if ye back up each other against him, truly Allah is his Protector, and Gabriel, and (every) righteous one among those who believe,- and furthermore, the angels - will back (him) up.
66:5 It may be, if he divorced you (all), that Allah will give him in exchange consorts better than you,— who submit (their wills), who believe, who are devout, who turn to Allah in repentance, who worship (in humility), who travel (for Faith) and fast,- previously married or virgins.

1) What did the Prophet ban for himself that was lawful for him in order to please his wives?

Paris-Love:

2)What oaths did Muhammad take that Allah ordained dissolution for?

Paris-Love:

3)What did Muhammad confide in one of his wives which she divulged that caused this whole uproar?

Paris-Love:

4)Why is Hafsa and Aisha backing each other against Muhammad?

Paris-Love:

5)What could've caused so much hue and cry that the creator of this universe had to intervene with a warning to Muhammad�s wives that Muhammad would divorce all of them and He (Allah) would give him virgins and faithful wives?

Paris-Love:
Alright, so which of the above answers should i take? This whole uproar was because Muhammad slept with Hafsa according to Lagoshia or because of some honey according to Vedax? It's quite confusing

Paris-Love:
I don't know what you mean by is the Prophet not human. Isn't he the best man that walk the face of earth? The best example for all mankind to follow? So what are you re you saying? Is you guys that will start accusing someone of learning islam from non muslims. If i wanted to learn about how capitalism works should i go to Fidel Castro?

LagosShia:

Sura 66 have nothing to do with human nature in terms of trying to attribute any weakness to the Prophet (sa) for being human.on the contrary,as the above tafsir explains,the sura exposes the schemings of Aisha and Hafsa.whatever promise the Prophet (sa) made was not forbidden.but since the intentions of the two is based on jealousy and ill-feelings,the verses came to expose them.furthermore,in the same sura,they are said to have had "hearts that swayed (from faith)" and therefore they should repent.what is noteworthy is that there is no subsequent verse revealed to vindicate them or declare that they have repent and are forgiven,as we see in other Quranic narrations where Allah (swt) vindicates His servants and write off what they were earlier charged with.

Here comes in the Shia-Sunni differences through the respective positions on Aisha and Hafsa.to the Shia,Aisha's rebellious attitude and ill-actions continued by her disobeying the Prophet's (sa) order for her not to wage war after his demise.she went ahead to wage the Battle of Jamal against Imam Ali (as).so we can see clear divine wisdom and prophecy in the making why Aisha after being described as having a "heart swaying from faith",she was not vindicated,absolved or cleared of that charge with the revelation of a Quran verse. She disobeyed the will of the Prophet (sa) that she shouldn't go to war and she must observe the Quranic injunction that his wives maintain modesty within their houses.Sunnis on the other hand find excuses to cover up for Aisha and avoid certain historical facts.