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Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by nduchucks: 7:22pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
I was told that Major General Johnson Thomas Umunnakwe Aguiyi-Ironsi walked around when he was commander-in-chief with a dead, treated lizard in his hand. Is there a cultural or political reason for this and do some Igbo's still practice this act? Did Ironsi believe that he derived some sort of supernatural power from this lizard? Please no bashing, I simply seek to be informed. |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by wissezy: 7:42pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
I was also told that the reason he was called Aguiyi ironsi, was because of that wooden crocodile . For me, i think it has no supernatural power. Maybe it was a symbol of his authority. |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by nduchucks: 7:46pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
wissezy: I was also told that the reason he was called Aguiyi ironsi, was because of that wooden crocodile . For me, i think it has no supernatural power. Maybe it was a symbol of his authority. Thanks. So Aguiyi was not his real name, I believe Aguiyi means lizard in Igbio, no? |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by Dede1(m): 7:58pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
ndu_chucks: This is show of shame both historically, intellectually and culturally. 3 Likes |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by Abagworo(m): 8:25pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
Dede1: Ndu_chucks is Fulani man bearing an Igbo moniker on Nairaland. 12 Likes |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by nduchucks: 8:30pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
Dede1: I'm not following you, what's the show of shame? The fact that Ironsi carried the lizard around or something else. @Abagworo is there some common knowledge that a Igbo person should have about the said lizard? 1 Like |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by RickyRoss1(m): 9:13pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
ndu_chucks: I heard the same story about Ironsi and the crocodile abi lizard as well and it doesnt call for insults anyways. I was told it gave him some supernatural powers, but ironsi is not here to confirm such news/rumor. It has nothing to do with being Igbo. His babalawo or jujuman could be Hausa or Yoruba. 1 Like |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by Abagworo(m): 9:17pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
Ricky_Ross: Aguiyi is crocodile in Igbo language and it symbolizes his name. |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by danjohn: 9:41pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
Wonders shall never end. Aguyi is a very common Igbo name. General Ironsi's supposed lizard story should have nothing to do with his last name being "Aguyi"-Ironsi. From what I know, General Ironsi was raised by his older sister's husband. Aguyi is his biological father's last name, while Ironsi is the older sister's husband's last name. Since he saw his sister's husband as his father, he combined the two names thus naming himself Aguyi-Ironsi. 1 Like |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by dayokanu(m): 9:46pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
Interesting |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by patholaw: 9:59pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
History 101 class. 1 Like |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by Agiliti(m): 10:03pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
wow....such ignorant posts especially about a former head of state agu = lion/beast, iyi = water/river so aguiyi means beast of the water...or crocodile Johnson was his sister's husbands last name and that's the name he took as his first name : Johnson Aguiyi-Ironsi the dead lizard you people are talking about is most likely his swagger stick that was carved to look like a crocodile (his name) 3 Likes |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by nku5: 10:05pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
It wasn't a dead lizard, it was wooden figurine crocodile that supposedly gave him supernatural powers. I heard (beer parlour gist sha) that when ty danjuma and his men came for him, that was the first thing they dispossessed him of before he could be overpowered and killed ndu_chucks: I was told that Major General Johnson Thomas Umunnakwe Aguiyi-Ironsi walked around when he was commander-in-chief with a dead, treated lizard in his hand. |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by saintneo(m): 10:06pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
crap |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by naptu2: 10:06pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
Some of the soldiers that kidnapped him believed that the lizard gave him the power to disappear. They believed that it was the lizard that enabled him to escape when he was captured in the Congo. |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by nku5: 10:14pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
Yes it was his swagger stick Agiliti: wow....such ignorant posts especially about a former head of state |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by Nobody: 10:25pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
Whaaat! Did I hear Lizard? Dammit! I hate that creature! "Pukes and Runs out of thread" |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by redsun(m): 10:29pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
naptu2: Some of the soldiers that kidnapped him believed that the lizard gave him the power to disappear. They believed that it was the lizard that enabled him to escape when he was captured in the Congo. If nigerians still believe in the 21st century that witches cause flooding,i wonder what they believed in those days of real darness? Lazurus. |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by 2million1(m): 10:44pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
ndu_chucks: I was told that Major General Johnson Thomas Umunnakwe Aguiyi-Ironsi walked around when he was commander-in-chief with a dead, treated lizard in his hand. ndu_chucks: I was told that Major General Johnson Thomas Umunnakwe [b]Aguiyi-Ironsiwalked around when he was commander-in-chief with a dead, treated lizard in his hand. Is there a cultural or political reason for this and do some Igbo's still practice this act? Did Ironsi believe that he derived some sort of supernatural power from this lizard? Please no bashing, I simply seek to be informed.[/b] ndu_chucks: I was told that Major General Johnson Thomas Umunnakwe Aguiyi-Ironsi walked around when he was commander-in-chief with a dead, treated lizard in his hand...thank God u said u wer told |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by AndroBlaze: 10:53pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
In those days and even till now, most officers carried totems/charms for their protection, not having one was even more unusual. This definitely crosses tribal boundaries even though it is more common among particular tribes serving. No big deal at all. I even know personally of a high ranking SW officer that died unnaturally and I just recently found out someone close to him substituted his charm innocently- even after his mother had warned against it. I am surprised why any true African should be shocked at this. 2 Likes |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by kuzzieOtiz: 11:55pm On Nov 01, 2012 |
Is this a test? |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by igboboy1(m): 12:00am On Nov 02, 2012 |
Abagworo: Wrong...he is a Yoruba bearing an igbo moniker |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by Sagytarius(m): 12:01am On Nov 02, 2012 |
berem: Whaaat! Did I hear Lizard? Dammit! I hate that creature! "Pukes and Runs out of thread" Aje buta or Aje kpako, Which one? |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by sherrylo: 12:06am On Nov 02, 2012 |
Whatever it was for didn't save him from Danjuma. 1 Like |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by damola1: 12:13am On Nov 02, 2012 |
The swagger stick with a stuffed crocodile mascot carried by Gen Aguiyi-Ironsi was called Charlie. Legends had it that the crocodile mascot made Aguiyi-Ironsi invulnerable and that it was used to dodge or deflect bullets when he was on mission in the Congo. Despite the stories, the crocodile mascot probably had something to do with the fact that the name "Aguiyi" translates into "crocodile" in Igbo. |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by igboboy1(m): 12:14am On Nov 02, 2012 |
damola1: The swagger stick with a stuffed crocodile mascot carried by Gen Aguiyi-Ironsi was called Charlie. Legends had it that the crocodile mascot made Aguiyi-Ironsi invulnerable and that it was used to dodge or deflect bullets when he was on mission in the Congo. Despite the stories, the crocodile mascot probably had something to do with the fact that the name "Aguiyi" translates into "crocodile" in Igbo. #wikipediathings No wonder una dull 2 Likes |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by Nobody: 12:17am On Nov 02, 2012 |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by Omuha(m): 12:25am On Nov 02, 2012 |
I heard he carried a staff(possibly carved as a lizard) with him as some form of charm to offer him protection & that it was secretly replaced on the day he was killed. I heard it oo.The veracity of these claims can not be ascertained! |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by damola1: 12:28am On Nov 02, 2012 |
igbo boy: No wonder.. u dey ask questions wey don get answer....u sabi read at all? |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by 190theclown: 12:30am On Nov 02, 2012 |
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Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by agohavivi(f): 12:50am On Nov 02, 2012 |
ndu_chucks:aguiyi actually means water leopard and is another name for a crocodile. He probably moved about with a carved crocodile which can otherwise be referred to as his "ofo". That's what I think. |
Re: Ironsi Walked Around With A Dead Lizard In His Hand, Why? by ayobase(m): 12:50am On Nov 02, 2012 |
Ricky_Ross: An act of omission or commission? |
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