Why do catholics call Virgin Mary the mother of Jesus or Mother of God? Does God have a wife? Was Joseph not called the earthly father? Why is Mary not called like wise?

Why do they now call her Mother of God? God the father, God the son and God the Holy spirit has been there even before creation or before Mary came into this world. So why have catholics given him a mother?

Please Nairalanders what do you think?

John 1:1,It's obvious Jesus pre existed Mary.


John 1:14,Mary had to birth Jesus in human form.

k2039: John 1:1,It's obvious Jesus pre existed Mary.


John 1:14,Mary had to birth Jesus in human form.

That means she is human! Just like all of us! That means she is the "earthly mother" of Jesus and not the mother of Jesus or mother of God as catholics call her!

Holy Mary mother of God pray for us... Dammm!

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That means she is human! Just like all of us! That means she is the "earthly mother" of Jesus and not the mother of Jesus or mother of God as catholics call her!

Holy Mary mother of God pray for us... Dammm!

Mary is/was never the mother of God.
Yes,she was the mother of earthly Jesus,but God has no mother(it's blasphemous saying Mary is the mother of God)

@OP.....if you believe Jesus was the invincible GOD incarnate(fully man and fully God when on earth) then you can conclude that mary is the mother of GOD.....kudos to the trinity dogma........

ijawkid: @OP.....if you believe Jesus was the invincible GOD incarnate(fully man and fully God when on earth) then you can conclude that mary is the mother of GOD.....kudos to the trinity dogma........

Binowei, God has no mother or father please! Stop the blasphemy!

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Binowei, God has no mother or father please! Stop the blasphemy!

Very simple!

Do you believe in the trinity?
Yes or no.

truthislight:

Very simple!

Do you believe in the trinity?
Yes or no.

For once I will agree with you.Any one who claims to believe that Jesus is God but resents his mother been called the mother of God is a very big fool.This is simple logic.

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Binowei, God has no mother or father please! Stop the blasphemy!

ABEI Tubara??.......the trinity can lead you to that conclusion....I'm just saying.....

Ofcuz mary gave birth to Jesus according to the flesh, catholic believe that, joshep is d father according to law (adoption), catholics believe that too! Mary isn't the originator of Jesus' divinity catholics believe that, Jesus exists eternally and is b4 mary, catholic believe that too! Jesus God the son, took human flesh in the womb of mary by the power of God and d working of the holyspirit, catholics believe that, and by taking flesh in mary's womb Jesus is both God and man (hypostatic union) catholics also believe that!
The last part is what follows, since Jesus wu is God took flesh and became Godman thru conception mary gave birth to Jesus who is both man and God. She didnt give birth to just a man, a man isn't Jesus, instead she gave birth to the word made flesh, God in human form.
Thus she is the mother of God.
Please note the statements above flows and an attempt to circumvent them will be illogical. The only way u can say mary isn't d mother of God is to claim like ijawkid and frosbel that Jesus isnt God.
If u go with ijawkid atleast u are free of hypocrisy, if u claim Jesus is God and mary isn't d mother of God then that is hypocrisy!

.bbpreye:
Why do catholics call Virgin Mary the mother of Jesus or Mother of God? Does God have a wife? Was Joseph not called the earthly father? Why is Mary not called like wise?

Why do they now call her Mother of God? God the father, God the son and God the Holy spirit has been there even before creation or before Mary came into this world. So why have catholics given him a mother?

Please Nairalanders what do you think?

k2039: John 1:1,It's obvious Jesus pre existed Mary.


John 1:14,Mary had to birth Jesus in human form.

so mary gave birth to a man wu isn't God abi? Dat means mary didnt give birth to Jesus because Jesus is both God and man!

.bbpreye:


That means she is human! Just like all of us! That means she is the "earthly mother" of Jesus and not the mother of Jesus or mother of God as catholics call her!

Holy Mary mother of God pray for us... Dammm!

did any1 say she isn't human??

k2039:
Mary is/was never the mother of God.
Yes,she was the mother of earthly Jesus,but God has no mother(it's blasphemous saying Mary is the mother of God)

unless u are saying Jesus isn't God!

Ubenedictus: Ofcuz mary gave birth to Jesus according to the flesh, catholic believe that, joshep is d father according to law (adoption), catholics believe that too! Mary isn't the originator of Jesus' divinity catholics believe that, Jesus exists eternally and is b4 mary, catholic believe that too! Jesus God the son, took human flesh in the womb of mary by the power of God and d working of the holyspirit, catholics believe that, and by taking flesh in mary's womb Jesus is both God and man (hypostatic union) catholics also believe that!
The last part is what follows, since Jesus wu is God took flesh and became Godman thru conception mary gave birth to Jesus who is both man and God. She didnt give birth to just a man, a man isn't Jesus, instead she gave birth to the word made flesh, God in human form.
Thus she is the mother of God.
Please note the statements above flows and an attempt to circumvent them will be illogical. The only way u can say mary isn't d mother of God is to claim like ijawkid and frosbel that Jesus isnt God.
If u go with ijawkid atleast u are free of hypocrisy, if u claim Jesus is God and mary isn't d mother of God then that is hypocrisy!

Quite well put. Although whether expressed as 'Theotokos' or 'Mother of God' the expression or concept needs to be understood in its proper context. Mary is human and Jesus is God and God is God. Mary was only the vessel chosen to be the bearer of God for the purpose of His incarnation --- not that Mary is the one who gave Jesus, God the Son, His 'origin' or for that matter who gave God the Father His 'origin'.

The need to understand the expression in context is similar to the need to understand The Holy Trinity in context; it is in part failure to understand The Holy Trinity in context that makes some people turn against the doctrine and come up with silly things like Jesus is an 'angel', Jesus is 'a god' or the most daft of all Jesus is 'just a man'.

On the other hand, the difficulty other Trinitarian believers have with Roman Catholics on this issue is the question of how far to take and appreciate the honour due to Mary; many do not believe in the idea of Mary as an intermediary, mediatrix etc.

Ubenedictus: unless u are saying Jesus isn't God!

Ofcourse Jesus was never God

Of Course. Mary is the mother of God n Jesus, cuz jesus is God accordin 2 d trinity. U haters, y was'nt ur grand mum picked 2 bear d saviour. Out of millions of virgins, the most high selected the blessed mary, d angels of God hails her xo as God. 'blessed is u amongst women, holy mary, mother of God' those ar d words of d God in form of holy spirit 2ru elizabeth. 'and d holy spirit spake through elizabeth' whether u like it or not, the truth is that WITHOUT MARY, YOU WOULDNT HAVE BEEN SAVED. She'z d pillar of OUR CHURCH.

Enigma:
the difficulty other Trinitarian believers have with Roman Catholics on this issue is the question of how far to take and appreciate the honour due to Mary; many do not believe in the idea of Mary as an intermediary, mediatrix etc.

you have stated the difficulty many people have with this mary issue, but i/we are interested in knowing what your own take is.

1. Do you also have that difficulties concerning her being a mediatrix ?

2. Are you home and dry with the act of using her as a mediatrix?

Please answer and choose clearly 1 or 2 of the options as to prevent ambiguity.

Hope you will not ignore this.

^^^ I do not believe in treating Mary as mediatrix.

I agree that honour is due to her and the Bible gives her this. See Luke 1:28 etc; also, look up something called The Magnificat.

Enigma: ^^^ I do not believe in treating Mary as mediatrix.

I agree that honour is due to her and the Bible gives her this. See Luke 1:28 etc; also, look up something called The Magnificat.

thanks for the clear answer.

Hehehehehe! [size=13pt]Mary mother of God almighty?[/size] [size=17pt]blasphemy![/size]

k2039: Ofcourse Jesus was never God

and thou art entitled to thy opinion.

Enigma: ^^^ I do not believe in treating Mary as mediatrix.

I agree that honour is due to her and the Bible gives her this. See Luke 1:28 etc; also, look up something called The Magnificat.

not suprised, u reject the belief in the communion of saints so im not really suprised that u don't consider mary an intercessor.
Ur last paragraph i agree with.

Lil Donne: Of Course. Mary is the mother of God n Jesus, cuz jesus is God accordin 2 d trinity. U haters, y was'nt ur grand mum picked 2 bear d saviour. Out of millions of virgins, the most high selected the blessed mary, d angels of God hails her xo as God. 'blessed is u amongst women, holy mary, mother of God' those ar d words of d God in form of holy spirit 2ru elizabeth. 'and d holy spirit spake through elizabeth' whether u like it or not, the truth is that WITHOUT MARY, YOU WOULDNT HAVE BEEN SAVED. She'z d pillar of OUR CHURCH.

Ur saying without mary I would'nt have been saved? So ur trying to say its mary that saved me not my Lord and Saviour, Jesus?

I pity you!

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Ur saying without mary I would'nt have been saved? So ur trying to say its mary that saved me not my Lord and Saviour, Jesus?

I pity you!

she didnt say that, God "needed" to take flesh thru a woman, that was mary, no human medium no "d word was made flesh"

Ubenedictus: not suprised, u reject the belief in the communion of saints so im not really suprised that u don't consider mary an intercessor.
Ur last paragraph i agree with.

Where did I reject belief in the communion of saints?

Enigma:

Where did I reject belief in the communion of saints?

well it is here for all to see, all protestants reject d intercession of d saints in heaven, dat simply means u have rejected d communion of saints. Very simple, that is y u cant see mary as an intercessor.

^^^ You are making a false accusation and, in any event, the point you are trying to make is really non sequitur.

Enigma: ^^^ You are making a false accusation and, in any event, the point you are trying to make is really non sequitur.

mayb it is, mayb it isn't. But yeah, u don't see mary as an intercessor. I bet i'm not mistaken. That is tantamont to rejecting d communion of saints.