@DanJohn,

I admire your intelligence.

Very analytical and detailed. Wish we can have more Nigerians with your kind of aptitude.


Hope you don't mind if I ask what course you studied and what do you do (as in work) ?

See Naija. Hahaaaahaaa. Let us all go back to our villages. Let Abuja be wiped off. Electoral college ko, electoral school ni. Rubbish suggestions and posts

Let me try to explain danjohn's post. For everyones information, Nigeria already has electoral colleges just like America. We simply do not use our electoral colleges but use majority vote to decide our elections.
Nigeria has 774 lgas which have 360 house of rep members and 109 senators. Each rep member and senator represent 1 electoral college vote. Add them up together to get 469 electoral votes.
Now how does this work?
Elections are then held at each lga and the senator or house of rep member representing that lga is mandated to vote the candidate the citizens of that lga choose.
The op went ahead to list advantages to both parties in an election as regards to cost savings and even more thorough vigilance by political parties since they can concentrate their efforts in fewer lgas.

All u guys are saying hia is sentimenta n hence 1 big challenge in dis con3. U keep saying SS,SE,SW while d North is just N(north) but yet u expect dis ur sentimental SS,SE,SW to produce equal reprentation as a single North. Y not u also mention NORTH EAST,NORTH CENTRAL,NORTH WEST? U buncha crazy sycophants

Every southerner should oppose this. This is an attempt by the North to hold on to power.

Gowon should just shut up his stinking dirty gutter mouth!
He doesn't have any reputation to speak on the politics of Nigeria.
May 10 million ferocious Afghanistan flies infest his stinking mouth!!!

He should just mind his old self...the atrocities he commited during
the civil war still linger; they will surely hunt his old stinking head till he dies!!!

Our problem is not the system but the people that run the system! Electoral college system will change nothing. What we need is National value re-orientation, attitudinal change and character reformation of every corrupt Nigerian. We must place patriotism above selfishness and excessive materialism. Above all, we must love one another genuinely regardless of religious or tribal divide.

0lumide: This will still be same thing but will concentrate voting power in places with high population.

Lagos, Oyo, Kaduna... Now, no place in SS/SE can have such voting power which will mean we are back to marginalization. Unless you are willing to give Enugu and Edo state the same voting power given to Kaduna, Kano, Lagos, Oyo which I doubt is right.

So electoral college isn't our option just yet!

You want every Nigerian to go to the polls knowing their vote matters right?

If we have electoral college system, the entire SS/SE won't have more than Lagos and Oyo or Kaduna and Kano. That will be too much marginalization.

Americans are trying to return to majority vote and this stone headed rogue want us to return to a system that breeds marginalization in a tribal nation like Nigeria? Abeg make this man no dey go watch America come de prescribe nonsense for us here in 9ja ooo!!

He's just trying to be smart. Buhari would have won if we had an electoral college in Nigeria.

No No No. We don't want.

trillville: Let me try to explain danjohn's post. For everyones information, Nigeria already has electoral colleges just like America. We simply do not use our electoral colleges but use majority vote to decide our elections.
Nigeria has 774 lgas which have 360 house of rep members and 109 senators. Each rep member and senator represent 1 electoral college vote. Add them up together to get 469 electoral votes.
Now how does this work?
Elections are then held at each lga and the senator or house of rep member representing that lga is mandated to vote the candidate the citizens of that lga choose.
The op went ahead to list advantages to both parties in an election as regards to cost savings and even more thorough vigilance by political parties since they can concentrate their efforts in fewer lgas.

In Nigeria alll states have d exact same number of senators and reps. that's different from what the uS practices if am correct. California one has about 55 votes at the electoral college.

The Electoral College is the most ridiculous, most out dated system to elect someone. People in america are thinking of getting rid of the electoral college but Nigeria want to implement it? are you serious, a system were theoretically you can win an election in the USA with only 21% of the popular vote. Really, you want that in Nigeria!?!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wC42HgLA4k

0lumide: Trust me bro, should the should the nation adopt electoral college system, SS/SE will be censored to silence in Nigeria!!

So it possibly what that Gowon wants. Its not enough that he murdered our people, he also wants to keep them in perpetual doom. Tufiakwa! It won't work.

Iolo:

In Nigeria alll states have d exact same number of senators and reps. that's different from what the uS practices if am correct. California one has about 55 votes at the electoral college.

No you are wrong, Lagos and Kano have the highest number of reps with 24 each. Check out danjohn's first table. Each federal constituency has 1 house rep.

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No be only electoral college na electoral nursery

0lumide: Trust me bro, should the should the nation adopt electoral college system, SS/SE will be censored to silence in Nigeria!!

Let's have it then!

People plz watever U do.....don't listen to Gowon oooo he is d most untrustworthy Nigerian in history. Jonathan is no. 2

DJTee:

War-time General "Dan Jos" got a lil carried away . . .wishful thinking!!

I tell ya

Iolo:

In Nigeria alll states have d exact same number of senators and reps. that's different from what the uS practices if am correct. California one has about 55 votes at the electoral college.

Iolo, please look at the pictures that I posted. Your above statement is false. In Nigeria, each state has an equal number of senators but representation in the house of reps is based on population. For example, while Lagos and Bayelsa have 3 senators each, Lagos has 24 representatives in the house of reps while Bayelsa has only 5.

Iolo:

He's just trying to be smart. Buhari would have won if we had an electoral college in Nigeria.

No No No. We don't want.

Iolo, Jonathan won the 2011 election with 59% of the vote. If we had an electoral college, his percent tally would have stayed the same.

pak: @DanJohn,

I admire your intelligence.

Very analytical and detailed. Wish we can have more Nigerians with your kind of aptitude.


Hope you don't mind if I ask what course you studied and what do you do (as in work) ?

Thank you very much for the compliment. I studied business administration and I currently work as a Finance Professional.

When America (especially their loosing parties in almost every election) would rather dump the electoral college....someone wants it for another country?

By the way, the easy and clear process of popular votes is not even practiced correctly in Nigeria ...now we should go for a more obfuscating process!

Sir, we can stick to prayers...Nigeria Pray.

Hi @danjohn, I admire your indepth analysis of the electoral college in Nigeria. If I may ask, is there any way the percentage winnings of a state translate to how many electoral vote a person gets from a state instead of the winner take all that is currently being proposed. The only condition for winner take all can then be when you get more than 70% of the popular vote. A 51% vote = all available electoral college vote is unfair cos the challenge is pretty close... Just my thoughts sha.....

Now, I'm convinced of Gowon's real personality. I had taken him a victim of circumstance but I was sincerely wrong. Gowon is a wicked man and the blood of those he DELIBERATELY murdered will hunt him to his grave and it won't take long.

we need to first clean/treat the trabalism running in our blood.

danjohn: In the United States, electoral college votes are allocated based on the number of senators and representatives a state has in the Federal Congress. If we adopted that same rule below is the number of electoral college votes each state will receive. We will have a total of 469 electoral college votes and 235 will be needed to win a Presidential Election.

Below is a scenario that I put together as a guide. There are obviously caveats since every election cycle has its own unique dynamics.

The Analysis by DanJohn is one of the most analytical and intelligent post ever in Nairaland , more kudos Dan John .
However before we talk of Electoral college Nigeria should gets int Census right, i have it on track that Nigeria is barely above 100 Million people the rest is Ghost Population you can recheck this fact by going back to the 1962 census that was done by an expatriate and given the fact that the poluation growth rate is between 3 % and 4 % as shown below

Perhaps to fully understand the census figures of 1991, it might be necessary to revisit the previous census figures of 1963. The first post independent Nigerian head count occurred in 1962 that put Nigeria population at 45.26 million. At the end of the exercise, northern Nigeria was 22.01 million while the south was 23.25 million. Southern hopes for reapportionment of legislative seats were buoyed by the results. When this result was presented to Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, the Prime Minister, who was a northerner, he rejected the result outright.

http://nigeriaworld.com/articles/2006/mar/211.html

Nigerias Pouplation would have doubled by 1995 to about 90.52 million

Scaling it up to 2012 Nigeria should be having a population of 135.78 Million when the number of people who died in the
Civil war an estimate of 3 Million and the Sharia riots, Boko Haram insurgency , armed robbery , ritual Killing ,Political assasination , abortions subsidy riots , militancy e.t.c we would have a figure of 5 Million souls when this figure is removed from the total poulation of 130 million
This brings the population of Nigeria to 130 Million.

The second issue is this bearing in Mind the Nigerians who are in Diaspora it would be wrong to give SE very low Electoral college figures since most of their citizens are in neighbouring African countries and also in other Nigerian Cities like Lagos , Kano , Kaduna ,Jos , a Very thorough 2014 Census which should involve the use of very detailed Biometrics Technology to remove rigging will address this though.

The population of Nigerians 18 years above obtained during the last National ID card project should also be analysed for use of Electrol College system and state of Origin rather than state of residence should be used to award the Electoral college voting powers and my reasons are these.

There are many Hausa Fulani in Plateau who are having running battle with the indigenes of whom include General Yakubu Gowon , giving them Electoral College rights will amount to loss of power of the indigneneous people.

This also affects igbos in Lagos and Kano

Perhaps to fully understand the census figures of 1991, it might be necessary to revisit the previous census figures of 1963. The first post independent Nigerian head count occurred in 1962 that put Nigeria population at 45.26 million. At the end of the exercise, northern Nigeria was 22.01 million while the south was 23.25 million. Southern hopes for reapportionment of legislative seats were buoyed by the results. When this result was presented to Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, the Prime Minister, who was a northerner, he rejected the result outright.

Abubakar saw no reason why southern Nigeria should have been more populated than the north. He promptly fired the British representative, J. J. Warren, who was in charge of the census and usurped the position. He then called for a 1963 census. Following the recount, he announced that northerners were undercounted by a whopping 8.5 million!

The South did not waste time disputing the new figures. Following a little doctoring, the North was finally put at 29.8 million, a little less than the 31 million attained previously in the recount while the South was reduced to 25.9 million. In the recount, the East, Midwest, and Lagos remained virtually where they were in the 1962 census at 12.4, 2.5, and 0.7 million, respectively. The West increased from 7.8 million in 1962 to 10.3 million in 1963


Tafawa Balewa rejected the Census organised by the Brits and instead did a second census where he increased the population of the north from 22 million to 29.8 million and increased the population of the South west yorubas from 7.8 million to 10.3 million to buy the souls of the yorubas .

Yhis is rather were the problem of Nigeria started and we should go there to solve the problem and not just hallucinating about an Electoral College that has worked for US which has no population issues

Bro I tink u r a real political pundit, u r an informed being, very explicit analysis, I can see most of d commentators here are commentn jst either on a yoruba south or an ibo east all these myopic pple are nt aware dat GEJ won elections as a result of swing vote in d 8 middle belt states where he had overwhelmn returns, so in essence all these north/south bickern about diverse interest is just vry selfish, until d middle belt which holds d final say 2 possible outcomes of aggregation of interest is brought 2 fore in understandn voters behaviour/ votin pattern in d pol geography of nigeria

danjohn:

Also please note that the North is not a monolithic region. There is diversity. There are 19 states in the North (20 if you include Abuja) and Buhari won only 12 of them. 8 voted for Jonathan: Taraba, Benue, Kogi, Kwara, Adamawa, Nasarawa, Plataeu and Abuja. There are swing states in the North that can vote for a southerner or a northerner depending on the election.

The issue I have with the electoral college is that it can make candidates to abandon states. When a candidate has to win the popular vote, they campaign everywhere because they need all the votes they can find. However, with the electoral college system, most candidates will focus their time and effort on the states I mentioned above plus Kaduna because they can swing either way. Nonetheless, there are always caveats and every election has its own unique dynamics.