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Something Can Come From Nothing. by bawomolo(m): 7:45pm On Feb 25, 2008
this is for the religious followers that babble about "first cause". yeah a particle or matter can come out from zero energy.

Virtual particles are subatomic particles that form out of "nothing" (vacuum fields conceptually analogous to lines of force between magnetic poles) for extremely short periods of time and then disappear again. Such particles permeate space, mediate particle decay, and mediate the exchange of the fundamental forces (electromagnetic, weak, strong, and—in accord with quantum theory—gravititational forces). Virtual particles are real and have measurable effects, but the same uncertainty principle that allows them to come into existence dictates that they cannot be directly observed.

Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, which explains the virtual particle phenomenon, is most commonly stated as follows: It is impossible to exactly and simultaneously measure both the momentum and position of a particle. There is always an uncertainty in momentum and an uncertainty in position. More importantly, these two uncertainties cannot be reduced to zero together.

One consequence of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle is that the energy and duration of a particle are also characterized by complementary uncertainties. There is always, at every point in space and time, even in a perfect vacuum, an uncertainty in energy and an uncertainty in duration, and these two complementary uncertainties cannot be reduced to zero simultaneously.

The meaning of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle is that "something" can arise from "nothing" if the "something" returns to the "nothing" after a very short time—an interval too short in which to be observed. These micro-violations of energy conservation are not only allowed to happen, they do, and so "empty" space is seething with particle-antiparticle pairs that come into being and then annihilate each other again after a very short interval. Although these particles cannot be observed individually, their existence can be demonstrated.

for some more info

http://science.jrank.org/pages/7195/Virtual-Particles.html

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mark_vuletic/vacuum.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle
Re: Something Can Come From Nothing. by Nobody: 8:04pm On Feb 25, 2008
Very Good.

Perhaps this also weakly demonstrates how the Uncaused Cause (God) creates beings out of nothingness.
Re: Something Can Come From Nothing. by bawomolo(m): 1:19am On Feb 26, 2008
Perhaps this also weakly demonstrates how the Uncaused Cause (God) creates beings out of nothingness.

in all honesty, a creator or "first cause" would not be needed if something can come out of nothing.
Re: Something Can Come From Nothing. by Nobody: 1:54am On Feb 26, 2008
bawomolo:

this is for the religious followers that babble about "first cause". yeah a particle or matter can come out from zero energy.

Virtual particles are subatomic particles that form out of "nothing" (vacuum fields conceptually analogous to lines of force between magnetic poles) for extremely short periods of time and then disappear again. Such particles permeate space, mediate particle decay, and mediate the exchange of the fundamental forces (electromagnetic, weak, strong, and—in accord with quantum theory—gravititational forces). Virtual particles are real and have measurable effects, but the same uncertainty principle that allows them to come into existence dictates that they cannot be directly observed.

Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, which explains the virtual particle phenomenon, is most commonly stated as follows: It is impossible to exactly and simultaneously measure both the momentum and position of a particle. There is always an uncertainty in momentum and an uncertainty in position. More importantly, these two uncertainties cannot be reduced to zero together.

One consequence of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle is that the energy and duration of a particle are also characterized by complementary uncertainties. There is always, at every point in space and time, even in a perfect vacuum, an uncertainty in energy and an uncertainty in duration, and these two complementary uncertainties cannot be reduced to zero simultaneously.

The meaning of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle is that "something" can arise from "nothing" if the "something" returns to the "nothing" after a very short time—an interval too short in which to be observed. These micro-violations of energy conservation are not only allowed to happen, they do, and so "empty" space is seething with particle-antiparticle pairs that come into being and then annihilate each other again after a very short interval. Although these particles cannot be observed individually, their existence can be demonstrated.

for some more info

http://science.jrank.org/pages/7195/Virtual-Particles.html

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mark_vuletic/vacuum.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle


worker of iniquity. if u believe wat u believe, let others follow their own too. why pushing stuffs down peoples throat?
Re: Something Can Come From Nothing. by Nobody: 3:17am On Feb 26, 2008
@ posterwas this supposed to be a scientific work or,
Re: Something Can Come From Nothing. by olabowale(m): 7:14am On Feb 26, 2008
@Bawomolo:
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Perhaps this also weakly demonstrates how the Uncaused Cause (God) creates beings out of nothingness.

in all honesty, a creator or "first cause" would not be needed if something can come out of nothing.
In all honesty, Bawomolo, you and those who postulate like forget hat your knowledge, and all your senses, regardless of how acute, do not know everything. Therefore your argument that there is no need for a Creator or as you meekly called it, "first cause," is based on your incapability to think in an "Altimate" term or possibility.

Your deficient judgement which produces such ineffective statement above is unconvincing, for if there no abundant proof that such a Creator exists, you will never be trying so hard to disprove Him, while all the while, subconsciously you surpress the urge to be honest about what your soul continues to acknowledge. Your heart must be a very terrible heart!

Could please tell me what was the state of mankind prior to the beginning of atheism and agnotism? Have you heard about the notion of cause and effect and every reaction is based on an action? What action brought a Big Bang reaction of the particle that must have reacted to an action in the first place which brought it to a state of existence, before the second reaction, which was the "explosion," known as the Big Bang? What brought brought about these two primodal action/reaction efects?

1) How did the particle came into existence before the action of Big bang even occurred? What caused the action the action that the nothingness reacted to that all of a sudden the particle came about, into existence? Come to think of it, KAG, this must be the first Virtual particle! Hence, your theory about first virtual particle occurring after Big Bang is a fluke.

2) How did the Big Bang came about on the existing particle? What caused it; What brought the action upon the particle that brought such a reaction?
Re: Something Can Come From Nothing. by Nobody: 10:50am On Feb 26, 2008
bawomolo:

in all honesty, a creator or "first cause" would not be needed if something can come out of nothing.
@bawomolo
Science is all about the law of causality. To maintain that something can come out of nothing is UNSCIENTIFIC.

I am sure you do not know HOW these virtual particles are formed out of nothing.

God is the Uncaused Cause. Fortunately, low level scientific experiments can never detect Him.
Re: Something Can Come From Nothing. by bawomolo(m): 2:51pm On Feb 26, 2008
Science is all about the law of causality. To maintain that something can come out of nothing is UNSCIENTIFIC.

I am sure you do not know HOW these virtual particles are formed out of nothing.

God is the Uncaused Cause. Fortunately, low level scientific experiments can never detect Him.

low level? how so??

did u read the articles?? have u heard of Heisenberg uncertainty principle??

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