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Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by thegoodjoehunt(m): 2:02pm On Jan 22, 2013 |
honeric01: We should not even try that Obiora Nwankwo of a person. He is too slow and a poor tackler. Mikel isn't good at tackling or isn't fast tracking back. So Obiora would not help Mikel. Mikel's game is passing and moving forward to control the game. We need a ball winner/tackler to win the ball back for him. Just as Sani Kaita did at the U20 World Cup. What killed us was Ogude bombarding forward. If he had stayed fixed in front of the defense and winning the ball, he would have had a better game. When Ogude goes forward, he has to tackle roughly to win the ball. I will still go with Ogude but he shouldn't overlap. Just the way Makalele does it. |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by thegoodjoehunt(m): 2:07pm On Jan 22, 2013 |
naijaobi: something baffles me.. Hw can keshi keep omeruo, a natural right back on the bench and instead played efe ambrose who is a natural centeral back... It is very annoying.. We all know that ambrose plays well for his club in that centeral back position, why play him in the right back position?? The truth is, Yobo's time as a Super Eagles player is up. Ambrose and Ogbobona would have been a better defense pair. While Omeruo should have played as a right back. Our Godfatherism football manner is really killing the Super Eagles. That is why Osaze wanted the Captain band, so someone can speak up for the wrong the team is facing. |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by thegoodjoehunt(m): 2:12pm On Jan 22, 2013 |
TouchDown: Yes I really liked his confrontations with the referee for his poor officiating. It made me wonder, where is our captain. 1 Like |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by thegoodjoehunt(m): 2:16pm On Jan 22, 2013 |
pelezico: Osaze was letting Nigerians know the injustice going on and the Social media is the fastest means of doing that. |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by emmasege: 2:17pm On Jan 22, 2013 |
Yobo has outlived his time in the national team and so has Enyeama. Let the captain's band be given to Mikel. I see a bright future if he and all these young boys can be fielded together continuously. They are more daring and success-hungry. i do not see any Yak, osaze or even Ike Uche scoring that type of Emenike's goal. 1 Like |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by thegoodjoehunt(m): 2:22pm On Jan 22, 2013 |
honeric01: Yobo should have been dropped for Ambrose. It is as Simple as that. Ambrose is a better central defender than Yobo. Secondly Omeruo's overlapping is fantastic. He is also good at holding the Left winger. When Ancelotti used Ivanovic as a right back, Ferreira was injured and was very poor. As Chelsea now has Azpilicuetta, you can't see a coach dropping Azpili that easily and playing Ivanovic as a RB when he will do better as a defender. Now Ambrose has a red card and we are stuck with Yobo. Keshi was wrong there. |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by thegoodjoehunt(m): 2:26pm On Jan 22, 2013 |
honeric01: Andreas Villas Boas was 16 years old when he confronted the great Bobby Robson. A legendary coach that has coached Barcelona, England etc. Boas made Coach Robson know the tactical mistakes he made while Robson coached FC Porto. After that meeting, Robson took Boas to work with him and Mourinho. So you must not go to a coaching school to know when a coach makes a mistake. |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by ow11(m): 3:22pm On Jan 22, 2013 |
My own rating Enyeama (6) - Did all he was asked to do and wasn't at fault for the goal. Ambrose (5) - Joined the attack but had issues with the pace of Man Ugly (Aristide Bance). Did place a wrong pass to Musa when Ideye was open. Since he is actually a ball playing CB, I would like to see him pair Oboabona in our WC qualifiers. Very unfortunate to be sent off. The trickery of Pitriopa got him off the field Yobo (4) - Calamity Yobo. Poor Leadership skills and largely at fault for not instructing the players to hold on to the ball. Did throw himself into the challenges in the first half Oboabona (4.5) - Poor game riddled with school boy errors (ballooning the ball out of the defence). Kept Dagano quiet for most of the game but pushed up with the midfielders in that sad attack foray in the 93rd minute Echiejile (5) - Dependable. Despite his horror show against CVI, he was not caught out of position and kept his head Mikel (7) - Easily the man of the match, would have gotten a 9 if he actually scored but sprayed passes and tried to link the midfield with the attack. He 'strolling back' to position always put the defence under pressure. Dude needs to improve his work rate. Ogude (3) - Very poor game. Bad positioning and deserved Ambrose's card. Should never have started the game if Reuben was fit. Maybe this is because the Norweigian league ended in October Igiebor (5.5) - Decent game. Nothing special! High work rate in covering for Mikel's lack of pace. Should keep his place in the next game. Musa (6) - Tormentor in chief whose nemesis was keshi's insistence on switching wings in the 2nd half. Made decent runs and crosses and helped the defence a lot. chased every ball but his exhuberance led to the ill fated attack in the 93rd minute Ideye (6) - decent game. Missed chances but wonderful assist! Was missing for most parts of the game because his positioning was rarely picked up by the slow mid field. Great addition to the SE Emenike (7) - Decent centre-forward shift. scored a good goal with high work rate. Didn't come deep to help his defence and was unlucky to be taken off instead of ideye SUBS Uche (5) - one word! wasteful Onazi (5) - came in to shore up the midfield and didn't do anything wrong Omeruo (5) - put in a decent shift at RB thegoodjoehunt: Agreed! Yobo is now our nemesis! Ambrose , Omeruo , Oboabona are our best defenders 1 Like |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by Arnoldo(m): 4:14pm On Jan 22, 2013 |
Afam4eva:u dey sleep,u no knw say na mikel collect man of the match 4 cofrence room,if na shittu get d chance ikuche get hm 4 score 1..abi na black and white tv u watch? 1 Like |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by naijaobi(m): 5:42pm On Jan 22, 2013 |
thegoodjoehunt:thank you for this post bro... Some people here are acting as if keshi is jose mourinho.. Simply put he made a very trribble mistake in fielding ambrose as a right back..period. thanks for the above post bro...u understand football. 1 Like |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by ayusco: 7:53pm On Jan 22, 2013 |
My player ratings Enyeama 6. Wasn't troubled much throughout the match decent shift could do nothing about the goal Yobo 3. Absolute horrendous performance last night made silly errors here and there. He failed miserable in. His role as a captain. Oboabona 6. If not for his last minute error that led to the goal I would have given him a higher rating. Our best defender on the night good positional play intercepted danger balls strong in the tackle Elderson 4.5. Just THERE barely above average wasn't a rock when defending didn't contribute much up-front either Ambrose 4.5. Never looked comfortable at the RB position pitriopa's pace n trickery disturbed him till he got sent off Ogude 3.5. Rough uncompossed lacked passing finesse looked a shade over-weight lucky not to be sent off Igiebor 5. Tried his best but hard a poor game can do better way ward shooting Mikel 7.5. Provided the long ball that led to the goal. Kept the midfield ticking tended to delay release of ball though overall excellent midfield performance Musa 5.worked hard but no end product shoddy passing. Was one of a trio of players who were naïve not to run the clock down in the final seconds of the match Ideye 6. Exquisite flick for emenike's goal full of running handful for the burkinabe defence to be fair didn't get enough supply Emenike 7. Showed strength and determination for his goal. Decent hold up play Subs: Omeruo 6. Showed composure in defence decent going forward. If only he had started from the beginning Ike Uche 5. Like someone else said skill positional play A1 goal scoring F9. Also responsible for the last minute goal debacle. Onazi 4.5. Was on for not too long to be judged comprehensively but brought composure and calmness to the middle. Should have taken the ball to the corner flag to run down the time 1 Like |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by honeric01(m): 9:27pm On Jan 22, 2013 |
thegoodjoehunt: Obiora is good, slow? maybe, but a bad tackler? that's not so true, he can't be worse than Ogude na patapata, Olofinjana style, you shouldn't say Obiora can't help Mikel because you have never been to their trainings and you do not know how they perform overthere. Ogude actually didn't bomboard forward, rather he was switching position with Mikel once in a while, he did most of the staying back and his tackles were becoming worrisome too. Ogude is too raw and always a customer to the ref's whistle. What i do not like is Keshi taking an half-fit Rueben to the nations cup just to warm the bench, i don't even think he's going to be fit for the next match. thank God moses is going to be around, i want to see Musa and moses running riot on the wings. thegoodjoehunt: Being the first game, using Yobo was never an issue, if he had not used Yobo, would we have known he was not confident enough for the game? if he hadn't used him and we lost, won't people scream about "benching experience"? he used Ambrose as a RB maybe because Ambrose performed well as a RB during warm up matches/training, so you can't blame the coach at all. As for Omeruo, not that i don't like him, but i feel he wasn't cut out to start the first game, now that Ambrose is not available, we can fully see how "useful" Kenneth is come friday. Omeruo a holding "left winger"? are you serious? any link to back this up? you mean he's a 2 legged player? Let me tell you, I'd take Ivanovic twice before thinking of the latter. infact, why should you even be using chelsea to judge Keshi? what correlation do they have in common? even Barca use Andriano as CB sometimes, use Puyol as RB,LB, so what's wrong with using a CB as a RB? because he got red-carded or what? he did absolutely well and supported the attackers more often than the 2 CBs and the LB, so let's stop all these bla bla bla. Keshi was not wrong, he picked who he believed in and you can't tell him he's wrong because you were NEVER in the camp to know who was actually performing better during training as a RB. thegoodjoehunt: In Nigeria, every claims to be a coach, what tactical mistake are you talking about? picking Ambrose as a RB is a tactical mistake because he got a red card that is debatable or what exactly? Ambrose performed better than the rest 2 defenders and slightly below Ogbaboana, so what again are you saying? |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by anorue401: 11:00pm On Jan 22, 2013 |
[color=#990000][/color] dunno y yobo hat to b invited every Afcon to come to captain 9ja, kai so vex 1 Like |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by thegoodjoehunt(m): 1:05am On Jan 23, 2013 |
honeric01: I don't need to go to the training camp, to know how Obiora plays. Obiora played for us in the second U20 team coached by Siasia. He also played lots of games for Inter Milan under Rafa Benitez. Remember the match Bale destroyed Maicon? Well Obiora was there in that match. It was Obiora Bale passed many times before he got to Maicon. He is slower than Mikel Obi and a poorer tackler than Mikel. Mikel needs a fast and strong tackler to balance his midfield play and Obiora of a Nwankwo can never. As for Omeruo, as a right back, his job as a right back(defensively) is to mark and take out the left winger. That is what I meant by holding the left winger. By the way Omeruo is a better than Ambrose at the right back position and Ambrose is in better form than Yobo at the Central defense role. So it makes us wonder how Yobo made that team line up and Ambrose ending up off position. Finally as for AVB, he was just a fan when he pointed out errors in the tactics and strategy of one of the greatest coaches in the game (Bobby Robson). If he could do that, why do you think some Nigerian fans can't point out Mistakes of Coach Keshi. |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by thegoodjoehunt(m): 1:11am On Jan 23, 2013 |
honeric01: As for Ogude, he was never suppose to go forward or so called inter change with Mikel. To cope with Mikel's play and give Mikel freedom to express himself, we need someone to sit in front of the defense and protect them when the midfield loses the ball. That was what Oliseh used to do foor Jay-Jay. That was why when the ball was lost in the match, our defense was unprotected from the counter attack. |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by honeric01(m): 7:57am On Jan 23, 2013 |
thegoodjoehunt: You don't need to be at the camp to know how Obiora plays, yet you are condemning him? haven't you seen players who perform well at the club but bad with the national team, vice versa? if Obiora was not good enough, the coach wouldn't have taken him knowing fully well that Obiora is not even a household player. Well, i thought you mean he's a left winger (you may have to modify your previous post). I insist, you can't say if Omeruo is better or not because you obviously do not know why he's being benched for Ambrose, the best you can do is try to ask the coach why he prefers a CB to a natural RB. AVB did that maybe because the error was too glaring, but here in Nigeria, EVERYONE claims to be a coach, what Keshi did is not new and if Ambrose hadn't been red-carded, most of you wouldn't be saying all these. Ambrose didn't do badly as a RB apart from the cards he got from the anti-SE ref. |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by honeric01(m): 8:05am On Jan 23, 2013 |
thegoodjoehunt: He was never what? why are you guys always thinking you can teach a coach which tactics he should use and how he should work? if he decides to interchange mikel with ogude periodically, it's his call and you can't fault him for doing what he believes in. the best you can do is apply for the same job if you believe you can do better. i am tired of people criticizing at every given opportunity. the coach did what he believed in and it worked for him for 90mins + until the short madness. How many of his white coach gives mikel room to "express" himself? we had 3 midfielders and 2 out of the 3 are good DM, switching from time to time was never an error because we already had an AM in Nosa, so why are you trying to sound as if Mikel was the only one doing the passing? Mikel threw long passes while Nosa threw short passes, Ogude did dirty jobs, later switched (the card issue). so it's a tactical plan and Nosa was expected to switch on the short passes in the second half while Ogude and Mikel do the defending since we were a goal up already. Let's stop this already. it's just a game and 2 more to go. Moving on! |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by thegoodjoehunt(m): 9:45am On Jan 23, 2013 |
honeric01: I'll say it again, Obiora is very slow, he also came in against Cape Verde. I hope Coach Keshi leaves that boy out. Also, Mikel is not good at tackling, that is bot part of the game, if Ogude goes forward, who shields our defenders. By the way, Siasia dropped Ibrahim Rabiu, one of the stars expected for U20 World Cup then for Obiora Nwankwo and it cost us in that tourney. Obiora Nwankwo is warming the bench at the Serie B. How did Coach Keshi find himV It is clear that there is someone big paying money and pulling strings to get that boy playing time. Mark my words, if Coach Keshi starts that boy in any of this group stage matches, it will cost us the game. |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by honeric01(m): 9:52am On Jan 23, 2013 |
thegoodjoehunt: Mikel is not good at tackling? gosh!, what then has he been doing since 2006 for Chelsea? scoring? I can't shout bro. |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by thegoodjoehunt(m): 9:57am On Jan 23, 2013 |
honeric01:We played better in the first half and our defenders were more protected then. Enyeama was on holidays. In the second half, the erroneous tactical change of Keshi put the defence under pressure and our play became less effective. That is what led to the amount of pressure and the red card. Coach Keshi might have trusted his tactical switch but it cost us a win and 3 points. If I can conplain about Mancini's tactics, why can't I complain about Coach Keshi if he makes a mistake. Ferguson needed a midfielder and had Paul Pogba in his reserves. He chose to bring Scholes back from retirement and now Pogba is a huge revelation and a regular player for Juventus. Although Ferguson is a legend and genius. When he brought Scholes back, I was telling Man Utd Fans that was a mistake. There is nothing wrong there. No coach is perfect, they make mistakes also. |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by thegoodjoehunt(m): 10:00am On Jan 23, 2013 |
honeric01:Go and Check, Mikel always complained that tackling is not his game. He is better intercepting passes and shielding players. Why do you think he picked up lots of red cards early in his career. He couldn't time his tackles. Even in the last match, he clearly missed a tackle. |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by honeric01(m): 10:01am On Jan 23, 2013 |
thegoodjoehunt: Simples: the card to Ogude. |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by honeric01(m): 10:01am On Jan 23, 2013 |
thegoodjoehunt: Complain my foot, he's been in Chelsea doing the dirty job for almost 7 years now. why hasn't he left Chelsea if truly he's complaining? Abeg jor! |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by thegoodjoehunt(m): 10:45am On Jan 23, 2013 |
honeric01: He doesn't like ϑ position he is played but man, he loves ϑ N15 Million a week. He can't walk away from that. He will gladly bench for that 1 Like |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by ow11(m): 11:10am On Jan 23, 2013 |
thegoodjoehunt: Why is this STAR still warming the benches from Sporting Lisbon to PSV to Celtic and NOW KILMARNOCK! He is still NOT good enough to start for Kilmarnock! YET someone on NL believes this overaged short man that can't get a starting shirt in bloody Kilmarnock is BETTER than Igiebor and even Obiora Nwankwo |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by honeric01(m): 11:25am On Jan 23, 2013 |
ow11: I just tire! |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by thegoodjoehunt(m): 11:53am On Jan 23, 2013 |
ow11: First of all, you have no proof that Rabiu is over age. Secondly ϑ attacking midfield role is ϑ most difficult position to play 10. That is why Okocha never played ϑ CAM Role for Frankfurt and Marko Simeone got Okocha moved from ϑ 10 role to ϑ wings at PSG. It is better to be at Kilmarnock than on ϑ bench at Serie B ,d Rabiu went to Kilmarnock because he was promised playing time to prove himself. MY question is how was Obiora scouted, at least Rabiu has been called up by different coaches. Did Keshi go to watch Serie B or did John Shittu sort him. Now you want him to play for us. Obiora had an easier role to play at Inter, yet Joel Obi became ϑ star there. Joel Obi didn't get a call from Keshi but ϑ Serie B bencher was seen. Corruption kills football. |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by thegoodjoehunt(m): 12:05pm On Jan 23, 2013 |
ow11: Please I never said Rabiu should have been picked over Nosa. I was talking of ϑ U20 that was suppose to be played by ϑ Yemi Tela's boys. Siasia went contrary to ϑ cries of ϑ Nigerian people and changed ϑ best team to have played for Nigeria at any level in recent years. I don't think Kanu, Oruma and Ojigwe's U17 team even did better. A team that won all their matches in ϑ competition and thrashing a star studded German team with Toni Kroos and Sukuta Pasu. He replaced ϑ team with mediocre arrange players and we lost to Germany and Spain in that tourney. Teams beaten by Yemi Tela's boys. He replaced ϑ best Keeper of ϑ U17 who conceeded only one goal in ϑ tournament and saved all ϑ penalties in ϑ final competition. Please Obiora got in there because of corruption and can never be a better midfielder than Rabiu. It is just that his godfather is strong. If Coach Keshi wanted a skilful team, Ibrahim Rabiu would have made ϑ list. Also Raheem Lawal. |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by ow11(m): 12:12pm On Jan 23, 2013 |
You never give up. Now it is his holy number '10' position. If No coach in the world can find a suitable position for the STAR, Then he should go to the circus where he can entertain you with his juggling abilities. The ability to sell a dummy to tactically naive 16 year olds IS NOT the same as playing attacking midfield against MEN! Maybe you should go and watch Kwadwo Asamoah and Kevin Prince-Boateng and come back and tell me how attacking midfielders still get to play. - Joel Obi is injured! - Obiora played in the Champions league and Serie A. Which games has Rabiu played? The talented superstar with heavenly abilities no coach can use has played THREE (3) first team games in two years and that is the player you want to start at the AFCON and go up against Bakary Kone, Alain Traore and Jonathan Pitriopa? At one point, uber talented Rabiu was sent to the Portuguese 2nd Division and the dude still couldnt get his old a** off the bench! - He went to Kilmarnock to get game time. Yet, Kilmarnock lost a game three days ago with the greatest midfielder Nigeria has produced since 1994 missing from even the bench! - Lastly, Rabiu Ibrahim dribbled 16 year olds in 2007. That is 6 years ago! in that time, Victor Moses, Danny Welbeck and Yousef Msakni (all played at that tournament) have gone on to play matches against men. He is still waiting for a free SE pass to earn a living. |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by thegoodjoehunt(m): 12:34pm On Jan 23, 2013 |
ow11: You never give up. Now it is his holy number '10' position. If No coach in the world can find a suitable position for the STAR, Then he should go to the circus where he can entertain you with his juggling abilities. First of all, the K.P. Boateng you talked about was German Young player of the year before he was sold to Tottenham. At Tottenham, he ended on the bench. Mikel Obi was a fantastic midfielder sort after by the best clubs but at Chelsea FC, he has never, I repeat never played the 10 role but he has been able to play as a defensive midfielder for years at Chelsea. Obiora is playing as a defensive midfielder, so it is easier for him to make it. That is why he got games at Inter and failed woefully till he was kicked out. There is a midfield genius at Man Utd called Davide Petrucci who was seen as the hope of Italian football. He also plays the creative attack midfield role and has never had a game for Man Utd despite him being a genius. So it is easier for Obiora to get games but he keeps flopping while Rabiu is fighting for a chance to prove himself. By the way you are just twisting the debate. Ibrahim Rabiu isn't on the team, Obiora is. I am saying that putting Obiora into that team will bring calamity to us. Coach Keshi shouldn't even try that. He is slower than Mikel and he won't help the team. Kilmarnock isn't a big team, so them losing can't be put on Rabiu. Are you saying because QPR is flopping, you will blame Taarabt and Granero? Finally Rabiu is on the right track going to Kilmarnock, although I would have preferred him going to Turkey to build his way. Sporting Lisbon was a wrong move, although it definitely helped his skill growth being a team of creative players. Sporting is star studded and filled up with skillful players. So it was difficult for him to springboard himself with his performance at the U17. |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by ow11(m): 12:49pm On Jan 23, 2013 |
He was NOT dressed for the game meaning in simple terms that he has regressed from bench duties to watching his team play from the stands. Now you say it has to do with positions. A coach will pick a player he thinks can win. If four coaches think a player is not good enough then he isn't. I pray the day Taarabt will be sort after by the best clubs in Europe. Football goes beyond juggling abilities after you graduate from the youth team! If Petrucci is any good, Scholes wouldn't be cajoled out of retirement. Scholes himself replaced a midfield icon in Paul Ince when he was Petrucci's age. The only player I wish Keshi took was Kalu Uche. One of these days, a new AM (Rabiu is not He) will come to save our midfield till then we have to work with formations that don't require the full complements of an AM. |
Re: Player Rating: Nigeria Vs Burkina Faso by coogar: 12:56pm On Jan 23, 2013 |
petrucci is better than scholes was at age 21 but alex ferguson has lost his senses lately. he doesn't give the youth players a chance anymore like he did in the mid-90s. i mean, he let paul pogba and ravel morrison(2 brightest young talents) in the premier league leave.....pogba is doing wonders for juventus now and i am very sure petrucci is equally talented if not more talented than pogba. until scholes/giggs call it a day, fergie will not promote the precocious talents in the united academy! 2 Likes |
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