See deep-seated hatred!!!! To the Shia, only one event deserves to be remembered - the tragedy of Karbala. All the muslims killed during the time of the Prophet (PBUH) are not even mentioned. That is actually the foundation of extremism
You Shias need serious dua!
you have psychological problems,and you do not only need dua but also psycho-therapy.
see the way you've twisted his words.when Iran sent help to Bosnia (and also does to the Palestinians),Shia Iran never saw them as Sunnis or Shia,but just as oppressed people and muslims.
he is not against remembering muslims who are killed or died.he is against your very Sunni attitude of remembering every dead,except the tragedy of Karbala,as if it never happened.that is the point.the defect is from your side.
and you can see it summarized in the below video by a furious and disappointed Sunni cleric lecturing your types:
See deep-seated hatred!!!! To the Shia, only one event deserves to be remembered - the tragedy of Karbala. All the muslims killed during the time of the Prophet (PBUH) are not even mentioned. That is actually the. foundation of extremism
Sunnis mourn by offering condolence, praying janazzah, giving lectures etc. I am not sure that is what has been done here.
We don't wail or beat ourselves.
It is instructive that your only post on this thread is not about the massacre of Muslims but about difference in manhaj of Muslims and Shias. I have said it several times, whenever the Nigerian state talks about Iran flooding Nigeria with arms, Shias want muslims to correct that impression. Next minute, they start attacking muslims
You guys need serious dua!
Lol! u know, I posted this thread www.nairaland.com/1107676/why-muslims-not-commemorate-husayn which clearly puts the two faced nature of those who like to commemorate the death of Husayn r.a, so many muslims died of injustice far before Husayn r.a was martyed yet zhul fiqars heart does not bleed! He then reduces the death of muslims in bosnia to a terrorist cry for battle, showing how genuine his being a shia is! Christians are here down playing the deaths of muslims and shias are here backing them up very and even labeling it a terrorist cry! Truly need dua this sort of thing is not new it was witness in crusades, the mongol invasion, Iraq, etc
you have psychological problems,and you do not only need dua but also psycho-therapy.
see the way you've twisted his words.when Iran sent help to Bosnia (and also does to the Palestinians),Shia Iran never saw them as Sunnis or Shia,but just as oppressed people and muslims.
he is not against remembering muslims who are killed or died.he is against your very Sunni attitude of remembering every dead,except the tragedy of Karbala,as if it never happened.that is the point.the defect is from your side.
and you can see it summarized in the below video by a furious and disappointed Sunni cleric lecturing your types:
Only a misguided Sunni will remember (RA) every dead except Hussein (RA) and his family The point is that how do we remember the dead? We relate the story like Tbaba did here. We don't set any day aside for remembering anyone including Hussein's father (Ali, RA) and grandfather, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) If you have evidence to the contrary, please provide it
But your brother did not say anything about the massacre. He did not say anything about it being a sad event. He did not want it mentioned because "Sunnis don't mourn for more than 3 days" BTW others are reading this thread and they can see what everyone has said. There is no need for anyone in the ring to pretend to be a judge
As for the video, do you really think the failure of some Sunnis to remember an event is enough to make anyone switch to Shia
So I will become a Shia and start cursing Umar and Abu Bakr (RAA)? I will start saying anyone apart from Allah can just say kun faya kun and it will happen? I will start saying "to Hussain/Fatima/Ali/(RAA) Mohammed (SAW) we belong and to them we will return?"
Lol! u know, I posted this thread www.nairaland.com/1107676/why-muslims-not-commemorate-husayn which clearly puts the two faced nature of those who like to commemorate the death of Husayn r.a, so many muslims died of injustice far before Husayn r.a was martyed yet zhul fiqars heart does not bleed! He then reduces the death of muslims in bosnia to a terrorist cry for battle, showing how genuine his being a shia is! Christians are here down playing the deaths of muslims and shias are here backing them up very and even labeling it a terrorist cry! Truly need dua this sort of thing is not new it was witness in crusades, the mongol invasion, Iraq, etc
Exactly. If you want to bring the issue of Hussain, open another thread. Let us learn from the Srebrenica issue But Shias are often applauded by Christians when they start attacking Sunnis I am waiting for the next weapon consignment from Iran to see how the Christians will exonerate them BTW contrary to the falsehood, Shia set a special day aside for Hussain (RA) and pays little attention to others Was Hussain (RA) the only Muslim ever massacred. The type of favouritism they practise is what the Prophet (SAW) warned us against when he warned that if his (SAW) daughter Fatima (RA) stole, he (SAW) would cut off her hand Why are they quiet about Hassan (RA) anyway? They don't treat him (RA) like a Massum May Allah guide us
Exactly. If you want to bring the issue of Hussain, open another thread. Let us learn from the Srebrenica issue But Shias are often applauded by Christians when they start attacking Sunnis I am waiting for the next weapon consignment from Iran to see how the Christians will exonerate them BTW contrary to the falsehood, Shia set a special day aside for Hussain (RA) and pays little attention to others Was Hussain (RA) the only Muslim ever massacred. The type of favouritism they practise is what the Prophet (SAW) warned us against when he warned that if his (SAW) daughter Fatima (RA) stole, he (SAW) would cut off her hand Why are they quiet about Hassan (RA) anyway? They don't treat him (RA) like a Massum May Allah guide us
Hussein (as) is the grandson of your Prophet (s),mister.if the grandson of the Prophet (s) can be beheaded,and his family and companions too murdered,and others taken captives as the kuffar are taken prisoners of war,such is the most catastrophic day in Islam.we do not practice favoritism.we practice justice.what you do is cherry-picking and a display of selective memory.
let us leave the Tragedy of Karbala,since it is in the interest of your Sunni sect not to remember anything about it,to preserve the image of your sunni caliphate and those who preceded yazid.let us deal with a current happening.in Pakistan in the last 20 to 30 years,over 20,000 Shia have been massacred.why didnt tbaba feel for them? or are they not humans? Sebrenica is happening everyday in Pakistan,carried out by the Wahhabis/salafists.you forget that the Christians are watching when those Sunni fanatics massacre the Shia? we do support the people of Bosnia and sympathize with them.but I was moved to comment because of tbaba's evident hypocrisy.when muslims (sunnis) are killed in Burma,we Shia don't refrain to show our sympathy and support,regardless of sectarian issues or differences.
here we have two threads in this forum highlighting the crimes of the Wahhabis/salafists,that tbaba associates/identifies himself with:
when sympathy and an expression of humanity only become evident when your own is concerned,that is not being a humanist but a fanatic and a sectarianist who disregards humanity and the sanctity of human life, when Allah (swt) says: "he who kills an innocent soul,it is as if he has killed all of humanity". Allah (swt) did not say "he who kills an innocent muslim soul" or "an innocent salafist soul".Islam sanctifies life away from religious divisions and far from the inhumanity the salafist/wahabi terrorists are displaying in Pakistan,and Iraq against the Shia,and in Nigeria against the Christians.
Only a misguided Sunni will remember (RA) every dead except Hussein (RA) and his family The point is that how do we remember the dead? We relate the story like Tbaba did here. We don't set any day aside for remembering anyone including Hussein's father (Ali, RA) and grandfather, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) If you have evidence to the contrary, please provide it
But your brother did not say anything about the massacre. He did not say anything about it being a sad event. He did not want it mentioned because "Sunnis don't mourn for more than 3 days" BTW others are reading this thread and they can see what everyone has said. There is no need for anyone in the ring to pretend to be a judge
As for the video, do you really think the failure of some Sunnis to remember an event is enough to make anyone switch to Shia
So I will become a Shia and start cursing Umar and Abu Bakr (RAA)? I will start saying anyone apart from Allah can just say kun faya kun and it will happen? I will start saying "to Hussain/Fatima/Ali/(RAA) Mohammed (SAW) we belong and to them we will return?"
displaying either ignorance or lies is not an except route from the truth.
so the day of Ashura has no significance in Islam? well,yes you will say it does,and then relate it to other events you believe took place that day,but not the tragedy of Karbala.you see what we are saying about avoiding the day of Ashura? even you said it you don't set a day to remember anyone.but you commemorate the day the sebrenica massacre occurred.amazing logic!!!
and we don't believe anyone can say kun fa yakun aside from Allah.if anyone does and have that power,it is by Allah's permission,as we are told in the Quran about Isa (as) and giving life to the dead.stop lying or stop the drama,whichever way.
Only a misguided Sunni will remember (RA) every dead except Hussein (RA) and his family The point is that how do we remember the dead? We relate the story like Tbaba did here. We don't set any day aside for remembering anyone including Hussein's father (Ali, RA) and grandfather, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) If you have evidence to the contrary, please provide it
But your brother did not say anything about the massacre. He did not say anything about it being a sad event. He did not want it mentioned because "Sunnis don't mourn for more than 3 days" BTW others are reading this thread and they can see what everyone has said. There is no need for anyone in the ring to pretend to be a judge
As for the video, do you really think the failure of some Sunnis to remember an event is enough to make anyone switch to Shia
So I will become a Shia and start cursing Umar and Abu Bakr (RAA)? I will start saying anyone apart from Allah can just say kun faya kun and it will happen? I will start saying "to Hussain/Fatima/Ali/(RAA) Mohammed (SAW) we belong and to them we will return?"
you said it you don't set a day to remember anyone.you see the dribbling and dishonesty? as if the massacre/tragedy that happened in Karbala doesn't have a date in the Islamic calendar;but sebrenica does.and even when the Shia mark the day of Ashura,your Wahhabi/salafist brothers bomb them and kill them.
displaying either ignorance or lies is not an except route from the truth.
so the day of Ashura has no significance in Islam? well,yes you will say it does,and then relate it to other events you believe took place that day,but not the tragedy of Karbala.you see what we are saying about avoiding the day of Ashura?
So the day the Prophet (SAW) died has no significance in Islam? So the day the Abu Bakr (RA) died has no significance in Islam? So the day the Umar (RA) died has no significance in Islam? So the day the Uthman (RA) died has no significance in Islam? So the day the Ali (RA) died has no significance in Islam?
Ok. Some of the above were also murdered. Since I don't commemorate any of the above why should I single out the day Hussain (RA) was killed? BTW I know in your largeness of heart you celebrate the murder of Umar (RA). You already commemorate that in your hateful manner.
Zhul-fiqar:
even you said it you don't set a day to remember anyone.but you commemorate the day the sebrenica massacre occurred.amazing logic!!!
So what day was set aside to commemorate the Srebrenica massacre. Please what day was it marked or commemorated in 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013 Tbaba opened this thread on Mar 10. What is the significance of that day to the days when those Muslims were massacred?
Zhul-fiqar:
and we don't believe anyone can say kun fa yakun aside from Allah.if anyone does and have that power,it is by Allah's permission,as we are told in the Quran about Isa (as) and giving life to the dead.stop lying or stop the drama,whichever way.
So the day the Prophet (SAW) died has no significance in Islam? So the day the Ali (RA) died has no significance in Islam?
no one stops you from recalling or marking those days by educating Muslims on what happened.we Shia still to this day commemorate the death of the Prophet (s) in the month of Safar and the martyrdom of Imam Ali (as) in the holy month of Ramadan.however,both the death of the Prophet (s) and the martyrdom of Imam Ali (as) do not carry the catastrophe that the Tragedy of Karbala carries.regardless,we are not intent on making such a comparison because all of them are beloved to us and their absence was undeniably huge loss to the Muslims.but the point I am simply saying is we do remember all of them.it is you who do not,or you choose when to remember and when to forget,and what to remember and what to forget.
we Shia are not like you who consider it okay to mark the massacre of sebrenica but consider it bid'ah to mark the tragedy/massacre of Karbala.
Ok. Some of the above were also murdered. Since I don't commemorate any of the above why should I single out the day Hussain (RA) was killed?
no one is asking you to "single out".we are simply saying if you see nothing wrong with commemorating/marking/remembering the sebrenica massacre,then nothing is wrong in commemorating the tragedy of Karbala or the death of the Prophet (s) or martyrdom of Imam Ali (as),because all these occurrences marked great loss and grief for the Muslim ummah.recalling them will only get the Muslims closer to their deen and history.
you not marking any and then making it seem we are "singling" out only one,is not true.we mark all,even though the martyrdom of Imam Hussein (as) carries more publicity because it was the most tragic event in the history of Islam,where the Prophet's (s) grandson was beheaded,after being besieged,and his household members and their companions killed or taken captives.this is a tragic event,while the martyrdom of Imam Ali (as) which we also mark was a tragic murder/incident,when an accursed struck him with a poisoned sword while he was praying fajr in the masjid in the holy month.we don't "single" out,but you condemn us for remembering those days by accusing us of "bid'ah".
So what day was set aside to commemorate the Srebrenica massacre. Please what day was it marked or commemorated in 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013 Tbaba opened this thread on Mar 10. What is the significance of that day to the days when those Muslims were massacred?
the sebrenica massacre is still remembered.even though tbaba did not open the thread on the particular day the event took place,doesnt mean he is not commemorating it,or those who do commemorate on the exact day are wrong.
Will post the video for this later
there is no need,because you are bent on the issue of intercession because that is where you are bent on rejecting reasoning.you go in circles on that topic and it is boring because it has been discussed many times with you.even if the Shia believe the Prophet (s) or his Ahlul-Bayt (as) have whatever powers,it is by the permission of Allah.you cannot bring me any Shia who believes that any human being has any power independent from the power and permission of Allah (swt).so don't waste our time with propaganda videos that distort the views of others.
ShiaLagos1: no one stops you from recalling or marking those days by educating Muslims on what happened.we Shia still to this day commemorate the death of the Prophet (s) in the month of Safar and the martyrdom of Imam Ali (as) in the holy month of Ramadan.however,both the death of the Prophet (s) and the martyrdom of Imam Ali (as) do not carry the catastrophe that the Tragedy of Karbala carries.regardless,we are not intent on making such a comparison because all of them are beloved to us and their absence was undeniably huge loss to the Muslims.but the point I am simply saying is we do remember all of them.it is you who do not,or you choose when to remember and when to forget,and what to remember and what to forget.
You like to commemorate. We don't based on the number of days of mourning. So what is the problem?
ShiaLagos1: we Shia are not like you who consider it okay to mark the massacre of sebrenica but consider it bid'ah to mark the tragedy/massacre of Karbala.
We Sunnis are not like you who call people names and tell BLATANT lies without feeling any remorse Again, this massacre that you claim that we commemorate, When was it commemorated in 2010, 2011, 2012?
ShiaLagos1: no one is asking you to "single out".we are simply saying if you see nothing wrong with commemorating/marking/remembering the sebrenica massacre,then nothing is wrong in commemorating the tragedy of Karbala or the death of the Prophet (s) or martyrdom of Imam Ali (as),because all these occurrences marked great loss and grief for the Muslim ummah.recalling them will only get the Muslims closer to their deen and history.
We don't commemorate Srebrenica. Please if you have evidence to the contrary provide it Recalling an event at random, especially those not in history books, is not the same as commemoration unless the meaning has changed
ShiaLagos1: you not marking any and then making it seem we are "singling" out only one,is not true.we mark all,even though the martyrdom of Imam Hussein (as) carries more publicity because it was the most tragic event in the history of Islam,where the Prophet's (s) grandson was beheaded,after being besieged,and his household members and their companions killed or taken captives.this is a tragic event,while the martyrdom of Imam Ali (as) which we also mark was a tragic murder/incident,when an accursed struck him with a poisoned sword while he was praying fajr in the masjid in the holy month.we don't "single" out,but you condemn us for remembering those days by accusing us of "bid'ah".
That is what you choose to do. Isn't that part of our differences? But you love these celebrations. You even rejoice and celebrate at the death of some people And you euloigise their murderers As for us, we leave matters to Allah
ShiaLagos1: the sebrenica massacre is still remembered.even though tbaba did not open the thread on the particular day the event took place,doesnt mean he is not commemorating it,or those who do commemorate on the exact day are wrong.
Tell us the date on which it is done! And your objection to this matter is very baffling. What happened in Karbala is not likely to happen again but I know that with the way Shias carry on, if they had the ability, people like me will be thrashing in the throes of death on the anniversary of that day
As for Srebrenica, there are a lot of people directly affected that might commemorate the event (because they don't know abpout 3-day mourning window or don't care). They may and also want to remind people so that they are vigilant lest such a massacre should occur again
ShiaLagos1: there is no need,because you are bent on the issue of intercession because that is where you are bent on rejecting reasoning.you go in circles on that topic and it is boring because it has been discussed many times with you.even if the Shia believe the Prophet (s) or his Ahlul-Bayt (as) have whatever powers,it is by the permission of Allah.you cannot bring me any Shia who believes that any human being has any power independent from the power and permission of Allah (swt).so don't waste our time with propaganda videos that distort the views of others.
hahahaha. This your mind reading is funny I reject certain types of reasoning Shirk is the greatest sin. Some people use the excuse of Tawassul to ask human being, corpses, graves, whatever Allah has denounced them in the Qur'an 39:3 But they persist and see the warning as scaremongering Lawful Tawassul is done by 1. name and attributes of Allah 2. Asking a living person, perceived to have taqwa, to pray for you and 3. Use of deeds done sincerely for the sake of Allah
Any tawassul outside this is risky and might involve shirk. May Allah save us from it
You like to commemorate. We don't based on the number of days of mourning. So what is the problem?
We Sunnis are not like you who call people names and tell BLATANT lies without feeling any remorse Again, this massacre that you claim that we commemorate, When was it commemorated in 2010, 2011, 2012?
We don't commemorate Srebrenica. Please if you have evidence to the contrary provide it Recalling an event at random, especially those not in history books, is not the same as commemoration unless the meaning has changed
That is what you choose to do. Isn't that part of our differences? But you love these celebrations. You even rejoice and celebrate at the death of some people And you euloigise their murderers As for us, we leave matters to Allah
Tell us the date on which it is done! And your objection to this matter is very baffling. What happened in Karbala is not likely to happen again but I know that with the way Shias carry on, if they had the ability, people like me will be thrashing in the throes of death on the anniversary of that day
As for Srebrenica, there are a lot of people directly affected that might commemorate the event (because they don't know abpout 3-day mourning window or don't care). They may and also want to remind people so that they are vigilant lest such a massacre should occur again
there is no need,because you are bent on the issue of intercession because that is where you are bent on rejecting reasoning.you go in circles on that topic and it is boring because it has been discussed many times with you.even if the Shia believe the Prophet (s) or his Ahlul-Bayt (as) have whatever powers,it is by the permission of Allah.you cannot bring me any Shia who believes that any human being has any power independent from the power and permission of Allah (swt).so don't waste our time with propaganda videos that distort the views of others.
and your point is? oh wait! "your daddy is stronger than my daddy" argument.thats it!but with how many lines,when all it takes is 7 words!!!
Zhul-Fiqar.: so after marking the Sebrenica Massacre,now Sunnis have "converts day" in the Netherlands.all these are not "bid'ah".but (let the Shia) mark the day the Prophet (s) was born or died,or any past event of significance to Islam,the Wahhabis/Salafists (i.e. Sunnis) would jump to point fingers against others and accuse them of "bid'ah".
tbaba1234: Srebrenica massacre, slaying of more than 7,000 Bosniak (Bosnian Muslim) boys and men, perpetrated by Bosnian Serb forces in Srebrenica, a town in eastern Bosnia and Herzegovina, in July 1995. In addition to the killings, more than 20,000 civilians were expelled from the area—a process known as ethnic cleansing. The massacre, which was the worst episode of mass murder within Europe since World War II, helped galvanize the West to press for a cease-fire that ended three years of warfare on Bosnia’s territory (see Bosnian conflict). However, it left deep emotional scars on survivors and created enduring obstacles to political reconciliation among Bosnia’s ethnic groups.
The International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia—established before the massacre to scrutinize ongoing military conduct—concluded that the killings at Srebrenica, compounded by the mass expulsion of Bosniak civilians, amounted to genocide. It pinned principal responsibility on senior officers in the Bosnian Serb army. But the United Nations (UN) and its Western supporters also accepted a portion of the blame for having failed to protect the Bosniak men, women, and children in Srebrenica, which in 1993 the UN Security Council had formally designated a “safe area.” In a critical internal review in 1999, UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan wrote, “Through error, misjudgment and an inability to recognize the scope of the evil confronting us, we failed to do our part to help save the people of Srebrenica from the [Bosnian] Serb campaign of mass murder.” Although Serbia was not legally implicated in the massacre, in 2010 the Serbian National Assembly narrowly passed a resolution that apologized for having failed to prevent the killings.
Background
Beginning in 1992, Bosnian Serb forces targeted Srebrenica in a campaign to seize control of a block of territory in eastern Bosnia and Herzegovina. Their eventual goal was to annex this territory to the adjacent republic of Serbia (which, along with Montenegro, constituted the rump of the Yugoslav federation). To do so, they believed, required the expulsion of the territory’s Bosniak inhabitants, who opposed annexation. In March 1995 Radovan Karadžić, president of the self-declared autonomous Republika Srpska (Bosnian Serb Republic), directed his military forces to “create an unbearable situation of total insecurity with no hope of further survival or life for the inhabitants of Srebrenica.” By May a cordon of Bosnian Serb soldiers had imposed an embargo on food and other supplies that provoked most of the town’s Bosniak fighters to flee the area. In late June, after some skirmishes with the few remaining Bosniak fighters, the Bosnian Serb military command formally ordered the operation, code-named Krivaja 95, that culminated in the massacre.
The Srebrenica offensive
The offensive commenced on July 6, 1995, with Bosnian Serb forces advancing from the south and burning Bosniak homes along the way. Amid chaos and terror, thousands of civilians fled Srebrenica for the nearby village of Potočari, where a contingent of about 200 Dutch peacekeepers was stationed. Some of the Dutch surrendered, while others withdrew; none fired on the advancing Bosnian Serb forces. On July 11, Bosnian Serb military leader Ratko Mladić strolled through Srebrenica and, in a statement recorded on film by a Serb journalist, said, “We give this town to the Serb nation.…The time has come to take revenge on the Muslims.”
On the night of July 11, a column of more than 10,000 Bosniak men set off from Srebrenica through dense forest in an attempt to reach safety. Beginning the following morning, Bosnian Serb officers used UN equipment and made false promises of security to encourage the men to surrender; thousands gave themselves up or were captured, and many were subsequently executed. Other Bosniaks were forced out of Potočari that day through the use of terror, including individual murders and rapes committed by Bosnian Serb forces. The women, children, and elderly were placed aboard buses (some of which had been brought from Serbia) and driven to Bosniak-held territory. The men and boys were taken on July 12 and 13 to various holding sites, mostly in Bratunac.
Some killings occurred on the evening of July 12, but mass evacuations of mostly blindfolded Bosniak males to execution sites began in earnest on the evening of July 13. The destinations were primarily north of Srebrenica, in a 35-mile- (55-km-) long band alongside the Drina River, which marks much of Bosnia’s border with Serbia. They included a football field in Bratunac, several meadows and fields near Vlasenica and Nova Kasaba, a warehouse in Kravica, a factory in Karakaj, a school in Orahovac, a dirt road in the Cerska Valley, and a cultural centre in Pilica. The executions continued at least through July 16, when hundreds of people were reportedly shot at a state farm in the village of Branjevo. Although Bosnian Serb forces were primarily responsible for the killings, a police unit from Serbia was recorded on video participating in the execution of six Bosniaks. It was discovered later that many of the victims of the massacre had had their arms and feet bound. Many of the bodies also showed signs of mutilation.
The offensive commenced on July 6, 1995, with Bosnian Serb forces advancing from the south and burning Bosniak homes along the way. Amid chaos and terror, thousands of civilians fled Srebrenica for the nearby village of Potočari, where a contingent of about 200 Dutch peacekeepers was stationed. Some of the Dutch surrendered, while others withdrew; none fired on the advancing Bosnian Serb forces. On July 11, Bosnian Serb military leader Ratko Mladić strolled through Srebrenica and, in a statement recorded on film by a Serb journalist, said, “We give this town to the Serb nation.…The time has come to take revenge on the Muslims.”
On the night of July 11, a column of more than 10,000 Bosniak men set off from Srebrenica through dense forest in an attempt to reach safety. Beginning the following morning, Bosnian Serb officers used UN equipment and made false promises of security to encourage the men to surrender; thousands gave themselves up or were captured, and many were subsequently executed. Other Bosniaks were forced out of Potočari that day through the use of terror, including individual murders and Molests committed by Bosnian Serb forces. The women, children, and elderly were placed aboard buses (some of which had been brought from Serbia) and driven to Bosniak-held territory. The men and boys were taken on July 12 and 13 to various holding sites, mostly in Bratunac.
Some killings occurred on the evening of July 12, but mass evacuations of mostly blindfolded Bosniak males to execution sites began in earnest on the evening of July 13. The destinations were primarily north of Srebrenica, in a 35-mile- (55-km-) long band alongside the Drina River, which marks much of Bosnia’s border with Serbia. They included a football field in Bratunac, several meadows and fields near Vlasenica and Nova Kasaba, a warehouse in Kravica, a factory in Karakaj, a school in Orahovac, a dirt road in the Cerska Valley, and a cultural centre in Pilica. The executions continued at least through July 16, when hundreds of people were reportedly shot at a state farm in the village of Branjevo. Although Bosnian Serb forces were primarily responsible for the killings, a police unit from Serbia was recorded on video participating in the execution of six Bosniaks. It was discovered later that many of the victims of the massacre had had their arms and feet bound. Many of the bodies also showed signs of mutilation.
wow...
stories like this make me think @ times: humanity = savagery
Hussein (as) is the grandson of your Prophet (s),mister.if the grandson of the Prophet (s) can be beheaded,and his family and companions too murdered,and others taken captives as the kuffar are taken prisoners of war,such is the most catastrophic day in Islam.we do not practice favoritism.we practice justice.what you do is cherry-picking and a display of selective memory.
let us leave the Tragedy of Karbala,since it is in the interest of your Sunni sect not to remember anything about it,to preserve the image of your sunni caliphate and those who preceded yazid.let us deal with a current happening.in Pakistan in the last 20 to 30 years,over 20,000 Shia have been massacred.why didnt tbaba feel for them? or are they not humans? Sebrenica is happening everyday in Pakistan,carried out by the Wahhabis/salafists.you forget that the Christians are watching when those Sunni fanatics massacre the Shia? we do support the people of Bosnia and sympathize with them.but I was moved to comment because of tbaba's evident hypocrisy.when muslims (sunnis) are killed in Burma,we Shia don't refrain to show our sympathy and support,regardless of sectarian issues or differences.
here we have two threads in this forum highlighting the crimes of the Wahhabis/salafists,that tbaba associates/identifies himself with:
when sympathy and an expression of humanity only become evident when your own is concerned,that is not being a humanist but a fanatic and a sectarianist who disregards humanity and the sanctity of human life, when Allah (swt) says: "he who kills an innocent soul,it is as if he has killed all of humanity". Allah (swt) did not say "he who kills an innocent muslim soul" or "an innocent salafist soul".Islam sanctifies life away from religious divisions and far from the inhumanity the salafist/wahabi terrorists are displaying in Pakistan,and Iraq against the Shia,and in Nigeria against the Christians.
u know, I posted this thread www.nairaland.com/1107676/why-muslims-not-commemorate-husayn which clearly puts the two faced nature of those who like to commemorate the death of Husayn r.a, so many muslims died of injustice far before Husayn r.a was martyed yet zhul fiqars heart does not bleed! He then reduces the death of muslims in bosnia to a terrorist cry for battle, showing how genuine his being a shia is! Christians are here down playing the deaths of muslims and shias are here backing them up very and even labeling it a terrorist cry! Truly need dua this sort of thing is not new it was witness in crusades, the mongol invasion, Iraq, etc
