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Obama Administration Declares War On Catholic Church by kachy: 8:00pm On Mar 11, 2013
The Obama administration has declared war on the Catholic Church and other Christian denominations in the US. The soon to be implemented "Affordable Care Act" has several provisions in it which will adversely affect religious organizations. The US government is requiring religious organizations to comply with this law, some of which violates their religious beliefs.

The law requires all employers to provide health insurance coverage for services such as abortion and birth control. Even if the employer is a religious organization, it will be required to provide these, under penalty of fine and or imprisonment. Before this law was passed, employers were allowed to choose the health care plans for their employees. Churches, Christian Hospitals and schools, chose not to provide these services which were contrary to their beliefs. Employees picked which plan suited their needs best. A woman over 50 need not pay for contraceptive or abortion services as she will probably not use them. No more choosing what is best for us or our families, now the US Government will tell us what health insurance we receive, and what each plan MUST provide.

The law passed by the Obama administration is nothing more than an attack on the Catholic Church and organized religion itself. The Affordable Care Act is an attempt by our government to weaken religious organizations, gain control over one seventh of the US economy, and get more people dependent on the US government for their daily needs. The fact that the Catholic Church is the largest provider of healthcare in America, outside of the US government, means nothing. It does not matter that the Catholic Church operates 600 hospitals and 1400 long term care and other facilities that provides health care regardless of a person's ability to pay. The Catholic Hospitals have operated freely for over 100 years in America, without ever having to compromise their religious beliefs.

This is just the beginning of the war on religious organizations and traditional values from our government. The president has come out and supported homosexual marriage as well. The US government is already pressuring military chaplains to marry homosexuals. Soon they will force Catholic and Christian schools to hire homosexual teachers or face discrimination charges.

It is such a shock to see the US government attacking the Church, while the Russian government defends it. The jailing of the Pussy Riot band for desecrating an Orthodox Church, the recent law passed by the Duma,  prohibiting homosexual propaganda aimed at children. Laws protecting the unborn are being passed, as well as removing government funding for some abortions.  These are positive signs for Russia. Many in the west will decry these acts, but they show that the Russian government is not afraid to defend the Church's position, not because of a religious preference, but because it is the right thing to do for a nation to prosper. It will help put Russia on solid footing for the future.  This is just the opposite of what is going on in the US at the present time.

The US became the richest country in the world because it allowed religious freedom, protected individual and property rights, and its laws and standards of behavior were based on traditional Judeo-Christian values. As a nation, we prospered for over 200 years because of this. In the last 40 years, we have abandoned these principles and look where we are now. We borrow hundreds of billions of dollars each year from many countries just to pay our expenses. Our nation is bankrupt financially and morally.  No nation on this earth was capable of destroying us militarily, so we have set out to destroy ourselves through moral decay, or as the late Senator Daniel Moynihan called it "Defining Deviancy Down".

When I was a young boy, we were taught in the Catholic Church to pray for the conversion of Russia from Communism. With the US government attacking our churches and religious organizations, maybe we should start asking the Russian people to pray for the conversion of America.

By Michael P Gardner / Pravda

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Re: Obama Administration Declares War On Catholic Church by kaptiny(m): 8:38pm On Mar 11, 2013
May God help America to overcome her daft government... Obama Ά̲̣̣̣̥и̲̮̣̥̅̊đ his cabinet are all evil perpetrators.
Re: Obama Administration Declares War On Catholic Church by frodobee: 9:01pm On Mar 11, 2013
The strength of a chain lies in the weakest link. Our strength; our weakness. One statement in the American 'declaration' which i fancy alot, happens to be the loci for this irascible moral depravity, ' in the pursuit of happiness...'. Hey, now some folks pursuit of happiness are aided to the detriment of others.
Re: Obama Administration Declares War On Catholic Church by FXKing2012(m): 9:25pm On Mar 11, 2013
We've said it several times that Obama is an agent of the devil preparing the way for the antichrist. He's in fact the forerunner of the antichrist.
Re: Obama Administration Declares War On Catholic Church by Dibiachukwu: 1:08am On Mar 12, 2013
Both obama and the catholic church are evil conniving enterprises.
Re: Obama Administration Declares War On Catholic Church by Ngwakwe: 1:39am On Mar 12, 2013
But Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi are staunch Catholics.

If President Obama is doing something wrong, he is definitely supported by his lieutenants.

Catholic Church should do well and excommunicate Biden and Pelosi as a warning against apostacy

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Re: Obama Administration Declares War On Catholic Church by redsun(m): 1:49am On Mar 12, 2013
Catholic church days are numbered,it relevance these days only remains among the very ignorant,the third wordleans. Soon they will decipher the logic and free them selves from the bondage of dogmas that organized religion is all about. Then they stop suffering and smiling.
Re: Obama Administration Declares War On Catholic Church by AustineE1: 2:56am On Mar 12, 2013
redsun: Catholic church days are numbered,it relevance these days only remains among the very ignorant,the third wordleans. Soon they will decipher the logic and free them selves from the bondage of dogmas that organized religion is all about. Then they stop suffering and smiling.
you are so quick to comment on any topic that has to do with christianity and morality,your case is so pathetic,you ve lost it entirely,you ve no sense of morality and i guess you are one of those who ve long sold their conscience,if at all you ever had one.You stigmatize christians and call them all sort of names,is either you advocate for homosexualism(sodomy),abortion,atheism and all forms of moral decadency and always relating it to intellectual advancement on the strength of free-will!People like you ve invented all kinds of wickedness against the catholic church because of its insistence on sticking with the truth and the true biblical standard!God promised peter in the bible during the foundation of the church,that 'the gate of hell,shall never prevail over the church'!whatever battle you and your cohorts raise against the church,will be in futility,as Gods words supersedes every other power and authority! though i always have this feelings that you are so piteous and i pray that they good lord comes to you,at your point of needs,so that you can testify to his name!
Re: Obama Administration Declares War On Catholic Church by redsun(m): 3:33am On Mar 12, 2013
Austine.E:

you are so quick to comment on any topic that has to do with christianity and morality,your case is so pathetic,you ve lost it entirely,you ve no sense of morality and i guess you are one of those who ve long sold their conscience,if at all you ever had one.You stigmatize christians and call them all sort of names,is either you advocate for oohomosexualism(sodomy),abortion,atheism and all forms of moral decadency and always relating it to intellectual advancement on the strength of free-will!People like you ve invented all kinds of wickedness against the catholic church because of its insistence on sticking with the truth and tihe true biblical standard!God promised peter in the bible during the foundation of the church,that 'the gate of hell,shall never prevail over the church'!whatever battle you and your cohorts raise against the church,will be in futility,as Gods words supersedes every other power and authority! though i always have this feelings that you are so piteous and i pray that they good lord comes to you,at your point of needs,so that you can testify to his name!

Catholism is the agent of imperialism and the brain washing of the down trodden. Set up by the imperial Rome when they realised the futility of blood letting and pillaging does not kill the people's spirit intoto. They found out it is a more subtle and lasting way of conquering the natives without undue violence and you happens to be one of the victims,even in the 21st century.

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Re: Obama Administration Declares War On Catholic Church by Nobody: 7:44am On Mar 12, 2013
Obama is destroying the future chances of Black-Americans to aspire to top political positions.
Re: Obama Administration Declares War On Catholic Church by AustineE1: 8:37am On Mar 12, 2013
redsun:

Catholism is the agent of imperialism and the brain washing of the down trodden. Set up by the imperial Rome when they realised the futility of blood letting and pillaging does not kill the people's spirit intoto. They found out it is a more subtle and lasting way of conquering the natives without undue violence and you happens to be one of the victims,even in the 21st century.
i wld rather be a 'victim of catholism',than held in the shackles of darkness and grave moral decadence(sodomy)built on western hypnoticism and lost of all norms and values of human existence and even as it is also against all African traditional beliefs.
Re: Obama Administration Declares War On Catholic Church by jaso1(m): 8:58am On Mar 12, 2013
Many of you whom oppose this policy by Obama have Nigeria syndrome of religion foolishness that have contributed wrongly into our Nation.
Obama is not foolish like many of your africa leaders, he knows what it required to govern people effectively. Not your stupid leader who politicise everything at the detriment of your life. foolish people.
Re: Obama Administration Declares War On Catholic Church by Tolexander: 9:04am On Mar 12, 2013
The best thing for democracy is to allow any innovations, health treatment to be chosen by one's preference which is base on belief and mentality.

US seems to have being breeding a loath for catholicism since the arrival of english to the new world. Before John Fitzgerald Kennedy could win the election in 1960 as the first and only catholic then, he had to undergo additional stress of convincing them of his faith.

See no reasons why catholics will be comparing the the USA administration with Russian administration cos of the rivalry which hasn't finally ended.
Re: Obama Administration Declares War On Catholic Church by mastro: 9:35am On Mar 12, 2013
hmm, explain to me again why an employer should have the right to determine how their employees live.

I'm waiting, or are you suggesting that because my employer doesn't like coffee I'm not allowed coffee either?

Whose beliefs and morals should be uppermost, the employers or the employees?

If you don't want to use birth control then don't it should be the individuals choice, by the way 98% of Catholics use birth control http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/13/us-contraceptives-religion-idUSTRE73C7W020110413

If you as individuals believe that your every action should be in strict accordance with your religious beliefs then fine, but what gives you the right to impose that on others?
Re: Obama Administration Declares War On Catholic Church by Omen100(m): 12:27pm On Mar 12, 2013
careytommy: Obama is destroying the future chances of Black-Americans to aspire to top political positions.






Same way, jonathan has destroyed the future chances of southerners & minorities to aspire to top most political positions.

Re: Obama Administration Declares War On Catholic Church by TayoD1(m): 4:06pm On Mar 12, 2013
@Mastro,

hmm, explain to me again why an employer should have the right to determine how their employees live.
No employer has the right to determine how an employee lives. However, every potential employee must live by the guiding principles of his/her employer. If you don't like the Catholic Church's stance on your ability to kill babies willy nilly, then there is no point to seek employment with the Catholic Church. It is a relationship based on the exercise of free will by both the employer and the employee. If you are no longer compatible, one or both parties should be able to terminate the relationship without fear of victimization by the government.

And just as an aside, do you believe the government has the right to tell people or organizations how to live and conduct their business?

I'm waiting, or are you suggesting that because my employer doesn't like coffee I'm not allowed coffee either?
Not at all. You can drink coffee at your own time and in your own private home. As long as you are in the office and paid for your time, you will live by the office rules, or have your employment terminated. Many offices do not allow smoking within their premises. That doesn't mean you can't go outside or smoke at your own time and expense. Same way the Catholic Church is not forcing baby-killers from killing babies. All they are saying is that they will not pay for the murders.

Whose beliefs and morals should be uppermost, the employers or the employees?
Have you ever heard of a code of conduct? Are there as many code of conducts as you have employees or just one provided by the employer?

If you don't want to use birth control then don't it should be the individuals choice, by the way 98% of Catholics use birth control http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/13/us-contraceptives-religion-idUSTRE73C7W020110413
And if you want to use birth control and kill infants please do so. Just don't expect someone else to subsidize that activity for you, especially when they find it morally reprehensible.

If you as individuals believe that your every action should be in strict accordance with your religious beliefs then fine, but what gives you the right to impose that on others?
Again you get it all wrong. The Catholic Church is not saying you can't kill as many babies as you want. What they are saying is that they will not pay for you to do so. What moral code gives you the right to compel others to pay for your personal activities?

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