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Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by Olanlere11: 11:21am On Mar 13, 2013
The reported pardon granted to some Nigerians appear to be generating mixed reactions. While some are condemning the move, others are hailing the Council of state. The anti pardon proponents argue that Alami who incidentally was a beneficiary should not have been granted pardon, against the backdrop of the ongoing fight against corruption. They also query the process solely becos he is from Bayelsa state and a former boss of Gej. Nigerians! why politicise such political exercise? Is he not qualified to be pardoned? Most people have not even taken time to study how this thing works. They've not asked to know those that constitute the council of state. Well for the benefit of doubt, let's say A pardon is defined in criminal law as an official act of forgiving a crime. A pardon may be granted under the executive powers of a governor or the President. By granting a convicted person a pardon, the conviction is eradicated from the records, the person is freed from further punishments and penalties, and may not be retried for the same offense.
A pardon may be granted to persons for such reasons as advanced age, acts proving rehabilitation, unfairness of trial proceedings, doubts about guilt of the convicted person, or terminal illness. It is usually based upon a notion of undeserved punishment. A pardon does not indicate that the person pardoned is not guilty, but that they are forgiven and no longer deserving of punishment.
Now, who are those responsible for granting pardon? The Nigerian constitutions says the council of state. Who are the council of state members? We have, present and former heads of state, vice president, attorney general, Chief Justice of the federation and all governors.
Before a person is considered for pardon, he is expected to apply formerly to the council of state, and the council will deliberate on the issue. Most times, his actions, behaviors and contributions to national growth, peace, law and order are cardinal prerequisite for pardon. If these conditions are met, then the council will unanimously okay the pardon for such individual.
Did Alami meet these conditions? THE ANSWER IS YES. HE APPLIED, HE HAS BEEN MONITORED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS, HE HAS SHOWN REMORSE, HE IS CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN DEVELOPMENTAL PROJECTS IN THE NIGER DELTA. HE PARTICIPATED IMMENSELY IN THE EFFORT TO RESETTLE FLOOD VICTIMS, HE IS CURRENTLY PREACHING AGAINST MILITANCY, OIL THEFT AND PIRACY IN THE REGION. HABA WHY SHOULD HE NOT BE CONSIDERED.
LASTLY, NIGERIANS CAN'T FAULT THE PROCESS THAT LED TO HIS PARDON, THIS IS BECOS PERSONALITIES LIKE GOWON, ATIKU, IBB, BUHARI, OSHIOMOLE, FASHOLA, BABANGIDA ALIYU, OBASANJO, SHAGARI, CJN, AREGBESOLA, EKWUEME AND OTHERS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED IT. LET'S KNOW THIS, GEJ DIDN'T GRANT THEM PARDON, THE COUNCIL DID.
Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by Ak47bullet: 12:15pm On Mar 13, 2013
Thanks for educating us.
Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by Olanlere11: 12:19pm On Mar 13, 2013
If issues are not cleared or correctly presented, people could misrepresent facts just to hoodwink unsuspecting Nigerians
Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by jmaine: 12:34pm On Mar 13, 2013
HE IS CURRENTLY PREACHING AGAINST MILITANCY, OIL THEFT AND PIRACY IN THE REGION

The same Alams who suggested that oil bunkering be made legal . . . . We know such proclamation and belief negates against the need to fight oil theft in the region . . .


This pardon, no matter how sugar coated is a sad episode . . .

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Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by Olanlere11: 4:02pm On Mar 13, 2013
He only said people should prevail on GEJ to grant them license. With license, their activities can't be termed illegal. His allegation that the foreigners are lifting our oil was brushed aside. You see?
Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by Demdem(m): 4:16pm On Mar 13, 2013
Olanlere11: He only said people should prevail on GEJ to grant them license. With license, their activities can't be termed illegal. His allegation that the foreigners are lifting our oil was brushed aside. You see?

What do u mean by insider account? Are u among those that made this nasty decision. I think it should be termed ur opinion.
Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by Nobody: 4:16pm On Mar 13, 2013
Lesson: no matter how perfectly a wound heals, the scar will still remain. Once upon a time Alams was for oil bunkering, even when he had turned a new leaf, that singular act is still hunting him. Morale: Never go against your motherland.
Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by Nobody: 4:30pm On Mar 13, 2013
Lesson: no matter how perfectly a wound heals, the scar will still remain. Once upon a time Alams was for oil bunkering, even when he had turned a new leaf, that singular act is still hunting him. Morale: Never go against your motherland...
Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by Nobody: 4:46pm On Mar 13, 2013
@OP,

Your post up there is laced with barefaced lies, and you know it.

Alamieyeseigha is neither contrite nor rehabilitated, fact!

That he was able to secure a presidential pardon at this time simply goes to show how much of a stranglehold he still maintains over his former deputy.

Anyone interested in the truth should recognise that what transpired yesterday was the cashing in of cheques by a Godfather(Alamieyeseigha) who knows precisely where all the bodies are buried.

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Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by Sealeddeal(m): 4:56pm On Mar 13, 2013
Thanks Op for making this known. I thinks its now very clear that Alamesiyia was given a well deserved pardon.
Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by Nobody: 5:00pm On Mar 13, 2013
Olanlere11: The reported pardon granted to some Nigerians appear to be generating mixed reactions. While some are condemning the move, others are hailing the Council of state. The anti pardon proponents argue that Alami who incidentally was a beneficiary should not have been granted pardon, against the backdrop of the ongoing fight against corruption. They also query the process solely becos he is from Bayelsa state and a former boss of Gej. Nigerians! why politicise such political exercise? Is he not qualified to be pardoned? Most people have not even taken time to study how this thing works. They've not asked to know those that constitute the council of state. Well for the benefit of doubt, let's say A pardon is defined in criminal law as an official act of forgiving a crime. A pardon may be granted under the executive powers of a governor or the President. By granting a convicted person a pardon, the conviction is eradicated from the records, the person is freed from further punishments and penalties, and may not be retried for the same offense.
A pardon may be granted to persons for such reasons as advanced age, acts proving rehabilitation, unfairness of trial proceedings, doubts about guilt of the convicted person, or terminal illness. It is usually based upon a notion of undeserved punishment. A pardon does not indicate that the person pardoned is not guilty, but that they are forgiven and no longer deserving of punishment.
Now, who are those responsible for granting pardon? The Nigerian constitutions says the council of state. Who are the council of state members? We have, present and former heads of state, vice president, attorney general, Chief Justice of the federation and all governors.
Before a person is considered for pardon, he is expected to apply formerly to the council of state, and the council will deliberate on the issue. Most times, his actions, behaviors and contributions to national growth, peace, law and order are cardinal prerequisite for pardon. If these conditions are met, then the council will unanimously okay the pardon for such individual.
Did Alami meet these conditions? THE ANSWER IS YES. HE APPLIED, HE HAS BEEN MONITORED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS, HE HAS SHOWN REMORSE, HE IS CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN DEVELOPMENTAL PROJECTS IN THE NIGER DELTA. HE PARTICIPATED IMMENSELY IN THE EFFORT TO RESETTLE FLOOD VICTIMS, HE IS CURRENTLY PREACHING AGAINST MILITANCY, OIL THEFT AND PIRACY IN THE REGION. HABA WHY SHOULD HE NOT BE CONSIDERED.
LASTLY, NIGERIANS CAN'T FAULT THE PROCESS THAT LED TO HIS PARDON, THIS IS BECOS PERSONALITIES LIKE GOWON, ATIKU, IBB, BUHARI, OSHIOMOLE, FASHOLA, BABANGIDA ALIYU, OBASANJO, SHAGARI, CJN, AREGBESOLA, EKWUEME AND OTHERS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED IT. LET'S KNOW THIS, GEJ DIDN'T GRANT THEM PARDON, THE COUNCIL DID.
So you don't know what a paragraph is?
Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by bappahman: 5:14pm On Mar 13, 2013
Olanlere11: The reported pardon granted to some Nigerians appear to be generating mixed reactions. While some are condemning the move, others are hailing the Council of state. The anti pardon proponents argue that Alami who incidentally was a beneficiary should not have been granted pardon, against the backdrop of the ongoing fight against corruption. They also query the process solely becos he is from Bayelsa state and a former boss of Gej. Nigerians! why politicise such political exercise? Is he not qualified to be pardoned? Most people have not even taken time to study how this thing works. They've not asked to know those that constitute the council of state. Well for the benefit of doubt, let's say A pardon is defined in criminal law as an official act of forgiving a crime. A pardon may be granted under the executive powers of a governor or the President. By granting a convicted person a pardon, the conviction is eradicated from the records, the person is freed from further punishments and penalties, and may not be retried for the same offense.
A pardon may be granted to persons for such reasons as advanced age, acts proving rehabilitation, unfairness of trial proceedings, doubts about guilt of the convicted person, or terminal illness. It is usually based upon a notion of undeserved punishment. A pardon does not indicate that the person pardoned is not guilty, but that they are forgiven and no longer deserving of punishment.
Now, who are those responsible for granting pardon? The Nigerian constitutions says the council of state. Who are the council of state members? We have, present and former heads of state, vice president, attorney general, Chief Justice of the federation and all governors.
Before a person is considered for pardon, he is expected to apply formerly to the council of state, and the council will deliberate on the issue. Most times, his actions, behaviors and contributions to national growth, peace, law and order are cardinal prerequisite for pardon. If these conditions are met, then the council will unanimously okay the pardon for such individual.
Did Alami meet these conditions? THE ANSWER IS YES. HE APPLIED, HE HAS BEEN MONITORED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS, HE HAS SHOWN REMORSE, HE IS CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN DEVELOPMENTAL PROJECTS IN THE NIGER DELTA. HE PARTICIPATED IMMENSELY IN THE EFFORT TO RESETTLE FLOOD VICTIMS, HE IS CURRENTLY PREACHING AGAINST MILITANCY, OIL THEFT AND PIRACY IN THE REGION. HABA WHY SHOULD HE NOT BE CONSIDERED.
LASTLY, NIGERIANS CAN'T FAULT THE PROCESS THAT LED TO HIS PARDON, THIS IS BECOS PERSONALITIES LIKE GOWON, ATIKU, IBB, BUHARI, OSHIOMOLE, FASHOLA, BABANGIDA ALIYU, OBASANJO, SHAGARI, CJN, AREGBESOLA, EKWUEME AND OTHERS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED IT. LET'S KNOW THIS, GEJ DIDN'T GRANT THEM PARDON, THE COUNCIL DID.
misinformation...only 3 former head of states attended...gowon,shagari and shonekan....IBB, Buhari,Abdussalam and OBJ didn't attend...so take note

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Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by seunfly: 7:01pm On Mar 13, 2013
Olanlere11:
1) Nigerians! why politicise such political exercise?
2) Is he not qualified to be pardoned
3) A pardon may be granted to persons for such reasons as advanced age, acts proving rehabilitation, unfairness of trial proceedings, doubts about guilt of the convicted person, or terminal illness.
4) no longer deserving of punishment.
5) Before a person is considered for pardon, he is expected to apply formerly to the council of state, and the council will deliberate on the issue.
6) Most times, his actions, behaviors and contributions to national growth, peace, law and order are cardinal prerequisite for pardon.

7) Did Alami meet these conditions?
cool THE ANSWER IS YES. HE APPLIED, HE HAS BEEN MONITORED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS, HE HAS SHOWN REMORSE, HE IS CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN DEVELOPMENTAL PROJECTS IN THE NIGER DELTA. HE PARTICIPATED IMMENSELY IN THE EFFORT TO RESETTLE FLOOD VICTIMS, HE IS CURRENTLY PREACHING AGAINST MILITANCY, OIL THEFT AND PIRACY IN THE REGION. HABA WHY SHOULD HE NOT BE CONSIDERED.
LASTLY, NIGERIANS CAN'T FAULT THE PROCESS THAT LED TO HIS PARDON, THIS IS BECOS PERSONALITIES LIKE GOWON, ATIKU, IBB, BUHARI, OSHIOMOLE, FASHOLA, BABANGIDA ALIYU, OBASANJO, SHAGARI, CJN, AREGBESOLA, EKWUEME AND OTHERS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED IT. LET'S KNOW THIS, GEJ DIDN'T GRANT THEM PARDON, THE COUNCIL DID.
Reading all this want to make my head explode and i ask my self are u a Nigerian?
Do u live in Nigeria?
Do u have feelings for peaple who suffer for every bad decision our leaders make?
What are u benefiting 4rm suporting every wrong decision they take that is worth the resultant effect on us all?
I have come to conclution that all of u political jobbers(PDP, APC and other political association) who sing high praises to every bad and killer decisions our leaders are making today will surely reap from it tomorow.
You may think u are immuned from the resultant effect but directly or indirectly it will affect u too.
So keep it up and continue, we shall all suffer together.

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Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by seunfly: 7:02pm On Mar 13, 2013
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Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by akaOpene(m): 8:45pm On Mar 13, 2013
Don't you know that Nigerians are now wiser?Who are you trying to hoodwick with the rubbish you posted above in the name of being an insider/An insider who could not tell those ex presidents that attended and those that did not attend.
I pity people like the OP because they are the reason why their children will suffer the same way they are suffering because they have bargained Nigeria and their children's future away.

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Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by AWONEYAN(m): 9:21pm On Mar 13, 2013
Okupe is at work ...u claimed to b an insider,u can not even
Say d exact numbers of ex president that attended the meeting.
Continuing mortgagging the future of your unborn children. Because
u were given a laptop. Okupe and Abati have made their own loot.
I only pity you. Tafa balogun,anini,sunday osubo,shina rambo.
Cecelia ibru,also deserve a state pardon...mt chew
Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by sammyzacks(m): 9:31pm On Mar 13, 2013
All of you commenting here need pardon from God for all the terrible sins you keep committing everyday day. Pardon doesn't say you never committed the offence. It simply says you are forgiven. What is your problem with that? It's called mercy, you must not merit it.
Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by Nobody: 9:45pm On Mar 13, 2013
@OP:

LASTLY, NIGERIANS CAN'T FAULT THE PROCESS THAT LED TO HIS PARDON, THIS IS BECOS PERSONALITIES LIKE GOWON, ATIKU, IBB, BUHARI, OSHIOMOLE, FASHOLA, BABANGIDA ALIYU, OBASANJO, SHAGARI, CJN, AREGBESOLA, EKWUEME AND OTHERS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED IT. LET'S KNOW THIS, GEJ DIDN'T GRANT THEM PARDON, THE COUNCIL DID.

Dude, stop deceiving ppl jare. Among those past leaders you mentioned, only Shonekan, Gowon, and Shagari were in attendance. Besides, it doesnt matter who where there, Jona has his hands written all over this. Nigerians are no fools.

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Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by PrettyRita(f): 6:21am On Mar 14, 2013
Its Unfortunate that peoople are reacting like this. Perhaps we no longer remember the that tacit concent applies. Before Council of state meettings are held, notifications are issued and agenda circulated. This is to give the mmembers ample opportunity to study issues and ccoome up with a well thought out ideas. That some were not present doesn't mean they are against the pardon. They should have been there to challenge it. Often times, members that would be unavoidable absent often communicate their position or support in advance resolution of the members. Let's not deceive ourselves, they all concented. Gej didn't pardon them the council did
Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by zibe(m): 7:44am On Mar 14, 2013
sammyzacks: All of you commenting here need pardon from God for all the terrible sins you keep committing everyday day. Pardon doesn't say you never committed the offence. It simply says you are forgiven. What is your problem with that? It's called mercy, you must not merit it.

In that case, every prisoner in the country should be pardoned. This will make it fair, since everyone can turn a new leaf, or don't you think so?
Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by eggheaders(m): 7:57am On Mar 14, 2013
Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by Olanlere11: 10:18am On Mar 14, 2013
eGuerrilla: @OP,

Your post up there is laced with barefaced lies, and you know it.

Alamieyeseigha is neither contrite nor rehabilitated, fact!

That he was able to secure a presidential pardon at this time simply goes to show how much of a stranglehold he still maintains over his former deputy.

Anyone interested in the truth should recognise that what transpired yesterday was the cashing in of cheques by a Godfather(Alamieyeseigha) who knows precisely where all the bodies are buried.
GEJ didn't unilaterally grant them pardon. The decision was a product of a clearly thought exercise.
Can we simply say that all opposition Governors that attended the NCS were fool? Or could easily be manipulated by Gej? Are they members of PDP?
Why haven't they condemned the pardon? Why didn't they disagree with the move? Why was the call for pardon not confronted with stiff opposition?
People must know how this thing works. They saw the need to grant them pardon, it should remain so. GEJ didn't, NCS did.
Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by sweetgala(m): 10:42am On Mar 14, 2013
See as fellow Nigerians the victims of corruption are defending this outrageous decision.
Same thing happened when the fuel subsidy protests were ongoing last year when solidarity in denouncing the action.
What is bad is bad and can never be named good due to ethnic sentiments.
Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by Nobody: 10:57am On Mar 14, 2013
Olanlere11:
GEJ didn't unilaterally grant them pardon. The decision was a product of a clearly thought exercise.
Can we simply say that all opposition Governors that attended the NCS were fool? Or could easily be manipulated by Gej? Are they members of PDP?
Why haven't they condemned the pardon? Why didn't they disagree with the move? Why was the call for pardon not confronted with stiff opposition?
People must know how this thing works. They saw the need to grant them pardon, it should remain so. GEJ didn't, NCS did.

The council of state only has an advisory role, a fact that could not possibly have escaped even sycophant like you.

No amount of spin would turn mutton into lamb, so do yourself a favour and quit while the going is good.
Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by Nobody: 11:16am On Mar 14, 2013
Olanlere11: Most times, his actions, behaviors and contributions to national growth, peace, law and order are cardinal prerequisite for pardon. If these conditions are met, then the council will unanimously okay the pardon for such individual.
Did Alami meet these conditions? THE ANSWER IS YES. HE APPLIED, HE HAS BEEN MONITORED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS, HE HAS SHOWN REMORSE, HE IS CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN DEVELOPMENTAL PROJECTS IN THE NIGER DELTA. HE PARTICIPATED IMMENSELY IN THE EFFORT TO RESETTLE FLOOD VICTIMS, HE IS CURRENTLY PREACHING AGAINST MILITANCY, OIL THEFT AND PIRACY IN THE REGION.

1. Did he return ALL that he stole, as evidence of having "repented"?

2. When did the "monitoring" take place and who exactly conducted the monitoring?

3. List five "developmental projects" he has undertaken.
Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by Idokojimmy: 11:42am On Mar 14, 2013
HNosegbe:

1. Did he return ALL that he stole, as evidence of having "repented"?

2. When did the "monitoring" take place and who exactly conducted the monitoring?

3. List five "developmental projects" he has undertaken.
For your information, in Alams case, there was a plea bargain. Also, some properties were ceased and bank account emptied.
If the Ijaws agree that he is instrumental to growth, development and the peaceful coexistence of the people why are we complaining?
Re: Insider Account of the presidential Pardon by HammedSodiqq: 5:13pm On Mar 14, 2013
God bless GEJ

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