ToyinDipo:

You are scoring lot of own goals here, first Em is the last person that is song will be beat driven, may u don't listen to his songs. Jay and Ye are the ones with beat driven songs.
Ask any real Hip-hop fan what Em and Jay rhyme abt, and they would tell you Em sings abt his personal life that ppl can relate to, while Jay only sings abt his wealth.
Those line "So we sing for these kids who don't av a thing....", that u called "ordinary", I chose them to tell you what Em's songs are abt often. His songs are abt his life; living under a single parent and who unfortunately is an addict, his own personal struggles dealing with drugs, his problems raising a family at a young age with no money, his problems leading to attempted suicide, domestic violence...... This are things happening to ppl and ppl can relate to them. JayZ on the other hand never discusses such things, except rapping on stuffs he had not how he made it, even though he was an hustler lyk you always try to point out. Anyway most black ppl are hustlers. That's why he was trying hard on renegade to rebuff the general notion that he raps only about materials and money. FYI, Eminem's lines that even Jay felt jittery about were lyk that because he was trying to diss ppl that thought he was evil and atheist because of his shocking lyrics. " .... you forking do gooders to bad you couldn't do good in marriage"


lol, that was funny. I didn't copy the whole song, I only picked some of the heavy shots from that song and tried to explain them.
Actually the song was diss-packed, with all round hitting, from emotion to career, to his struggles, to his luck with b1tches, even to his looks.... The song was too loaded, that's why you thoght I copied everything.
Read that post again with an unbiased mind, then you would see how heavy hitting the song was, it was not ranked as the number 4 diss song of all tym for nothing.
BTW, u are the first person I would ever hear saying it's overrated.

baslone: Over rated Bawo?

The most successful artiste in hip hop history


Things just ain't the same for gangsters
But I'm a little too famous to shoot these pranksters
All of these rap singers claimin they bangers
Doin all sorts of twisted shit with they fingers
Disrespectin the game, no home trainin or manners
I was doin this shit when you was shittin Pampers
I was movin them grams 'fore you, knew what a hand that hand was
Duckin the vans, radars, the scanners
'Fore you knew what hard white to tame was
I was hittin the turnpike, aight with the bammers
I was nice with my hands, cuss aight with them hammers
I was prickin my finger 'fore you knew what a Fam was
I had it laid out 'fore you knew what a plan was
Three hundred mill' later, now you understand us
Y'all ain't see us comin through Vegas
You ever seen so much cham' bust in one night
Grand bleeped up one fight
I was on the Peter Pan bus
You was Peter Pan up in your room, y'all fuckin with whom?
Allowed me to be taught
You cowards is just now learnin the shit that we talk
You niggaz ain't know about a Robb Report
Bout a high speed Porsche, i.e.
You niggaz ain't know how to floss 'til I came through the door
like "Eric B. for Pres," respect me in this BITCH!
You can't disrespect us cause you got a little check cut
You was suckin for so long, fuckin your little neck up
Now you too big for your britches, you got a few little bitches
You think you Hugh Hefner, you just ridiculous
I blew breath for you midgets, I gave life to the game
It's only right I got the right to be king
Niggaz that got life really like what I sing
Cause they know is he really like, niggaz feel my pain
Know the shit I DON'T write be the illest shit that's ever been recited
in the game word to the hyphen in my NAME!
J, A, Y, DASH, Hoffa
The past present nigga the future, proper
The holy trinity of hip-hop is us
We give, Dre his props BUT that's where it stops
It's the ROC

[Jay-Z]

Disrespectin the game, no home trainin or manners
I was doin this poo when you was shittin Pampers
I was movin them grams 'fore you, knew what a hand that hand was
Duckin the vans, radars, the scanners
'Fore you knew what hard white to tame was
I was hittin the turnpike, aight with the bammers
I was nice with my hands, cuss aight with them hammers
I was prickin my finger 'fore you knew what a Fam was
I had it laid out 'fore you knew what a plan was
Three hundred mill' later, now you understand us

Please thank you for this, take one Ace of Spades for my head there.

Yet they say it is all money, Cars, Ho.es.

thegoodjoehunt:


That is a pure lie. The same Jay-Z that was dragged to the court by the feds for dealing drugs. So please what made Ether so thick. Can you give me your reasons?[/color]

laykhorn:
Comparing Jay to Drake when it comes to Hood rap is non-chalance or a blatant sarcacism. Drake's music dwells in it while Jay is always about the money, cars houses and wealth generally. Even Rowzay who s always about money talks hood than Jay Z. check the Ross's rap in the song you write up here

baslone:

Where did you hear this from?

Jay-z's only run up with the law was when he pleaded guilty to stabbing stabbing a record executive for bootlegging his records and was sentenced on probation.

He never had any fed issue when he was dealing crack.

Honestly my Bad, I always thought the whole Jigga trial issue was drug related. Thanks for the info.

As for Nas, He can't even talk to that street hustlin' level. He even made a track called looking out of my project window.

Even Jay-Z's homie De Haven who has beef with Jay, tries to play down Jay's drug past. Saying he was an innocent bystander that got a few dimes.

To me that is a whole lot of experience than a Rick Ross who used to be an ex-prison warden coming out to say he knows the real Noreaga.

Nas no experience, no life and people keep sleeping with his baby mamas. Jay-Z, Iverson, even Infra-red.

laylow001: Nobody else has as much of a combination of lyrics, flow, years of relevance, consistent discography, classics albums (3; Blueprint, The Black Album, and Reasonable Doubt) and influence as Jay Z does.I know people here think he's "not a good rapper"and that some irrelevant underground MC´s are better than him, but that's because they don't get what he's spitting and don't seem to understand you can't be the greatest if you're irrelevant in real life.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHjgzA9YdGI

dopesidez:
you too sabi, i tell ya most jay-z haters are people who cant understand why jay-z has bleeped aaliyah, charlie baltimore,foxy brown, rihanna, rita ora, mariah carey and is married to beyonce and is friends with obama and has loads of money, haters gonna hate, you could learn something from jigga man if you stop the hate.

thegoodjoehunt:



I believe Ether is so overrated. What was so special about Ether. The only punchlines I could hold were,

FOXY GOT YOU HOT CUS YOU KEPT YOUR FACE IN HER P.U.SS

nothing else.

Please Ether is so overrated.

Can anyone prove otherwise.



By the way what in Ether was hotter than

Had a spark when you started but now you're just garbage
Fell from top ten to not mentioned at all
to your bodyguard's "Oochie Wally" verse better than yours
Matter fact you had the worst flow on the whole fuckin song

dopesidez:


am a real jigga man fan but ether was too hot, check this out.

With your hands out for my money, man, how much can I take
When these streets keep callin', heard it when I was sleep
That this Gay-Z and Cockafella Records wanted beef
Started cockin' up my weapon, slowly loadin' up this ammo
To explode it on a camel and his soldiers
I can handle this for dolo....


And now I smile like a proud dad, watchin' his only son that made it
You seem to be only concerned with dissing women
Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly
Well life is harsh; hug me, don't reject me
Or make records to disrespect me, blatant or indirectly


Foxy got you hot cause you kept your face in her puss
What you think, you getting girls now cause of your looks
Ne-gro please
You no mustache having, with whiskers like a rat
Compared to Beans you wack
And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame
You Bottom, went from Jaz to hanging with Kane, to Irv, to Big
And Eminem murdered you on your own poo
You a Joystick-riding gay, you love the attention
Queens niggas run you niggas, ask Russell Simmons

Let us be honest. Most of the diss here is like saying " with your four corner head like Cabin biscuit ".
It doesn't really touch. By the way those are the best lines from the track and nothin' carried a real punch.

Eminem murde.ring Jay is clearly debatable.
Foxy helping Jay get hot by doing a track with him, can't be a diss,
how can Nas be a proud dad, when he refused to do a track with Jay,
taking blame for his man's action, that is loyalty'
Him hanging with Kane, Irv etc to grow as an artist, can't be a diss.



Look through the lines you posted. Honestly, does anything there carry a punch like Nas scribbling his life on a notepad?


Honestly, Ether is so overrated and Dj's and VJ's envious of Jay made it look as if Ether was the sh.it but Ether is just very average. I am yet to be proven otherwise.


For instance, Young Jeezy dissin' Gucci Mane that Gucci raps about drug money but all the money he got is mixtapes and show money. While him (Jeezy), had a 80,000 dollars watch before he started rapping. That carried a punch.

dopesidez:
what is michelle talented in?

The editor of the rolling stones magazine once said that the beef was made up to increase the sales of their albums.

Jay-Z seemed more focused on making a track that sounded good rather than killing Nas. Nas just went in and probably made the hardest diss track of all time.

baslonse:

rokiatu:

Well I think Jay Z got 100 problems now.

IIIIxRoyalxIIII: My Post wasn't about solely Hip Hop

Hip Hop is Ravaged Right Now....

The Top Artist are Children with Corny Tattoos who struggle with pronunciation and basic English

Jay and B are the top "Hip Hop" Power Couple by default....solely because of Her.

Hell....if 2chains or Rick Ross married Adele Tomorrow they would take over the lead LoL

dopesidez:
you too sabi, i tell ya most jay-z haters are people who cant understand why jay-z has bleeped aaliyah, charlie baltimore,foxy brown, rihanna, rita ora, mariah carey and is married to beyonce and is friends with obama and has loads of money, haters gonna hate, you could learn something from jigga man if you stop the hate.

jadakiss213: Drake are u fo' real?? u obviously dont know anything about Hip Hop.or ure just a kid who grew up listening to dem Drake,Nicki Minaj and co.

thegoodjoehunt:

I can't argue with you about Em but I rate him second because his flows doesn't affect the life of a young kid facing the struggles of life. Talking about Pills, Rap.ing his mom, Mur.dering his wife etc. I can't rate that as rhymes of the greatest rapper of all time.

thegoodjoehunt:


Do you have lines from Drake and Ross to back up your claims? I ain't talking of imaginary rhymes. How can Drake dwell in the hood, when he never lived in the hood? So a guy who hasn't lived in the hood can rap for fellows and advice the hood people how to find their way through the maze of life they were dropped into.

[Jay-Z]

I don't care what you do for stacks
I know the world glued you back to the wall
You gotta brawl to that
I been through that, been shot at shoot back

How you guys say Jay-Z is all Money, Cars, Ho.es beats me.

IIIIxRoyalxIIII: Ahh Damn, I see we have an Influx of some Filthy Marcys Projects Niqqahs Invading Nairaland Today

Ayo Fam, What Floor you Live On?



Ether was slightly OverRated, Granted, ill give you that. Had Takeover Came after Ether, It would have Ethered, Ether.

Regardless though, Prime Marshall and Prime Nas Over the Jigga Man.

Also, i don't see how you can toss aside religious references and vague wordplay of worship, and make the claim that "Street Hustling" Supersedes Such.

I guess it's a Matter of Taste.

laykhorn:
I wouldnt start dropping lines of Drake's songs here because I'm a lot busy than you may want to think. Apologies for dropping this arg
Where did Drake leave? Yiiiyyyy!!

IIIIxRoyalxIIII:

Jay's Rhymes are Subpar,

He's not even as good of a Lyricist and Big,Rakim,or Pac...Less Lone Marshall

And You speak of how when Marshall Deviates from speaking of His Inner Insanities that His Elite Rhymez Decline

For one, that isn't true

and Secondly....When Shawn Deviates from rhyming about selling Cokke , Guns, and Women...His Rhymes turn into absolute garbage

There is more to a Song Than a Verse, and there is more to a Verse than a Bar.

Shawn Can't Formulate an Entire Song with complexity without the allure of going back to recycled street trash

Also, I Like how you continue to ignore the fact that, after Jay-z Took a subliminal shot at Marshall during "the star is born"

That em came back with "Seduction" a Subliminal diss record to Jay, A Song in which jay was petrified to reply to

I like how you also forget how LL Cool J Took Offense to Jay using "I am already the Goat all i need is the Billy"

And Called Jay-Z Out to Battle Him....and Threatened Him..

Only for Shawn to Subsequently call Uncle L Into his Office to "Apologize" saying he meant no disrespect

Face it Brah...when it comes to beefs and battles, Shawn is scared to Go At Anyone ever since he got devoured by Nas according to the Public.

The Guy is an Ordinary Gimmick Rapper

He isn't even top 4 of the Last 20 years.

And Calling him number 5 is being Generous


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSosF_FkKZk

laykhorn:
we aint talking Hips here... Rap is the ish. Dont be sarcastic here. FYI, I grew up listening to 2pac, Jarule, Nas etc BTW, are yo' a fan of drizzy?