laykhorn:
I wouldnt start dropping lines of Drake's songs here because I'm a lot busy than you may want to think. Apologies for dropping this arg
Where did Drake leave? Yiiiyyyy!!

IIIIxRoyalxIIII: See i am unbiased...I personally Believe Takeover was a Masterpiece diss

Jay Was a Victim of Both "bad timing"

and the Public's thirst to see Nas back on his A-Game.....seeing as how he fell off so hard prior to that{And Since}

But i think it's completely disrespectful to rate Shawn lyrically ahead of Marshall

When so much Evidence points to Shawn Constantly Ducking Marshall's Subliminals.

My Man Joe ova Here is a Shawn Stan. It's all Good Fam.

Pass Jay the towel to wipe his face, the Big Homie said he sweatin right now chief.

IIIIxRoyalxIIII:


Now Watch Me Rip the Tat From Ya Armmm....
Stick you for ya Vanguard award in front of ya mom, ya first, second, and third Born Make ya Wife get on the Horn and Call Minister Farakhan ~~~~Canibus

thegoodjoehunt:

Yeah attack the messenger and not the message.

I said Eminem has the word play and strong metaphores well ahead of Jay but his flows don't touch and affect me. It is like watching a horror film or CSI series. Seeing blood and Mur.der.

Jay talks about following his steps is the road to success and thanking the boys in blue (cops) who put greed before the badge.

Jay means more to me, just like I prefer watching breaking bad series to Vampire diaries.

IIIIxRoyalxIIII: Nas If I Ruled the World First and Second Verses > 98% OF Shawns Entire Writing Catalog

Shawn Can't follow a plot, can't follow a story and Fails to Formulate a Meticulous Narrative

I am a Writer Myself, I recognize Great Writing when i see it.

A Writer>Rapper.

Writing is the Art...

Rapping is the Hijacked Lucrative, A Collection of Seized Similes

Shawn's Claim to Fame is that he is "Not a Writer"....and that he does not Write at All.

Not such a Glorious Claim when your Bars are of Simplistic Similarity

I am not trying to listen to no 44 Year old dude rap about selling Cokkaine no More Brah.

IIIIxRoyalxIIII:

I Wrote....




My Post Extends Far Beyond the Hip Hop World

I don't even Think Beyonce is as Fine as Alicia Keys....

Even Laila Ali Has Beyonce Beat....

Beyonce has facial features of a pre adolescent

I am Attracted to Women, not Little Girls.

Nelly and Ashanti were a better "looking" couple

and as Much as I Hate to even write this because i dislike the Guy.....

Kanye and Kim are a More Attractive Couple.....

Unless of course you want to debate the validity of Kanye vs Jay's Beauty...

In That Case i would politely like to withdraw from such a debate.

thegoodjoehunt:


As far as I am concerned, that is make up stuff he can never do and poeple call that crap a diss. That is what I hate about this so called lyrical rappers.

How is that classified as "make up stuff"

He rhymed about a local ordinary every day "stick up"

Niqqahs don't get stuck up in the hood?

They don't get robbed?

When rappers have beef...They don't call Minister Farakhan? Lmfao

Was Minister Farakhan not involved in the Jarule 50 cent beef

Fam you on another planet right now..

Lmfao@"its made up stuff he can never do"

You Jay-Z Stannin Harrrrrrdd Right Now

IIIIxRoyalxIIII:
I am not trying to listen to no 44 Year old dude rap about selling Cokkaine no More Brah.

thegoodjoehunt:

Jay isn't a 44 year old rapping about selling Coke but he is an Old G teaching the young Hustlas how he made his stacks and dodged Jail.

IIIIxRoyalxIIII:

IF I Could Capture The Rage Of Today's Youth and Bottle It~~
Crush the Glass from my bear Hands and Swallow It~~
Then Spit It Back in the Faces of you Racist and Hypocrites who think the same shitt but don't shitt~~~

thegoodjoehunt:

That is you want me to feel this over
[Jay-Z]
[b]
I kept feeding her money/
Till her sh1t started to make sense/


I am telling you that I can't feel breaking bottle, swallowing and spitting it as lyricism. That is for kids who watch Back to the future.

IIIIxRoyalxIIII:

"Rappers" don't hustle...they sit in the house with a pen and paper...and stare out their window while "real street warriors" put in work

IIIIxRoyalxIIII: So Jigga Man Rhyming about selling cokke on every record with 500 million sitting in the Bank...is "Real Life"...

Yet a Stick up by a broke asss rapper is fabricated anomaly

A Deviation From the "hood"

Jigg can rap about hustling White with Half a Bill in the Bank and Living in Gated Communities

But Rhyming About You Pill Addiction and Racist Record Executives trying to profit off you is CSI Shitt?

....What world is this?

Again...what floor do you Live on Fam?

IIIIxRoyalxIIII:
Canibus is a nutter.

Esin waju: Now to the hiphop matter..everyone made excellent points. @Royal..you are my man for repping Nasir. That is one MC I have chosen to place above every other rapper. @Joehunt...I believe you and I are almost of like minds when it comes to hiphop. I'll take LIFELINES over PUNCHLINES any day or time. I'd pick a rapper that talks about real stuff that can be related with over some guy putting some words together and saying meaningless crap. I call those kinda raps beautiful nonsense. However, if there is anything I disagree with then it is your view about Nas. You are totally off on that one. You quoted some lines from his 'every ghetto' track. Those lines came at the tail end of his second verse on that track and you dwelling on those lines just to pass Nasir across as meth head(offense taken here, go listen to 'the don' and hear what he said about codeine and promathezine) is a joke and seriously I laughed hard at that. One thing you gotta know is this, Nas is not your everday kinda rapper. He is more than that. He is a POET! So you see? It ain't right for you to just quote part of a poets work and criticize it without relating to the rest of the work. If you take your time to listen to that song, Nasir was addressing his daughter when he rhymes 'black princess it's an ugly world/I put my life up for yours/could you believe it but my shadow jealous/my flesh hates my own bones/my brain hits my heart my heart makes a song/though my songs come from the father/I'm lonely hold me it's getting darker'....only a biased raphead would pass this off as hallucination cos those lines makes perfect sense to those who are poetic in mind. Dunno whether or not I should proceed with an explanation but I believe you are intelligent enough to decipher it now that I have written those lines out properly. My two cents.

Esin waju: Now to the hiphop matter..everyone made excellent points. @Royal..you are my man for repping Nasir. That is one MC I have chosen to place above every other rapper. @Joehunt...I believe you and I are almost of like minds when it comes to hiphop. I'll take LIFELINES over PUNCHLINES any day or time. I'd pick a rapper that talks about real stuff that can be related with over some guy putting some words together and saying meaningless crap. I call those kinda raps beautiful nonsense. However, if there is anything I disagree with then it is your view about Nas. You are totally off on that one. You quoted some lines from his 'every ghetto' track. Those lines came at the tail end of his second verse on that track and you dwelling on those lines just to pass Nasir across as meth head(offense taken here, go listen to 'the don' and hear what he said about codeine and promathezine) is a joke and seriously I laughed hard at that. One thing you gotta know is this, Nas is not your everday kinda rapper. He is more than that. He is a POET! So you see? It ain't right for you to just quote part of a poets work and criticize it without relating to the rest of the work. If you take your time to listen to that song, Nasir was addressing his daughter when he rhymes 'black princess it's an ugly world/I put my life up for yours/could you believe it but my shadow jealous/my flesh hates my own bones/my brain hits my heart my heart makes a song/though my songs come from the father/I'm lonely hold me it's getting darker'....only a biased raphead would pass this off as hallucination cos those lines makes perfect sense to those who are poetic in mind. Dunno whether or not I should proceed with an explanation but I believe you are intelligent enough to decipher it now that I have written those lines out properly. My two cents.

Esin waju: This is the first time that I'm actually delighted that a thread got seriously derailed. From insipid crap to some brain stimulating debate about a subject very dear to my heart. An art that I found and still find very alluring inspite of it's declined standard. The derailing of this thread got me reminiscing about old nairaland's music/radio section where real heads converged to dissect rap joints. Used to be very intellectual ish back then. Big ups to those niggas meen...Sauron, Bamsyle, Eldee, Ibime, GbadeX, DBR and my cousin Kaydee. I learnt alot from these cats. Most things I never understood about hiphop was made to look like A,B,C by these guys. I salute y'all,, enough respect and to those whose name I did not call (cos I really can't remember all) respect to all. Peace.

IIIIxRoyalxIIII: Here is what i will give Shawn

He never sold out to that Auto Tune Garbage

And Refused to be a Follower

And Also, a Great Business Man....

Mad Respect For That

As an Mc

He was an Overly Glorified Freestyler.

Nothing more, Nothing Less.

dopesidez: Jigga man is the complete package I mean the full dose.
Pound for pound he is the best that ever did it.
BIG was another phenomenom.
If kanye had real gangster roots he would have been something else, kudos to kanye cos he is also a very good rapper.