who said speaking in tongues is a gift? isn't that nonesense you guys speaks? anybody can speak in tongues. you guys are funny. the different between argument and debate is crystal clear. argument is when you are defending yourself or opponents not because you know the fact but because you want to argue or claim winner. but debate in the other hand is to tell the truth and acknowledge your errors and to learn or correct it. you guys are in for argument sake christembassy them.

Yooguyz: t[b]t[/b]
WHEN DID THE GIFT OF THE SPIRIT CEASE? # biblical proof/reference and please don't speculate for me#.
Who told you Paul was sick? Was it because he mentioned a thorn in the flesh?
2 corinthians 12:7
"And lest i should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me A THORN IN THE FLESH, THE MESSENGER OF SATAN TO BUFFET ME, lest i should be exalted above measure".
Are you blind! Can't you see! The thorn in flesh was A MESSENGER OF SATAN. Does sickness have a personality? Or do need me to explain that phrase in details for you? K
messenger- angel, sent one
satan- devil, deciever, fallen angel
buffet- strike repeatedly, irritate.
How you take they read your bible sef?
If you want to know what the thorn in flesh is, ask me.

Galatians 4:13-15

13 You know that I came to you the first time because I was sick. That was when I told the Good News to you. 14 My sickness was a burden to you, but you did not stop showing me respect or make me leave. Instead, you welcomed me as if I were an angel from God. You accepted me as if I were Jesus Christ himself!


I was not talking abt the thorn in his flesh as you can see.

8 Love will never end. But all those gifts will come to an end—even the gift of prophecy, the gift of speaking in different kinds of languages, and the gift of knowledge. 9 These will all end because this knowledge and these prophecies we have are not complete. 10 But when perfection comes, the things that are not complete will end.

Can you see where it says only the gifts that are not complete will end when perfection comes.


22 And from this we see that the use of different languages shows how God deals with those who don’t believe, not with those who believe. And prophecy shows how God works through those who believe, not through unbelievers.

Goshen360: It's a Spiritual gift.

No be only gift. Na spiritual present. What language will u call it. Speaking in tongues; "tongues" means languages. Speaking in tongue is speaking a language. It is reported that the Disciples spoke in tongues and the crowd did not understand them. Simple reason: they spoke in their own native tongues/languages which the crowd don't understand. Unless u understand Portuguese. If person begin speak portuguese to u when u no even no say the thing na language, u go understand?

GIFT KO, PRESENT NI

Joel.:
who said speaking in tongues is a gift? isn't that nonesense you guys speaks? anybody can speak in tongues. you guys are funny. the different between argument and debate is crystal clear. argument is when you are defending yourself or opponents not because you know the fact but because you want to argue or claim winner. but debate in the other hand is to tell the truth and acknowledge your errors and to learn or correct it. you guys are in for argument sake christembassy them.

Are u stupid, blind or you are fool? Pick one of the above. If you believe that the holy ghost can help an individual interpret dreams supernaturally. Daniel 2:19-49 # i doubt if you even read your bible #. Can't you also believe that he can enable the individual to speak a language he hasn't learnt? Acts 2:4. Are you that dumb! Mtcheeeew.

shdemidemi:

Galatians 4:13-15

13 You know that I came to you the first time because I was sick. That was when I told the Good News to you. 14 My sickness was a burden to you, but you did not stop showing me respect or make me leave. Instead, you welcomed me as if I were an angel from God. You accepted me as if I were Jesus Christ himself!


I was not talking abt the thorn in his flesh as you can see.

8 Love will never end. But all those gifts will come to an end—even the gift of prophecy, the gift of speaking in different kinds of languages, and the gift of knowledge. 9 These will all end because this knowledge and these prophecies we have are not complete. 10 But when perfection comes, the things that are not complete will end.

Can you see where it says only the gifts that are not complete will end when perfection comes.


22 And from this we see that the use of different languages shows how God deals with those who don’t believe, not with those who believe. And prophecy shows how God works through those who believe, not through unbelievers.

you have a very subtle way of avoiding my questions....erhmmm i'll just allow my two questions to go unanswered.
The greek word for infirmity in the above verse you quoted means weakness or "in want of strength" or "inability to produce results". THIS WAS THE SAME WORD USED in 1corithains 2:3. Like many belivers, when paul started preaching he felt he could never do what God called him 2 do. The next verse tells us how he obeyed, and the holy ghost made up the difference with a demonstration of his power 1 cor 2:4. His weakness was a platform for the holy ghost to use him mightly. No wonder he said he would rather glory in his infirmities ( lack of supernatural strength) that the power of christ may rest upon him.
"therefore i take pleasure in infirmities ( weakness ) in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for christ's sake. For when am weak, then am i strong". 2 corithians 12:9-10.

Yooguyz:
you have a very subtle way of avoiding my questions....erhmmm i'll just allow my two questions to go unanswered.
The greek word for infirmity in the above verse you quoted means weakness or "in want of strength" or "inability to produce results". THIS WAS THE SAME WORD USED in 1corithains 2:3. Like many belivers, when paul started preaching he felt he could never do what God called him 2 do. The next verse tells us how he obeyed, and the holy ghost made up the difference with a demonstration of his power 1 cor 2:4. His weakness was a platform for the holy ghost to use him mightly. No wonder he said he would rather glory in his infirmities ( lack of supernatural strength) that the power of christ may rest upon him.
"therefore i take pleasure in infirmities ( weakness ) in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for christ's sake. For when am weak, then am i strong". 2 corithians 12:9-10.

i love ur points minus the insults, pls make ur points clean without insults. God bless.

Yooguyz:
Are u stupid, blind or you are fool? Pick one of the above. If you believe that the holy ghost can help an individual interpret dreams supernaturally. Daniel 2:19-49 # i doubt if you even read your bible #. Can't you also believe that he can enable the individual to speak a language he hasn't learnt? Acts 2:4. Are you that dumb! Mtcheeeew.

pls teach in love, 2tim2:24-26

Christianity is nothing but a confused religion. An avenue by some cunning people to deceive and exploit others all in the name of salvation.

Yooguyz:
you have a very subtle way of avoiding my questions....erhmmm i'll just allow my two questions to go unanswered.
The greek word for infirmity in the above verse you quoted means weakness or "in want of strength" or "inability to produce results". THIS WAS THE SAME WORD USED in 1corithains 2:3. Like many belivers, when paul started preaching he felt he could never do what God called him 2 do. The next verse tells us how he obeyed, and the holy ghost made up the difference with a demonstration of his power 1 cor 2:4. His weakness was a platform for the holy ghost to use him mightly. No wonder he said he would rather glory in his infirmities ( lack of supernatural strength) that the power of christ may rest upon him.
"therefore i take pleasure in infirmities ( weakness ) in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for christ's sake. For when am weak, then am i strong". 2 corithians 12:9-10.

Have missed this convo for a while ..please what is your question that I dint addres. If I may recall you said I should show you where Paul was ill and I did that..a proof to show tongues and signs have seized I showed you. Kindly ask the question as explicit as you can.

Yooguyz:
you have a very subtle way of avoiding my questions....erhmmm i'll just allow my two questions to go unanswered.
The greek word for infirmity in the above verse you quoted means weakness or "in want of strength" or "inability to produce results". THIS WAS THE SAME WORD USED in 1corithains 2:3. Like many belivers, when paul started preaching he felt he could never do what God called him 2 do. The next verse tells us how he obeyed, and the holy ghost made up the difference with a demonstration of his power 1 cor 2:4. His weakness was a platform for the holy ghost to use him mightly. No wonder he said he would rather glory in his infirmities ( lack of supernatural strength) that the power of christ may rest upon him.
"therefore i take pleasure in infirmities ( weakness ) in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for christ's sake. For when am weak, then am i strong". 2 corithians 12:9-10.

Have missed this convo for a while ..please what is your question that I dint addres. If I may recall you said I should show you where Paul was ill and I did that..a proof to show tongues and signs have seized I showed you. Kindly ask the question as explicit as you can.

shdemidemi:

Have missed this convo for a while ..please what is your question that I dint addres. If I may recall you said I should show you where Paul was ill and I did that..a proof to show tongues and signs have seized I showed you. Kindly ask the question as explicit as you can.

1. At What time PRECISELY ( chapter and verse) did the bible say miracles will pass away.
2.which system of time is the present belivers in?
(a) last days (b) early days (c) middle days. # question was edited#