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List. by umar4sure(m): 6:30pm On Apr 25, 2013 |
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Re: List. by alfaman2: 6:31pm On Apr 25, 2013 |
Story story, STORY! Once upon a time, TIME TIME! 1 Like |
Re: List. by phantom(m): 6:52pm On Apr 25, 2013 |
alfaman2: Story story,lol.....scam! |
Re: List. by Nobody: 8:53pm On Apr 25, 2013 |
where art thou source niggor? |
Re: List. by mike404(m): 8:56pm On Apr 25, 2013 |
Akuko na egwu mike ejeagha 1 Like |
Re: List. by BrokenTV: 9:23pm On Apr 25, 2013 |
umar4sure: Major General Muhammadu Buhari On Boko Haram’sk 1 Like |
Re: List. by vizboy(m): 10:31pm On Apr 25, 2013 |
Singing *this is superstory* |
Re: List. by slimghost(m): 10:35pm On Apr 25, 2013 |
Singing *this is the STORY of my life* |
Re: List. by topmostg: 11:30pm On Apr 25, 2013 |
Broken TV:nitwit!! 2 Likes |
Re: List. by kufre2010(m): 11:59pm On Apr 25, 2013 |
May be this is their new plan to exempt themselves. So they sent the op to try it on nairaland before they will take it to the media house. |
Re: List. by coputa(m): 12:24am On Apr 26, 2013 |
A divertionary tactics...those who throw stones should not live in a glass house. |
Re: List. by coputa(m): 12:25am On Apr 26, 2013 |
I can still see the tail of the ostrich |
Re: List. by Nobody: 1:07am On Apr 26, 2013 |
*In Eldee's voice* All na wash. |
Re: List. by segunobe(m): 4:31am On Apr 26, 2013 |
Most wanted indeed. So General Buhari has become a needle in a hay sack wey dem dey find? The same Boko Haram that tracked someone as private and conservative as General Shuwa? abeg talk another one. This one no jell. 1 Like |
Re: List. by BrokenTV: 8:21am On Apr 26, 2013 |
topmostg: nitwit!!wey suck you |
Re: List. by topmostg: 8:57am On Apr 26, 2013 |
Broken TV:SUCKER!!!, i mean for crying out loud, how can you quote the whole topic just for "K"? Honestly, You need to grow up SON... 1 Like |
Re: List. by idupaul: 9:00am On Apr 26, 2013 |
Hahahahahahahahahaha .. This article is funny, very funny.. Dem think say we be learners |
Re: List. by bcomputer101: 9:06am On Apr 26, 2013 |
Broken TV: You are nothing but a product of wasted SPERM and ENERGY. Where is my sledge hammer? You deserve a nail on your bald head... #i.d.i.o.t# 1 Like |
Re: List. by BrokenTV: 5:55pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
[quote author=bcomputer101 You are nothing but a product of wasted uterus. If it pains you jump into volcano. |
Re: List. by badmrkt(m): 6:19pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
Mr/Mss/Mrs you mis-interpreted them bokos,or perhaps,you'd wanted saying 'Buhari most loved and respected by bok(hari)o haram'.we forgive your mistake anyways. |
Re: List. by BrokenTV: 6:46pm On Apr 27, 2013 |
topmostg: SUCKER!!!, i mean for crying out loud, how can you quote the whole topic just for "K"?do you want make i re quote it again |
Re: List. by naptu2: 7:48pm On Apr 27, 2013 |
It's been a long time since I've read analysis on nairaland from someone who actually understands what's going on. The main boko haram are not interested in amnesty and will kill anybody who disagrees with their views (whether muslim or christian, northern leader or southern leader). Their goal is simply to establish the global caliphate. However, I still believe in the amnesty programme as a way of removing the distractions of the political and criminal boko haram and isolating the al-qaeda/boko haram faction. (I don't believe that dialogue or amnesty will work with the al-qaeda/boko haram. We must defeat them militarily and cut off their sources of funding/weapons). 1 Like |
Re: List. by Beaf1: 7:48pm On Apr 27, 2013 |
^ Yes! quote it again 'Broken Brain cell' |
Re: List. by naptu2: 8:02pm On Apr 27, 2013 |
There are so many popular misconceptions about this thing, but if you listen to the intelligence agencies (both nigerian and foreign), you study boko haram press releases and you've been following the situation since 2003, you'll understand what's going on. 1) Some believe that boko haram wants a separate country for the north. They would be surprised to discover that boko haram will continue fighting even if a separate country is created in the north. This is because boko haram wants to conquer the whole of West Africa (including southern Nigeria) and make it part of the global caliphate. 2) Some believe that boko haram exists because the north wants to take over the presidency. They forget that, even though boko haram was created in 2002 when a southerner was president, it's first nationally reported acts of violence occurred in 2009 when a northerner was president. Boko haram attacks will continue even if a northerner is elected president, because they do not recognise the constitution or the government of Nigeria. 3) Boko Haram exists because the north wants money. It's true that the criminal and political factions of boko haram want power and money, but the main al-qaeda faction is not interested in those things. Their aim is simply to take over Nigeria and establish the global caliphate. 2 Likes |
Re: List. by ujchief(m): 9:05pm On Apr 27, 2013 |
^ ^ so, dear analyst, what do you have us do? Give in to their demand of a global caliphate? @topic, all I see is a hyperbole from the journalist. |
Re: List. by naptu2: 9:17pm On Apr 27, 2013 |
ujchief: ^ ^ so, dear analyst, what do you have us do? Give in to their demand of a global caliphate? Does it sound sensible to give in to their demands I've already stated that the government must defeat the al-qaeda faction of boko haram militarily. I believe we should have taken up the offer of the former president of Niger to host ecomog forces there (this would act as a buffer for us). I supported the intervention in Mali. I also believe that the NIA must do everything possible to arrest the former president of Mauritania. I also support the amnesty process as a means of getting info and isolating the radical wing of boko haram (the militants must surrender their weapons and disclose their sources of funding/weapons. People who have been involved in murders should be excluded from the amnesty deal). I also believe we need to have surgical operations (much like the one that was carried out in Boston) to arrest and capture key commanders of the group. But above all, we need to unite (beyond ethnic, religious or political affiliations) to defeat this monster. |
Re: List. by ujchief(m): 11:01pm On Apr 27, 2013 |
Well, I don't support the amnesty for obvious reasons; there are more than one faction of boko haram. Amnesty should only be 'considered' if and only if all the factions of boko haram embraces the amnesty deal and cease fire. Else, how possible do you think it is to exclude people that has previously be involved in murder from the deal? Which boko faction hasn't involved itself in murder yet? As for uniting to fight the insurgency, that is a long shot! The greatest challenge of the JTF has been the locals, who seems to protect the haramites; this led to the recent military action at Baga. Uniting to fight it is really a long shot. |
Re: List. by Nobody: 12:01am On Apr 28, 2013 |
This is clearly a failed attempt to insult our intelligence. WTF!!!!!! |
Re: List. by naptu2: 3:01am On Apr 28, 2013 |
ujchief: Well, 1) I certainly do not support the idea of amnesty for all factions. That has never worked. Even in the Niger-Delta amnesty deal, you'll remember that Henry Okar's faction of MEND, John Togo and some of the other war lords did not accept the amnesty deal. The most hardline factions will not accept the deal, but that's ok. I want the hardline factions to be crushed. In the case of the Niger-Delta, what happened to Orkar, Togo and the other hardliners? They were crushed. However, the surrendering militants might provide valuable intelligence that will help to crush the hardliners. Furthermore, it will mean that the JTF can better concentrate their firepower on the hardliners without the distraction of the criminal and political factions. 2) It is not all members of boko haram that have been involved in murder. Some people have been spokesmen for the group, errand boys, some have been involved in robberies to raise funds, etc. For example, Ali Sada Umar Konduga was sentenced to just 3 years in prison because his role was simply to help the sect send threatening messages ( https://www.nairaland.com/809371/boko-haram-spokesman-pleads-guilty ). These sort of people have lived with members of the sect and may be able to provide valuable intelligence (remember that it was a messenger that led the US to discover Osama Bin Ladin's hideout). 3) Don't be deceived. In any conflict you'll have locals who sympathise with the militants and those who disagree with the militants. For example, in Kano at least 3 militants (probably more) have been lynched by residents and both the JTF and boko haram have confirmed that locals are helping the JTF. However, the government needs to initiate a "hearts and minds" campaign (similar to what the americans did in Iraq and Afghanistan). The situation in northern Nigeria at the moment does not favour informants. A) Both Boko Haram and the JTF confirmed that Kano residents have been providing information to the security services. Boko Haram even wrote a letter, threatening Kano residents that supply information to the security services http://www.osundefender.org/?p=32758 . Question: how did boko haram know that residents were providing information to the security services (remember that the President said that boko haram has infiltrated the security services and also remember that boko haram once published a list of members of the SSS and their addresses https://www.nairaland.com/1034079/boko-haram-sympathizer-obtains-personnel )? Does that mean that there's an information leakage in the JTF? If you provide information to the JTF and boko haram finds out and punishes you, would other citizens be encouraged to provide information? B) Boko haram was started in 2002. By 2003 the SSS had started monitoring the sect. In 2004 boko haram attacked police stations and many members of the sect (including the leader, Mohammed Yusuf) were arrested. They eventually got bail and attacked the police again in 2009. That's why policemen refused to arrest them, but preferred to carry out extra-judicial killings of boko haram members. If you were a resident and you see that militants were arrested, then a few months later you see these militants on the streets, out on bail, would you be encouraged to provide information about them, knowing that the person that's arrested today might be released tomorrow? C) The behaviour of our security services also leaves a lot to be desired. Many citizens fear that they would also be arrested if they provide information to the police. Even in criminal cases and cases of car accidents, the police often arrests informants, with the excuse that informants know something about the crime/accidents and are therefore suspects. We have to accept the fact that our security services have gotten a bad reputation over the years and the government needs to initiate a "hearts and mind" campaign to change that perception. It is possible to change that perception. 2 Likes |
Re: List. by Nobody: 4:12am On Apr 28, 2013 |
naptu2: This represents the basis for amnesty. It's more or less a ploy to get moderates to weaken the hardliners. 2) It is not all members of boko haram that have been involved in murder. Some people have been spokesmen for the group, errand boys, some have been involved in robberies to raise funds, etc. For example, Ali Sada Umar Konduga was sentenced to just 3 years in prison because his role was simply to help the sect send threatening messages ( https://www.nairaland.com/809371/boko-haram-spokesman-pleads-guilty ). These sort of people have lived with members of the sect and may be able to provide valuable intelligence (remember that it was a messenger that led the US to discover Osama Bin Ladin's hideout). All members have blood on their hands. Once you belong to BH, then one way or the other, you have contributed to success of the organisation. They are all criminals. 3) Don't be deceived. In any conflict you'll have locals who sympathise with the militants and those who disagree with the militants. For example, in Kano at least 3 militants (probably more) have been lynched by residents and both the JTF and boko haram have concfirmed that locals are helping the JTF. However, the government needs to initiate a "hearts and minds" campaign (similar to what the americans did in Iraq and Afghanistan). The situation in northern Nigeria at the moment does not favour informants. Completely true. That's why insurgents can not really survive in an environment they are not familiar with. There's no trust between citizens and the Police. That trust can not be developed overnight. It will take years for such trust to be developed. I support Amnesty because the Nigerian Military can not defeat BH without a substantial collateral damage in civilian casualties. The easiest route is talking to the moderate elements in the sect and through that actionable intelligence can be sourced and worked upon. But the government should also devise a mechanism to cater for the victims. No amount of money can bring back the dead but let's show we care. |
Re: List. by naptu2: 4:50am On Apr 28, 2013 |
bayooooooo: Of course they are all criminals. If they weren't all criminals, there would be no need for amnesty. However, go back to my post and take a look at the example I gave (Konduga). The government has also stated that it will compensate victims of boko haram attacks http://nationalmirroronline.net/new/fg-to-compensate-boko-haram-victims-jonathan/ |
Re: List. by Nobody: 9:05am On Apr 28, 2013 |
naptu your analysis makes plenty sense. |
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