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Re: Somali Military History by somalia5: 5:53am On May 18, 2013
Black Kenichi: Kenyan and Ugandan soldiers kick out Somali Al Shaabab and hopefully bring some level of security and peace to that hell hole! grin grin grin


and over 3,000 of them amisom monkeys died for the somali man, lmao
Re: Somali Military History by BlackKenichi(m): 1:26pm On May 18, 2013
somalia5:


and over 3,000 of them amisom monkeys died for the somali man, lmao

Died to clean up a sh1t hole called Somalia. Let's face facts, Somali men are useless!
Re: Somali Military History by pleep(m): 4:55pm On May 18, 2013
I agree the african union presence is somalia is stupid... its not their concern. They should let somalia deal with itself
Re: Somali Military History by BlackKenichi(m): 5:34pm On May 18, 2013
pleep: I agree the african union presence is somalia is stupid... its not their concern. They should let somalia deal with itself

I agree but in all honesty Somalia would return to a sh1t hole ran by Arab backed terrorists if they (Kenyan troops) leave!
The reason why Kenya invaded Somalia is because Al Shabaab would've extended their influence to Kenya.
The last thing Africa needs is more Arabism infecting it.
Re: Somali Military History by somalia9: 10:32pm On May 18, 2013
Kenyans die for somalis and so do other negroids


cause somali man doesnt wanna kill another somali because the government will lose legitamacy so they use negroids and negroids die and everyone is happy, somali policy lol


Do u think if an african country and arab country have a war, u kno somalia will take the side of the arab/ muslim country. You know somalia is part of the arab league, peaceful somalia only makes indian ocean an arab lake stretching the infulence of islam and arab league farther at the expense of negroids


somali president already said he wants to deport negroid bantus whats left of them, many went to tanzania lol



many have come to america which means they cant to back to somalia since immigrantion and customs wl stop as they dont look somali



the somali man wins again
Re: Somali Military History by BlackKenichi(m): 11:03pm On May 18, 2013
somalia9: Kenyans die for somalis and so do other negroids


cause somali man doesnt wanna kill another somali because the government will lose legitamacy so they use negroids and negroids die and everyone is happy, somali policy lol
Nope it's because Somalis can't run sh1t!

somalia9: Do u think if an african country and arab country have a war, u kno somalia will take the side of the arab/ muslim country. You know somalia is part of the arab league, peaceful somalia only makes indian ocean an arab lake stretching the infulence of islam and arab league farther at the expense of negroids
Who cares!? Arabs can't fight for toffee. This only goes to show you're in the Arab man's pocket. Who'd wanna be an Arab, they are ugly, disgusting inbr*d looking dudes.


somalia9: somali president already said he wants to deport negroid bantus whats left of them, many went to tanzania lol



many have come to america which means they cant to back to somalia since immigrantion and customs wl stop as they dont look somali



the somali man wins again
You call that a win? Somalis need their "bantu" to produce food.
Re: Somali Military History by somalia9: 2:02am On May 19, 2013
somalis dont need bantu as today machines do all the heavy work.



We are not in the arab pockets anymore than we are in the african union pockets. Somali interrsts are more in line with those in the arab world like egypt who dont like ethiopia

if anything arabs are in our pocket since they support somalia over ethiopia
Re: Somali Military History by BlackKenichi(m): 4:11pm On May 19, 2013
somalia9: somalis dont need bantu as today machines do all the heavy work.
Yet you still need them to grow food.

somalia9: We are not in the arab pockets anymore than we are in the african union pockets. Somali interrsts are more in line with those in the arab world like egypt who dont like ethiopia
Bullsh1t! Where's the Egyptian army support in Somalia!?

somalia9: if anything arabs are in our pocket since they support somalia over ethiopia
Keep telling yourself that. Arabs don't give a sh1t about Africans.
Re: Somali Military History by Nobody: 5:18pm On May 19, 2013
Arabs actually want to destabilize and further Arabize Africa. I want go more in depth, but Im on my phone.

If anything Arabs are just using Somalia as a front to further spread Islam and Arab culture. Just look what happened to Sudan and Egypt(and Northwest Africa). East Africa is and then West Africa(which I want to get on when I get a computer).
Re: Somali Military History by Nobody: 5:19pm On May 19, 2013
Africans most get rod of Arab culture before its too late. Berbers are already fighting to not be called Arabs.
Re: Somali Military History by BlackKenichi(m): 6:08pm On May 19, 2013
KidStranglehold: Arabs actually want to destabilize and further Arabize Africa. I want go more in depth, but Im on my phone.
Damn straight.

KidStranglehold: If anything Arabs are just using Somalia as a front to further spread Islam and Arab culture. Just look what happened to Sudan and Egypt(and Northwest Africa). East Africa is and then West Africa(which I want to get on when I get a computer).
I agree to a certain extent. Islam isn't the problem but Arabism (and Middle Eastern culture in general).

KidStranglehold: Africans must get rid of Arab culture before its too late. Berbers are already fighting to not be called Arabs.
While I agree in theory, in practice it's going to be very tricky.

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Re: Somali Military History by Nobody: 6:52pm On May 19, 2013
Black Kenichi:
Damn straight.


I agree to a certain extent. Islam isn't the problem but Arabism (and Middle Eastern culture in general).


While I agree in theory, in practice it's going to be very tricky.

Yep...Islam was not a problem in Africa back then. Matter fact...Some of Africa's most advanced civilizations were Islamics(Mali, Songhai, Swahili states,etc), but now it seems to be a problem with Muslims vs. Christians.

Arabism is definitely a problem and I'm about to get into that.
Re: Somali Military History by Nobody: 7:40pm On May 19, 2013
Like I said...There was always a goal for Arabs to Arabize Africa and its people. But not only Arabs, but Eurocentrics too.


Remember the conflict in Mali? Well I believe its still going on. Anyways...

The war in Mali is a war based on Arabs calling themselves Tuareg and moving south to conquer and plunder Timbuktu in the name of Islam and to assist those white supremacists who are supporting them in order to push this nonsense that all these people in North Africa were historically white. Yet how is it that these folks are calling the Tuareg white in Mali, a black African country according to them, yet then turn around and call the Tuareg of Libya black? Because it is an agenda to decimate indigenous African people in North Africa. The so called 'Arabs' in Sudan are doing it with the assistance of the Arabs and the same in Somalia. This is all about destabilizing West Africa and the West using the Arabs or arabized Africans to create a buffer in North Africa against blacks and pushing them further and further south. At no time in history did anyone ever describe Tuareg as white except in the mouths of the racist whites who did everything they could to put whites on top of the Tuaregs, whether this was reality or not, because this is how whites believe it is supposed to be.

Reprisals against Libyan Tuareg who supported Gaddafi
The Tuareg of one Libyan town are discovering there are serious consequences for the support some of them gave to Colonel Gaddafi.

"Really, Mr Justin, now we are in good condition. Believe me, I am too happy to see you. My God, now I feel shy."

The exuberant greetings are one of the great joys of travelling in Libya.

In this case, my old friend Mohammed Ali from the southern Libyan oasis town of Ghadames was particularly effusive, having heard that I had just been released by my Tuareg kidnappers after being held captive in the desert.

We had not seen each other in almost 13 years.

I had wanted to travel south from Tripoli to meet old friends from a desert expedition years before.

I had also wanted to look into stories I had been hearing about conflict breaking out in Ghadames between the town's mixed Arab-Berber population and the Tuareg.

Held hostage

The two populations have lived together, sometimes uneasily, for centuries.

Gaddafi's use of the Tuareg as local enforcers during the revolution had stirred up these divisions. Now that the town had risen up and expelled them, reprisals were in the air.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14948319

There has always been a desire by some Arab groups in North Africa to use the Tuaregs history of warfare and rebellion as a cover to move south and to pose as Tuareg revolutionaries in order to push Arab rule further south. And this is exactly what is happening with Libya, with Qaddafi himself having a lot to do with promoting this as many of the Tuaregs he supported had "leaders" who were lighter skinned and labeled by Qadafi as "arabs".

Son of Qadafi with Tuaregs.


Any slowpoke can wrap a turban around their head and call themselves a tuareg but that does not make them a TRUE Tuareg in any real sense. LMAO!!!
Re: Somali Military History by Nobody: 8:00pm On May 19, 2013
Also I am not surprised in the slighest bit to find Somalis on the internet like Somalia9. Them enslaving Bantu people in eastern Africa made them debvelop a superior complex that makes them think they are better than other Africans and so any African that resembles a 'Bantu' is inferior to them. Not only that, they have been brainedwashed by the hamitic myth and also the British, Arabs, Italians,etc brainwashed them to think they are better than those 'other' Africans. The Arabs and also Eurocentrics love them, because again they can use these Somalis as a front or bufferzone.

Now Ethiopians on the other hand are differ from Somalis greatly. They are not infected by Arabism and are one of the most 'pro-black' Africans that I met. They and other east Africans(Kenya, Uganda,etc) didn't let Arabism effect them and act as a bufferzone against Arabism into Africa, and not only that they destroy the Eurocentric hamitic myth that tries to claim them.
Re: Somali Military History by Nobody: 8:02pm On May 19, 2013
When Somalia9 said that Somalis willing worked with Arabs to spread Islam...I had to stop and think.
Re: Somali Military History by BlackKenichi(m): 8:23pm On May 19, 2013
KidStranglehold:
Yep...Islam was not a problem in Africa back then. Matter fact...Some of Africa's most advanced civilizations were Islamics(Mali, Songhai, Swahili states,etc), but now it seems to be a problem with Muslims vs. Christians.

Damn straight! Islam has contributed to Africa in many wonderful ways. Also it was Islam that promoted many sciences with it's rise as well!

KidStranglehold: Arabism is definitely a problem and I'm about to get into that.
You should make a thread about it!
Re: Somali Military History by BlackKenichi(m): 8:56pm On May 19, 2013
KidStranglehold: Also I am not surprised in the slighest bit to find Somalis on the internet like Somalia9. Them enslaving Bantu people in eastern Africa made them debvelop a superior complex that makes them think they are better than other Africans and so any African that resembles a 'Bantu' is inferior to them. Not only that, they have been brainedwashed by the hamitic myth and also the British, Arabs, Italians,etc brainwashed them to think they are better than those 'other' Africans. The Arabs and also Eurocentrics love them, because again they can use these Somalis as a front or bufferzone.
Precisely!

KidStranglehold: Now Ethiopians on the other hand are differ from Somalis greatly. They are not infected by Arabism and are one of the most 'pro-black' Africans that I met. They and other east Africans(Kenya, Uganda,etc) didn't let Arabism effect them and act as a bufferzone against Arabism into Africa, and not only that they destroy the Eurocentric hamitic myth that tries to claim them.
Damn straight! Ethiopians are very "pro-Black" and they know the dangers of Arabism all to well. Some dude learnt the hard way of saying to an Ethiopia woman, she's not black. That Ethio girl want crazy.

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Re: Somali Military History by Nobody: 9:13pm On May 19, 2013
Black Kenichi:
Precisely!


Damn straight! Ethiopians are very "pro-Black" and they know the dangers of Arabism all to well. Some dude learnt the hard way of saying to an Ethiopia woman, she's not black. That Ethio girl want crazy.

LOL...I made that same mistake to brotha. Before when I was less knowledgable about African people I ignorantly assumed Ethiopians were mixed with black African and Arab on youtube and this Ethiopian person cussed me out saying that Ethiopians are black. That was a long time ago. Even though some Ethiopians may not get along with other Africans, they still are pro black.

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Re: Somali Military History by pleep(m): 10:49pm On May 19, 2013
they are mixed with arab, some of their tribes actually originated in the middle east... and they arent pro black. lol
Re: Somali Military History by somalia9: 10:50pm On May 19, 2013
its only nairaland and in the minds of afrocentrics that ethiopians are pro black


the king of ethiopia said many times he is caucasion, ethiopians call themselves habesha to distinguish themselves from the negroids whose land they stole in the south. If they are afrocentrics the. why do their
negroid polulation live like 2nd class citizens.


Why do ethiopians call blacks baria which means slave.

ethiopians in the north have up to 60 percent arab dna, while somalis are 50 percent on a average
the word habesha is arabic for mixed. lmao
Re: Somali Military History by somalia9: 10:52pm On May 19, 2013
The headquarters of the former ‘Organisation for African Unity’, OAU, Since re-christened AU for African Union, is situated in the far northeastern corner of Africa, in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa - of all places. But that is not the main reason why time and again African leaders and diplomats have been calling for a transfer of the the headquarters to some other place…
It may sound strange, but that reason is simply racism, with a capital R. Yes, racism in the middle of Africa. Or so at least among that nation of ethnic group which for the last 120 years and until 1991 virtually owned political power in the country: the Amharas. Regarding themselves as the true Ethiopians or brown ones, they also keep maintaining that "this is not Africa", that they are Semites or Kushites and not black Africans, or something better, so to speak.

Now if you keep that for yourself, to compensate for whatever complex you might otherwise be suffering from, it wouldn't really matter. In realy life, however, it does matter. The least inconvenience, so to speak is the one suffered in the capitalAddis Ababa by dark-skinned, thick-nosed and -lipped black Africans, on whom the average Ethiopian Amhara likes to look down upon. Now these gentlemen spend most of their time in offices or conferences. Their wives, however, are much worse off, since they have to go out almost daily into the streets and markets to do their shopping, where they are made to feel that they are different. Most of the time by gestures, but very often too in words and remarks which come straight from the vocabulary of racism. The most defamatory word which can be heard quite regularly describing black Africans is 'shankilla', which translated into common English simply means "SLAVE... and which just reminds us that until the fifties emperor Haile Selassie and his feudal companions used to have slaves at their courts. Slaves there are no more, yet the term is still being used. And if that isn't then as a brown Ethiopian friend of mine toldme, another hardly less derogatory word is commonly being used. He told me how he overheard one of those carefully chosen, always light-complexioned Ethiopian Airlines stewardesses speaking loudly about black African passengers on the plane as "Those things".
These being so even after 17 years of so-called "socialist internationalism" under Col. Mengistu it looks like the new regime under Meles Zenawi has some hard educating of its peoples to do. Especially so when even Amahara commoners cook ladies, Netsanet. One day she really asked me :
“Why do you always invite those blacks?”


Now, you must know that ‘those blacks’ were indeed two very good friends: one was ambassadore Segun Olusola, Nigeria’s ambassador to Ethiopia and the OAU, a good friend since the early sixties. And the other was Luis d’Almeida, the Angolan ambassador, and also a friend, since the days when we both worked in the Africa Service of Radio Deutsche Welle in Cologne, Germany.
Re: Somali Military History by BlackKenichi(m): 11:05pm On May 19, 2013
pleep: they are mixed with arab, some of their tribes actually originated in the middle east... and they arent pro black. lol
Yep some of them are mixed with Arabs. At about 25% tops. I've met plenty of "pro-black" ones.
Re: Somali Military History by Nobody: 11:05pm On May 19, 2013
pleep: they are mixed with arab, some of their tribes actually originated in the middle east... and they arent pro black. lol

Do you have proof for your claim?




Oromos who are the majority of Ethiopia are mainly African. And if you don't believe me just go to an Ethiopian website and say they aren't Africa/black don't take my word take theirs.
Re: Somali Military History by BlackKenichi(m): 11:10pm On May 19, 2013
somalia9: its only nairaland and in the minds of afrocentrics that ethiopians are pro black


the king of ethiopia said many times he is caucasion, ethiopians call themselves habesha to distinguish themselves from the negroids whose land they stole in the south. If they are afrocentrics the. why do their
negroid polulation live like 2nd class citizens.


Why do ethiopians call blacks baria which means slave.

ethiopians in the north have up to 60 percent arab dna, while somalis are 50 percent on a average
the word habesha is arabic for mixed. lmao

Wrong and lies. Ethiopians only have about 25-30% Arab admixture. Somalis are only 15% Arab tops
Re: Somali Military History by Nobody: 11:19pm On May 19, 2013
somalia9: its only nairaland and in the minds of afrocentrics that ethiopians are pro black


the king of ethiopia said many times he is caucasion, ethiopians call themselves habesha to distinguish themselves from the negroids whose land they stole in the south. If they are afrocentrics the. why do their
negroid polulation live like 2nd class citizens.


Why do ethiopians call blacks baria which means slave.

ethiopians in the north have up to 60 percent arab dna, while somalis are 50 percent on a average
the word habesha is arabic for mixed. lmao



Hey don't look at me, im just going by experience...And I don't know why you're trying to speak for Ethiopian when they dislike Somalis. Why are Ethiopains teaming up with 'Bantu' nations(Kenya,Uganda) against Somalia? Just why If they consider them slaves...

As a Somali you shouldn't be talking when Somalia are the most African out of the HOA. The irony...
Re: Somali Military History by somalia9: 11:30pm On May 19, 2013
u guys are ignorant. What does the most african mean? lmao


somalia has two national languages somali and arabic, somalia is in the arab league, somalis have been warring against ethiopia and tens of thousands of arabs and turks died fighting against ethiopia.

what do u mean most african? lmao the ignorance continues.


somalis and ethiopians get along, its the governments that dont.


40 percent of ethiopia is ormo and want their own country, the 6 million somalis want to be part of somalia and not ethiopia.
Re: Somali Military History by Nobody: 11:38pm On May 19, 2013
@somalia9

Be proud of your niggger blood! grin

"The results of a population survey on blood group distribution in Somalia, East Africa, are presented. Over 1,000 subjects were tested for most blood groups included in the survey. The sampling covered the whole country and was well in accordance with the population density as estimated by the recorded birth places of the subjects. Altogether, 46 blood group antigens were tested, partly common antigens within 11 of the major blood group systems, but also infrequent and very frequent antigens, some not tested before in Africa, were included. The results were compared with the available data for other related peoples and for populations from the same geographical area. The standard genetic distances were also applied in the comparison. The results suggest that only a minor component in the genetic constitution of the Somali population can be ascribed to Caucasian admixture. They are markedly in contrast with some earlier findings. During the survey we observed a previously unknown Rh gene complex occurring with a polymorphic frequency in Somalis."

"It is evident that our results point only to a minor admixture of Caucasian genes in the Somali population. Among these might be the relatively high frequency of Dce, the low M and the unequal distribution of S and between s between M and N as well as the somewhat lower Fy4 as compared with East African Bantus. Consequently it is very probable that the long-standing cultural and other connections with the Arabic world have not similarly found expression in the genetic make-up of the Somali population as they have affected the society. Rather to the contrary, it is known that the nearby Arab populations are the ones that have quite a considerable admixture of African genes. However there are similarities between the Cushitic peoples, as in Rh and MNSs frequencies, which today differentiate them from other populations in this part of African continent. Rather than suggesting a recent admixture (within the past 1,000 years or so), these could be of a very ancient nature, dating back to a period of consolidation of the aboriginal Cushitic population from which the presently known groups later diverged."


-- P. Sistonend, J. Koistinena, Aden Abdulleb. (1987) Distribution of Blood Groups in the East African Somali Population
Hum Hered. 37(5):300-313

Hey buddy...Dont take it the wrong way. We were all nigggers if we go back 60k years ago...
Re: Somali Military History by somalia9: 11:47pm On May 19, 2013
the world is not black and white. Somalis are not negroid nor are they niggggers


their are hundreds of studies that show that our blood is mostly native cushitc shared with other horners and up to 50 percent is shared with arabs.
Re: Somali Military History by Nobody: 11:56pm On May 19, 2013
somalia9: u guys are ignorant. What does the most african mean? lmao


somalia has two national languages somali and arabic, somalia is in the arab league, somalis have been warring against ethiopia and tens of thousands of arabs and turks died fighting against ethiopia.

what do u mean most african? lmao the ignorance continues.


somalis and ethiopians get along, its the governments that dont.


40 percent of ethiopia is ormo and want their own country, the 6 million somalis want to be part of somalia and not ethiopia.



'Most African' as in DNA...I told you a million times that we don't use terms such as black or white when discussing DNA.

Also...
[img]http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/Matthews1986/media/temporary_zps140a3e36.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0[/Img]
^^^^LMAO! Even when AA's are include in the study Somalis group with them rather than your precious Arabs! LMAO! Again be proud of your niggger blood. grin


And I always see Somalis and Ethios going at each others throat on YT.
Re: Somali Military History by somalia9: 12:02am On May 20, 2013
lol afrocentric


somalis group with other horners, than berbers then arabs


afrocentrics with graphs running after horners like a big gorilla baby doesnt change that
Re: Somali Military History by Nobody: 12:05am On May 20, 2013
somalia9: the world is not black and white. Somalis are not negroid nor are they niggggers


their are hundreds of studies that show that our blood is mostly native cushitc shared with other horners and up to 50 percent is shared with arabs.

I never stated the world was black and white I never even mentioned black or even stated Somalis were black.

And I hope you know your precious Arabs too have African blood. grin

And again negroid is just a phenotype so of course most of you guys are not 'negroid'.
Re: Somali Military History by Nobody: 12:09am On May 20, 2013
somalia9: lol afrocentric


somalis group with other horners, than berbers then arabs


afrocentrics with graphs running after horners like a big gorilla baby doesnt change that

Nope Somalis are quite distant from Arabs. You are quite correct on closely grouping with other hornets and maybe Berbers(if you mean the indigenous African ones).

Nope none of what I posted is Afrocentric but factual unless you can debunk what I posted. Even one of my sources flat out stated that a minority of Somalis are mixed Arab!!! grin

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