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Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:04pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
Rossikk: that all you are fit to say, you son of a b!tch. you need to be caged in a mental asylum.you need psychopathic treatment with your obsession with skin colour. |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by Rossikk(m): 8:07pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
PAGAN 9JA: YOU are not a Nigerian. YOU get lost to wherever hole you crept out of. Troll animal claiming Nigeria. |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by Rossikk(m): 8:09pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
PAGAN 9JA: You are a complete ret'ard with zero knowledge of yourself or the African continent. Go and chuck spears and eat goatshiit, that's all you're good for. Stinking tribalist peabrain. Achebe, Nkrumah, Dr King and other African sages are ALL on my side. There is not ONE single African intellectual who reasons in your animalistic fashion. If there is, name the person. |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:10pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
Rossikk: A$$HOLE AMERICAN! LMAO! WHO ARE YOU KIDDING YOU LUNATIC? you go sleep in your gutter you filth. dont use my words on me. YOU ARE THE TROLL HERE! FLOODING THE FORUM WITH STONE STATUES AND CLAIMING DESCENT FROM EGYPTIANS , ASSYRIANS, ARABS, ETC, AND THEN CALLING ME A SLAVE! |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:13pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
Rossikk: Your words dont mean anything. I have more knowledge than you which i why I beat you in every argument so far. all you dould do was hurl lame insults at me. I was born in African continent unlike you! Ill chuck spears. there is no shame in that. you can do your drugs and make p.orn videos and worship your gay emancipators (malcom x was a homos.exual btw and worked as a gigolo for a while. im not even kidding. thats the type of ppl who led your movement. you can worship them). STINKING RACIST LIAR. |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:15pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
AND BTW LMAO @ CALLING ME A TRIBALIST JUST BECAUSE I SUPPORT AFRICAN TRIBES! YOU ARE NOT A NIGERIAN! I KNOW THAT FOR SURE! ALL NIGERIANS LOVE THEIR TRIBES! YOU ARE NOT ONE! YOU ARE A LUNATIC AND AN AMERICAN! I KNOW YOUR LIKES. |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by Rossikk(m): 8:17pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
PAGAN 9JA: Where did I claim descent from Arabs and Assyrians?? Of course the ancient Egyptians were described by themselves and visitors to their land as blacks, and WERE ancestors of modern black Africans. MANY Nigerian and African scholars like Olumide Lucas, Aderibigbe, Cheikh Anta Diop as well as western scholars like Bernal, Basil Davidson, Chancellor Williams - these are people who are FAR SMARTER THAN YOU, snd HAVE DONE THE RESEARCH unlike your dumb, ignorant thick head, tribalist self. When you get your head out of the bush and expose yourself to books like the rest of the civilized world, then you'll sound less like a stupi.d lunatic. |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by Rossikk(m): 8:21pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
PAGAN 9JA: What knowledge do you have? The other day I asked you for a list of African history books you've read, and you couldn't name a single book. Maybe you buried the books in your 'tribal' hut and forgot to read them in your haste to chuck spears? |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:23pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
Rossikk: YOU CLAIMED ASSYRIANS WERE BLACKS! DONT LIE! WHICH MEANS YOU TRIED TO PROVE OUR RELATION TO THEM! AND EGYPTIANS DID NOT JUST LEAVE EGYPT AND SETTLE IN NIGERIA YOU F00L. THE EGYPTIAN HISTORY IS AS OLD AS THAT OF INDIGENOUS AFRICAN SETTLEMENTS, IF NOT YOUNGER! IF YOU WANT ME TO QUOTE AUTHORS, I CAN DO THAT TOO! IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE SO IN THIS THREAD. THEY ARE NOT SMARTER THAN ME! THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM AND ME IS THAT THEY HAVE PENNED THEIR WORKS DOWN. YOU ARE AN A$$HOLE. PROVIDE ARGUMENTS HERE OR ELSE SHUT UP! I HAVE ALREADY GRADUATED UNIVERSITY AND I HAVE STUDIED FAR MORE THAN YOU! IVE READ MORE BOOKS THAN YOU! ITS JUST THAT I DONT CONCENTRATE ALL MY BOOK READING ON RACIST MATERIAL. YOUR MOTHER MUST BE LUNATIC. IF YOU HAVE THE GUTS PUT SOME INFO HERE AND LET US DEBUNK YOU. OR ELSE SHUT THE FCK UP! |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:25pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
Rossikk: I have a lot of knowledge. I have read countless books. Im a man into religion more than these things. Which is why I didnt name authors. However Ive read enough. why are you asking me to deal with other works? I have my own brain and research. If you want info then ask me! Why are you scared? Go do your p.orn videos. dont wast my time.atleast youll earn some money that way. |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:26pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
btw this is hardly my area. You are just diverting from the core issue now. stop running away. |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by Rossikk(m): 8:30pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
PAGAN 9JA: Your mother is a coc.k sucking prostitute for you to open your stinky trap to call my parents. You're a filthy dog with no home training. University my asss. You're a high school dropout without the least decorum. You interject debates with ''shut up there...''. Is that how they taught you to debate in your ''university''? Worthless animal with his head loaded with stinky pig shiit. Of course the first Assyrians were blacks. Even the first Arabs were blacks as were the first Indians and Chinese. The first EUROPEANS were blacks. It was AFRICANS afterall who migrated out of Africa to populate those places. Research evidence ABOUNDS on this. But because you're extremely stup.id and narrow minded you think Africans have only sat in their 'tribal village huts' throughout their existence. Any suggestion that they were learned, dynamic people who ventured out of their huts and villages is met by ANGER by you. When they show you books to read, you refuse to read. Compound dunce. Don't ever claim to be Nigerian here. Nigerians are intelligent folks who love learning. You are a thick-skulled dinosaur who hates to learn anything new. 1 Like |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:41pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
Rossikk: YOur mother is a street side prostitute and your father is a dirty gigolo who suck his own cock. you lunatic akata filth. yes your a$$ must be a university for p.ornographic classes. go back to your p.ornographic videos. you are not fit for any argument so now you have forced me to come to your level. Your head must be filled with pig shYT. THE FIRST ASSYRIANS WERE NOT BLACK! WHAT DO YOU MEAN OFCOURSE! HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE ASSYRIA IS? BLACK IS PHENOTYPE! DO YOU KNOW WHAT BULLSHYT YOU ARE TAKING? DO YOU KNOW WHAT EXACT SHADE OF BLACK THEY WERE? WHERE YOU ALIVE BACK THEN?! GREAT! CONGRATULATIONS! EVERYONE CLAP FOR THIS MENTAL ASYLUM DROPOUT! SO NOW FIRST "ÄRABS" , "INDIANS" ( the b.astard doesnt know that there is no such ethnic group as INDIAN) and "CHINESE" were BLACKS. wow you are the best. you should deserve noble price! YOU GET YOUR DATES RIGHT! YOU TALKED ABOUT CHINESE (i.e., PEOPLE LIVING IN CHINA) THEY WERE NOT BLACK. EITHER TALK ABOUT A SPECIFIC TIME PERIOD OF MIGRATIONS WITHIN AFRICA OR ON MAINLAND ASIA! I WILL TELL YOU THAT CHINESE WERE APES! NOW WHAT? THIS IS HOW YOU ARE TALKING TO ME WITHOUT REFERANCE TO A DATE! EVERYONE WAS A MICRORGANISM, YOU KNOW THAT?! RESEARCH EVIDENCE MY FOOT! YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO USE THESE EVIDENCE! STOP CONFUSING THE DATES! SO WHATS YOUR POINT IN THE END? EVERYONE IN THIS WORLD WAS APES! DOES THAT MAKE YOU A BIG ACHIEVER NOW calling me narrow minded! LOOK AT YOUR OWN EMPTY EGG HEAD FIRST! THEN TALK. |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by RedLight1: 9:01pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
why all these dirty insults 2 Likes |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by Rossikk(m): 10:38pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
^^ sorry... my bad... I think I'll just ignore this tout from hereon out. Not worth the effort. |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by PAGAN9JA(m): 10:40pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
^^good. i was getting sick of your lies. you can now lie elsewhere and stop polluting this forum. |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by RedLight1: 10:48pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
Rossikk: ^^ sorry... my bad... I think I'll just ignore this tout from hereon out. Not worth the effort.thanks bro and pagan 9ja please you too should stop ...lets debate like gentlemen. this is not politics section thanks 1 Like |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by Rossikk(m): 10:49pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
Red-Light: If you go to the start of the thread you can see how the dude entered the debate - with insults and abuse. Totally intolerant of contrary perspectives. I've a new policy though. Anyone who cannot debate me within the realms of decency and mutual respect, I ignore, no matter what 'point' they raise. Life is too short! 2 Likes |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by PAGAN9JA(m): 10:53pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
Red-Light: Yes I should. I must not let myself stoop to such levels as this fellow. He thinks he is some great person by calling me a spear thrower. anyways, whenever I see lies on this forum, I will argue against it. expecially such indecent and open lies to further personal motives. this is the first time Ive insulted so much. I just wanted to show these gutter borns that I too know how to swear. |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by Nobody: 11:47pm On Jun 14, 2013 |
PAGAN 9JA:Hausa man take it easy naw! |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by Nobody: 1:52am On Jun 15, 2013 |
Rossikk: PAGAN 9JA: Gatdamn! WTH? |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by Nobody: 1:53am On Jun 15, 2013 |
Red-Light: I know right?! What ever happened to accepting opinions and agreeing to disagree? 1 Like |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by Nobody: 1:56am On Jun 15, 2013 |
PAGAN 9JA: lol you do know the HINDUS introduced Marijuana to Jamaicans right? You're a pro-pagan man yet making fun of a pagan practice? lol I know these things get you riled up but take it easy...esp. when talking about JA. btw thos black caribs are heavily mixed with Native Carib Indians. so please stfu. they are JAmaicans today. yup!! among other things and we are proud. 1 Like |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by PAGAN9JA(m): 1:59am On Jun 15, 2013 |
*Kails*: where did I make fun? I just said the truth. did you see the quote he posted? Tell me Kails, does that make sense? he is trying to attach anyone with dark skin with Africa and make them have an oblgation to it! what riled me up was not the fact that it was a Jamaican, but what the quote he posted was! unbelievable! his using such layman quotes to build a fake gospel truth. yup!! among other things and we are proud. yes be proud of what you are. one must not aspire for something they have no right to. that is a sign of their inferiority complex. |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by Nobody: 2:16am On Jun 15, 2013 |
PAGAN 9JA: I understand where you are coming from Pagan. But you know there is a reason for all of this. Don't pretend that people who think like him just came from nowhere. In the past Africans may not have used skin color as a basis to claim kinship with one another however recent events such as slavery, racism, and the likes have changed this. Even as a "pro-tribal" person you know that this is the new reality. When you look at me, you won't see a white woman. You won't even know I was jamaican unless I told you..why is that? exactly. skin color and race are both real. I have had Africans who belong to tribes tell me that I "look African" and asked me if I were African (specifically if I were from Kenya). Now if Africans did not recognize that there is a such thing as a "black race" why would they confuse me for being one of them? All I am saying Pagan is you are free to feel how you feel just as he is, but let's not pretend and fight the facts. Yes there are still tribes in Africa with unique histories, cultures and the likes but there is also a black race. How can one define it? well, it's up the the individuals..either way I don't see the need for the insults. yes be proud of what you are. one must not aspire for something they have no right to. that is a sign of their inferiority complex. I get what you are saying. |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by Nobody: 2:48am On Jun 15, 2013 |
Rossikk: See what I'm saying? Get this, you neophyte. What horners were "called" by a few misguided white folk CANNOT determine the meaning of the term negroid. Stop thinking like a slave. It is perfectly okay to reject THEIR intepretation of the term and superimpose YOURS. Are they your superiors, or they have three brains and you one? What the hell is wrong with you? No...You nitwit. My god your idiocy is preventing you from understanding that I am ACTUALLY TRYING HELPING YOU! No one is talking like a slave, but it is you that is talking like a illogical slowpoke that can't even comprehend the argument that we are having. Again no one...REPEAT...No one is separating horners from Africans. But what you fail to understand and what you fail to grasp is that both Negroid and Negro are TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT WORDS. Negroid DOES NOT have nothing to do with skin color, but physical features. Your idiocy is preventing you from understanding the flaws of the word Negroid. Again why do you think Negroid is an OUTDATED TERM! slowpoke you're trying to say I am being an slave to white people or horners, when ITS THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE and I'm again ACTUALLY trying to help you and debunk what those whites back then. Everyone with an IQ over 70 clearly understands what I'm saying. Again Negroid only means PHYSICAL FEATURES! Which is where the 'oid' comes in...Negr-oid, Mongol-oid, Caucas-oid. Seriously trying to educate you is like trying to educate deaf person. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by Nobody: 3:03am On Jun 15, 2013 |
Rossikk: You need to get your sorry behind out of the asss of 19th century racists. For the umpteenth time, take that discredited, archaic, racist interpretation of negroid you borrowed from white racists and stuff it. Again you're just proving time and time again that you're slow, have terrible comprehension skills and probably don't even know what this argument is about as proof with this post. slowpoke I'M THE ONE who TOLD YOU not to use those 19th century terms! Did even bother to even read my post on the Rwandan genocide At all? Here is it again! KidStranglehold: The Hamitic hypothesis affected the policies of European imperial powers in the twentieth century. In Rwanda it was linked to the German and Belgian preferential attitudes to the Tutsis over the Hutu during the colonial period of rule. Some scholars believe this colonial bias was a significant factor contributing to the Rwandan genocide by the Hutus in 1994. ^^^^Now does that post even give the slightest hint that I'm even agreeing with those racist? No its actually the OPPOSITE. Jesus Christ...Are people really this slow on this site? Rossikk:It doesn't matter what it is for YOU or other people. YOU or other people didn't invent the term. Negroid is a physical anthropologist term...You and other people who use the term out of context just proves how uneducated and ignorant you are about the term. Negroid is a race which has been DEBUNKED and is scientifically invalid. Which is why Negroid now only deals with phenotype... Rossikk: Again for the last millionth time Negroid is NOT NEGRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Negro is a skin color, Negroid is a RACE. Which has been debunked and now only means phenotype. [b]Horners DO NOT HAVE NEGROID PHENOTYPES[/b!!!! But yes...They are genetically related to other Africans and are what you may call 'black'. If you truly disagree with European scholars, then you would stop using their terms like negroid and also negro. |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by Nobody: 3:20am On Jun 15, 2013 |
*Kails*: Agreed. |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by UyiIredia(m): 3:36am On Jun 15, 2013 |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by Antivirus92(m): 5:29am On Jun 15, 2013 |
Too many derailers! Try and comment on the topic |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by Rossikk(m): 12:52pm On Jun 15, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: Of course they are two different words. Who said they meant the same thing? Negroid means of visible black African ancestry. Negro means a black person. That's all there is to it. Negroid DOES NOT have nothing to do with skin color, but physical features. Does skin colour not constitute part of one's physical features? Of course it does. Your idiocy is preventing you from understanding the flaws of the word Negroid. Again why do you think Negroid is an OUTDATED TERM! It is not outdated. It remains in use by forensic anthropologists. The only ''flaw'' is in your head. slowpoke you're trying to say I am being an slave to white people or horners, when ITS THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE and I'm again ACTUALLY trying to help you and debunk what those whites back then. Everyone with an IQ over 70 clearly understands what I'm saying. Again Negroid only means PHYSICAL FEATURES! Which is where the 'oid' comes in...Negr-oid, Mongol-oid, Caucas-oid. Seriously trying to educate you is like trying to educate deaf person. What are you on about dude? Negroid means physical features which suggest black African ancestry, correct? So what is the argument about? You are the one saying we should not use the term because some white boy somewhere used the term inappropriately. But the term negroid, used in its simple, honest manner means 'of black' or resembling black.. In fact there is academic suppport for this position: ''The word is formed by the base "Negro" (which means black in Spanish) and the suffix "-oid", which means "resembling" ^ Company, Houghton Mifflin (2005). The American Heritage guide to contemporary usage and style. Houghton Mifflin Company. p. 512. ISBN 0-618-60499-5. ''The term has both Greek and Latin etymological roots. It literally translates as "black resemblance" from negro/niger (black), and -oeidēs, equivalent to -o- -o- + -eidēs having the form of, derivative of eîdos form.'' ^ "Oid | Define Oid at Dictionary.com". Dictionary.reference.com. Retrieved 2012-06-12. Thus negroid would apply to all blacks and as well as all negroid populations, like Australasians and many southern Indians and Bangladeshis. There is no reason to shy away from the term. |
Re: Who Are The Ancient Igbo People? by PAGAN9JA(m): 2:40pm On Jun 15, 2013 |
*Kails*: I agree that things are changed today. there is No pretending otherwise. However lets be clear. it is not so rampant here. we are not racists and we dont want to be. many African youth are today getting influenced all by this black gangster, rap, etc., or whatever. you saw the Woolwhich incident? those are the kind of stuff that I get scared to think will affect my people. we will abandon our tribes/culture and go for this black unity and other racist gay thingz. you get my drift? a cat looks like a baby lion, but do they bite the same? i dont really care for phenotype. i told you. btw the insults were because he started it first. i just wanted to show him I can insult too. also his nagging and lack of ability to understand something no matter how much I repeat, really got on my nerves. |
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