Rossikk:

More wild, lunatic drivel indicating you need to be sectioned in a sanatorium.

PAGAN 9JA:
and anyways, WHY DOES A TRIBELESS HALF-BRED LIKE YOU CARE WHAT WE ARE CALLED

JUST STFU AND LEAVE US TO OUR BUSINESS!

PAGAN 9JA:



that all you are fit to say, you son of a b!tch. you need to be caged in a mental asylum.you need psychopathic treatment with your obsession with skin colour.

Rossikk:

YOU are not a Nigerian. YOU get lost to wherever hole you crept out of. Troll animal claiming Nigeria.

Rossikk:

You are a complete ret'ard with zero knowledge of yourself or the African continent. Go and chuck spears and eat goatshiit, that's all you're good for. Stinking tribalist peabrain.

PAGAN 9JA:


A$$HOLE AMERICAN! LMAO! WHO ARE YOU KIDDING YOU LUNATIC? you go sleep in your gutter you filth. dont use my words on me. YOU ARE THE TROLL HERE! FLOODING THE FORUM WITH STONE STATUES AND CLAIMING DESCENT FROM EGYPTIANS , ASSYRIANS, ARABS, ETC, AND THEN CALLING ME A SLAVE!

PAGAN 9JA:


Your words dont mean anything. I have more knowledge than you which i why I beat you in every argument so far..

Rossikk:

Where did I claim descent from Arabs and Assyrians?? Of course the ancient Egyptians were described by themselves and visitors to their land as blacks, and WERE ancestors of modern black Africans. MANY Nigerian and African scholars like Olumide Lucasa, Aderibigbe, Cheikh Anta Diop as well as western scholars like Bernal, Basil Davidson Chancellor Williams - these are people who are FAR SMARTER THAN YOU, snd HAVE DONE THE RESEARCH unlike your dumb, ignorant thick head, tribalist self. Wehn you getr your head out of the bush and expose yourself to books like tre rest of the civilized world, then you'll sound less like a raving lunatic.

Rossikk:

What knowledge do you have? The other day I asked you for a list of African history books you've read, and you couldn't name a single book. Maybe you buried the books in your 'tribal' hut and forgot to read them in your haste to chuck spears?

PAGAN 9JA:


YOU CLAIMED ASSYRIANS WERE BLACKS! DONT LIE! WHICH MEANS YOU TRIED TO PROVE OUR RELATION TO THEM!
AND EGYPTIANS DID NOT JUST LEAVE EGYPT AND SETTLE IN NIGERIA YOU F00L. THE EGYPTIAN HISTORY IS AS OLD AS THAT OF INDIGENOUS AFRICAN SETTLEMENTS, IF NOT YOUNGER!
IF YOU WANT ME TO QUOTE AUTHORS, I CAN DO THAT TOO! IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE SO IN THIS THREAD. THEY ARE NOT SMARTER THAN ME! THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM AND ME IS THAT THEY HAVE PENNED THEIR WORKS DOWN. YOU ARE AN A$$HOLE. PROVIDE ARGUMENTS HERE OR ELSE SHUT UP! I HAVE ALREADY GRADUATED UNIVERSITY AND I HAVE STUDIED FAR MORE THAN YOU! IVE READ MORE BOOKS THAN YOU! ITS JUST THAT I DONT CONCENTRATE ALL MY BOOK READING ON RACIST MATERIAL. YOUR MOTHER MUST BE LUNATIC.

IF YOU HAVE THE GUTS PUT SOME INFO HERE AND LET US DEBUNK YOU. OR ELSE SHUT THE FCK UP!

Rossikk:

Your mother is a cock sucking prostitute for you to open your stinky trap to call my parents. Your're a filthy dog with no home training. University my asss. You're a high school dropout without the least decorum. Yoiu interject debates with ''shut up there...''. Is that how they taught you to debate in your ''university''? Worthless animal with his head loaded with stinky pig shiit. Of course the first Assyrians were blacks. Even the first Arabs were blacks as were the first Indians and Chinese. It was AFRICANS afterall who migrated out of Africa to populate those places. Research evidence ABOUNDS on this. But because you're extremely stup.id and marrow minded you thonk Africans have omnly sat in their tribal village huts throughout their existence. When they show you books, you refuse to read. Compound dummy.

Rossikk: ^^ sorry... my bad... I think I'll just ignore this tout from hereon out. Not worth the effort.

Red-Light:
why all these dirty insults

Red-Light:
thanks bro
and pagan 9ja please you too should stop
...lets debate like gentlemen. this is not politics section

thanks

PAGAN 9JA:



NO THEY DIDNT YOU MOR.ON! THEY CALLED THEIR OWN ETHNIC GROUPS AS TRIBES AS WELL, LIKE THE CELTIC TRIBES, GAELIC TRIBES, FRANKISH TRIBES, VISIGOTHIC TRIBES, ETC. STOP ACTING LIKE A VICTIM. AND ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS WHAT WE CALL OURSELVES.
TRIBE DOESNT MEAN UNEDUCATED OR CIVILIZED YOU BUGGER. TRIBES ARE USED BY ARABS TO CALL THEMSELVES AS WELL. GO TO UAE, SAUDI ARABIA, ETC. THEY CALL THEMSELVES "KABAEL/KABEELAH" OR TRIBES.
YOU THINK YOU ARE SO EDUCATED. FOR GODSS SAKE YOU DONT EVEN KNOW BASIC HISTORY AND I HAD TO TEACH YOU. WHAT A FAGGIT!
YOU STAY IN YOUR OWN CAGE! WE ARE FREE TRIBESMEN! YOU HAVE SERIOUS SLAVE MENTALITY! GO LICK YOUR MASTER BOOT!

Rossikk:

Your mother is a coc.k sucking prostitute for you to open your stinky trap to call my parents. You're a filthy dog with no home training. University my asss. You're a high school dropout without the least decorum. You interject debates with ''shut up there...''. Is that how they taught you to debate in your ''university''? Worthless animal with his head loaded with stinky pig shiit. Of course the first Assyrians were blacks. Even the first Arabs were blacks as were the first Indians and Chinese. The first EUROPEANS were blacks. It was AFRICANS afterall who migrated out of Africa to populate those places. Research evidence ABOUNDS on this. But because you're extremely stup.id and narrow minded you think Africans have only sat in their 'tribal village huts' throughout their existence. Any suggestion that they were learned, dynamic people who ventured out of their huts and villages is met by ANGER by you. When they show you books to read, you refuse to read. Compound dunce. Don't ever claim to be Nigerian here. Nigerians are intelligent folks who love learning. You are a thick-skulled dinosaur who hates to learn anything new.

PAGAN 9JA:


YOur mother is a street side prostitute and your father is a dirty gigolo who suck his own cock. you lunatic akata filth. yes your a$$ must be a university for p.ornographic classes. go back to your p.ornographic videos. you are not fit for any argument so now you have forced me to come to your level. Your head must be filled with pig shYT. THE FIRST ASSYRIANS WERE NOT BLACK! WHAT DO YOU MEAN OFCOURSE! HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE ASSYRIA IS?
BLACK IS PHENOTYPE! DO YOU KNOW WHAT BULLSHYT YOU ARE TAKING? DO YOU KNOW WHAT EXACT SHADE OF BLACK THEY WERE? WHERE YOU ALIVE BACK THEN?!

GREAT! CONGRATULATIONS! EVERYONE CLAP FOR THIS MENTAL ASYLUM DROPOUT! SO NOW FIRST "ÄRABS" , "INDIANS" ( the b.astard doesnt know that there is no such ethnic group as INDIAN) and "CHINESE" were BLACKS. wow you are the best. you should deserve noble price!

YOU GET YOUR DATES RIGHT! YOU TALKED ABOUT CHINESE (i.e., PEOPLE LIVING IN CHINA) THEY WERE NOT BLACK. EITHER TALK ABOUT A SPECIFIC TIME PERIOD OF MIGRATIONS WITHIN AFRICA OR ON MAINLAND ASIA!

I WILL TELL YOU THAT CHINESE WERE APES! NOW WHAT? THIS IS HOW YOU ARE TALKING TO ME WITHOUT REFERANCE TO A DATE! EVERYONE WAS A MICRORGANISM, YOU KNOW THAT?!

RESEARCH EVIDENCE MY FOOT! YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO USE THESE EVIDENCE! STOP CONFUSING THE DATES!


SO WHATS YOUR POINT IN THE END? EVERYONE IN THIS WORLD WAS APES! DOES THAT MAKE YOU A BIG ACHIEVER NOW


calling me narrow minded! LOOK AT YOUR OWN EMPTY EGG HEAD FIRST! THEN TALK.

Red-Light:
why all these dirty insults

PAGAN 9JA:

those jamaicans are 24/7 high on marijuana.

btw thos black caribs are heavily mixed with Native Carib Indians. so please stfu. they are JAmaicans today.

*Kails*:


lol you do know the HINDUS introduced Marijuana to Jamaicans right?
You're a pro-pagan man yet making fun of a pagan practice? lol


I know these things get you riled up but take it easy...esp. when talking about JA.

yup!! among other things and we are proud.

PAGAN 9JA:


where did I make fun? I just said the truth. did you see the quote he posted? Tell me Kails, does that make sense?

he is trying to attach anyone with dark skin with Africa and make them have an oblgation to it!

what riled me up was not the fact that it was a Jamaican, but what the quote he posted was! unbelievable! his using such layman quotes to build a fake gospel truth.

yes be proud of what you are. one must not aspire for something they have no right to. that is a sign of their inferiority complex.

Rossikk: See what I'm saying? Get this, you neophyte. What horners were "called" by a few misguided white folk CANNOT determine the meaning of the term negroid. Stop thinking like a slave. It is perfectly okay to reject THEIR intepretation of the term and superimpose YOURS. Are they your superiors, or they have three brains and you one? What the hell is wrong with you?

Rossikk: You need to get your sorry behind out of the asss of 19th century racists. For the umpteenth time, take that discredited, archaic, racist interpretation of negroid you borrowed from white racists and stuff it.

KidStranglehold: The Hamitic hypothesis affected the policies of European imperial powers in the twentieth century. In Rwanda it was linked to the German and Belgian preferential attitudes to the Tutsis over the Hutu during the colonial period of rule. Some scholars believe this colonial bias was a significant factor contributing to the Rwandan genocide by the Hutus in 1994.
The League of Nations Mandate of 1916 appointed Belgium to govern Rwanda after Germany's defeat in World War I; Philip Gourevitch claims that “the terms Hutu and Tutsi had become clearly defined opposing “ethnic” identities, and the Belgians made this polarization the cornerstone of their colonial policy.”[13] Belgian officials measured numerous Rwandans to define traits among the various tribes; they used the differences to justify the Tutsis' majority of control throughout the country.
They defined racial differences between the Tutsi and Hutu peoples, differences which would impose a wholly inflexible ceiling on those classified as Hutu, rather than one that varied with social status.
Scholars such as Mahmood Mamdani suggested that the Hutu began to view the Tutsi as outside invaders to their land, as "aliens" and usurpers, and that this led, in the end, to genocide. He states that reforms of local government by the Belgian colonial rulers in the 1920s led to a situation in which the Hutus "were not ruled by their own chiefs but by Tutsi chiefs. The same reforms constructed the Tutsi into a different race: the Hamitic race." A major contributing force to the animosity between Hutu and Tutsi is derived from Spekes’ “Hamitic hypothesis”. Namely the notion that since the Tutsi were considered the Hamitic race, "the Hutu could frame the Tutsis as foreign invaders, as by definition, the Hamitic race is synonymous with a settling identity."
Following World War II, Belgium’s colonial administration had been placed under United Nations trusteeship; it was to prepare Rwanda for eventual independence as a self-governing nation. Hutu political activists emerged in great numbers and exploited this as an opportunity to rally the masses to unite in their "Hutuness," as this was their chance to finally gain power after decades of oppression.[13] This philosophy, coupled with other political incidents, led to the social revolution of 1959 when Hutus killed ten thousand Tutsis, predominantly those within the political structure, and displaced thousands more from their homes. What followed was essentially a racial and ethnic hierarchy similar in most respects to that of one year prior; however, the roles were simply reversed – Hutu dominated the institutions and established discrimination against Tutsi in education, the civil service and armed forces.
This creation of an artificial racial caste was unique to Rwanda and Burundi. While other ethnic groups outside Rwanda, such as the Bahima, were also identified by Europeans as "Hamites", they were not given institutionalised superior status. "Only in Rwanda and Burundi did the Hamitic hypothesis become the basis of a series of institutional changes that fixed the Tutsi as a race in their relationship to the colonial state."
Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamitic#Rwanda_and_Burundi

For all you clueless people who don't know, 'Hamite' people were a part of the larger CAUCASOID RACE!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race#Classification

Hamites(Horners, Tutsi,etc) were deemed 'black' skinned Caucasoid! Why do you think the Europeans gave the Tutsi's higher power if they were 'Negroid'

Again this...


Was deemed superior to this...


Because the former was closer to this...


Get the picture? This isn't rocket science. But genetics has debunked all of this.

Rossikk:
For US, a negroid is a person with traceable Negro ancestry and/or Negro features, of which dark skin is but one element.

Rossikk:
Somalis, Ethiopians are blacks. They are negroes, therefore they are negroid. FULL STOP. We KNOW there are all sorts of disputes among European scholars regarding these definitions. That is NONE of OUR business. We tell THEM who WE are. Not the other way round.

*Kails*:


lol you do know the HINDUS introduced Marijuana to Jamaicans right?
You're a pro-pagan man yet making fun of a pagan practice? lol







I know these things get you riled up but take it easy...esp. when talking about JA.



yup!! among other things and we are proud.

KidStranglehold:
But what you fail to understand and what you fail to grasp is that both Negroid and Negro are TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT WORDS.

Negroid DOES NOT have nothing to do with skin color, but physical features.

Your idiocy is preventing you from understanding the flaws of the word Negroid. Again why do you think Negroid is an OUTDATED TERM!

slowpoke you're trying to say I am being an slave to white people or horners, when ITS THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE and I'm again ACTUALLY trying to help you and debunk what those whites back then. Everyone with an IQ over 70 clearly understands what I'm saying. Again Negroid only means PHYSICAL FEATURES! Which is where the 'oid' comes in...Negr-oid, Mongol-oid, Caucas-oid. Seriously trying to educate you is like trying to educate deaf person.

*Kails*:


I understand where you are coming from Pagan.

But you know there is a reason for all of this. Don't pretend that people who think like him just came from nowhere. In the past Africans may not have used skin color as a basis to claim kinship with one another however recent events such as slavery, racism, and the likes have changed this.

Even as a "pro-tribal" person you know that this is the new reality. When you look at me, you won't see a white woman. You won't even know I was jamaican unless I told you..why is that?

exactly. skin color and race are both real.

I have had Africans who belong to tribes tell me that I "look African" and asked me if I were African (specifically if I were from Kenya). Now if Africans did not recognize that there is a such thing as a "black race" why would they confuse me for being one of them?

All I am saying Pagan is you are free to feel how you feel just as he is, but let's not pretend and fight the facts. Yes there are still tribes in Africa with unique histories, cultures and the likes but there is also a black race. How can one define it? well, it's up the the individuals..either way I don't see the need for the insults.



I get what you are saying.