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We're Going To War - SA troops heading to CAR by khukhi(f): 5:09pm On May 13, 2013
We're going to war-As South African troops prepare for deployment to the violence-racked east of the Democratic Republic of Congo, the enemy is gearing up for full-scale war.

A 1000-strong South African contingent is expected to be deployed to the region within a month as part of an African intervention force. It will almost certainly be drawn into conflict with the heavily armed and battle-hardened M23 rebel group after the collapse of peace talks between the rebels and the central government in Kinshasa.

One of 33 rebel groups in the region, the M23 has 40t of munitions looted from DRC army armouries in clashes in the east of the country last year.

The M23 routed DRC government forces in November in a fight for the capital of the country's eastern region, Goma, where South African peacekeepers were deployed. In the battle for Goma, South African soldiers were caught by surprise and the M23 forces - whose officers have over 20 years of jungle combat experience - were able to take the town within days.

Reported to have access to T55 and T72 Soviet-era tanks, and armed with anti-tank and surface-to-air missiles, anti-aircraft guns, heavy machine guns, armoured vehicles and rocket-propelled grenades, the M23's 5500-strong force is in the final stages of preparing for war.

The rebels have upped their propaganda war against the South Africans since warning President Jacob Zuma last month of a "catastrophic and apocalyptic" response if the SANDF engaged them.

The group has since revealed that it plans to kidnap SANDF troops to force South Africa to about-turn on the deployment.

The rebels are said to be backed by Rwandan and Ugandan military advisers and special forces, a claim both countries deny.

In March, the UN Security Council authorised the deployment of a 3000-man intervention force to the DRC to work alongside 17000 UN peacekeepers. The intervention force, which will comprise South African, Malawian and Tanzanian troops, is expected to arrive in the DRC within a month.

As opposed to the peacekeeping force, the new intervention force's mandate will see troops being able to engage rebel forces regardless of provocation in order to bring stability to the region.

Two months ago 13 South African paratroops were killed in the battle for the Central African Republic's capital, Bangui.

South Africa's most serious military disadvantages in that battle were lack of air support and poor intelligence - the same situation now faced by the troops destined for the DRC.

The SANDF has limited heavy-lift air transport capability, its Rooivalk attack helicopters' Makopa anti-tank missiles are not yet certified, and it is most unlikely that the air force's Gripen fighter jets will be deployed to the DRC. Knowing all this, South African soldiers are gravely concerned about the impending battle.

An army officer, who has knowledge of the mission's planning, said: "We train and fight hard. We know our job and are capable, but with little air support, this fight is difficult. We learned good lessons in CAR but, make no mistake, this will not be easy.

"The M23 are well-armed and have good intelligence. They will not fight conventionally. It will be guerrilla-style attacks preying on our weaknesses, and our lack of cohesion and joint training with the other forces."

SANDF spokesman Brigadier-General Xolani Mabanga declined to comment other than to say: "We are awaiting the UN's force deployment orders."

Defence analyst Helmoed Heitman said: "The M23 are not a bunch of ragtag rebels. They are superior in their jungle-fighting capabilities with backing from neighbouring countries [that are] running proxy military forces in the region.

''Our biggest problem is lack of air capabilities. We have the Rooivalk attack helicopter and Oryx troop-carrying helicopters, but we have no proper heavy-lift transport aircraft to get our equipment and troops in and out safely.

"The Rooivalk's anti-tank missile is not certified, meaning it will have to get dangerously close to the enemy for its rockets to be effective.

"We are taking our long-range G5 cannon and various armoured vehicles but these vehicles will not withstand the M23's fire-power. Their 37mm anti-aircraft guns are lethal both to air and ground targets and they have the support of tanks and special forces."

Heitman said major hindrances included the lack of intelligence. "Our defence intelligence is what got us into trouble in CAR.

"Added to this is the UN's view that this is just another peacekeeping mission. Instead of additional forces, they divided the current peacekeeping force, transferring the South African brigade to the intervention force and creating a vacuum for the rebels to capitalise on. This is not peacekeeping. It will be aggressive counter-guerrilla warfare in which people, including civilians, will die. You need numbers that are not there to bring about peace."

Heitman said the M23 rebels knew the SANDF's capabilities.

"They will not pick on us. They will pick on the possible weak links - Malawi and Tanzania - who have little battle experience. They will harass, divide and conquer." He added: "They have the strong possibility of tank and special forces support."

Maria Langer, DRC country manager for International Alert - a UK "peace-building" NGO - described the security situation as critical.

"The M23 have regrouped into key areas and are recruiting civilians for the war. They are 5km from Goma and are poised to take the town.

"Not only are the M23 around, but so are 30 other rebel groups."

Langer said: "The intervention force was designed to be a persuasive and preventative force but the DRC government sees it as a military solution."

Written by GRAEME HOSKEN for Timeslive | 13 May, 2013

http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/?articleId=9054737

Re: We're Going To War - SA troops heading to CAR by Nobody: 5:29pm On May 13, 2013
We know what happened to the Congo when the combined forces of Uganda, Zimbabwe and Rwanda assumed the role of occupiers not so long ago.

We are monitoring events closely, as it remains to be seen if South Africa's intervention in the CAR is borne of humanitarian concerns or an overriding desire to protect her business interests...

There is much speculation over why South African President Jacob Zuma deployed his forces to support the CAR's clearly failing and dictatorial government. The theory picking up the most steam is that both the ANC and a number of its individual members have private mineral and natural resource interests in the CAR that they wish to protect. There are many South African companies exploiting the oil the CAR has to offer, with most of them linked to powerful political figures in South Africa and arguably fueling the coffers that drive the ANC's political machine.

One such company is DIG Oil, a company prospecting in the southeast of the CAR. Zuma's nephew sits on the board of DIG Oil—something that suggests Zuma might have more than a passing business interest in the company. It also suggests—if you're a fan of linking pretty blatant points—that Zuma may well be using the South African military as a private security service to protect his and his cronies' international business interests.

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Re: We're Going To War - SA troops heading to CAR by khukhi(f): 6:21pm On May 13, 2013
SA deployed the soldiers for whatever reason,whether it be for the presidents personal interests or not,the soldiers were deployed to assist the CAR government.

Rebel attacks such as this one,should nolonger be happening in 2013 for goodness sake!What happened to diplomatic resolution before rebels start tearing apart a country.

I am glad our countries are assisting that government. I hope the conflict will be resolved before too many civillians and soldiers lives are lost.

It is clear that they will need as much assistance as possible.
Re: We're Going To War - SA troops heading to CAR by Rossikk(m): 6:32pm On May 13, 2013
khukhi: SA deployed the soldiers for whatever reason,whether it be for the presidents personal interests or not,the soldiers were deployed to assist the CAR government.

Rebel attacks such as this one,should nolonger be happening in 2013 for goodness sake!What happened to diplomatic resolution before rebels start tearing apart a country.

Anywhere you see ''rebels'' operating in ANY country, know that they have foreign sponsors.
Re: We're Going To War - SA troops heading to CAR by Nobody: 6:55pm On May 13, 2013
khukhi: SA deployed the soldiers for whatever reason,whether it be for the presidents personal interests or not,the soldiers were deployed to assist the CAR government.

Rebel attacks such as this one,should nolonger be happening in 2013 for goodness sake!What happened to diplomatic resolution before rebels start tearing apart a country.

I am glad our countries are assisting that government. I hope the conflict will be resolved before too many civillians and soldiers lives are lost.

It is clear that they will need as much assistance as possible.

So it is okay for the SADF to go in guns blazing even if the sole intention is to restore power to a sit-tight coupist-turn-democrat like Bozizé, whose unpopularity has been growing in recent years, simply to protect business interests?

Better to ponder over what is really at play here, before we mount our moral soapboxes, I think...


Human Skeletons Found in House of Fugitive African President Francois Bozize




Looters have dug up two human skeletons under the garage of an abandoned home owned by fugitive Central African Republic President Francois Bozize.

Bozize, who came to power on the back of a military coup in 2003, fled the country last month after rebels from the Seleka coalition seized control of CAR's capital of Bangui.

Rebel Colonel Ali Garba told AFP that the looters were looking for diamonds or gold at the property on the outskirts of the Bangui, which was abandoned by Bozize when he ansconded.

"I saw them. They were bones with no flesh. The people had been dead for a while, at least several months, maybe more," Garba told the news agency.

Garba said the skeletons were taken away by the Red Cross, together with the body of a presidential guard that was also found at Bozize's house. CAR Authorities said they will look into the matter.

Meanwhile speculation on the identities of the two dead people is mounting.

Some say it is possible the two were political opponents to Bozize's regime, while others suggested the pair were victims of a ritual murder.

Killings for witchcraft rituals, designed to empower or bring good fortune, are known to happen in central Africa.

The house, one of many owned by Bozize across the country, was said to be the residence of the ex-president's wife Monique
.

Led by self-anointed head of state Michel Djotodia, Seleka rebels carried out a coup against Bozize at the end of March, claiming he had not honoured a previous peace agreement that brought factions into the army in 2007.

The coup triggered an international outcry. More than two weeks from the military power takeover, UN envoy to CAR Margaret Vogt said that political and security situation in the country "remains highly, highly volatile."

She added that "the Seleka elements do not appear to be operating in a cohesive fashion" and that the humanitarian situation "is extremely dire" because of insecurity and the looting of stocks of food and other humanitarian items.

"Leaders who are supposed to run this government are not in a position to return to their homes because they fear for their lives or because their homes are completely looted," Vogt said.

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Re: We're Going To War - SA troops heading to CAR by solomon111(m): 7:07pm On May 13, 2013
They would be disgraced again.
Re: We're Going To War - SA troops heading to CAR by Nobody: 8:19pm On May 13, 2013
SA , should go and sleep, what's dia problem self? I think dem jam force foe CAR, beging beg rebels mek them allow dem pass go airport , go back dia house? I don't know why dem no go rest.
Rebellion doesn't just start in a dday, it usually comes from yrs of injustice, like d case of liberia, its similar to DRG, dia resources being hrnessed by d govt. N d original owners re left to rust! It spans from large injustice, n dats wats ravishing african nations.
When God blessings turns curse

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