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Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by donem: 7:28am On May 19, 2013 |
I have been disturb by this thought for a while, having come out of the mouth of Jesus himself he said and i quote "And again i say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a RICH man to enter into the kingdom of God" (Mathew 19:24) fellow rich/potential rich nairalanders whats your take on this? |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by Nobody: 9:45am On May 19, 2013 |
donem: I have been disturb by this thought for a while, having come out of the mouth of Jesus himself he said and i quote "And again i say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a RICH man to enter into the kingdom of God" (Mathew 19:24) fellow rich/potential rich nairalanders whats your take on this?LET ME BREAK IT DOWN TO YOU LIKE THIS. THIS IS HOW THW WORLD IS SUPPOSED TO WORK. EVERYONE HAS HIS OWN LAND, WIFE WHO DOES THE CLOTHES AND COOKING AND TEACHING THE KIDS, THE MAN DOES THE FARMING AND THEN IN THE COMMUNITY, WHATEVER YOU MAKE IN EXCESS, YOU BARTER WITH WHOSE WHO MAKE WHAT YOU WANT. SAY FOR EXAMPLE YOUR NEIGHBOR MAKES SOAP AND YOU MAKE WINE. YOU EXCHANGE WINE FOR SOAP. THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD RETURN TO IN THE SECOND COMING. A SELF CONTAINED UNIT EXISTING IN A COMMUNITY. EVERYONE HAS A PURPOSE IN LIFE AND THAT IS TO LIVE LIFE. HOWEVER WHEN THE FOURTH BEAST CAME IN POWER, THEY BROUGHT IN THEIR EPHAH OF WICKEDNESS CALLED CAPITALISM. WHAT THIS IS IS TAKE ALL THESE JOBS AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE AND RENDER PEOPLE IMPOTENT AND PURPOSELESS, BY MANUFACTURING EVERYTHING THEMSELVES SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE ALL THE MONEY FOR THEMSELVES. ITS A SYSTEM OF GREED AND COVETOUSNESS ESTABLISHED BY THE ROMAN EMPIRE. THIS IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST. SO IF YOU HAVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST YOU ARE NOT MAKING IT.YOU WILL BE KILLED IN NUKES FIRE. BY YOU BEING RICH, OTHER PEOPLE ARE DEPRIVED. ITS PART OF THE MARK OF THE BEAST. NOW IN NO WAY AM I ADVOCATING POVERTY BUT THERE IS A FINE LINE YOU SHOULD NOT CROSS. ONCE YOU CROSS THAT LINE, YOU HAVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST AND DESTRUCTION IS YOUR FUTURE AND IT IS COMING REAL SOON TO A CITY NEAR YOU 1 Like |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by odumson: 10:17am On May 19, 2013 |
God(Allah) is not a biased One and so do not make Heaven only for the poor. He gives equal opportunity to all who wants to attain it by worshiping Him alone,so be it a poor or rich man, as far as you worship God sincerely, you will enter Heaven through His mercy. Hence, Heaven is not meant for either the poor or the rich alone but for the true worshipers of God. It is just that the poor worship God more as they dedicate more time and are more sincere in worship to God and any rich man that does that will also be in Heaven; also a poor man who do not worship God will not enter the Heaven. |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by Nobody: 10:24am On May 19, 2013 |
odumson: God(Allah) is not a biased One and so do not make Heaven only for the poor. He gives equal opportunity to all who wants to attain it by worshiping Him alone,so be it a poor or rich man, as far as you worship God sincerely, you will enter Heaven through His mercy. Hence, Heaven is not meant for either the poor or the rich alone but for the true worshipers of God. It is just that the poor worship God more as they dedicate more time and are more sincere in worship to God and any rich man that does that will also be in Heaven; also a poor man who do not worship God will not enter the Heaven.WRONG. ENJOY NOW AND PAY LATER OR PAY NOW AND ENJOY LATER. THATS HOW IT WORKS. IF YOU ARE RICH AND YOU FIND GOD ? YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DISTRIBUTE YOUR WEALTH TO THE POOR. YOU THINK YOU WILL BE SITTING ON BILLIONS OR HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS AND YOU WILL MAKE HEAVEN JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU WORSHIP GOD ? WORSHIPPING GOD IS IN DEEDS NOT IN MOUTH AND THE LORD REUIRES YOU TO DISTRIBUTE YOUR MONEY TO THE POOR IF YOU ARE STINKING RICH. NO STINKING RICH MAN IS GOING INTO HEAVEN. AND I CAN PUT MONEY ON THAT 1 Like |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by MostHigh: 11:21am On May 19, 2013 |
obadiah777: WRONG. ENJOY NOW AND PAY LATER OR PAY NOW AND ENJOY LATER. THATS HOW IT WORKS. IF YOU ARE RICH AND YOU FIND GOD ? YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DISTRIBUTE YOUR WEALTH TO THE POOR. YOU THINK YOU WILL BE SITTING ON BILLIONS OR HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS AND YOU WILL MAKE HEAVEN JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU WORSHIP GOD ? WORSHIPPING GOD IS IN DEEDS NOT IN MOUTH AND THE LORD REUIRES YOU TO DISTRIBUTE YOUR MONEY TO THE POOR IF YOU ARE STINKING RICH. NO STINKING RICH MAN IS GOING INTO HEAVEN. AND I CAN PUT MONEY ON THAT It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Say on brother Obadiah Ain Soph Aur. 1 Like |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by MostHigh: 11:24am On May 19, 2013 |
obadiah777: LET ME BREAK IT DOWN TO YOU LIKE THIS. THIS IS HOW THW WORLD IS SUPPOSED TO WORK. EVERYONE HAS HIS OWN LAND, WIFE WHO DOES THE CLOTHES AND COOKING AND TEACHING THE KIDS, THE MAN DOES THE FARMING AND THEN IN THE COMMUNITY, WHATEVER YOU MAKE IN EXCESS, YOU BARTER WITH WHOSE WHO MAKE WHAT YOU WANT. SAY FOR EXAMPLE YOUR NEIGHBOR MAKES SOAP AND YOU MAKE WINE. YOU EXCHANGE WINE FOR SOAP. THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD RETURN TO IN THE SECOND COMING. A SELF CONTAINED UNIT EXISTING IN A COMMUNITY. EVERYONE HAS A PURPOSE IN LIFE AND THAT IS TO LIVE LIFE. HOWEVER WHEN THE FOURTH BEAST CAME IN POWER, THEY BROUGHT IN THEIR EPHAH OF WICKEDNESS CALLED CAPITALISM. WHAT THIS IS IS TAKE ALL THESE JOBS AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE AND RENDER PEOPLE IMPOTENT AND PURPOSELESS, BY MANUFACTURING EVERYTHING THEMSELVES SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE ALL THE MONEY FOR THEMSELVES. ITS A SYSTEM OF GREED AND COVETOUSNESS ESTABLISHED BY THE ROMAN EMPIRE. THIS IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST. SO IF YOU HAVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST YOU ARE NOT MAKING IT.YOU WILL BE KILLED IN NUKES FIRE. BY YOU BEING RICH, OTHER PEOPLE ARE DEPRIVED. ITS PART OF THE MARK OF THE BEAST. NOW IN NO WAY AM I ADVOCATING POVERTY BUT THERE IS A FINE LINE YOU SHOULD NOT CROSS. ONCE YOU CROSS THAT LINE, YOU HAVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST AND DESTRUCTION IS YOUR FUTURE AND IT IS COMING REAL SOON TO A CITY NEAR YOU On point Sire. Judgement. 1 Like |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by Nobody: 11:46am On May 19, 2013 |
MostHigh:EXACTLY BROTHER. THESE PEOPLE THINK WHEN SCRIPTURE SAYS IT IS EASIER FOR A CAMEL TO PASS THROUGH THE EYE OF A NEEDLE THAN FOR A RICH MAN TO MAKE HEAVEN, THEY THINK IT IS BECAUSE THE RICH MAN HAS SO MUCH WEALTH SO HE WOULD BE DISTRACTED FROM WORSHIPPING GOD. WELL THATS ONE OF THE REASONS BUT NOT THE MAJOR REASON FOR THAT VERSE. THE MAJOR REASON FOR THAT VERSE IS BECAUSE FOR THE RICH MAN TO MAKE HEAVEN HE HAS TO DISTRIBUTE TO THE POOR, NOW HOW MANY RICH MEN ARE WILLING TO DO THAT ? THATS WHY IT IS HARD FOR A RICH MAN TO MAKE HEAVEN. TOP OF THE MORNING TO YOU SIRE |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by okeyxyz(m): 11:55am On May 19, 2013 |
obadiah777: chei!!! @obadiah at his best And of course @Mosthigh(obadiah2) agrees. |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by Nobody: 12:07pm On May 19, 2013 |
okeyxyz:WE ARE THE SAME PERSON. THE SAME HOLY SPIRIT IS IN US THATS WHY WE SPEAK IN UNIFORMITY. 1 TIMOTHY 6 VS 18 That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute <<< INSTRUCTION TO THE RICH. DISTRIBUTE TO THE POOR. LUKE 18 VS 22 When Jesus heard his answer, he said, "There is still one thing you haven't done. Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." <<< INSTRUCTION TO THE RICH. DISTRIBUTE TO THE POOR IN THE WITNESS OF TWO IS A STATEMENT ESTABLISHED ( LUKE AND TIMOTHY ) |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by AtheistD(m): 12:11pm On May 19, 2013 |
So what about all those millionaire pastors? I thought they were guaranteed a slot in heaven? The way they preach prosperity I bet all rich folks who go to their church and give tithe of 40% are guaranteed a slot in heaven. |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by Nobody: 12:14pm On May 19, 2013 |
Atheist:-D:ALL THOSE PEOPLE WILL SOON BE DESTROYED. 2 PETER 2 VS 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. 2 PETER 2 VS 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by okeyxyz(m): 12:15pm On May 19, 2013 |
@Obadiah, the way you destroy doctrine, If only you could tackle @logicboy & co in same manner there'd be few or no atheists left on nairaland, or at least they'd demand their own separate section. |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by Nobody: 12:18pm On May 19, 2013 |
okeyxyz: @Obadiah, the way you destroy doctrine, If only you could tackle @logicboy & co in same manner there'd be few or no atheists left on nairaland, or at least they'd demand their own separate section.1 CORINTHIANS 1 VS 18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but it is God's power to us who are being saved.. <<< THATS YOU OKEYXYZ. TAKE A BOW AND TACKLING ATHEISTS IS A FRUITLESS VENTURE. SCRIPTURE SAYS IF YOU GIVE THEM THE MESSAGE AND THEY FORBEAR, WIPE YOUR SHOES ON THEIR DOORMAT AND KEEP IT MOVING. I WILL LEAVE SUCH POINTLESS VENTURES TO MR ANONY AND IHEDINOBI. I ONLY PARTAKE IN THAT WHEN I AM BORED AND NEED SOME FUN, BUT NEVER TO PROVE A POINT OR CONVERT THEM. |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by MostHigh: 1:49pm On May 19, 2013 |
obadiah777: EXACTLY BROTHER. THESE PEOPLE THINK WHEN SCRIPTURE SAYS IT IS EASIER FOR A CAMEL TO PASS THROUGH THE EYE OF A NEEDLE THAN FOR A RICH MAN TO MAKE HEAVEN, THEY THINK IT IS BECAUSE THE RICH MAN HAS SO MUCH WEALTH SO HE WOULD BE DISTRACTED FROM WORSHIPPING GOD. WELL THATS ONE OF THE REASONS BUT NOT THE MAJOR REASON FOR THAT VERSE. THE MAJOR REASON FOR THAT VERSE IS BECAUSE FOR THE RICH MAN TO MAKE HEAVEN HE HAS TO DISTRIBUTE TO THE POOR, NOW HOW MANY RICH MEN ARE WILLING TO DO THAT ? THATS WHY IT IS HARD FOR A RICH MAN TO MAKE HEAVEN. TOP OF THE MORNING TO YOU SIRE Morning to you too Sire. The root of capitalism is greed, and no covetous heart gonna make this coming kingdom. More light Saii. |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by anukulapo: 2:08pm On May 19, 2013 |
okeyxyz: @Obadiah, the way you destroy doctrine, If only you could tackle @logicboy & co in same manner there'd be few or no atheists left on nairaland, or at least they'd demand their own separate section. Separate section no go work for atheist o. There existence is dependent on the fact that "there is a God"...if you pull them out of the christian section,they won't be in existence anymore. LOL Make I even go check islam section to go see watin the atheists dem dey do. Abi na only christian God dem dey say no exist |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by AtheistD(m): 2:16pm On May 19, 2013 |
obadiah777: ALL THOSE PEOPLE WILL SOON BE DESTROYED. 2 PETER 2 VS 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. Hmm... So no Adeboye in heaven? Interesting. anukulapo: Precisely. We like exposing the false truths or rather... lies that religions throw about. By the way it is you christians that are crying like babies for your own section obadiah777: 1 CORINTHIANS 1 VS 18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but it is God's power to us who are being saved.. <<< THATS YOU OKEYXYZ. TAKE A BOW Obadiah is smart. He knows his esoteric nonsense would be perfect cannon fodder for us atheists so he keeps a low profile . Just like the heaven topic I created that exposed his somewhat wildly divergent beliefs compared to cannonical christianity. 1 Like |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by MostHigh: 3:31pm On May 19, 2013 |
obadiah777: WE ARE THE SAME PERSON. THE SAME HOLY SPIRIT IS IN US THATS WHY WE SPEAK IN UNIFORMITY. Hear O Israel the Lord our God the Lord is One. The elect are all of one spirit, one destiny. Iron Sharpneth Iron. 1 Like |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by okeyxyz(m): 5:58pm On May 19, 2013 |
MostHigh: Nice!!! I am impressed that you know that "God is One" means one spirit, At least that's what i think you are saying. So +1000 likes for you there. But for your obadiah doctrines I take them back, safe 1. So -990 likes 1 Like |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by Nobody: 12:33am On May 20, 2013 |
Atheist:-D:CANNON FODDER FOR ATHEISTS ? LMAO. I AM GROUNDED IN THIS. SOLID AS A ROCK. I HAVE BATTLED ALMOST ALL THE ATHEISTS ON THIS FORUM IN MY FRESHMAN YEAR ON NAIRALAND AND NEEDLESS TO SAY THEY WERE ALL SLICED DICED AND DECAPITATED WITH THAT TWO EDGED SWORD. IN FACT ALL YOUR ATHEISTS MAKE IT A POINT TO AVOID ME CUZ THEY KNOW I AM SURGICAL WITH THIS SWORD. I SUFFER NOT AN ATHEIST TO LIVE. IN FACT IT IS MY DUTY TO PUT ATHEISTS TO SLEEP SO AS TO PRESERVE OXYGEN FOR THOSE WHO ARE ALIVE, THE SAINTS THAT IS. ASK YOUR ROMAN CATHOLIC CABIN BISCUIT EATING LEADER LOGICBOY HOW I PUT HIM TO SLEEP WITH ONE OF THOSE SPIRITUAL HEIMLICH MANEURVER 1 Like |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by Nobody: 12:36am On May 20, 2013 |
okeyxyz:IT AINT MY DOCTRINE. I AM BUT A VESSEL. A CONDUIT, IF YOU WILL. ALL PRAISES AND KNOWLEDGE BELONG TO YAH. |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by donem: 7:19am On May 20, 2013 |
obadiah777: IT AINT MY DOCTRINE. I AM BUT A VESSEL. A CONDUIT, IF YOU WILL. ALL PRAISES AND KNOWLEDGE BELONG TO YAH.Obadiah777 am so impressed by majority of your writeups, if i might ask are you a Prophet? 2 Likes |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by Nobody: 9:39am On May 20, 2013 |
donem:HELLO CHIEF DONEM. TOP OF THE MORNING TO YOU SIR. YES I AM A PROPHET. NOT THE TB JOSHUA TYPE OF PROPHET. I DONT OPERATE FROM A BUILDING CALLED A CHURCH. MY BODY IS THE CHURCH AND MY HOLY SPIRIT IS THE PREACHER. AND BEING A PROPHET IS THE TESTIMONY OF CHRIST IN YOUR LIFE. REVELATION 19 VS 10 the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. SO WE ARE ALL PROPHETS IF WE ARE GENUINELY IN THIS TRUTH. 1 Like |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by MostHigh: 9:41am On May 20, 2013 |
obadiah777: IT AINT MY DOCTRINE. I AM BUT A VESSEL. A CONDUIT, IF YOU WILL. ALL PRAISES AND KNOWLEDGE BELONG TO YAH. All praises Sire. 1 Like |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by MostHigh: 9:43am On May 20, 2013 |
obadiah777: HELLO CHIEF DONEM. TOP OF THE MORNING TO YOU SIR. YES I AM A PROPHET. NOT THE TB JOSHUA TYPE OF PROPHET. I DONT OPERATE FROM A BUILDING CALLED A CHURCH. MY BODY IS THE CHURCH AND MY HOLY SPIRIT IS THE PREACHER. AND BEING A PROPHET IS THE TESTIMONY OF CHRIST IN YOUR LIFE. REVELATION 19 VS 10 the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. SO WE ARE ALL PROPHETS IF WE ARE GENUINELY IN THIS TRUTH. The spirit of Yashua is the spirit of prophecy. |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by Nobody: 9:49am On May 20, 2013 |
MostHigh:INDEED BROTHER MOSTHIGH. TOP OF THE MORNING TO YOU SIRE |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by Nobody: 9:50am On May 20, 2013 |
MostHigh:DITTO |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by MostHigh: 3:12pm On May 20, 2013 |
okeyxyz: obadiah HAS NO DOCTRINE OF HIS OWN, SAVE FOR WHAT HE RECIEVES FROM THE RAOCH QOUDESH. IF YOU KNOW THE MOST HIGH GOD THEN YOU CAN COMPREHEND THE WORDS OF OBADIAH777 |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by AtheistD(m): 4:16pm On May 20, 2013 |
obadiah777: CANNON FODDER FOR ATHEISTS ? LMAO. I AM GROUNDED IN THIS. SOLID AS A ROCK. I HAVE BATTLED ALMOST ALL THE ATHEISTS ON THIS FORUM IN MY FRESHMAN YEAR ON NAIRALAND AND NEEDLESS TO SAY THEY WERE ALL SLICED DICED AND DECAPITATED WITH THAT TWO EDGED SWORD. IN FACT ALL YOUR ATHEISTS MAKE IT A POINT TO AVOID ME CUZ THEY KNOW I AM SURGICAL WITH THIS SWORD. I SUFFER NOT AN ATHEIST TO LIVE. IN FACT IT IS MY DUTY TO PUT ATHEISTS TO SLEEP SO AS TO PRESERVE OXYGEN FOR THOSE WHO ARE ALIVE, THE SAINTS THAT IS. ASK YOUR ROMAN CATHOLIC CABIN BISCUIT EATING LEADER LOGICBOY HOW I PUT HIM TO SLEEP WITH ONE OF THOSE SPIRITUAL HEIMLICH MANEURVER You just invent stuff dude. That is why we avoid you. We are not even sure you are a Christian . |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by MostHigh: 4:40pm On May 20, 2013 |
Atheist:-D: Jokes right? LWTMB |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by Nobody: 4:48pm On May 20, 2013 |
MostHigh:THE PROPHET HAS SPOKEN |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by Nobody: 4:53pm On May 20, 2013 |
Atheist:-D:I AM NOT SURE YOU ARE AN ATHEIST EITHER. TODAY YOU ARE QUOTING SCRIPTURES. THE NEXT DAY YOU ARE QUOTING THE QURAN. YOU NEED TO BE FLOGGED. MAYBE YOU WILL COME TO A DECISION OF WHAT YOU REALLY ARE AFTER HEAVY FLOGGING 2 Likes |
Re: Is Heaven Meant For Only The Poor? by okeyxyz(m): 5:18pm On May 20, 2013 |
MostHigh: Bros, I know doctrine(actually i'm a master of doctrine ) but @obadiah is a cowboy, shooting left, right and center, misses mostly and about 2-percent hits. No wonder his titles are exclusive; WMD of doctrine; doctrine terrorist; one man doctrine arsenal; etc But you gotta love him though. Never a dull moment with him. |
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