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Temperature: Evidence For A Creator 3 by Emusan(m): 12:54pm On May 29, 2013
Let me start with this saying by Metrologist Jeff Haby:
"An object will cool as long as it emits more energy than it receives. An object will warm as long as it receives more energy than it emits. Therefore, the heating or cooling of an object is cumulative. The amount of energy that has been taken away or received over a period of time determines how much an object will warm or cool". I believe we can all agree that if Earth atmosphere should vanish right now, everything on Earth will be destroyed. Due to the huge energy it will receive from Sun. According to cosmologist "Earth formed the way stars, moon, and planets formed" yet Earth has atmosphere while Moon doesn't. Our star(sun) has been estimated about 10billion years old while Earth is about 4.5billion years old, it means Sun exist before earth.
In the formation of the Earth; dust particles were fused together at a huge temperatue says about millions degree celsius, later atmosphere was formed blah blah... Base on the theory of 'Haby' above, it's not possible for atmosphere to form under huge amount of cosmic ray of the sun because earth's temperature is lesser than that of the sun (atmosphere formed in the process of earth cooling).
If an illitrate Moses can notice this and he said atmosphere was formed before sun appeared then our genius need to go back to the LAB!
But only God could have known this before man do!

If we should grant evolutionist atmosphere appear under huge temperature, another problem arise called 'warming & cooling effect of the earth' Take the earth's surface for example on a clear day. The sun has warmed the surface during the day. Once the sun goes down, the earth's surface will begin to cool (energy emitted is greater than energy received). This causes the earth's surface to become progressively cooler during the night. This is because cooling is cumulative. The longer an object emits more energy than it receives, the more it will cool. During this process of cooling earth losses some of its inner temperature. The earth's surface is not warmest when the sun is at the highest position in the sky (period of maximum daily insolation), the surface is warmest in the late afternoon, generally just 3 to 4 hours before the sun sets. Let's take 4hrs for example we have 1:6 (4/24) which means at every 24hrs/day earth only receive 4hrs rays from the sun. At 1:6 in a year, it will receive rays just for 61days (1/6*365) in summer approximately good two Months and the rest are 'Lower temperature for cooling'. Whereas equillibrium needs to occur for atmosphere balancing therefore earth needs to release some of its inner temperature to make it balance and it losses its temperature gradually per year.

Recently, in early 20th century global warming has been anounced by NASA. Means earth is losing some of its proctective layers due to greenhouse-gas emission. NOTE: only two effect has been recorded that can affect our atmosphere 1. Volcanic erruption, 2. Greenhouse-gas emissions. (Solar variation does not seem to impact the temperature trend).
Now the average temperature on Earth surface is about 61 degrees F (16 C). But temperatures vary greatly around the world depending on the time of year, ocean and wind currents and weather conditions. Let's assume that this 16C is constant over the years (though it doesn't constant, research shows that past atmosphere is more stable than now, 'lower in temperature'), we can say over 5000C is being released to atmosphere every year (16*365)=5840C. Remember only 1:6 of it received from the sun every day. 61*16=976C/yr; 5840-976=4864C/yr
what does this mean? It means earth losses 4864C/yr of its temperature to balance atmosphere that's why the temperature of the inner core is reducing gradually.

Cosmologist says the temperature of the earth at formation is Billions of celsius; let me just pick 2Billion, at 2B celsius if earth releases 4864C/yr then it will take 2B Celsius 411184yrs to vanish from the earth. The funny part of it is that, the earth is Billions of years old yet the crust still have about over 4000C for the benefit of LIFE.
The temperature increases as we descend into the earth, about one degree for every 50 feet, or 100 degrees per mile. Therefore, at 2 miles., water would boil(200C); at 18 miles, glass would melt (1850C); at 28 miles, every known substance would melt (2700C). Hence the crust is likely more than 28 miles thick--in many places less.
Re: Temperature: Evidence For A Creator 3 by ooman(m): 3:00pm On May 29, 2013
Emusan: Base on the theory of 'Haby'
above, it's not possible for atmosphere
to form under huge amount of cosmic
ray of the sun because earth's
temperature is lesser than that of the
sun (atmosphere formed in the process
of earth cooling).

if the atmosphere can't form under cosmic rays, how then does it survive under cosmic rays?
what you are saying is that liquid can't form at 300000c but it can survive at 300000c. that isn't true.
so its either the atmosphere could form, which it did, or the atmosphere does not exist now under the same cosmic rays.

moons are rocks from planets sent off to space by meteors. use google to learn before spitting nonsense next time.

and if you think that your bible is right by saying the sun and stars are in the earth atmosphere, set there by god, then good luck.

u always try to seem intelligent but the more you try, the less intelligent you are, mostly because you are trying so hard to prove an impossibility - the existence of a creator.
Re: Temperature: Evidence For A Creator 3 by Emusan(m): 4:36pm On May 29, 2013
ooman:
if the atmosphere can't form under cosmic rays, how then does it survive under cosmic rays?
what you are saying is that liquid can't form at 300000c but it can survive at 300000c. that isn't true.
so its either the atmosphere could form, which it did, or the atmosphere does not exist now under the same cosmic rays.

Mr. Ooman longest time?

Try to re-read the Haby statement above and do more research on atmospheric equillibrium.

With huge amount of temperature from the Sun atmosphere can't form simply because temperature from sun is higher than that of earth. It will survive because earth has to balance atmosphere with its own inner temperature. I cited two factors that have affect on atmosphere and the one that doesn't apart from these two factors no other factors has been recorded to affect the atmosphere but due to differences in temeperature it can't form.

moons are rocks from planets sent off to space by meteors. use google to learn before spitting nonsense next time.

As earth and other planets are rocks sent off from the Sun likewise. Earth and other planets get water but stars don't. This nature get brain die!
Pls give me the site you got your Moon formation through meteors.

and if you think that your bible is right by saying the sun and stars are in the earth atmosphere, set there by god, then good luck.

Don't get me wrong "I don't think" I believe and trust my God and His word (Bible)

u always try to seem intelligent but the more you try, the less intelligent you are, mostly because you are trying so hard to prove an impossibility - the existence of a creator.

I'm nt at all, but what can you call somebody who knows the truth and fail to accept it.

God help us.
Re: Temperature: Evidence For A Creator 3 by UyiIredia(m): 5:30pm On May 29, 2013
OP fails to state how temperature is evidence for God. The statement about the atmosphere is quite noteworthy though.
Re: Temperature: Evidence For A Creator 3 by Emusan(m): 6:16pm On May 29, 2013
Uyi Iredia: OP fails to state how temperature is evidence for God. The statement about the atmosphere is quite noteworthy though.

In the book of Job 37-40, somebody demanding Job some questions calling Himself God! But Job could not answer. Let's look at some of the questions:
1. Job 38:29 Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it?

2. Job 37:16 Dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, the wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge?
3. Job 37:17 How thy garments [atmosphere] [are] warm, when he quieteth the earth by the south [wind]?
Job could not answer this but we today can answer it.
If God did not create the universe, how can He know this?

Even in compilation account of the creations Moses recorded 11 step-by-step creations. Moreover by permutation Moses has just 1 chance out of 3millions chance available to him to quess right or wrong. n=11, (n-1)! We have 10! Yet Moses could state it clearly that 'ATMOSPHERE' had formed before star(sun) appaered. Despite that he saw sun above the earth, definitely somebody who knows how these universe had formed must have inspired him.
Re: Temperature: Evidence For A Creator 3 by Emusan(m): 6:31pm On May 29, 2013
Uyi Iredia: OP fails to state how temperature is evidence for God. The statement about the atmosphere is quite noteworthy though.

In the book of Job 37-40, somebody demanding Job some questions calling Himself God! But Job could not answer. Let's look at some of the questions:

1. Job 38:29 Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it?

2. Job 37:16 Dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, the wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge?
3. Job 37:17 How thy garments [atmosphere] [are] warm, when he quieteth the earth by the south [wind]?

4. Job 37:18 Hast thou with him spread out the sky, [which is] strong, [and] as a molten looking glass?
Job could not answer these but we today can answer it.
If God did not create the universe, how can He know this?

Even in compilation account of the creations Moses recorded 11 step-by-step creations. Moreover by permutation Moses has just 1 chance out of 3millions chances available to him to quess right or wrong. n=11, (n-1)! We have 10! Yet Moses could state it clearly that 'ATMOSPHERE' had formed before star(sun) appaered. Despite that he saw sun above the earth, definitely somebody who knows how these universe had formed must have inspired him.
Re: Temperature: Evidence For A Creator 3 by ooman(m): 6:58pm On May 29, 2013
cosmological journals tells of moon formation, just google origin of moons.

moons have water but in condensed forms.
some moons are more than 50% h2o in solid forms. I take it you understand liquids cant exist in space because of the lack of heat and gravity.

rocks and other planets are not sent off from the sun. the sun contains hydrogen that get converted to helium through fusion releasing heat and light energy that makes life possible. sun and other planets formed from the same matter, debris from a previous supernova, particules around the protodisk formed planets and asteroids. pls google solar system formation to read more. new solar systems forming have been observed, and since your god finished his own work in genesis, then its a lie, genesis never happened, if it did, then new stars wont be forming because Gen2 from 1 says everything was finished and completed.

you are still wrong concerning your cosmic ray-atmosphere saga.

and your bible is certainly wrong too, the sun would kill all life forms if its exist in the sky as Genesis claims

the only truth I know is that there is no god

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Re: Temperature: Evidence For A Creator 3 by Emusan(m): 8:42pm On May 30, 2013
Sometimes you argue as if you're not a science student, anyway that's how you've been taught to answerable reputable facts.

ooman: cosmological journals tells of moon formation, just google origin of moons.

moons have water but in condensed forms.
some moons are more than 50% h2o in solid forms. I take it you understand liquids cant exist in space because of the lack of heat and gravity.

rocks and other planets are not sent off from the sun. the sun contains hydrogen that get converted to helium through fusion releasing heat and light energy that makes life possible. sun and other planets formed from the same matter, debris from a previous supernova, particules around the protodisk formed planets and asteroids. pls google solar system formation to read more. new solar systems forming have been observed, and since your god finished his own work in genesis, then its a lie, genesis never happened, if it did, then new stars wont be forming because Gen2 from 1 says everything was finished and completed.

These aren't the basis of this thread, there're more to this later.

you are still wrong concerning your cosmic ray-atmosphere saga.

Why can't you state the law(s) that disprove my claim or scientist have stop working with law? Instead of using your mouth to claim it's not true.

and your bible is certainly wrong too, the sun would kill all life forms if its exist in the sky as Genesis claims

Please can you tell me, how all lives will be destroy as genesis stated? Pls with prove.

Rather it is evolution that can wipe out lives because atmosphere can't form as cosmologist claim and if atmosphere couldn't form life can't exist.

Now answer me; if atmosphere vanish now, what will happen to all life?

the only truth I know is that there is no god

Anyway is your personal opinion which I term as personal hateress because scientifically is not true.
Re: Temperature: Evidence For A Creator 3 by ooman(m): 8:12am On May 31, 2013
^^^you must be left to drown in the ocean of delusion in which you are already willingly swimming.
Re: Temperature: Evidence For A Creator 3 by Emusan(m): 9:47am On May 31, 2013
ooman: ^^^you must be left to drown in the ocean of delusion in which you are already willingly swimming.

Is it all you can say upon your braging about scientific theories and laws?

Who is swimming in the ocean of delusion between you and I?

You held faith on what that can not be prove scientifically yet you're ranting for nothing. The major difference between you and Christian is that; Christian have hope of eternal life base on their FAITH but your FAITH promises NOTHING after your end.

See another law that disprove atmosphere formation in the presence of the sun.

sir Boyle's law states that; the greater the external pressure, the greater the volume of hot air, at constant temperature.

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