SeanT21:

i don't see Lebron, nor Kobe, nor Carmelo, Nor Kevin, but guest who i see?? I see Shaq. this fool is wack as hell. please tell me you are joking.

idoltroll:

All of the guys I list there won multiple championships as lead dog. Both LeBron and Kobe have NEVER won championship as the leader.

Bill Russell won championships 11 straight times as lead dog. Even he college, he led his team to the championship twice. He has also done a lot more things that neither Kobe or LeBron can even touch. The Melbourne Olympics, his season as both a player/coach, his defense, etc,
We all know what Jordan did.
Magic johnson was a 3 time MVP and won 5 championships, can play all 5 positions, and won the Finals MVP as a ROOKIE. LeBron and Kobe do not have the resume that these players have, INCLUDING Shaq

Shaq won MVP, was a runner up for DPOY, won 3 Finals MVP and won 4 championships. He had the most dominant prime in this generation.

SeanT21:


lebron is still young and averages 30 points a game. Lebron won the MVP at the NBA players in January. Lebron took his team to the finals last year and they are fighting for it this year. While in his college years lebron was rated one of the best college bball players. Shaq won the chapionship by the help of kobe. Wheh he was on the heat he was with Wade. now he is with steve nash. shaq always had someone.

LASIEFAIRE:

James never went to college. he was drafted straight out of high school.

davidif:

@poster
How dare you put Bill Russell ahead of MJ. This is basketball heresy, if you said this in basketball circles everybody would laugh at you. You obviously don't sound like a knowledgable basketball fan because everybody agrees that MJ is hands down the G.O.A.T (THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME). Having said that Bill Russell was great but he is not even regarded as the best of his era, Wilt Chamberlain was and also both this guys played in an era where there were no good athletes, only stiff little white guys, that's why they dominated, i would love to see them play in this mordern day era.

A-40:

@idoltroll
I can assure basketball in those days where not as competitive as the days of MJ so what are you on about?Dr J also has to be in that list because of a lot of moves he brought to the game.

A-40:

@idoltroll
Your list is ok but you how could you leave out Abdul Jabbar and Dr J thats almost unforgiveable

akyns:

Read my post right above yours, prick. . .


@ idoltroll
Though u have a fairly average knowledge about the game, your lapses would have been forgivable if u hadn't descended to downright insults.
Do your homework before ever coming up with a self manufactured, google aided "Greatest List".
Whatever you put out here is still subject to a critical review of your peers, and i dare say we find your submissions DUBIOUS!

I concur sir his submissions put the D in Dubious

davidif:

@poster
How dare you put Bill Russell ahead of MJ. This is basketball heresy, if you said this in basketball circles everybody would laugh at you. You obviously don't sound like a knowledgable basketball fan because everybody agrees that MJ is hands down the G.O.A.T (THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME). Having said that Bill Russell was great but he is not even regarded as the best of his era, Wilt Chamberlain was and also both this guys played in an era where there were no good athletes, only stiff little white guys, that's why they dominated, i would love to see them play in this mordern day era.

davidif:

@idoltroll
Obviously you are just new to watching basketball so you go look at stats on google and dare to compare Bill Russell to Michael Jordan if you said this in public that winning 11 championships in the 50's is as impressive as winning 6 championships in 8 years in the 90's, people would laugh so hard till they fall from there chairs. Comparing Bill Russell to MJ is like comparing Rocky Marciano to The Great Prophet Ali (Cassius Clay), a man who went undefeated while fighting nobodys to a man who fought against some of the greatest of all time and lost a few fights. Lets get one thing straight, Bill Russell was one of the few black players in a league that was not competitive in other words he was going up against inferior unathletic white players, also let's not forget the fact the league hadn't merged with the ABA yet so there was a small talent pool at the time. I would sure love to see Michael Jordan dunk on Bill Russell that would make  a sportcenter highlight reel.
Your assertion that Michael Jordan struggled in the 80's is one of the most unbelievable comments i've ever read, this guy was scoring over 50 points over a Larry Bird led Celtics which made Larry Bird say that "there is Michael Jordan and there is everybody else".

You are like the only person in the world to think that Bill Russell is as good as MJ. For further validation, when the list of the top 50 players of all time was released in 1998 Michael Jordan is considered to be the greatest player of all time so be quiet.
By the way, did you ever watch Bill Russell play, i don't think so but i watched Michael Jordan play.

A-40:

@davidif
I agree with you a lot of idoltroll's analysis are very very flawed comparing Bill Russells achievement to M.J's tell me how many good players where in the league as at that time?Comparing M.J to Larry Bird holds no water that was a very weak point why not compare both players in their prime

davidif:

millico and idoltroll;
Honestly when did you guys start watching basketball because i am really curious, and Millico88 i am interested how you went to the Boston garden to watch Bill Russell play during the Jim Crow era, please stop trying to fool us. Winning 6 championships in 8 years (it could have been 8 of 8 had he not retired abruptly) is more impressive than just looking at stats of the old era and saying woah, Russell won 11 championships!!! of course if i played soccer against primary school students, i would be the next Ronaldo. A better analogy would be comparing Cassius Clay to Rocky Marciano. Rocky had the better record (undefeated) because he fought vastly inferior oponents and an aging Joe Lewis, Clay on the other hand fought some of the greatest heavyweights to have ever entered the Ring and lost a few but he is regarded as the greatest of all time. Yes Bill played some worthy adversaries at the time but they were just a few (West, Baylor, Oscar and Wilt) compared to MJ who was playing against many many many more talented players that i can't even begin to rattle off my head.
Finally to settle the debate, the NBA came out with the list of the greatest players to ever play the game sometime around 1998 and Michael Jordan was on top of the list. nuff said.

A-40:

@millco and idoltroll
Please read my post its not about how many rings or whatever its the level of competition.Could you name 5 strong teams in the Bill Russell era? your excuses do not exactly hold water didnt his competitors and rivals also have advanced training and medicine.I mean look at all these great players i mentioned these are all hall of famers or hall of famers in waiting and still they couldnt win anything when Jordan was around.Miller,Malone,Stockton,Olajuwon,Hardaway,Shaq,Ewing these are who Jordan dominated