EcoBlitz:


Frist off, doffy aint dead. Secondly, why would lola leave her mother and go meet gecko a low-end pirate and join up with him?

PRINCEZUKO1:
A LITTLE NEWS FOR ALL....
One Piece began its serialization in shonen jump on the 19th of July 1997. Today being 19th July 2015 marks its 18TH ANNIVERSARY. Look how far it has come.... 702 Episodes, 794 Chapters. so Oda has been at this for over 18 years, makes one wonder if he'll be the one to end it
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY OP.

PRINCEZUKO1:


EcoBlitz huh. Familiar name.

Btw, Lola didn't leave her mum to join Moria. She went to explore the seas and got captured on Thriller Bark.

EcoBlitz:


Oh f**k ZUKO is that you? How you been nigga?

EcoBlitz:
This OP thread is dead tho @PRINCEZUKO

kraftykc:
This thread suffers because of the traffic lack and the fact that all you can do about OP is speculate, unlike other animes riddled with plotholes ripe for discussion. OP and HxH are blessed with storylines that are sensible and very coherent so there's no room to keep shouting about this or that, also because power levels are mostly well defined we cannot speculate that Zorro will suddenly beat Fujitora because "he put his heart into the fight"....

Leave that to Naruto, it rode the train of inconsistencies amid awesome fights to the top. But it won't stay there for long.

kraftykc:
This thread suffers because of the traffic lack and the fact that all you can do about OP is speculate, unlike other animes riddled with plotholes ripe for discussion. OP and HxH are blessed with storylines that are sensible and very coherent so there's no room to keep shouting about this or that, also because power levels are mostly well defined we cannot speculate that Zorro will suddenly beat Fujitora because "he put his heart into the fight"....

Leave that to Naruto, it rode the train of inconsistencies amid awesome fights to the top. But it won't stay there for long.

kraftykc:
This thread suffers because of the traffic lack and the fact that all you can do about OP is speculate, unlike other animes riddled with plotholes ripe for discussion. OP and HxH are blessed with storylines that are sensible and very coherent so there's no room to keep shouting about this or that, also because power levels are mostly well defined we cannot speculate that Zorro will suddenly beat Fujitora because "he put his heart into the fight"....

Leave that to Naruto, it rode the train of inconsistencies amid awesome fights to the top. But it won't stay there for long.

Ultimatesammie:

Power levels are mostly well defined ure kidding right.
Some of d peeps d Mugiwaras fought were more powerful dan dem nd dey wud usually win by d so called will power all d time.
I mean look at lucci vs luffy, luffy was badly badly injured by lucci nd becos usopp came and said stand up he too stood up, d fight between kaku nd zorro, Kaku had a lot of attacks which shud hv seemed far more painful nd more dangerous buh dey seemed insignificant as compared to d less attacks zorro had.
Dont even get me started on d high survival rate d characters tend to hv, I hv noticed dat so many characters in d anime if dey have some sort of ties with d Mugiwaras dey always almost survive even if d whole world crumbles on dem and annoying part is d nxt minute dey act as if nothing happened.

EcoBlitz:


Yeah, naruto was good, up to a point.

But what i do wonder is why people would even dare to put marco on doffy's level.

Ultimatesammie:

Dont even get me started on d high survival rate d characters tend to hv, I hv noticed dat so many characters in d anime if dey have some sort of ties with d Mugiwaras dey always almost survive even if d whole world crumbles on dem and annoying part is d nxt minute dey act as if nothing happened.

PRINCEZUKO1:


Willpower and luck are present in many typical shonen so its not a problem really. Besides, the only fight Luffy actually won with willpower is against Crocodile. Enel, he had a df advantage that put him up, Luffy and Lucci were evenly matched, Lucci was also badly wounded and was barely standing there. Usopp gave Luffy the push he needed to finish him off and he too was at his limits and couldn't move after that move. Zoro obviously had an upperhand agaist Kaku, he was just majorly defending throughout and seemed to be taking the hits. He was putting up with Kaku and Jyabura even with a handicap. So finishing off Kaku when he got serious is ideal...its only his fight with Daz Bones that he won with willpower. As for the survival rate, its not only about the straw hats and allies, even other strong enemies always survives....and they don't act as if nothing happened just like you said. The effects of it still shows on them sometimes even after treatments.

And I believe too that the power levels are well defined. The power gaps between people meant to be equals arent that much. And you can easily know where someone's power levels may lie after his 1st display.

UchihaItachi:


Speaking about high survival rate, I hope Bon-chan survived the poison bath he got from Magellan after helping Mugi-chan in his prison break..he's too fun to be locked away in prison, I wouldn't complain if Oda uses plot plot power to bring him back

Ultimatesammie:

True Willpower is much in many shonen buh its usage in OP is too much, lucci may have been injured but d injuries he gv luffy were disatrous u cant just will urself out of everything, its just like kimco in d other thread said its mainly abt willpower, as 4 zoro defending didnt mean he didn't acquire much damage to himself infact kaku's attack were occuring simultaneously he cudnt stop dem all buh eventually zorro won. The willpower thing is too much, take a look at hxh d gon vs pitou gon forcibly sacrificing nearly all his aura to defeat a powerful enemy which put him in a devastating mode dat required great work to get him back he didn't just will himself to win or will himself out of d sickbed,also naruto wen he was stabbed by pain nd was pinned down he didn't just will himself to stand up d rage brought by hinata's almost demise brought d beast out if it was luffy in any of these situations im sure all it wud take is 4 some1 to say luffy u can do it nd dat he wud use will power Shekinah.
People said he was able to defeat doffy becos of wat law did to him im pretty sure if dat was also done to luffy he wud still will himself to win d fight,Imagine doffy dat can cut buildings trees, control lots of people with his strings cudnt even do dat to luffy unbelievable. To me he has just be hyped just like ichigo in bleach.

Ultimatesammie:

Actually we are meant to believe he survived (dis one too I no understand how he survive oo) according to d cover page of one of d chapters (which sometimes give info on d manga) although im pretty biased to dis one cause among d major people dat died or believed to hv died in d impel down/war of marinefold arc its bon chan I really wanted to hv survived.
Talking of characters in those arcs I wish dey bring back ivankov we need his/her comedy. (whether she be man or woman I no know.)

Ivankov and Inazuma are just two confused people that don't know if they wanna be male or female...and to think Sanji was having a nosebleed over Ivankov

Ultimatesammie:

True Willpower is much in many shonen buh its usage in OP is too much

Ultimatesammie:
lucci may have been injured but d injuries he gv luffy were disatrous u cant just will urself out of everything, its just like kimco in d other thread said its mainly abt willpower

Ultimatesammie:
as 4 zoro defending didn't mean he didn't acquire much damage to himself in-fact kaku's attack were occurring simultaneously he couldn't stop them all but eventually zorro won.

Ultimatesammie:
The willpower thing is too much, take a look at hxh d gon vs pitou gon forcibly sacrificing nearly all his aura to defeat a powerful enemy which put him in a devastating mode dat required great work to get him back he didn't just will himself to win or will himself out of d sickbed

Ultimatesammie:
also naruto wen he was stabbed by pain nd was pinned down he didn't just will himself to stand up d rage brought by hinata's almost demise brought d beast out

Ultimatesammie:
if it was luffy in any of these situations im sure all it wud take is 4 some1 to say luffy u can do it nd dat he wud use will power Shekinah.

Ultimatesammie:
People said he was able to defeat doffy because of what law did to him, i'm pretty sure if dat was also done to luffy he wud still will himself to win d fight,

Ultimatesammie:
Imagine doffy dat can cut buildings

Ultimatesammie:
trees

Ultimatesammie:
control lots of people with his strings cudnt even do dat to luffy unbelievable.

Ultimatesammie:
To me he has just be hyped just like ichigo in bleach.

ctuagent007:
@ecoblitz & princezuko

AWe still dey ground yakata for this thread & like @kraktkyc said, OP is not a BS manga like Naruto or Bleach with some many plotholes & @ultimate, [B]Have you gone on to find out why OP is still the highest selling manga of all time, that is cos the fans that follow it from Japan, China, Asia, Australia, Europe, Africa, America & the Americas respect not only it's storyline & plot like @princezuko told @firestar in Naruto thread, but that the power levels are ranked very well.
Inspite of Doffy's defeat to Luffy, Luffy still knows that he still has a long way to go (even against Doffy).....you cannot expect a Zoro to challenge a Fujitora at this time of the stage cos he has will power NO.
Luffy at Marineford was dead all through the war but watch closely, that he was saved countless of time even with his "HAKI/Will-Power", he was basically "helpless" just like the 3 Admirals told him.....& please OP is not a "talk-ko-jutsu" manga where you talk your way to win

PRINCEZUKO1:


lol, yeah, the difference is clear. Naruto trained sage mode for 5days and beat up Pain...you know, we're talking of PAIN.

PRINCEZUKO1:


Even if I consider it the most awesome fight, that was still 1 hella plot no jutsu which Kishi pulled.
Luffy went to train for 2 years and still couldn't take on Doffy alone.

EcoBlitz:


Yeah, naruto was good, up to a point.

But what i do wonder is why people would even dare to put marco on doffy's level.

gudluckgreat:



U here too.??

jamilkb:
Kaidou appears

PRINCEZUKO1:


lol, yeah, the difference is clear. Naruto trained sage mode for 5days and beat up Pain...you know, we're talking of PAIN. Even if I consider it the most awesome fight, that was still 1 hella plot no jutsu which Kishi pulled.
Luffy went to train for 2 years and still couldn't take on Doffy alone.