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Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by somze(f): 8:53pm On May 31, 2007
@Akola
He's past dealings with oil sure make him a business man and you throw a good argument with his management acquisitions, but i still don't see the effect the management of Chelsea has made to aid us on the pitch since last season. I'll address that at the close of my post.

For Chelsea to succeed as a commercial product, we need to win the hearts of neutrals and glory hunting fans around the world. The main way to do this is to continue winning trophies. Two trophies - CL and EPL - are of the most importance. However, this is not enough. We need to play attractive football or at least something close to that. In JM's 1st season, our winged display with the likes of Duff, Robben and Cole drew admiration. We were not as fluent as Arsenal or as counter attacking as ManU but that style gave us a trademark. Also our die hard spirit and winning attitude would come in handy.

Another thing that may help is making an Icon or something of a Celeb from one of our stars. It has to be a good looking person that plays well on the pitch, is fluent in english and possible has sex audience appeal. I'd pick out Mikel Obi for that. Some polishing is needed though.

We have to play friendlies in other continents and do some sort of tour. Establishing business relationships in strong commercial cities in US, Asia and Africa where club merchandise can be sold too would help tremendously.

One thing we can not forget is that we would have to build a trophy cabinet that would be the envy of others. We can not win the CL or EPL once and rest on our laurels, we must continue and show some consistency in winning stuff.

Now back to the management. I think our management have made some dreadful decisions that has cost us a lot this season. One fact is that the only true blue we have in management is Chairman Bruce Buck. Chief Executive Kenyon and Director Tenenbaum are not strictly Chelsea fans. Its just business and I fear they lack that extra passion a supporter has. Management has failed to curb the wages being wasted paid out. One thing that continually bothers me is Crespo, who we continue to pay half of this £90k wage a week for doing nothing. How the board can let Shevy and Ballack ask for so much knowing we have pillars like JT and Lampard too is beyond me. If the so called galacticos refused to take less than JT and Lampard why not offer them the same.

Another thing i don't understand is HOW they can overrule a manager in making transfer decision. JM wanted Gallas to stay but they sold him. He did not want Shevy and Ballack, yet they bought them. He wanted a defender in January and was refused funds. His job was linked with a new manager every week since January and they waited till late April to squash the rumours. Does not Kenyon know how all this can affect the dressing room spirit?

Having said all that, the management has been great in some other areas. Our UK fan base has grown from 1m to 3.8m in 3 years, our European fan base has Chelsea’s UK fan base has grown from 10.6 million to 19.2 million in two years .
http://www.superbrands.easysite.org/files/_-_Chelsea_LR_3952.pdf

2007 FA Cup Winners, 2007 Carling Cup Winners, 2007 Premiership Runners-Up and 2007 Champions League Semi-Finallists - WE HAVE HAD A FANTASTIC SEASON

TRUE BLUE
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by Mustay(m): 10:55pm On May 31, 2007
Sooooooooooo, long!
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by Akolawole(m): 12:09am On Jun 01, 2007
@Somze

Another Loyika in the making? grin

somze:

1) We need to play attractive football [/b]or at least something close to that.


2) In JM's 1st season, [b]our winged display with the likes of Duff, Robben and Cole drew admiration
. We were not as fluent as Arsenal or as counter attacking as ManU but that style gave us a trademark. Also our die hard spirit and winning attitude would come in handy.

3) We have to play friendlies in other continents and do some sort of tour. Establishing business relationships in strong commercial cities in US, Asia and Africa where club merchandise can be sold too would help tremendously.

4) Management has failed to curb the wages being wasted paid out. One thing that continually bothers me is Crespo, who we continue to pay half of this £90k wage a week for doing nothing. How the board can let Shevy and Ballack ask for so much knowing we have pillars like JT and Lampard too is beyond me. If the so called galacticos refused to take less than JT and Lampard why not offer them the same.

5) Another thing i don't understand is HOW they can overrule a manager in making transfer decision. JM wanted Gallas to stay but they sold him. He did not want Shevy and Ballack, yet they bought them. He wanted a defender in January and was refused funds. His job was linked with a new manager every week since January and they waited till late April to squash the rumours. Does not Kenyon know how all this can affect the dressing room spirit?

6) Having said all that, the management has been great in some other areas. Our UK fan base has grown from 1m to 3.8m in 3 years, our European fan base has Chelsea’s UK fan base has grown from 10.6 million to 19.2 million in two years .
http://www.superbrands.easysite.org/files/_-_Chelsea_LR_3952.pdf

7) 2007 FA Cup Winners, 2007 Carling Cup Winners, 2007 Premiership Runners-Up and 2007 Champions League Semi-Finallists - WE HAVE HAD A FANTASTIC SEASON


This is an example of a Chelsean to the core. Keep it up boy.

1) Attractive football? What for? Majority like it but i dont like it any more. It had given me more tears than happiness. Brazil in 1986 world cup, Nigeria's team to Maroc '88 among others.
Beside my own definition of attractive football is a bit different. Defensive skills in stopping goals. Attacking flair that produces good goals et al. Chelsea has done these.

2) Injury people?. I think i prefer our die hard spirit. Ability to give it all.

3) We are doing very well on this. we are doing a good job in Yankee and Asia. At what time do you want us to play friendlies? We dont actually have time beside summer.

4) Players wages is abracadabra, Bench-warmers may be earning more than first-teamers. Henry was at a time earning £12 while Kanu gets £25k.
Sheva and Ballack came as a very high profile players[ Players that have seen it all]. The money is a lot but what can we do? Frank and Terry recently rejected £120k a week while DD and Essien earn less . Imagine!

5) Kenyon? No comment!

6) Thats good to hear.
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by somze(f): 7:46am On Jun 01, 2007
Yeah guess it was a bit long. grin
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by manu4laif: 7:51am On Jun 01, 2007
@Somze,
Well done.
The next movie star loyika grin grin


WAN UNITED grin grin
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by danniecool(m): 9:30am On Jun 01, 2007
somze:

@Akola
He's past dealings with oil sure make him a business man and you throw a good argument with his management acquisitions, but i still don't see the effect the management of Chelsea has made to aid us on the pitch since last season. I'll address that at the close of my post.

For Chelsea to succeed as a commercial product, we need to win the hearts of neutrals and glory hunting fans around the world. The main way to do this is to continue winning trophies. Two trophies - CL and EPL - are of the most importance. However, this is not enough. We need to play attractive football or at least something close to that. In JM's 1st season, our winged display with the likes of Duff, Robben and Cole drew admiration. We were not as fluent as Arsenal or as counter attacking as ManU but that style gave us a trademark. Also our die hard spirit and winning attitude would come in handy.

Another thing that may help is making an Icon or something of a Celeb from one of our stars. It has to be a good looking person that plays well on the pitch, is fluent in english and possible has sex audience appeal. I'd pick out Mikel Obi for that. Some polishing is needed though.

We have to play friendlies in other continents and do some sort of tour. Establishing business relationships in strong commercial cities in US, Asia and Africa where club merchandise can be sold too would help tremendously.

One thing we can not forget is that we would have to build a trophy cabinet that would be the envy of others. We can not win the CL or EPL once and rest on our laurels, we must continue and show some consistency in winning stuff.

Now back to the management. I think our management have made some dreadful decisions that has cost us a lot this season. One fact is that the only true blue we have in management is Chairman Bruce Buck. Chief Executive Kenyon and Director Tenenbaum are not strictly Chelsea fans. Its just business and I fear they lack that extra passion a supporter has. Management has failed to curb the wages being wasted paid out. One thing that continually bothers me is Crespo, who we continue to pay half of this £90k wage a week for doing nothing. How the board can let Shevy and Ballack ask for so much knowing we have pillars like JT and Lampard too is beyond me. If the so called galacticos refused to take less than JT and Lampard why not offer them the same.

Another thing i don't understand is HOW they can overrule a manager in making transfer decision. JM wanted Gallas to stay but they sold him. He did not want Shevy and Ballack, yet they bought them. He wanted a defender in January and was refused funds. His job was linked with a new manager every week since January and they waited till late April to squash the rumours. Does not Kenyon know how all this can affect the dressing room spirit?

Having said all that, the management has been great in some other areas. Our UK fan base has grown from 1m to 3.8m in 3 years, our European fan base has Chelsea’s UK fan base has grown from 10.6 million to 19.2 million in two years .
http://www.superbrands.easysite.org/files/_-_Chelsea_LR_3952.pdf

2007 FA Cup Winners, 2007 Carling Cup Winners, 2007 Premiership Runners-Up and 2007 Champions League Semi-Finallists - WE HAVE HAD A FANTASTIC SEASON

TRUE BLUE

Great--- You said it all wink cheesy
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by Mustay(m): 8:24pm On Jun 01, 2007
Abeg reduce all these river niger posts.
Abi you wan start your journal for here
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by kitaun(m): 9:20pm On Jun 01, 2007
lmao  . . . cheesy  grin
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by somze(f): 10:57pm On Jun 01, 2007
Pizarro has just joined chelsea. embarassed It seems it's management that are involved in buying players this time around.
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by debosky(m): 10:58pm On Jun 01, 2007
evidence please? pizzaro from bayern?? that will truly be shocking.
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by somze(f): 11:02pm On Jun 01, 2007
Sorry,

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=435557&cc=3888

And its shocking. Well if we get Alex and Glen back, i guess we have a team ready for next season challenge.
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by debosky(m): 11:04pm On Jun 01, 2007
2 free transfers so far. . . seems chelsea is doing some astute business this summer, getting who they want without paying through the nose
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by somze(f): 11:11pm On Jun 01, 2007
well you dont blame them after numerous failures in the market. The latest costing £30m. grin
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by kitaun(m): 12:32am On Jun 02, 2007
When u had Glen, why let him go? Has he become so gud all of a sudden?
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by ayefele200(m): 12:36am On Jun 02, 2007
up CHELSEA, HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by nateevs(m): 12:40am On Jun 02, 2007
What bothers me the most is the average age the team.

 Claude makalele 34
 Sheva                 30, 31 in september.
 Micheal Ballack    30, 31 in september
 Frank Lampard   29 by 20th june
 Didier Drogba     29
 Carvalho            29

and now claudio pizarro 28,   29 in october .  there are also rumours we might be going for
              benny mccarhty  29,  30 in November. whhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttttt?

I really don't think this is futuristic. Again considering the fact that we will be  chasing every competition - and in the premiership where players burn a lot of energy - we should be signing younger players.  

I don't think Sheva, ballack will hit that most desired form anymore. It's really obvious Lampard is tiring. Bringing these already ageing players will do nothing but tire the team even more.

I am 100% sure this is not mourinho's idea. His style has always been young, strong, intelligent and quick players.

I still wonder why we can't go after berbatov.  I heard today we pulled out of the race for david villa.

Man U is really very serious with tranfers this time around. It is reported they have spent about £50m
already.

What do you think Strictly Chelsea fans.
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by Iman3(m): 1:37am On Jun 02, 2007
Mourinho seems to be planning to win the title next season without spending:

[b]After claiming five leading trophies in three extraordinary seasons, Mourinho will start next season back at Stamford Bridge, but in some respects he will be managing a different club on returning on July 9 from a five-week holiday in Portugal, one shorn of the extravagances of the past. With the exception of Steve Sidwell, Claudio Pizarro and Alex, all signed on free transfers, the Portuguese has been told that he must work with what he has got.

Mourinho, though, is not complaining. Indeed, after three years of his club being castigated as the Barclays Premiership’s spendthrifts, he is relishing the opportunity to prove that he can be just as successful on a more modest budget, mischievously asking whether Manchester United or Liverpool will be crowned “champions” [the biggest spenders] of the transfer window.

Another joke doing the rounds among Mourinho’s inner circle is Chelsea’s desire to make history by becoming the first team to win the Premiership without spending a single penny. Such parsimony is a source of pride.

[/b]

-http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premiership/chelsea/article1873157.ece
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by nateevs(m): 1:55am On Jun 02, 2007
It's a brilliant idea except that we can't do it bringing in old players.
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by slimnike(m): 6:03am On Jun 02, 2007
Bringing old players is not the issue, lets just hope they blead quikly and you will see experience counts. Example; the champions league final between Liverpool vs AC milan, Liverpool had all the young players but experience won it for AC Milan. And i like the way we are making how Signings for the next season; Calm and smart.
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by somze(f): 7:48am On Jun 02, 2007
Signing old players may not be futuristic but its cheap. We have our youth team for that. We also have some young ones in the first team - mikel, diarra, sahar, sinclair; others may be considered as young too - robben, cech, JT, SWP, Joe cole etc

It may also be a good idea to curb cost as it would put us in the profit margin we are trying to achieve by 2010. It is also possible that we become one of the big teams in Europe - almost of the likes of ManU, Real, AC and Barca - if we continue wining like we have been doing.
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by nateevs(m): 10:40am On Jun 02, 2007
I think we need a holding midfielder. very holding qiuck, midfield. A player that pushes play thru the center with appreciable speed.

I like Lampard as a CM but he plays across midfield it's obvious everytime he's aiming for SWP, JOE, ROBBEN on the end of the 4-3-3.

Managers like rafael benitez read that very well that's why we don't achieve much over Liverpool. If we have a holding midfielders that attracts all the play to the center, it'll free out the quick guys on the flanks plus it gives us more attacking options. With Drogba being another stubborn force in the middle, we'r in for all competitions.

Again that's perhaps the only way we can get Sheva scoring.

I am not trying to teach JM playing options. I just think he needs one or two players like that and we can find them cheap in brazil and argentina.

What do you think guys?
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by somze(f): 10:53am On Jun 02, 2007
I think thats why we have - makalele, essien, mikel and maybe diarra. What's ballack for anyway?
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by nateevs(m): 11:42am On Jun 02, 2007
makalele, diarra and mikel (lately) are more defensive in their nature of play.

essien seems to be more bursting than the rest of them but he is still very defensive; that's the reason he could have made up the defense in the absence of our crucial defenders and relegate boulahrouz to the bench.

ballack isn't what he used to be whether the premiership or not.

and the type of midfielder i am talking about is the type that takes over the play. perhaps the the most notable on the pitch at every point.

you will agree with me essien and ballack are different midfielders from;

kaka, ronaldinho, pablo aimar, deco, paul scholes, okocha (in his days), clarence seedorf. These CMs are in a world of their own. they touch the ball the most, thier passes win matches. they attract a lot of play to the centre of midfield thereby freeing their strikers and wing players.

Teams with such players score lots of goals.

With strikers like didier and sheva, the four trophies are just the beginning.
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by somze(f): 11:47am On Jun 02, 2007
We do not really have a playmaker in chelsea. Maybe Mikel can be redefined to what he used to be - referring to holland.
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by Mustay(m): 12:58pm On Jun 02, 2007
The ones in chelsea no be him age o!
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by tosinadeda: 1:21pm On Jun 02, 2007
Chelsea signs pizzaro
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by nateevs(m): 1:25pm On Jun 02, 2007
somze

U know it really amazes how mikel became suddenly very defensive - far from what we saw in Holland. I know every player that plays under Jose must be defensive.

I agree with you he could be made what he was in holland. His newly found defensive qualities, age and vision can give him some edge over ageing ballack.

The only problems I have with him are his sometimes reterogressive play - i think he passes back to the defense too often even when he can go 4wards - and his speed.

What do u think?
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by Mustay(m): 1:57pm On Jun 02, 2007
Am happy 4 pizaro!
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by nateevs(m): 2:27pm On Jun 02, 2007
Mustay:

Am happy 4 pizaro!



Really?
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by Mustay(m): 2:55pm On Jun 02, 2007
Yap! He's a very good player. Always admired him but never thought Jm 'll go 4 him. Cool 'un
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by nateevs(m): 5:32pm On Jun 02, 2007
I'm not sure it's JM's idea. I have not seen any comment made by jose on him (pizarro).

I might be wrong but i av been searching frantically. Have you seen anything?

71 goals for bayern since 2001.

his profile was already updated as 11pm on 1st june on wikipedia as a chelsea player. Actually that was the where I saw he is with chelsea.
Re: Strictly Chelsea Talk: by Mustay(m): 6:46pm On Jun 02, 2007
Just received a mail from d club and topic was- pizarro is second summer signing!
confirmed ngerem!

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