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| Travel Expert Advice Needed by mekaboy(m): 12:33am On May 12, 2008 |
Hello people, I have brought a case to table before the forum everyones opinion is needed. A young nigerian boy who is over 18 and under 30 says he wants to travel abroad after his secondary school he takes some professional courses in information technology in ghana. He is confused about the following, 1, he does not know wether to apply for school in uk or canada where will be easier for him to live. 2, his parent has said that all they are willing to invest in his education is 1.7 mil naira, this should include his tuiton accomodation and stuff, after which he will fend for himself. 3, he has found some schools in the UK that cost 4000pounds for a year, but the ones he found in canada are far more expensive , about 15,000 dollars. 4, his fear is, if he is able to get pay for 1 year in the uk school, and he is left with about 2000 pounds, will it be possible for him to take care of himself and pay the rest of his fees for the other 2 yrs without support form back home? 5, also are there cheaper schools in canada he could apply? if he manages to pay for the expensive fees in canada will he be able to fend for himself without support from home. he is facing the fears, 1, does he go to uk to study? 2, does he go to canada though the schools are expensive 3, does he recieve the 1.7mil and invest in biz in africa? Please people lets advice this young man as a family on what best to do. |
| Re: Travel Expert Advice Needed by abbyode(m): 3:56pm On May 12, 2008 |
Why cant he try one of the universities in South Africa esp Wits and UC(University of capetown)? They are far better than Nigerian universities and they can also compete favourably around the world. Just my opinion. Cheers. |
| Re: Travel Expert Advice Needed by erico2k2(m): 12:07pm On Jun 10, 2008 |
I do get a sense and read a diffrent meaning to what the author is potrating, well you as a student in the UK allowed certain working hours, if you do more than that you have broken the laws and compromised the condition of your VISA, and IT courses are no longer viable in the advance world as everyone are now self thought, if you reason of traveling abroad is to acquire these skills only, I suggest you adhere to reply #1, take the South African option. |
| Re: Travel Expert Advice Needed by tjadeba(m): 4:19pm On Jun 11, 2008 |
IT courses are no longer viable in the advance world as everyone are now self thought@erico , i quite agree with you on your advice for that fellow but i beg to disagree on the your quote above! REASON: I.T isnt just limited to knowing how to surf the net alone.it really goes beyond that.and here is link for everyone to know if the above quote is safe to conclude. http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/career-articles-10_hot_jobs_that_start_at_50k-418 check job #8, just came out today on yahoo. |
| Re: Travel Expert Advice Needed by erico2k2(m): 3:48pm On Jun 26, 2008 |
@ tjadeba Thanks for your contribution and 4 agreeing with me, now here it goes, i checked on them site you pasted now, the IT jobs there got to do with packet software, by packetsoftware I mean like FInance software, banking software,medical software etc now people who are already accountants are trained to use these package softwares, thats how it goes for every establishments these days, Sad reality I know, vertually every one works with computers these days, the only part i think is left for IT people is SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, I may be wrong thouhg just my opinion if you get me, if you decide to sturdy IT where shall you start these days? |
| Re: Travel Expert Advice Needed by landis(m): 4:09pm On Jun 26, 2008 |
IT courses are no longer viable in the advance world as everyone are now self thought, Go to India if all you wanna do is IT. |
| Re: Travel Expert Advice Needed by dnative(m): 6:57pm On Jun 26, 2008 |
erico2k2: As has been earlier pointed out, I humbly disagree with this too. On a short term basis, I think the poster should invest the funds (with extreme due diligence) and see what he can turnover in a year or two before taking stock of his options again. 1.7 million invested wisely in the right place in Nigeria can get very healthy returns in a year or two. There's no point having money to pay 1/4 or half way through and hoping to hustle the rest, not that easy my guy. Best leave here with your complete funds for your education and leave nothing to chance. And in addition, if all you really want to study at the moment is IT courses at a non-degree level. I'll say keep your money and stay back in Nigeria for now. You could gain good ground in IT even in Nigeria. It all depends on your enthusiasm and efforts. |
| Re: Travel Expert Advice Needed by erico2k2(m): 10:08pm On Jun 26, 2008 |
dnative why are you dissagreeing with me, what you just said there is what I have been saying all along,if you come to the Uk or US to study IT when youfinish, what are you gonna do? who is going to employ you with no expirience etc.,my cozen went to one of these seminars where you pay 2k and you are trained to do your MSCE you know what that is yeh and he was garaunteed a job at the end, once he finish that was it, my guy went back to do accounting thats how he got a job now using loads of accounting software etc,if you aint a software engineer or a programmer or website designer 4get it my guy. |
| Re: Travel Expert Advice Needed by dnative(m): 11:01pm On Jun 26, 2008 |
I disagreed with you based on the following presumptions: That the 'IT course' the poster is willing to study is an undergraduate computer science or other IT related degree programs. The IT course the posters had in mind are not the 2-weeks, 6-days bootcamp CCNA/P, MCSE short programs. This is because the poster cannot secure a visa on the basis of these short courses except he intends to get a visitor's visa and attend these courses which after completion he still would not have the proper leave to remain and seek for employment. Having identified that the poster is much more likely referring to an undergraduate programme rather than a short duration IT programme for reasons outlined above, I would say it is definitely viable for him to pursue such a programme but only if he has adequate funding for the entire programme and related expenses. In no rude way, I would say what you've said so far about IT and related careers portrays that this is a domain in which you seem to have limited knowledge or experience. For someone to pay 2k to attend an MCSE boot camp and expects to get a job at the end of that is riding a wish horse. It takes much more than a boot camp to get the required skills and experience in IT. It is an involving process that goes beyond spending some few weeks at a boot camp. For one familiar with the the IT arena, you would know straight up that 'a guaranteed job at the end of the training programme' is nothing but a carefully crafted marketing gimmick (often ridden with small prints) used by some unscrupulous IT training companies. Nobody can guarantee you a job, you'll still have to send out your CVs and attend interviews just like everyone else. The best they do to meet up the promise is recruit former students into internship positions (read lab/teaching assistant positions) at the training outfit. Your cousin was mostly misinformed and possibly had unrealistic expectations without a commensurate level of effort impressed upon him about what is possible in IT and what is not. To correct your notion about IT courses not being viable as everyone are now self taught, I would say that is a rather broad generalisation. Working with computers (even as a super user with comptence in productivity packages, ms office, lotus notes, sage accounting, autodesk etc) and supporting for instance an enterprise messaging infrastructure, a metropolitan switched-fabric storage area network, a bunch of federated active directory servers, a 6-node clustered database server or architecting a service oriented application are poles apart and for the uninformed, all na IT  which can be learnt in some 4 weeks boot camp before moving into that dream job readily waiting for you. IT courses depending on the specialty area and to what end or purpose the training is meant to serve the attendee are still very much viable. The only problem is when people go on such courses without a clear career strategy and expect employment miracles at the end of the programme.On a more serious note, if the guy is financially challenged and can't afford to fully pay for his education in his preferred countries for an undergraudate degree, my candid advice is that he keep that money for now and get some grounding over there in Nigeria by improving upon the basic training he had in Ghana (I'm presuming he had already taken this) rather than going to SA or India for some short term course. Except you are already experienced in IT and going for some really specialist short term training to build upon existing competencies in your area of specialisation, it is just a waste of resources for a newbie to go out that far for such short term (and expensive) courses. |
| Re: Travel Expert Advice Needed by erico2k2(m): 10:51am On Jun 27, 2008 |
I agree with you on your last note mayB I worded my explanation the wrong way, it ain't worth the investment if he ain't got the right Job guarantee, those disciplines you mentioned up there, me and you know howlong it takes to accomplish and when you g for interview this days the prefer Knowledge and experience than your certificate.Sad reality here. |
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