mckay06: I really don't understand y Doctors should be called derogatory names just because they are following a laudable course that will better the nation.
Can u compare the working conditions of Doctors to that of Lawmakers who do nothing, but take home #29.5M every month or an Oil worker who earns in the region of #1.5M every month.
How much is a Doctor taking?
If u think he is overpaid, take a course in Medicine and u'll understand his plight.

ikennahill:

your post lack substance and argument.the rules are clear.if you are a technician you wana be a scientist you go to med lab school,can you tell me where drs run hospital if not in Nigeria,hospital administrators run hospitals in serious country,in south Africa they do masters in medicine apart frm their residencies too,why hv u not introduced it in Nigeria,you don't want peple to see medicine as a normal first degree course like others.my dear what drs do many nurses can do,so why cant nma do short courses for them and make them drs.in most countries they have clinical officers,they do all work the dr do and when drs try strike they work and the nation is okay.i think this should be introduced to Nigeria to help in our health system

ikennahill:

law maker job is even bigger than Nigerian med dr because a single law made by them can change medicine and even the whole Nigeria,that does notimply that they should earn such big amount even when poverty in the land is high.can u visit okija shrine like them?can you wine and dine with assassins like them?i don't jealous them.you don't want to better the nation,you only think about [b]how to better yourselves [/b]and stop others growth.how can you be looking for how to better the nation but use ur position to stop the call duty of optometrists in a state in south .are they not Nigerians?Thank God you are not God.

mckay06: [b]Federal Ministry of Health is a levelled playing pitch, [/b]every dept./unit has the ball and each has to play well inorder to achieve its objectives, the Resident Doctors are playing a good one by asking the FG y it shortchanged the Health sector, but all they could get in support from other units is antipathy.

ikennahill:

law maker job is even bigger than Nigerian med dr because a single law made by them can change medicine and even the whole Nigeria,that does notimply that they should earn such big amount even when poverty in the land is high.can u visit okija shrine like them?can you wine and dine with assassins like them?i don't jealous them.you don't want to better the nation,you only think about how to better yourselves and stop others growth.how can you be looking for how to better the nation but use ur position to stop the call duty of optometrists in a state in south .are they not Nigerians?Thank God you are not God.

Omonakoda : There is no benefit to anyone from a doctors strike. Why should government fund doctors training? Truth is many of the doctors here still reason like undergraduates with little knowledge of the world or reality. Does government pay for training for pharmacists,or other health professionals? This is a political issue and<B> in many places where government does this for doctors they(residents) earn much less than nurses and other professionals until they qualify.<\b>In short they make a sacrifice and then when they qualify they serve the nation. In Nigeria they bullied the nation into paying superlative on call allowances and when they qualify most leave government employ. Why should government pay for you to better yourself

ikennahill:
big lie.Many departments are not represented in FMH.infact med.drs control here and use it to stunt others growth.there is no level playing field in ministries of health both state and federal at all.this is the real problem of our health system because drs control them,tell Nigerians the truth

Akpode Karo: Oh! Nigeria what's all this, strike actions here and there? FG please do something fast, we beg of you.

omonnakoda: Typical arrogance of the ignorant and unexposed Nigerian Doctor !Many people go to Hospital and have nothing to do with doctors; Immunization,Antenatal clinics,Physiotherapy,Speech Therapy,Psychology,Counselling,Occupational therapy the list goes on. Doctors are agitating for the government to pay for their training .Why should government do this ? Do they pay for training for pilots,engineers,accountant?,Bankers lawyers etc. [b]Is there any obligation after the training for the doctors to serve the government ? The answer is a big NO!! The doctors in training NARD are paid salaries which together with on call allowances make them the highest paid government employees.They are the ones that should pay government for their training!!,

mckay06:
If Optometrists' call duty allowance was stopped in a particular state, then it is a state affair and they shud sort it. In my state and others, optometrists are 'pocketting' their call duty allowee

mckay06:
U'll be educated if u study the MOH Organogram for d 3tiers of govt.

jmichael:


Young man, I get point. It is well articulated. Bt ma grouse wit d strike action is dat docs r takin it personal, as if in d hospitals dey r d ones dat do all d works. Nw ua goin on strike coz of lack of equipments(if at all), forgettin dat dis same lack of equipment, among oda tins also affect oda health care practitioners. It wld av made sense if d headline read: healthcare practitioners (docs , pharms,nurses and labs) embark on strike due to lack of equipment among oda tins. Make ur struggle a comprehensive and less political one. Little wonda y most pple r interpreting dis as greed, selfishness, arrogance etc of d docs (I am even tempted to join dem).

on a good day:


progressives huh!!!....u r just an alliterate...u.need.good/better education

ikennahill:

law maker job is even bigger than Nigerian med dr because a single law made by them can change medicine and even the whole Nigeria,that does notimply that they should earn such big amount even when poverty in the land is high.can u visit okija shrine like them?can you wine and dine with assassins like them?i don't jealous them.you don't want to better the nation,you only think about how to better yourselves and stop others growth.how can you be looking for how to better the nation but use ur position to stop the call duty of optometrists in a state in south .are they not Nigerians?Thank God you are not God.

jp philips:


You seem not to get it, if the Nurses and other support medical practitioners refuse to agitate, how is it the doctor's problem?
the doctor can comfortably do the job of a nurse but a nurse cannot do the job of a doctor, don't you think that it may be in the interest of Nurses to sit back while the doctors agitate?

It is nothing personal so quit rubbing your ego on it, the request this time is the most genuine i ve heard from doctors in recent times. we love to complain but when it comes to who bells the cat no one steps forward, this time NARD has stepped forward and they should be commended.

A friend of mine called me from lagos in January asking me to inquire from the Military hospital and UPTH for an ultroid machine.
to my utmost chagrin, the doctors in UPTH doesn't even know what i was asking of, it was just one military doctor who worked with the ECOMOG team admitted to have seen it before.

this machine when i sourced it online was a paltry 750k and it has been proven to be effective in the treatment of hemorrhoid. i couldn't believe that a whole teaching hospital doesn't even know let alone have a 750k equipment which has the ability to cure an ailment 45% of the population is suffering from.

I researched further to realize that in the military alone, 67% suffer from primary hemorrhoid while 38% suffer from secondary hemorrhoids, i even read where the chief of Army staff promised that due to the proliferation of the condition in the military, he will distribute the machine to all the Military hospitals in the country.

Only god knows why that promise wasn't kept or perhaps one of those corruption things.

now the cracker.

The guy who needed the treatment now told me that a private clinic where he was lucky to see the tiny equipment somewhere in Ajao estate in lagos, is asking for 100k for a 15min procedure.

my dear, this experience alone spoke volume of the Nigerian healthcare system. I dont blame the doctors one bit

speckless:

There is a big need for reorientation and proper enlightenment of people of your specie. Its only in Nigeria that you find patients visiting physiotherapists, pharmacists etc without proper refferal from a qualified Doctor.
Pls and pls stop misinforming the public!
Thanks.

Joanna Sedley: Yeah, if your are a nurse, pharmacist and the rest then you are a med school dropout and not intelligent enough etc. This line is getting old and childish, people should just grow up.
@topic, i sincerely hope they know what they are doing, cos healthcare trends are changing. Nurses are gaining ground in most developed countries and you know we like copycatTING in Nigeria " they are doing so so and so over there, i think we should give it a try here". The strike is becoming incessant irrespective of whatever it is they are agitating for.
Let's play the scenario on how probably our politicians reasons, they are there cos of what they will gain from the government and now for the doctors to give them headache " "these guys are becoming a pain in the axse, let's start training other personnel to perform some of their duties" they make the law and bam bam that is it.
Remember when the CHEW's were introduce hahaha, nurses started struggling for supremacy over them, every other personnel relaxed and now they are getting degrees in community health. These professionals diagnose , prescribe, treat people at various communities using standing order, what if a law changes that and they stop using standing order.
Doctors should take note, in these case, you are not the one with the scapel the politicians are. As far as they are concerned we are all dispensable, they can take your job and give it to a willing opponent.
My perspective though.

Joanna Sedley: Yeah, if your are a nurse, pharmacist and the rest then you are a med school dropout and not intelligent enough etc. This line is getting old and childish, people should just grow up.
@topic, i sincerely hope they know what they are doing, cos healthcare trends are changing. Nurses are gaining ground in most developed countries and you know we like copycatTING in Nigeria " they are doing so so and so over there, i think we should give it a try here". The strike is becoming incessant irrespective of whatever it is they are agitating for.
Let's play the scenario on how probably our politicians reasons, they are there cos of what they will gain from the government and now for the doctors to give them headache " "these guys are becoming a pain in the axse, let's start training other personnel to perform some of their duties" they make the law and bam bam that is it.
Remember when the CHEW's were introduce hahaha, nurses started struggling for supremacy over them, every other personnel relaxed and now they are getting degrees in community health. These professionals diagnose , prescribe, treat people at various communities using standing order, what if a law changes that and they stop using standing order.
Doctors should take note, in these case, you are not the one with the scapel the politicians are. As far as they are concerned we are all dispensable, they can take your job and give it to a willing opponent.
My perspective though.

on a good day:


my problem with doctors is that they very greedy and insensitive...now they want pple to supprport them for better training,despite the ones they have already,

docnuges: it is difficult to respond to this without insulting up, so I'll just ignore it.

on a good day:



very funny...and when the nurses and pharmacist get standard training,the patient gets substandard care huh!!!
and the police gets standard training the ppl get substandard policing,why have they not gone on strike....mtcheew!!!!!