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Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by eaglechild: 5:28pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
omonnakoda: What does any of that have to do with PharmacyDid you miss out clinical pharmacology and therapeutics? pharmacy, the science and art concerned with the preparation and standardization of drugs. Pharmacists are responsible for the preparation of the dosage forms of drugs, such as tablets, capsules, and sterile solutions for injection. They compound physicians’, dentists’, and veterinarians’ prescriptions for drugs. The science that embraces knowledge of drugs with special reference to the mechanism of their action in the treatment of disease is pharmacology. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/455192/pharmacy#toc35617 In other words they both deal with drugs while one formulates it the other places more emphasis on its effects or interactions in humans. |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by eaglechild: 5:34pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
omonnakoda:A document that enables you practice as a professional in a field e.g medicine pharmacy etc independently. In other words a doctor can decide to open a hospital and employ nurses, pharmacists, lab technicians etc. |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by eaglechild: 5:40pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
on a good day:There you go again with sentimental misinformation and misquoting. Pharmacology as a medical student runs for a minimum period of twelve months. Residency as a doctor in clinical pharmacology / Therapeutics runs for 4 to 6 years. Please i never said doctors are better than pharmacists at being pharmacists cause that is just ridiculous. |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by onagoodday1: 5:48pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
eaglechild: chai! why do you reason like this?,so a person who produces drugs,formulates it, etc etc does not place emphasis on effects or interactions in humans prio tp formulation?. chai, you ought to be a native doctor,that would been a better calling for you,where you can practics without restrictions. |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by omonnakoda: 5:51pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
eaglechild:In Nigeria?, You are one of the most ignorant people I have encountered.Sadly you know not and know not that you know not Any person, doctor or not, can open a hospital if they fulfil the requirements. Person is used in the legal sense and so can be an individual ,association,company etc this includes entities such as Church,Mosque, Bank, Tailor or Farmer or fisherman. |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by omonnakoda: 5:54pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
eaglechild: Empty rubbish! Doctors are not trained to be pharmacists . Pharmacology sounds like pharmacy but is very very different.please do us a favour,shut up!! |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by onagoodday1: 6:22pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
eaglechild: you are the one misinforming the public, i said in my earlier post that a doctor has a lil knowledge in pharmacology and i expect u to know that it is with respect to a pharmacist, and you came with assertions explaining how knowleadgable a doctor is and all that. Now if a doctor does residency for 6 yrs and 12 monts in sch,which total of 7yrs and a pharmacist is allowed to do 4yrs in sch and 6 yrs residency which is 10yra,pls who,in ur opinion would provide better care to the patient with respect to drugs. 2ndly you said a doctor cannot be better than a pharmacist in being pharmacist,meaning,if i get u,that they have job descriptions anywhere they may cross each other,so why are they fighting tooth and nail to get pharmacists out of the hospital,finally ether they(doctors) like it or not,pharmacist are drug experts hohaa!!!! |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by omonnakoda: 6:31pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
eaglechild: A pharmacist is NOT an expert in pharmacology.They are NOT pharmacologists. I don't think you understand what a pharmacist does |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by eaglechild: 7:32pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
omonnakoda:Pls refer to my previous post and the link. |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by eaglechild: 7:46pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
on a good day:I am not fighting anyone. I just don't want you feeding the public wrong information. I am here to set the records straight. Does it not make sense to know the pharmacokinetics, pharmocodynamics including side effects contraindications etc of the drug one is prescribing. Pls refer to the link i gave. I don't know why u are trying so hard to belittle doctors. |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by omonnakoda: 10:25pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
eaglechild:Shut up. Get a job |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by eaglechild: 12:52am On Jul 01, 2013 |
omonnakoda: Shut up. Get a jobFinally, you've run out of lies and then resorted to rudeness. I rest my case. |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by onagoodday1: 2:57am On Jul 01, 2013 |
eaglechild: i have gone through your link,and your assertions left me even more confused of yuor stands,the link described the dvpt of pharmacist and physicians,do you undertsand what DeVELOPEMENT is? . I want you to understand that pharmacy as a profession is now developing and moving from product oriented to patient oriented,and besides if setting the record straight and telling it as it is makes you feel belittled as a doctor (if u are) ,then it's unfortunate,because i know so many doctors who loves to have a pharmacist around,those who differ from those archaic doctors who has turned the noble medical profession into a cult like group,where ur growth in the profession is no longer based on the content of ur brain and character but on ur being a bootlicker,if these category of archaic and redundant doctors are your mentors(as it seems to me),you better leave them behind...the world has moved. |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by omonnakoda: 7:09am On Jul 01, 2013 |
eaglechild:You have no case just meaningless gibberish! Pharmacy is not pharmacology. |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by omonnakoda: 7:14am On Jul 01, 2013 |
on a good day:. He is a clown and knows very little. Truth is Nigerian doctors in their training have no clue how to work with pharmacists collaboratively. They do not know what hospital pharmacy is all about and how it can help them It is an intrinsic part of Nigerian medical training to hear the phrase "doctors are the head of the medical team" creating an egoistic arrogant bunch.Often they come in for a huge culture shock when they travel abroad to find that thinking is outdated and the world has moved on. |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by infolekan(m): 9:11am On Jul 01, 2013 |
omonnakoda: What does any of that have to do with Pharmacy Do doctors get any training in handling medicines/poisons ??Such ignorance. Do pharmacist get any training in handling patients. The work of the pharmacist starts primarily in ur pharmaceutical companies and spills over to the hospital in as much as pertains to dispensing drugs. The squables of pharmacist fighting over control of hospital and all the other paramedics does not come up because they all know there is more money in the pharmacutical companies than the hospital itself. There is no where a pharmacist changes the write up of a patient and your so called 6 months training is all what the doctor needs to have an idea of the drugs he's prescribing. A doctor doesn't claim to have a better idea of pharmacology than a pharmacist but the pharmacotherapy. Nobody gets any training in handling poison. A poisioned patient presents at the hospital to a Doctor not a pharmacist my son. I have the highest respect for a pharmacist cos we're all professional colleagues..... Read up the word paramedics and understand the meaning of the word medical laboratory technologist(called medical lab scientist in Nigeria) All these other disciplines you're clamouring for we're brought up by Doctors to help them...Medical Lab Science dint arise by default....they were initally hospital assistants traind by Doctors to ASSIST. Understand that part & read it about it first before making comments about things you have a half baked idea about. |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by onagoodday1: 4:13pm On Jul 01, 2013 |
infolekan:q my good friend, so simply because doctors trained lab scientist( according to you), so scientist should and must remain perpetual slaves to doctors,my friend grow up and accept the fact that the profession has grown either by default or trained to a profession that can be on their own,...half baked idea my foot, do you think this the 19th century when you were dealing with lab assistants/technician,my dear this is the new world,the former lab assistant are now scientist,accept it and move on or step aside,the world is moving |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by Nobody: 7:59am On Jul 02, 2013 |
on a good day:do not abuse. doctors need knowledge of. pharmacology for them to prescribe. pharmacists prepare and dispense drugs. and in drug clinical trials pharmacists and doctors work as a team. pharmacists need doctors and vice versa. my only problem with pharmacists is that they do not allow pharmacologist to open pharmacy whereas in australia pharmacologist can open pharmacies. |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by Nobody: 8:06am On Jul 02, 2013 |
on a good day:but that does mean lab scientists should push pathologists out of laboratiries. in usa pathologists still direct laboratories. why lab scientists are arrogating lab to themselves? it is not fair. pathologists and scientists play dinstinct roles in laboratories. |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by Nobody: 8:18am On Jul 02, 2013 |
infolekan:all these problems are caused by earlier doctors who lack vision. in legal profession,paralegal workers have no recognition. legal profession is not fragmented as medical. my advice to doctors this is competitive world. and doctors will soon loose the monopoly over the healthsector. allied health workers are growning worldwide and will soon overshadow doctors. doctors must learn not to be overdepedent on allied health workers( nurses and pharmacists exclusice). they should team up with pharmacists and nurses to reposition health sectors. |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by onagoodday1: 8:42am On Jul 02, 2013 |
Laalamed: i am not abusing doctors,they my friends,amd i love a good no of them,the fact is that i am not cofortable with the archaic and redundant ones and their followers,having said that,if pharmacist do not allow pharmacologist to open a pharmacy,the two bodies are the same family so they should sort themselves out,if pathologist and meds have disagreements,they should sort outwithin their conclave,but when one profession wants to control the other,then it becomes unacceptable |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by Nobody: 8:43am On Jul 02, 2013 |
esidency programs for doctors need funding March 2, 2013|By Nina Radcliff What is the point of providing health insurance to all Americans if you do not have doctors available to take care of them? It is unclear if health care reform "forgot" to fund physician training due to poor planning, kicking the can down the road, or political prowess given the already huge price tag that the American taxpayer must bear. Without action now, we will face a shortage of more than 90,000 doctors by 2020. A doctor's training takes over a decade. It includes attaining a four- year undergraduate degree before attending another four years of medical school. Then, depending on the specialty field of medicine, an additional three to seven years of training are required, known as graduate medical education (GME), or residency. Medical schools have been able to proactively develop an action plan to increase admissions by 2016. This is because the costs will be covered by the student's tuition. Increasing the number of residency training spots, however, requires an act of Congress both literally and figuratively. These spots are paid by The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), a taxpayer funded entity. CMS pays an average of $100,000 per resident per year and has an annual price tag of $9.5 billion. If Congress does not act fast, we will have medical school graduates who cannot finish their training. The American Medical Association describes this as a "bottleneck" that will occur as early as 2015. Residency positions need to be strategically created. Doctors are more likely to settle and practice in the geographic area where they do their residency training. Thus, regional and state-specific needs should be identified. Every state has a vested interest in creating additional positions or programs. With the country's financial health in critical condition, one may ask is this really necessary? The answer is an absolute "yes." Achieving equitable access to quality health will require an adequate supply of intelligent, hard- working and highly trained physicians. But it requires a capital investment. Most physicians pay Uncle Sam six figures a year. Within a few years, they will have "paid off" what was invested into their training. Doctors are also frequently small business owners and employ at least three to five employees to run their clinic. Physicians need to contract with several businesses to provide services (e.g. billing, information technology, marketing). By funding residency training programs today, we will reap dividends down the road. Dr. Nina Radcliff is a member of the American Medical Association and American Society of Anesthesiologists in New Jersey. articles.sun-sentinel.com/2013-03-02/news/fl-readers-view-doctor-shortage-20130302_1_residency-programs-residency-positions-medical-school 1 Like |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by Nobody: 8:46am On Jul 02, 2013 |
How residency programs are funded By Janet Lavelle 06:00p.m. Jul 9, 2011 Training doctors as a shortage looms Physician compensation, by specialty Paying primary care doctors Since the 1960s, Medicare has paid for a substantial portion of medical residency programs. But in 1996, it limited the number of residents that would be funded to that year’s total, preventing any significant expansion of training programs since that time. Today, there are 110,000 doctors in residency training programs nationwide. About $12 billion a year is spent on training, with Medicare covering about $3 billion in direct costs. Other funds comes from clinical revenues, grants and other support. As Medicare and Medicaid payments continue to fall below the actual cost of providing care, “that clinical revenue stream, we think, will get tighter and tighter, making it harder for teaching hospitals to pay for more trainees,”said Dr. Atul Grover, chief advocacy officer for the Association of American Medical Colleges. Federal funding works this way: •The Direct Graduate Medical Education program uses a funding formula based on expenses, number of Medicare patients at a training hospital and number of resident trainees, all based on 1996 caps. •The Indirect Medical Education provides money to teaching hospitals in recognition of the higher costs involved in training doctors. The formula calculates the number of residents using 1996 caps, multiplied by per-resident funding set by Congress that has fluctuated over time. Medicare pays $6.5 billion a year through this program. •Pediatric residencies at children’s hospitals get funding from the Children’s Hospital Graduate Medical Training Program. The $300 million program was cut by $48 million this fiscal year as part of deficit reduction, Grover said. m.utsandiego.com/news/2011/Jul/09/how-residency-programs-are-funded/ 1 Like |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by Nobody: 11:12am On Jul 02, 2013 |
Laalamed: if usa could need more funding for residency programme what else could nigeria need? 1 Like |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by onagoodday1: 1:31pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
Laalamed: level playing field for all |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by Nobody: 3:04pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
on a good day: there is level playing field for all. the only problem is many are not satified with their position in life. complaints never solve problems. most people have low self-esteem that is why they feel they are not appreciated. there would always be inter and intraprofessional harmony in nigeria not only in health but in all fields of life. why? lord lugard wrote in his book dual mandate page 78 about nigerias and africans. " in character and temperament, the typical African of this race-type is a happy, thriftless, excitable person, lacking in self- control, discipline, and foresight. Naturally courageous, and naturally courteous and polite, full of personal vanity, with little sense of veracity, fond of music and loving weapons as an oriental loves jewellery. His thoughts are concentrated on the events and feelings of the moment, and he suffers little from the apprehension for the future or grief for the past. His mind is far nearer to the animal world than that of the European or Asiatic, and exhibits something of the animals' placidity and want of desire to rise beyond the state he has reached. "Through the ages, the African appears to have evolved no organised religious creed, and though some tribes appear to believe in a deity, the religious sense seldom rises above pantheistic animalism and seems more often to take the form of a vague dread of the supernatural. He lacks the power of organisation, and is conspicuously deficient in the management and control alike of men or business. He loves the display of power, but fails to realize its responsibility - he will work hard with a less incentive than most races. He has the courage of the fighting animal, an instinct rather than a moral virtue. In brief, the virtues and defects of his race -type are those of attractive children, whose confidence when it is won is given ungrudgingly as to an older and wiser superior and without envy. Perhaps, the two traits which have impressed me as those most characteristic of the African native are his lack of apprehension and his lack of ability to visualize the future" 1 Like |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by onagoodday1: 9:41pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
Laalamed: please, can you go through that lord lugard trash and then make your comment again objectively,however, if there is a level playing field there won't be agitation..naturally |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by eaglechild: 10:16pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
Laalamed:The bolded is the major problem we face with all the allied health workers. You clearly provided a link that shows the need for funding of doctors' training. I clearly tried to point out the peculiarities of residency training. However prejudice because of the bolded has blinded any reasoning. |
Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by onagoodday1: 8:30am On Jul 03, 2013 |
eaglechild: many people are not satisfied with position in life, becuase that is not their REAL position. many have have low self esteem and feel they are not appreciated, low self esteem is an individual thing,feel not appreciated becos if they were appreciated they wont feel not appreciated,they felt so because governance of health under medical drs. has a mission to keep them down while they reap the glory of thir hard work both in cash and otherwise |
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Re: Resident Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Action Today by chalse555: 11:14pm On May 04, 2017 |
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