SAAF Gripens tailing BAE Hawks in mid-KwaZulu Natal


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ncm6KoprQfM

frumentius:
Some preliminary African results from Vlad's International Army Games.

Patches689, looks like you were right: in the airborne event, lack of familiarity with the BMD-2, BTR-80 and BTR-82 saw us dropping from 3 to our current position. Stage 3 (combat vehicle pursuit) may see us drop further.

ThoroughTec delivers Badger simulators

Denel Land Systems has begun receiving high-fidelity training simulators for the South African Army's new Badger Infantry Combat Vehicle (ICV). The SA Army is set to receive 244 Badgers in different variants over the next few years and from the outset, simulator based training has formed an essential component of its mission system.

Durban-based ThoroughTec Simulation has spent several years developing and testing the latest evolution of its CYBERWAR range of Tactical Training Simulators, with the first production units now being delivered to Denel Land System's Lyttelton facility where Badger assembly takes place. In due course, these will be deployed to the SA Army's mechanised infantry training units.

Ultimately, ThoroughTec will deliver 28 Badger Training Simulator Systems, comprising both driver and turret crew training simulators, all of which are 100% locally designed and developed. Simulator variants for the Command, Missile, Mortar and Section variants of the Badger will be delivered, each replicating their unique capabilities and all designed to interact in a vast 1500 square kilometre virtual world.

The Badger simulators integrate vehicle, weapon and sensor performance models with ultra-realistic physical instruments and controls, so as to authentically replicate the Badger operational experience and completely immerse vehicle crews in the simulated training experience, ThoroughTec said.


"The training requirement for Badger crew members to successfully master their new mounts will be significantly higher than we've seen with older vehicles. Simulators are the natural choice to cost-effectively bridge this gap", said David Cooke, Vice President: Military at ThoroughTec.

"These simulators represent the culmination of more than two decades of simulator use by the South African Army," said Cooke. "In spite of the present focus on low-intensity, infantry-focused peace support operations, the SA Army is committed to maintaining a conventional, mechanised warfare capability. They have long recognised that simulation offers a cost effective and highly efficient means of keeping our armoured soldier's skills honed in the complex and costly art of high-mobility mechanised operations.

"The Badger Simulators will place trainees in a 'world' where they need to apply all of their equipment knowledge and tactical skills in order to 'survive', let alone win. The AI-Enemy is pretty unforgiving, so the guys really need to know their stuff and function as a cohesive team if they want any hope of getting through the exercises in one piece," noted Cooke.

Talk about simulators, I'm currently replaying Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising. I'm playing US Spec Ops in variety of missions from disabling SAMs, radio towers behind enemy lines to clearing flanks for mechanized (surprising the Chinese flanks on foot). Forget about Call of Duty and Battlefield rubbish, this is the approved simulator deal. 1 bullet takes you out at 400m. Bullet simulation is real, tactics are real. I feel like Frumentius for a second

NB: Operation Flashpoint and Arma 3 are what they use to train US soldiers while sitting on their butts.

ActivateKruger:
Talk about simulators, I'm currently replaying Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising. I'm playing US Spec Ops in variety of missions from disabling SAMs, radio towers behind enemy lines to clearing flanks for mechanized (surprising the Chinese flanks on foot). Forget about Call of Duty and Battlefield rubbish, this is the approved simulator deal. 1 bullet takes you out at 400m. Bullet simulation is real, tactics are real. I feel like Frumentius for a second

NB: Operation Flashpoint and Arma 3 are what they use to train US soldiers while sitting on their butts.

You should see what they have at Denel Dynamics to train drone pilots. Stare at those multiple screens long enough and you'll start looking for a wall to lean against, getting dizzy, thinking you're a few thousand feet up. I say no more.

Just a little something I did for the NAF
Will draw more thou

ID the little bird?

ssaengine:


You should see what they have at Denel Dynamics to train drone pilots. Stare at those multiple screens long enough and you'll start looking for a wall to lean against, getting dizzy, thinking you're a few thousand feet up. I say no more.

I gotta say I have respect for these guys. Developing a simulator is no joke. Myself and GreenandGold tried it (because the world wasn't producing "enough" games for us). You literally have to develop a game engine first then create the world with attention to detail, then fill it up with realistic textures before you even create the models (people, vehicles and all).... The game engine on its own can take a team of software engineers a year to develop (provided they're motivated by great salaries), the world can take years.... Then when you're done you'll get a 14-year-old online bitching about the gun sounds.. WTF

overhypedsteve:
you are surprised? You actually think I am not a patriot like you too? Well some of us like being realistic. We are tired of celebrating old achievements, it's time to break new grounds.

10 medals for you... you are smart

ssaengine:
ThoroughTec delivers Badger simulators

Denel Land Systems has begun receiving high-fidelity training simulators for the South African Army's new Badger Infantry Combat Vehicle (ICV). The SA Army is set to receive 244 Badgers in different variants over the next few years and from the outset, simulator based training has formed an essential component of its mission system.

Durban-based ThoroughTec Simulation has spent several years developing and testing the latest evolution of its CYBERWAR range of Tactical Training Simulators, with the first production units now being delivered to Denel Land System's Lyttelton facility where Badger assembly takes place. In due course, these will be deployed to the SA Army's mechanised infantry training units.

Ultimately, ThoroughTec will deliver 28 Badger Training Simulator Systems, comprising both driver and turret crew training simulators, all of which are 100% locally designed and developed. Simulator variants for the Command, Missile, Mortar and Section variants of the Badger will be delivered, each replicating their unique capabilities and all designed to interact in a vast 1500 square kilometre virtual world.

The Badger simulators integrate vehicle, weapon and sensor performance models with ultra-realistic physical instruments and controls, so as to authentically replicate the Badger operational experience and completely immerse vehicle crews in the simulated training experience, ThoroughTec said.


"The training requirement for Badger crew members to successfully master their new mounts will be significantly higher than we've seen with older vehicles. Simulators are the natural choice to cost-effectively bridge this gap", said David Cooke, Vice President: Military at ThoroughTec.

"These simulators represent the culmination of more than two decades of simulator use by the South African Army," said Cooke. "In spite of the present focus on low-intensity, infantry-focused peace support operations, the SA Army is committed to maintaining a conventional, mechanised warfare capability. They have long recognised that simulation offers a cost effective and highly efficient means of keeping our armoured soldier's skills honed in the complex and costly art of high-mobility mechanised operations.

"The Badger Simulators will place trainees in a 'world' where they need to apply all of their equipment knowledge and tactical skills in order to 'survive', let alone win. The AI-Enemy is pretty unforgiving, so the guys really need to know their stuff and function as a cohesive team if they want any hope of getting through the exercises in one piece," noted Cooke.

glorified video games..... mtscheeeeeeeewwewww

lionel4power:
glorified video games..... mtscheeeeeeeewwewww

Maybe not.

The Badger simulator is a physically built Badger internal layout. You'll have your steering wheel, pedals, firing system like you'll find in the actual vehicle. Only the external world would be "video games".

But however, the "video game" world is designed to be like the actual world (maybe southern Africa). The physics would be realistic ie behavior of objects (like ammunition) in relation to gravity and wind. 20mm shells would behave different from 76mm shells (and on) like they would in the real world.

Then you'll have real time networking with other Badger "players"... If the system is a cross platform, other simulators (like the navy and airforce) are also synchronised. There's no respawns, dramatic music or any Hollywood effect besides the sounds of engines and shells.

Since being in the simulator is "free" then you can have your machinized training over and over without firing expensive shells and missiles.

lionel4power:
glorified video games..... mtscheeeeeeeewwewww

That will save a life. Pew pew

Its called entering the 21st century.

ActivateKruger:


I gotta say I have respect for these guys. Developing a simulator is no joke. Myself and GreenandGold tried it (because the world wasn't producing "enough" games for us). You literally have to develop a game engine first then create the world with attention to detail, then fill it up with realistic textures before you even create the models (people, vehicles and all).... The game engine on its own can take a team of software engineers a year to develop (provided they're motivated by great salaries), the world can take years.... Then when you're done you'll get a 14-year-old online bitching about the gun sounds.. WTF

Whether the Denel simulators are built in house or procured is "beyond the scope of this course", but I get you.

Since we're on the topic of simulators.

http://cadefence.com/project/periscope-simulator/


Cybicom Atlas Defence, in conjunction with the South African Navy, has developed a periscope simulator (PSIM) to provide training for the Zeiss Sero 400 Attack Periscope found onboard the Heroine Class Submarines.
The PSIM consists of a ceiling mounted mock Zeiss Sero 400 Ocular Box and Instructor Work Station (IWS). The PSIM Ocular Box has been constructed according to specification using a combination of computer-aided design and CNC machined and welded sheet-metal to achieve the best look and feel of the onboard attack periscope while adhering to stringent budgetary constraints.

The PSIM Ocular Box houses the PSIM Ocular Box IG and associated electronics and optics.
The PSIM Ocular Box is capable of hydraulic eye height adjustment and incorporates AC motors, inverter drives

The PSIM IWS includes the PSIM IWS IG, which provides the instructor a view of the mirrored generated images of the scenario as seen by the operator/student from the PSIM Ocular Box IG. The PSIM IWS also includes the PSIM IWS Scenario Manager, which allows control of the following features:

Features

Aircraft (fixed and rotational wing) Movement
Ship Vessel Movement
Man Overboard
Day and Night Simulation
Accurate Rise and Set times for Sun and Moon
Wind Speed and Direction
Sea States 0 – 8
Cloud Cover 0/8 – 8/8
Precipitation
Fog/Haze/Visibility
Time of Day
Scenario Playback
Audio Recording over the Intercom System
On-the-fly control for Aircraft and Ship Vessel Movement
Ship vessel Bow Spray and Wake
Dipping Sonar
Navigation Lights for Vessels
Land based Light Simulation (light houses, harbors etc.)
Accurate placement of Points of Interest (beacons etc.)
Accurate Terrain Modeling

ActivateKruger:



Maybe not.

The Badger simulator is a physically built Badger internal layout. You'll have your steering wheel, pedals, firing system like you'll find in the actual vehicle. Only the external world would be "video games".

But however, the "video game" world is designed to be like the actual world (maybe southern Africa). The physics would be realistic ie behavior of objects (like ammunition) in relation to gravity and wind. 20mm shells would behave different from 76mm shells (and on) like they would in the real world.

Then you'll have real time networking with other Badger "players"... If the system is a cross platform, other simulators (like the navy and airforce) are also synchronised. There's no respawns, dramatic music or any Hollywood effect besides the sounds of engines and shells.

Since being in the simulator is "free" then you can have your machinized training over and over without firing expensive shells and missiles.

sounds like a 3D video game

Egyptian air force jets escorting American air force B-1 Bomber

A Kuwaiti & Egyptian pilots on F/A-18D multirole combat jet during "Yarmouk-3" joint air training

lionel4power:
sounds like a 3D video game

Not if you're going to write a report on how you and your team lost a battle or a mission. This is not "boys are having a good time with beer" kinda moment. There's shouting, frustration, vehicle shakes on hydrolics and the possibility of it being virtually stuck in a "donga" or fall off or roll because of bad navigation. Then you'll have to prepare a report on how you lost a multimillion dollar vehicle with Ingwe missiles onboard.(remember everything is recorded)

If you're in that Badger simulator, you'll be physically shaken by the virtual terrain with a possibility of physical nausea. A team member would perform his best for a possible higher ranking position, the vehicle shooter will likely to refine his skill because who wants a low accuracy hit probability on his real life score point. There's hundreds of soldiers gunning for a recommendation, so you don't screw up every chance you get (simulator included).

Djibouti GIGN with a french SF training

algerian Buk M2 in the last exercice

ssaengine:
Since we're on the topic of simulators.

http://cadefence.com/project/periscope-simulator/


Cybicom Atlas Defence, in conjunction with the South African Navy, has developed a periscope simulator (PSIM) to provide training for the Zeiss Sero 400 Attack Periscope found onboard the Heroine Class Submarines.
The PSIM consists of a ceiling mounted mock Zeiss Sero 400 Ocular Box and Instructor Work Station (IWS). The PSIM Ocular Box has been constructed according to specification using a combination of computer-aided design and CNC machined and welded sheet-metal to achieve the best look and feel of the onboard attack periscope while adhering to stringent budgetary constraints.

The PSIM Ocular Box houses the PSIM Ocular Box IG and associated electronics and optics.
The PSIM Ocular Box is capable of hydraulic eye height adjustment and incorporates AC motors, inverter drives

The PSIM IWS includes the PSIM IWS IG, which provides the instructor a view of the mirrored generated images of the scenario as seen by the operator/student from the PSIM Ocular Box IG. The PSIM IWS also includes the PSIM IWS Scenario Manager, which allows control of the following features:

Features

Aircraft (fixed and rotational wing) Movement
Ship Vessel Movement
Man Overboard
Day and Night Simulation
Accurate Rise and Set times for Sun and Moon
Wind Speed and Direction
Sea States 0 – 8
Cloud Cover 0/8 – 8/8
Precipitation
Fog/Haze/Visibility
Time of Day
Scenario Playback
Audio Recording over the Intercom System
On-the-fly control for Aircraft and Ship Vessel Movement
Ship vessel Bow Spray and Wake
Dipping Sonar
Navigation Lights for Vessels
Land based Light Simulation (light houses, harbors etc.)
Accurate placement of Points of Interest (beacons etc.)
Accurate Terrain Modeling

I like the sh*t our guys are developing. This is world class.

ActivateKruger:


Not if you're going to write a report on how you and your team lost a battle or a mission. This is not "boys are having a good time with beer" kinda moment. There's shouting, frustration, vehicle shakes on hydrolics and the possibility of it being virtually stuck in a "donga" or fall off or roll because of bad navigation. Then you'll have to prepare a report on how you lost a multimillion dollar vehicle with Ingwe missiles onboard.(remember everything is recorded)

If you're in that Badger simulator, you'll be physically shaken by the virtual terrain with a possibility of physical nausea. A team member would perform his best for a possible higher ranking position, the vehicle shooter will likely to refine his skill because who wants a low accuracy hit probability on his real life score point. There's hundreds of soldiers gunning for a recommendation, so you don't screw up every chance you get (simulator included).

bro... t stand easy. I know the value of a simulator especially the ones for fighter jets with multiple axis motions.

I just wanted a laugh

Algerian1:
Djibouti GIGN with a french SF training

I wonder how tactically relevant is foreign training to local African conflicts. Eg, such "close pack" movement would likely be discouraged by direct RPG and HMG fire which is a reality in these parts of the world vs maybe France... One wonders.

Yummy...

lionel4power:
bro... t stand easy. I know the value of a simulator especially the ones for fighter jets with multiple axis motions.

I just wanted a laugh

But honestly, I would like to have a military simulator in my house, screw my girlfriend

ssaengine:
Yummy...

Is that an A-Darter?

ActivateKruger:


Is that an A-Darter?

Yep

ssaengine:


Yep

Oooh sweet

Nigeria Army

ssaengine:
Yummy...

Also, the Electric Warfare (EW) suit parts are developed and supplied by Grintek... Now we can officially throw a braai on behalf of the South-African nerds.

This Aircraft carriers berth at this harbour can equal the cost of all African navies hardware's put together.

According to this report, Cape Town is likely one of the best places to run to if Donald Trump decides to start a nuclear WWIII with North Korea.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/1981979/here-are-nine-of-the-safest-places-in-the-world-to-survive-a-third-world-war/

As for me, I'm less likely to live in the waterless Cape.

frumentius:
Some preliminary African results from Vlad's International Army Games.

We should do well in the sniper frontier and depth competitions!!