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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Algerian1(m): 4:44pm On Jan 03
C 130 , 21 december 2017 at munich , Algerian AF

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Algerian1(m): 4:45pm On Jan 03
Moroccan F 16 with 2 AIM-9X & 2 GBU bombs and ET fuel , CFT

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ssaengine: 4:50pm On Jan 03
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by frumentius: 5:23pm On Jan 03
What the hell is a man in his mid-70s doing hiking on Cathedral Peak in the Drakensberg? SAPS chopper went down in strong winds trying to reach and rescue this idi0t. Crew okay though.
DRAKENSBERG - A foreign tourist, in his mid-70s, has fallen to his death in the central Drakensberg.

It's believed the man fell from a hiking path near the Drakensberg Sun resort on Thursday.

He was only reported missing Friday morning when his tour party noticed he was absent and raised the alarm.
https://www.enca.com/south-africa/foreign-tourist-falls-to-his-death-in-the-drakensberg

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 6:39pm On Jan 03
another airstrike conducted by US against alshabaab jan 3, 2018

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 7:34pm On Jan 03
frumentius:
What the hell is a man in his mid-70s doing hiking on Cathedral Peak in the Drakensberg? SAPS chopper went down in strong winds trying to reach and rescue this idi0t. Crew okay though.

https://www.enca.com/south-africa/foreign-tourist-falls-to-his-death-in-the-drakensberg

Unfortunate Incident

However, the old man might have been nagged to stupor by his wife undecided

undecided my question remains unanswered
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 7:39pm On Jan 03
Odunayaw:
Unfortunate Incident

However, the old man might have been nagged to stupor by his wife undecided

undecided my question remains unanswered
You just type nonsense all over the pages, contributing nothing.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by frumentius: 7:48pm On Jan 03
Odunayaw:
Unfortunate Incident

However, the old man might have been nagged to stupor by his wife undecided

undecided my question remains unanswered

Nothing unfortunate about it, sadly. From what I hear the resort's hiking guides refused to take him on account of both the strenuous trail and his age. He struck out on his own on Thursday, and was noticed missing only at breakfast Friday morning.

Another question I missed?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by frumentius: 7:49pm On Jan 03
kabe1:

You just type nonsense all over the pages, contributing nothing.

Thank you for your contribution.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 8:11pm On Jan 03
kabe1:

You just type nonsense all over the pages, contributing nothing.
Get a life my friend
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 8:11pm On Jan 03
frumentius:


Nothing unfortunate about it, sadly. From what I hear the resort's hiking guides refused to take him on account of both the strenuous trail and his age. He struck out on his own on Thursday, and was noticed missing only at breakfast Friday morning.

Another question I missed?
Yeah...the question about Taylor's visit
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by frumentius: 8:15pm On Jan 03
Odunayaw:
Yeah...the question about Taylor's visit

You mean the last real African giants, presidents Mbeki and Obasanjo going to Monrovia to tell Taylor to vamoose?

Was your question here or over on bidexiii's thread?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 8:20pm On Jan 03
frumentius:


You mean the last real African giants, presidents Mbeki and Obasanjo going to Monrovia to tell Taylor to vamoose?

Was your question here or over on bidexiii's thread?
the question was on here. the team from Nigeria that provided security, was it SF?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:40pm On Jan 03
Odunayaw:
Get a life my friend
I do.

You should direct that comment to yourself. You don't have a semblance of a life outside this thread. You constantly spend days upon days here.

No future, no nothing. I feel so sorry for you.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:42pm On Jan 03
Odunayaw:
the question was on here. the team from Nigeria that provided security, was it SF?
There was no Nigerian SF team then, dummy!

You had better concentrate on your books.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by frumentius: 9:13pm On Jan 03
Odunayaw:
grin
Meanwhile..back in 2003 when our presidents paid Taylor a visit was it a Nigerian SF team that rolled with the recces?

Found it.
No it wasn't. From what I recall, you guys deployed a company of paratroopers which was part of a battalion group you already had in-country. I speak under correction here but I think Paras were the closest thing you had to SF as you didn't have dedicated SF back then.

Our advance team actually stayed at your base in Monrovia. The initial plan was for one Commando (53 Commando) out of 5 Recce to provide close-in protection for Mbeki, but intel from your guys said otherwise. What transpired operationally was your Paras securing all the routes from the airport to Taylor's residence, 53 and 54 Commando providing the escort for both presidents, and SAPS STF backing up the presidential protection services of both countries in the close-in protection role in the inner perimeter.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by frumentius: 9:19pm On Jan 03
kabe1:

There was no Nigerian SF team then, dummy!

You had better concentrate on your books.

Does it take anything away from you replying to Odunayo civilly?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by frumentius: 9:55pm On Jan 03
"By deception we wage war"; "be-tachbūlōt ta`aseh lekhā milchāmāh"; (Hebrew: בתחבולות תעשה לך מלחמה‎).

Until recently this was Mossad's motto. Nothing's changed, it seems.
Now it appears we may get UN approval to sell Umkhonto GBADS to Iran, suddenly stories appear about terror plots involving Palestinians, Iran and South Africa.

I'll end this with another quote:

"Oh what a tangled web we weave when at first we start to deceive."

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Habane(m): 10:07pm On Jan 03
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 10:14pm On Jan 03
kabe1:

I do.

You should direct that comment to yourself. You don't have a semblance of a life outside this thread. You constantly spend days upon days here.

No future, no nothing. I feel so sorry for you.
Ok
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 10:15pm On Jan 03
kabe1:
There was no Nigerian SF team then, dummy!
You had better concentrate on your books.
OK
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 10:16pm On Jan 03
frumentius:


Found it.
No it wasn't. From what I recall, you guys deployed a company of paratroopers which was part of a battalion group you already had in-country. I speak under correction here but I think Paras were the closest thing you had to SF as you didn't have dedicated SF back then.

Our advance team actually stayed at your base in Monrovia. The initial plan was for one Commando (53 Commando) out of 5 Recce to provide close-in protection for Mbeki, but intel from your guys said otherwise. What transpired operationally was your Paras securing all the routes from the airport to Taylor's residence, 53 and 54 Commando providing the escort for both presidents, and SAPS STF backing up the presidential protection services of both countries in the close-in protection role in the inner perimeter.
Ah, detailed explanation
Had a quite serious argument with a lad on how "para =/= SF"
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 10:24pm On Jan 03
frumentius:
"By deception we wage war"; "be-tachbūlōt ta`aseh lekhā milchāmāh"; (Hebrew: בתחבולות תעשה לך מלחמה‎).

Until recently this was Mossad's motto. Nothing's changed, it seems.
Now it appears we may get UN approval to sell Umkhonto GBADS to Iran, suddenly stories appear about terror plots involving Palestinians, Iran and South Africa.

I'll end this with another quote:

"Oh what a tangled web we weave when at first we start to deceive."

How many of these does SANDF operate?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by frumentius: 10:28pm On Jan 03
Habane:
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Read that as well. And these are the same guys who stole our Mokopa missile plans and said they'd only return them in exchange for us releasing 2 imprisoned SA spies of theirs and flying them to Tel Aviv.

Also, some of their assassination squad on the Hamas man in Dubai had fraudulent SA passports and used OR Tambo International Airport as one of their egress airports after the deed.

Oh! and set up an SA-based front company - Tiger Wheel and Tyre - for their espionage activities throughout the entire SADC region.

And they claim Iran has set up a base here! Everyone has a base here - to be expected seeing we have the most embassies after Washington, D.C.!!!

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by frumentius: 10:43pm On Jan 03
tdayof:


How many of these does SANDF operate?

We only operate it on our naval platforms, and have sold it to the Finland and Algeria Navies. The Army partly funded the ground platform and will take it into service when funds allow. In the meantime, SAAB's been so impressed they signed a deal with Denel to pair it with the SAAB AMB Giraffe radar. So countries in favour with the West will get it as Denel Umkhonto + SAAB Giraffe; and those out of favour will get the completely SA solution of Denel Umkhonto + Reutech radar.

Just like the Paramount AHRLAC: US-approved clients get AHRLAC + Boeing Mission System; non-ITAR get AHRLAC + Paramount Mission System - same one on Airbus military systems.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Habane(m): 10:45pm On Jan 03
frumentius:

Read that as well. And these are the same guys who stole our Mokopa missile plans and said they'd only return them in exchange for us releasing 2 imprisoned SA spies of theirs and flying them to Tel Aviv.

Also, some of their assassination squad on the Hamas man in Dubai had fraudulent SA passports and used OR Tambo International Airport as one of their egress airports after the deed.

Oh! and set up an SA-based front company - Tiger Wheel and Tyre - for their espionage activities throughout the entire SADC region.

And they claim Iran has set up a base here! Everyone has a base here - to be expected seeing we have the most embassies after Washington, D.C.!!!
I thought it was a joke when i first read it this afternoon, what an interesting time to be alive.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by sconp: 10:47pm On Jan 03
Often heard about this intel stealing among countries. Can anyone refer me to a link where i can read about any detailed intel stealing mission.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by frumentius: 10:53pm On Jan 03
Odunayaw:
Ah, detailed explanation
Had a quite serious argument with a lad on how "para =/= SF"

Detailed because it was an overt mission and some details have been released since the statutory restrictions from 2003 have expired on such mission types. Can't wait for the Gbagbo/Cote d'Ivoire and Libya missions to expire.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by frumentius: 10:58pm On Jan 03
sconp:
Often heard about this intel stealing among countries. Can anyone refer me to a link where i can read about any detailed intel stealing mission.

Al-Jazeera posted an entire tranche of leaked documents involving the SA spy agency and other agencies, including Mossad, FSB, CIA, MI6, etc.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by sconp: 11:06pm On Jan 03
frumentius:


Al-Jazeera posted an entire tranche of leaked documents involving the SA spy agency and other agencies, including Mossad, FSB, CIA, MI6, etc.
thanks would look into it
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by frumentius: 11:44pm On Jan 03
Odunayaw:
Had a quite serious argument with a lad on how "para =/= SF"

For very many small militaries, Paras constitute an elite capability. Patchesagain will disagree vehemently, but I think we should change our ORBAT. I think 1Parabat should be a strategic asset - Support Unit to the Recces, if you like. Akin to the US 3/75 Rangers as a SOF unit.
The Army can raise up 2Parabat as an elite unit under their direct command. The Pathfinders - a company of Parabats currently trained up to almost Recce standard - can stay with the Army as 2Parabat's operational link with the Recces.

Where applicable, equip 1Parabat same as the Recces, acquire economies of scale and get everything cheaper as you're no longer buying for less than about 300 men but for a battalion.

And while you're at it, do the same thing with the Marines, as that's where 4 Recce is now attracting most of their recruits.
Just my thoughts, but what do I know, I'm a lowly cog who's thinking of going into civvie street soon.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by LTGEN: 11:58pm On Jan 03
frumentius:


Detailed because it was an overt mission and some details have been released since the statutory restrictions from 2003 have expired on such mission types. Can't wait for the Gbagbo/Cote d'Ivoire and Libya missions to expire.
Amen

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