jl115:
There are better and cheaper CAS platforms

Cheaper of course..better in CAS roles maybe not..however thats just my own opinion...which better ones if u dont mind me asking?

neyobills:



The idea of it been outdated is a joke on you,have u ever heard of the word upgrades,The Abrams MBT was produced in the 1980,s just like this airframe produced in the 1970s and the Abrams is still in use in Ukraine as i type this,the reason it is been decommissioned is because it is been replaced by the F-35 Lightning multirole jets,the cost of maintenace is low perhaps lower than the super Tucano at just 20kUSD per flight hour,it is clearly stated in my prior statement that is would be a game changer in counter insurgency operations,never said its multi purpose....(or do insurgents in Nigeria now have superior airpower?)if it is to be decommisioned then the US would be willing to sell a few to willing nations of course,in the case on Nigeria,we have genocidal cases against the military however with some diplomatic intervention we should be able to get it.

Yeah, right, whatever. The Nigerian Airforce will not be getting the A-10 Warthogs whether you cry about it or not. Why I said it shouldn’t be purchased because it’s not multipurpose…?? Did you give thought to long term use of procured platforms...?? This is 2024, literally anything can happen.
Nigeria is almost surrounded by foreign military bases of major powers. Take for instance the installation of S-300 air defence systems in Niger. Who knows why they are there…?? But let’s assume the Nigerien military government employed the help of Russian forces or Wagner PMC to protect the government from being overthrown, If we had the A-10 Warthogs, and the president decides to proceed with the ECOWAS intervention against military rule in Niger, how are the pilots supposed to protect themselves from incoming air defence missiles…??
Speaking of outdated, if upgrades can keep a 1980s aircraft fit, why then is the US military replacing them. They could have continued with upgrades and kept on flying them. It’s as if you are saying, Nigerian Airforce should keep on flying its alpha jet fleet. As long as they get upgrades, they are good to go. In 2024, dey play.
And what was it you were saying about genocidal cases in the Nigerian military…?? You think the US cares about Nigerian military casualties…?? The same US that has been delaying the delivery of the AH-1Z attack helicopters despite the pleas from Nigerian officials that it is required urgently…??
If the US didn’t sell the A-10 Warthogs to some of their allies who were interested in buying especially NATO allies, you think they will sell it to us…??
Even if they sell it to us, they will still dictate how it is used. 24x M346FA jets and 12 A-29 Super Tucanos, Insha Allah no breathing space for insurgents.

jl115:

1. ridiculous statement, SA is far ahead in all development indexes.

2. Excluding small island nations SA is the most developed African nation, it's also considered a NIC, Also SA is ahead of India wrt to Global innovation index, above India in terms of Quality of infrastructure index, above in HDI, above in LPI...should I go on?

3.Did you do any research at all before typing this? SA is not that far behind India in terms of diversification and ranks 42nd in the world

4. not disputed

5. What?

6. In SA you can own a gun if you get a license, right to bear arms isn't in the constitution

Just to add.

India only outranks SA in areas where her disproportionately large population gives her the advantage.

SA far outranks India in:

Nominal GDP per capita
PPP per capita
GDP-PPP per capita
Electricity generation per Capita
Government spending per capita
Average Personal income.
Minimum wage.

Take note @Goel

neyobills:


Its cost only 20K USD per flight hour so u can do the math on how cheap the operational costs can get

Bruh thats around the same cost of operating an F16.

It's way more expensive than running an A29

Exnavyboy62:


Yeah, right, whatever. The Nigerian Airforce will not be getting the A-10 Warthogs whether you cry about it or not. Why I said it shouldn’t be purchased because it’s not multipurpose…?? Did you give thought to long term use of procured platforms...?? This is 2024, literally anything can happen.
Nigeria is almost surrounded by foreign military bases of major powers. Take for instance the installation of S-300 air defence systems in Niger. Who knows why they are there…?? But let’s assume the Nigerien military government employed the help of Russian forces or Wagner PMC to protect the government from being overthrown, If we had the A-10 Warthogs, and the president decides to proceed with the ECOWAS intervention against military rule in Niger, how are the pilots supposed to protect themselves from incoming air defence missiles…??
Speaking of outdated, if upgrades can keep a 1980s aircraft fit, why then is the US military replacing them. They could have continued with upgrades and kept on flying them. It’s as if you are saying, Nigerian Airforce should keep on flying its alpha jet fleet. As long as they get upgrades, they are good to go. In 2024, dey play.
And what was it you were saying about genocidal cases in the Nigerian military…?? You think the US cares about Nigerian military casualties…?? The same US that has been delaying the delivery of the AH-1Z attack helicopters despite the pleas from Nigerian officials that it is required urgently…??
If the US didn’t sell the A-10 Warthogs to some of their allies who were interested in buying especially NATO allies, you think they will sell it to us…??
Even if they sell it to us, they will still dictate how it is used. 24x M346FA jets and 12 A-29 Super Tucanos, Insha Allah no breathing space for insurgents.

First point is that i never said its multipurpose,i said it will be a game changer in COIN operations,so this your multipurpose of a thing is totally off point,the A-10 still has potentials on long term use in terms on counter offensive operations in conventional wars if literally anything happens as this is 2024 because the A-10 is still a legendary MBT and armored vehicles destroyer.

Take for instance the installation of the S-300 defence system in Niger,by your assumption that Nigeria decides to proceed with the Ecowas intervention what advantage does the 24xM346FA jets and the 12 super Tucanos over a fleet of Warthogs in enemy airspace.

The US military is replacing them by the F-35,and they are doing this not because they have become obsolete,there are debating in congress about whether to donate a few to the Ukraine military and sell the rest,some congressmen want them still in service,some want them sold,so your idea of them been obsolete is far from it.

Oh so u are crying about the sales of the AH-1Z Viper which is at least a generation older than the Warthog now yet you are saying Nigeria doesnt need a much more legendary battle tested alternative....once again dont forget to highlight what advantage does the M346FA and the Super Tucano have over there Warthog

Faithful007:
Bruh thats around the same cost of operating an F16.

It's way more expensive than running an A29

Oh well its slightly below the running cost of a F16 However the F-16 is way more pricey to acquire than the Warthog

neyobills:


Oh well its slightly below the running cost of a F16 However the F-16 is way more pricey to acquire than the Warthog

Bros forget this argument it's not selling.

iblawi:


Bros forget this argument it's not selling.

Looks like the rant of someone bereft of any more points or ideas

neyobills:


Looks like the rant of someone bereft of any more points or ideas

Man1960 is back. young man abeg rest, you go just dey type everything wey Google tell you. (Neyovills) all this small small boys wey their brain still dey hot

neyobills:


First point is that i never said its multipurpose,i said it will be a game changer in COIN operations,so this your multipurpose of a thing is totally off point,the A-10 still has potentials on long term use in terms on counter offensive operations in conventional wars if literally anything happens as this is 2024 because the A-10 is still a legendary MBT and armored vehicles destroyer.

Take for instance the installation of the S-300 defence system in Niger,by your assumption that Nigeria decides to proceed with the Ecowas intervention what advantage does the 24xM346FA jets and the 12 super Tucanos over a fleet of Warthogs in enemy airspace.

The US military is replacing them by the F-35,and they are doing this not because they have become obsolete,there are debating in congress about whether to donate a few to the Ukraine military and sell the rest,some congressmen want them still in service,some want them sold,so your idea of them been obsolete is far from it.

Oh so u are crying about the sales of the AH-1Z Viper which is at least a generation older than the Warthog now yet you are saying Nigeria doesnt need a much more legendary battle tested alternative....once again dont forget to highlight what advantage does the M346FA and the Super Tucano have over there Warthog

US military replacing A10 with F35? completely different aircraft one meant for air superiority and strike missions, while the other is meant only for close air support. The US Military is not replacing the A10 (at least not with a similar plane) but they are considering using something similar to the tucano for CAS which is much cheaper to operate and maintain. AH1Z (this is the most advanced version which the marines started flying in 2010) is one of the most advanced helicopters currently in the world.

abbati19:


US military replacing A10 with F35? completely different aircraft one meant for air superiority and strike missions, while the other is meant only for close air support. The US Military is not replacing the A10 (at least not with a similar plane) but they are considering using something similar to the tucano for CAS (Textron's AT-6 Wolverine) which is much cheaper to operate and maintain. AH1Z (this is the most advanced version which the marines started flying in 2010) is one of the most advanced helicopters currently in the world.

Basically i hate to argue with ITK,s like you,the F-35 is a multirole aircraft i just sent you the screenshot from the USAF themselves,or probably you are the JCOS chairman in the US so u know better right,this is a public forum,try to learn about stuff first before displaying your ignorance,dont let your fingers be faster than whats between your ears.

neyobills:


Basically i hate to argue with ITK,s like you,the F-35 is a multirole aircraft i just sent you the screenshot from the USAF themselves,or probably you are the JCOS chairman in the US so u know better right,this is a public forum,try to learn about stuff first before displaying your ignorance,dont let your fingers be faster than whats between your ears.

https://www.sandboxx.us/news/f-35-versus-a-10-showdown-revived-as-new-documents-come-to-light/

“The ability of the F-35 to replace the A-10 has never been demonstrated,” he wrote. “Further, Air Force leaders have yet to take even preliminary steps to prepare their F-35 pilots to perform the most important combat role with which they have been entrusted.”

That’s not how the Air Force sees it, though. Last year, Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall called the A-10 “an old aircraft” that was “not survivable against modern threats,” joining the service’s yearslong call for the plane’s retirement. Kendall has since added that the aircraft “doesn’t scare China.”

These statements get to the heart of the greatest tension in defense planning and investment: should services continue to spend on what they know has worked in past conflicts, or pour resources into the tools and systems they believe will serve them well in the future. The F-35 is built for standoff missions against sophisticated near-peer foes; it’s not made to specialize in dogfights or close air support. The war in Ukraine illustrates the challenges of close air support on a modern battlefield where both sides have effective anti-aircraft weapons. Yet critics of the move to retire the A-10s rightly point out that having no direct replacement leaves the U.S. military vulnerable if an operational need for close air support does arise.

The Air Force’s current plan has all A-10s headed to the boneyard by 2029. The newly public flyoff report makes clear that the move leaves many questions unanswered about what will happen when the era of the Warthog ends.

abbati19:


https://www.sandboxx.us/news/f-35-versus-a-10-showdown-revived-as-new-documents-come-to-light/

“The ability of the F-35 to replace the A-10 has never been demonstrated,” he wrote. “Further, Air Force leaders have yet to take even preliminary steps to prepare their F-35 pilots to perform the most important combat role with which they have been entrusted.”

That’s not how the Air Force sees it, though. Last year, Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall called the A-10 “an old aircraft” that was “not survivable against modern threats,” joining the service’s yearslong call for the plane’s retirement. Kendall has since added that the aircraft “doesn’t scare China.”

These statements get to the heart of the greatest tension in defense planning and investment: should services continue to spend on what they know has worked in past conflicts, or pour resources into the tools and systems they believe will serve them well in the future. The F-35 is built for standoff missions against sophisticated near-peer foes; it’s not made to specialize in dogfights or close air support. The war in Ukraine illustrates the challenges of close air support on a modern battlefield where both sides have effective anti-aircraft weapons. Yet critics of the move to retire the A-10s rightly point out that having no direct replacement leaves the U.S. military vulnerable if an operational need for close air support does arise.

The Air Force’s current plan has all A-10s headed to the boneyard by 2029. The newly public flyoff report makes clear that the move leaves many questions unanswered about what will happen when the era of the Warthog ends.

First i debunked your statement that the F-35 cannot perform CAS operations,the F-35 is multirole and can effectively perform CAS operations now u are trying to shift the goalpost by posting an article that is saying something different,basically the US doesnt have insurgency issues within their borders so most of the pilots havent been trained on how to use the F-35 for CAS,thats what the article is saying to break it down for you....The owner of something is saying he want to replace A with B you are here crying...go hold am for hand naaa.

neyobills:


The advantages are enormous.

The most remarkable advantage of the Warthog is that the cockpit is protected by titanium aircraft armour so it has the ability to survive under intense ground fire compared to the Tucanos hence increases safety of pilot and flight control instruments.

It carries a 30 mm Gatlin gun and it is the heaviest automatic cannon ever mounted on an aircraft which means the Warthog has superior firepower compared to the Tucanos

The Warthog has a munitions payload capacity of over 7000kg the A-29 a munitions capacity of 1550 kg which means it has the ability to carry different types of armaments compared to the Tucano

The Warthog is also faster than the Super Tucanos as it has a maximum speed of 706km/h,the Super Tucanos have a maximum speed of 590km/h

The A-29 is a multi-purpose platform, it can perform Recon, Attack, Training, CAS and has a low operating cost.

The A-10 is not even the best in it's class, we can all see that the SU-25 is a better more survivable close air support platform.

That's why I first asked you what capability will the A-10 provide that we don't already have? None!!

What is the rate of fire of a gatlin gun, and why do you think the Nigerian Army abandoned it?

We cannot afford a one trick pony with a high operational cost.

COIN operations don't need aircrafts to be fast, this is not Ukraine.

Both the A-29 and A-10 are subsonic, however the A-29 has the ability to provide ground forces with continuous recon and strike capabilities for an extended period. Exactly what we need.

So I ask again, what capability is the A-29 going to provide that we don't already have?

neyobills:



The idea of it been outdated is a joke on you,have u ever heard of the word upgrades,The Abrams MBT was produced in the 1980,s just like this airframe produced in the 1970s and the Abrams is still in use in Ukraine as i type this,the reason it is been decommissioned is because it is been replaced by the F-35 Lightning multirole jets,the cost of maintenace is low perhaps lower than the super Tucano at just 20kUSD per flight hour,it is clearly stated in my prior statement that is would be a game changer in counter insurgency operations,never said its multi purpose....(or do insurgents in Nigeria now have superior airpower?)if it is to be decommisioned then the US would be willing to sell a few to willing nations of course,in the case on Nigeria,we have genocidal cases against the military however with some diplomatic intervention we should be able to get it.

The idea of the A-10 is outdated. The A-10 was designed and built for killing Soviet tanks, however in today's environment it will struggle against manpads, network air defense systems and EW interferences.

The A-10 will not do better than the current platforms we already have in service. It is an expensive aircraft to fly, it's availability is also be suspect in a Nigerian environment.

The A-29's are better for the roles we need, the M-346 which will replace our alpha jets and L-39s also are superior to the A-10.

neyobills:


Cheaper of course..better in CAS roles maybe not..however thats just my own opinion...which better ones if u dont mind me asking?

Cheaper definitely, better definitely.

An ideal CAS platform should be able to provide Recon, CAS, Network Centric (Commanders in Maid should be able to see the targets in Gwoza), and Air Interdiction.

The A-10 can only perform two of the above roles while the A-29 can perform all of them.

neyobills:


First i debunked your statement that the F-35 cannot perform CAS operations,the F-35 is multirole and can effectively perform CAS operations now u are trying to shift the goalpost by posting an article that is saying something different,basically the US doesnt have insurgency issues within their borders so most of the pilots havent been trained on how to use the F-35 for CAS,thats what the article is saying to break it down for you....The owner of something is saying he want to replace A with B you are here crying...go hold am for hand naaa.

You won the argument sir, I am here to learn, the US is considering replacing the A10s because most CAS platforms ( A10, A29 Tucano etc.) cannot survive in high threat environment, so they might use their F35 fighter for CAS instead which have a much higher chance of survival. Though in a lot of articles they said it clearly is not a direct replacement for the A10, and they are still worried that in the future might need a dedicated CAS platform. And the US is definitely considering a turboprop to use too just like us in Nigeria like sir Kabe pointed out tucanos can perform most of the role of the A10 at a much cheaper price in maintaenance and operations.
I never said the F35 cannot perform CAS, almost all fighter jets that can do strike missions can do CAS just may not be as effective as a dedicated CAS platform like A10.

neyobills:


Looks like the rant of someone bereft of any more points or ideas

I don't know why you think you're better than everyone here.

If you were intelligent, you should be looking into why everyone is against your idea. Instead you're trying to force your crazy mentality on every other person here.

neyobills:


First point is that i never said its multipurpose,i said it will be a game changer in COIN operations,so this your multipurpose of a thing is totally off point,the A-10 still has potentials on long term use in terms on counter offensive operations in conventional wars if literally anything happens as this is 2024 because the A-10 is still a legendary MBT and armored vehicles destroyer.

Take for instance the installation of the S-300 defence system in Niger,by your assumption that Nigeria decides to proceed with the Ecowas intervention what advantage does the 24xM346FA jets and the 12 super Tucanos over a fleet of Warthogs in enemy airspace.

The US military is replacing them by the F-35,and they are doing this not because they have become obsolete,there are debating in congress about whether to donate a few to the Ukraine military and sell the rest,some congressmen want them still in service,some want them sold,so your idea of them been obsolete is far from it.

Oh so u are crying about the sales of the AH-1Z Viper which is at least a generation older than the Warthog now yet you are saying Nigeria doesnt need a much more legendary battle tested alternative....once again dont forget to highlight what advantage does the M346FA and the Super Tucano have over there Warthog

While all these are hypothetic, the premise you have began your argument is faulty.

By nature of Counter Terror operations air assets need to be multi-purpose.

AKPWS, Brimstone missiles, paveway bombs etc can all be deployed from the A-29 and M-346.

You also forget we have JF-17s and F-7s for missions against Air Defence Systems. We also have a large fleet of UCAVs that can defeat ADS (Azerbaijan-Armenia war).

The Russians haven't deployed enough air defense assets in Niger to cause any real disruptions to Nigeria Air operations. Niger is not Ukraine.

kabe1:


The idea of the A-10 is outdated. The A-10 was designed and built for killing Soviet tanks, however in today's environment it will struggle against manpads, network air defense systems and EW interferences.

The A-10 will not do better than the current platforms we already have in service. It is an expensive aircraft to fly, it's availability is also be suspect in a Nigerian environment.

The A-29's are better for the roles we need, the M-346 which will replace our alpha jets and L-39s also are superior to the A-10.

Like i said earlier its suggestion is for COIN operations in the first place,last time i checked the insurgents in Nigeria dont have the capabilities for manpads and air defence systems yet except there is some news i been missing

The A-10 will definitely do better its cost around 15k USD per flight hour and since its not a commercial aircraft i guess this is fair enough besides the insurgents basically cant tell the difference,to them any aircraft is suspect anyway so makes no difference.

The A-29,s has a longer loiter time than the Warthog ,the Warthog has superior firepower than the A-29,the L-39s are no way superior to the Warthog,the are trainer and light combat aircrafts,the Warthog is a full combat jet.

abbati19:


You won the argument sir, I am here to learn, the US is considering replacing the A10s because most CAS platforms ( A10, A29 Tucano etc.) cannot survive in high threat environment, so they might use their F35 fighter for CAS instead which have a much higher chance of survival. Though in a lot of articles they said it clearly is not a direct replacement for the A10, and they are still worried that in the future might need a dedicated CAS platform. And the US is definitely considering a turboprop to use too just like us in Nigeria like sir Kabe pointed out tucanos can perform most of the role of the A10 at a much cheaper price in maintaenance and operations.
I never said the F35 cannot perform CAS, almost all fighter jets that can do strike missions can do CAS just may not be as effective as a dedicated CAS platform like A10.

Its fine we are all here to learn,the US has numerous platforms to choose from however the Tucano wouldnt even be a option for the US cos they have many alternatives,Sir Kabe point is not a point for me...its like the same we see everyday of NA troops going to front lines in light skinned Toyota Hilux now having an alternative to buy an armoured Ford F15 but keep on saying the Hilux can do the work of of the Armoured F-15 of course it can,in terms of safety ratings it doesnt come near,in aviation safety is top priority.

iblawi:


I don't know why you think you're better than everyone here.

If you were intelligent, you should be looking into why everyone is against your idea. Instead you're trying to force your crazy mentality on every other person here.

Im not intelligent than everyone else however our priorities vary and i dont follow the bandwagon...i have a mind of my own ....did i put a gun to head to force my crazy mentality on you abi what is this one capping?

kabe1:


Cheaper definitely, better definitely.

An ideal CAS platform should be able to provide Recon, CAS, Network Centric (Commanders in Maid should be able to see the targets in Gwoza), and Air Interdiction.

The A-10 can only perform two of the above roles while the A-29 can perform all of them.

Kindly highlight which roles the A-10 cant perform in before i burst your bubble...what will be the use of the the commander barking orders in Maid when the probability of the platform returning to base is low in the first place

neyobills:


Like i said earlier its suggestion is for COIN operations in the first place,last time i checked the insurgents in Nigeria dont have the capabilities for manpads and air defence systems yet except there is some news i been missing

The A-10 will definitely do better its cost around 15k USD per flight hour and since its not a commercial aircraft i guess this is fair enough besides the insurgents basically cant tell the difference,to them any aircraft is suspect anyway so makes no difference.

The A-29,s has a lower loiter time than the Warthog ,the Warthog has superior firepower than the A-29,the L-39s are no way superior to the Warthog,the are trainer and light combat aircrafts,the Warthog is a full combat jet.

I'm struggling to follow, in what universe does an aircraft powered with a Turbofan provide an aircraft powered with a Turboprop engine more Loiter time?

neyobills:


Kindly highlight which roles the A-10 cant perform in before i burst your bubble...what will be the use of the the commander barking orders in Maid when the probability of the platform returning to base is low in the first place

Reconnaissance, Network Capabilities, Multi-role should I continue?

kabe1:


While all these are hypothetic, the premise you have began your argument is faulty.

By nature of Counter Terror operations air assets need to be multi-purpose.

AKPWS, Brimstone missiles, paveway bombs etc can all be deployed from the A-29 and M-346.

You also forget we have JF-17s and F-7s for missions against Air Defence Systems. We also have a large fleet of UCAVs that can defeat ADS (Azerbaijan-Armenia war).

The Russians haven't deployed enough air defense assets in Niger to cause any real disruptions to Nigeria Air operations. Niger is not Ukraine.

By nature what is the need of carrying a RPG to a cock fight,by nature of counter Terror there is also need to know your enemy capabilities,what would be the need of taking a B2 spirit bomber to Lake chad to fight insurgents,what we need is a dedicated CAS support platform in this ops

I agree all those munitions can be deployed by the Tucano and the M-346,however we need platform that can fly at low altitude,have long loiter time with superior firepower and can be able to pin point enemy position from friendly postions before taking out to enemy,in COIN ops the margins can get slim so we need platforms that fly low to be able to see positions clearly before take out to avoid friendly causalities guess maybe in your type of ops safety of ground troops takes the back seat?

For the Warthog the cockpit in encased in full titanuim armour giving the pilot and flight controls better safety against enemy fire that is exactly where the A-10 comes in as the game changer.

kabe1:


I'm struggling to follow, in what universe does an aircraft powered with a Turbofan provide an aircraft powered with a Turboprop engine more Loiter time?

This is common sense naaa..how on Gods green earth can a single engine turbo prop engine have a better loiter time than a double jet engine,simple sturvs na.

Name one airline that uses turbo prop engine platforms for commercial flights.

Oh i just checked my quote its obviously a mistype and i meant longer...dont be mischievous

neyobills:


Its fine we are all here to learn,the US has numerous platforms to choose from however the Tucano wouldnt even be a option for the US cos they have many alternatives,Sir Kabe point is not a point for me...its like the same we see everyday of NA troops going to front lines in light skinned Toyota Hilux now having an alternative to buy an armoured Ford F15 but keep on saying the Hilux can do the work of of the Armoured F-15 of course it can,in terms of safety ratings it doesnt come near,in aviation safety is top priority.

The Toyota Hilux has it's role to play in the Nigerian army. It might not be pretty but we don't have billions of dollars lying around to move all our men in Armoured vehicles.

It is the way and formation it is used that matters.

The Tucanos is a serious option for the US military.

https://www.sncorp.com/news-archive/a-29-super-tucano-delivered-to-us-air-force-special-operations-command/

Within the Nigerian context there's no capability the A-10 will provide, we don't currently have any the A-10 has limitations in the sort of support it can provide to Nigerian ground forces.

The A-29 is simply a better platform.

kabe1:


The Toyota Hilux has it's role to play in the Nigerian army. It might not be pretty but we don't have billions of dollars lying around to move all our men in Armoured vehicles.

It is the way and formation it is used that matters.

The Tucanos is a serious option for the US military.

https://www.sncorp.com/news-archive/a-29-super-tucano-delivered-to-us-air-force-special-operations-command/

Within the Nigerian context there's no capability the A-10 will provide, we don't currently have any the A-10 has limitations in the sort of support it can provide to Nigerian ground forces.

The A-29 is simply a better platform.

I agree with the paucity of funds,however that is where modifications can come in,the hilxes can still be bought and the ones going into enemy territory modified,like a said safety of ground troops obviously takes the back seat in your own mode of operations.....why waste tax payers money when the lives of troops trained with tax payers funds are cut short due to avoidable mistakes and also demoralizing troops plus making some family and friends of gallant troops miserable.

Pls what way and formation can a light skinned hilux be used in mined enemy territory...i love to learn

The Tucano is no option for the US military...its akin to saying Shatta wale mix(no pun intended) is a better option for a DJ to play at a typical Lagos Christmas street carnival ....dont forget the Tucanos are Braziliian made...

what are the limitations the Warthog has in operations to suppoet Nigerian ground troops....i love to learn

https://www.sncorp.com/news-archive/the-a-29-super-tucano-light-attack-multi-mission-aircraft-affordable-combat-capability/

The Super Tucano's attributes of rugged, durable, low maintenance and unprepared surface capabilities, along with its unmatched affordability – just $1,500 per flight hour

The super tucano cost just 1,500 dollars per flight hour compared to 15,000 dollars for A10

Comparing plane (A 10 WARTHOG)that costs FIFTEEN THOUSAND (15,000) of Uncle Sam's dollars(TWENTY POINT NINE MILLION NAIRA) per hour to operate with one(SUPER TUCANO) that costs ONE THOUSAND,FIVE HUNDRED dollars(TWO MILLION,NINETY ONE THOUSAND NAIRA) per hour to operate in todays Nigeria?

Imagine what it would cost the Nigerian Air Force to rack up just 2,000 flight hours on a Warthog...(whispers 41.9 BILLION NAIRA(30 MILLION DOLLARS).
The operational costs alone should be enough to dead this talk.

MAN1960:


Man1960 is back. young man abeg rest, you go just dey type everything wey Google tell you. (Neyovills) all this small small boys wey their brain still dey hot

This is new, u literally had to make.an entry with self adulation?
Some of us just "go and come" and hope we have not.been forgotten.