jakeporeshenko:
NAF Mi-17's will carry something similar to the bombs on these Mi-24s

patches689:


Those are the scaffolds for the RIB fast-deployment equipment the CSIR designed

andrewza:




They dont have a new ASMs.

tdayof:
Any news about ARADU? Has it been decommissioned finally or will be going for refit?

jakeporeshenko:
NAF Mi-17's will carry something similar to the bombs on these Mi-24s

tdayof:
Here is a perfect example of what i had in mind about the NESL question i asked.

lionel4power:
The way the NA use armored vehicles...

go to a conflict zone and park it in one T junction.

Almost all of us has come across one Armored vehicle in a junction in nigeria.

the last NIGER DELTA crises there was no known use of IED. although it is a wise move to deploy them im advance.

Niger delta militants fight in a semi-conventional warfare pattern. they do not initiate contact but grab, hold and defend ground.

airpower will come in handy here.

But I see recommend dialogue. this could end up a
long protracted conflict which Nigeria for not need now.

Henry240:


Man, please post that Air Force video here. I've been unble to view it on your page.

africaken254:
are you implying nigeria army can't service and maintain Caterpillar C7 heavy-duty diesel 6 cylinder engine!

jakeporeshenko:

I couldn't find the original version by dakingsman. https://yH1OBJ5Y7Y

The UK RAF Lossiemouth ground force troops were recently in Nigeria to train Nigerian troops

Henry240:


A good Seaward Defence Boat, IPV or MPV or whatever name individual countries decide to call that class of vessel has to be between 35 meters - 45 meters. 50 meters would also do.


Senegal's Navy OPV190 is 58 meters in length. It looks aesthetically beautiful, but can it do the job it has been built for...... I don't think so. NESL in theory can design and build vessels like that, however in reality, they would not. The largest for that class NESL would build is 50 meters.


At 58 meters OPV190 is too small to be a proper ocean going patrol ship, it lacks the tonnage and length to be effective and at that size, it is too big to be an inshore patrol vessel.


So, it's actually stuck.

Tinfoil:
westgate

https://videopress.com/v/BYQBQQAY

patches689:


I disagree

The OPV 190 is a 58 m (190 foot) long, 9.4 metre wide vessel made from aluminium for less corrosion and lighter weight. Its shallow draft (2.3 metres) allows operation close to the shore. It has a crew of 30 but can take 24 passengers on board. Range is between 4 and 5 000 km at 12 knots, while maximum speed is 30 knots. Endurance is three weeks.

M14A1:
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Henry240:


Off-course you would disagree. However i stated a generally accepted industry classification for those types of vessels. Vessels such as the Hamina class and Korean navy PKX use water jets that allow them patrol in very shallow waters.


The last public white paper from the Nigerian navy indicated that Vessels above 50 meters are not suitable for Inshore patrols. I don't need a white paper to tell me that at 58 meters, vessels would lack the tonnage to be proper seagoing.

patches689:


No

What I said is pretty clear.

Stop looking for insults where none were given

africaken254:
isn't this your statement you only have a couple dozen of them so its unlikely that you will have many mechanics that are familiar/qualified to work on them, and I doubt you have vast quantities of spares for them !!!!

patches689:


and what did I go on to say after that?

patches689:


Yes, of course I do because this is the second time in two days you have passed off your opinion as fact

First... The little warrior class which is also 58m does just fine patrolling some of the roughest waters in the world. The waters off Senegal are not rough enough to say that their vessel is not suited to patrolling their 200nm EEZ.

Third... Draught is 2m on that ship - so it can operate in waters that are 2.5m or deeper (depending on their safety margins). That is very shallow. Length has nothing to do with it.

They got what they need, its very fast, has an exellent range, can carry a large compliment of men and it is within their means.

It is a fine vessel.

M14A1:
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Henry240:


Since i'm not an expert, let's see what the experts have to say. The following are some of the reasons OPV190 would not be suitable for close shore patrols.


*Defence analyst and former Defence Review
committee member Helmoed Romer Heitman

"However, when it comes to the inshore patrol vessels (IPVs),
Heitman is of the opinion that "the three 60 m IPVs now
envisaged as part of Biro are an embarrassing misstep by
the Navy and will be an entirely pointless expenditure,"
because, "at 60 m they will be too large and complex to be
the 'cheap and cheerful' equivalent to the old SDPs, to be
used for close inshore work and more importantly to train
and develop officers and ratings...At 60 m they will be too
small to be really useful (the strike craft were good special
operations platforms, but had the speed and the self-
defence capability these vessels will lack."


Heitman goes on to suggest that the IPV requirement should
be revisited to develop a vessel of somewhere around 30 to
40 m, "


"They are equipped with water jets
instead of propellers, which allow them to operate in very
shallow waters and accelerate, slow down and turn in
unconventional ways."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamina-class_missile_boat

africaken254:
a nigeria army mechanic can maintain and service a Cummins GBT - 5.9 TC 6-cylinder in-line water-cooled direct-injection turbocharged diesel engine e.t.c but not a Caterpillar C7 Heavy Duty Diesel, 6-Cylinder, Fuel-Injected Turbocharged and Aftercooled

patches689:



Hamina-Class is a strike craft not an OPV/IPV

Finally:

- P400-class OPV (French Navy) 54m
- Cyclone Class OPV (USN) 53m
- Gumdoksuri-class OPV (RKN) 63m
- Hayabusa-class OPV (JMSDF) 50m

Plenty of major Navies consider 50-60m as a perfectly acceptable OPV size.