giles14:
Russia will not go to war but surely PKK will get better hardware Russia.

Russia knows it has more to lose if it pushes turkey to hard.

What loss? Turkey and even NATO has more to lose than Russia Economically(Let's exclude the military part).
* Europe won't survive long without the russian gas. Why do you think the US coalitions(comprising mainly of NATO and Arab states) in syria are hell-bent on seeing Assad off the chair? Europe want to seek for an alternative to their dependency on Russia gas and Qatar is ready to 'pipe' that down to Europe, but Unfortunately it(gas pipe) has to pass through Syria which is a russian ally and a shia controlled government. Their major obstacle being Assad himself. Many people don't even know that Assad's wife is Sunni. Conspiracy theorists and Confusionists only want to achieve their goal(s) and the way to go is to divide Syria along sectarian line. One wonder why the US coalition kept on clamouring that Assad steps down which they later changed to "If assad should stay, then let the country be divided into two".
*Moreover, the turkey-russia gas pipeline(synod.....don't think i get the correct spelling) under construction.....turkey tend to lose, not russia.
*In the event of an influx of refugee from syria and libya, turkey and NATO tends to lose.
*Let's just not debate about the military aspect, we don't need that yet.
*I know you might want to say that there will be more sanction(s) from the west and NATO as well, but frankly, Sanction(s) Helps To Innovate, Diversify and Be Independent as the case of US slammed sanction on russia. Some european countries are independent of some russian commodities and vice versa for russia. Turkey lost her russia tourists to egypt....turkey loss.
*PKK, just like you mentioned is enough trouble to keep Ankara busy. Just see the scenario where they are now equipped by russia(which i think russia will still overtly or covertly do anyway), turkey tends to lose. Some part of southern turkey are nothing but Syria 2.0
Bottomline is, someone will still pay for the Ambassador assasination and undoubtedly, Ankara will pay for the downed-plane and the pilot's death. Russia may Forgive, but they never Forget.

BlackBaron:


The Innoson vehicle is also the Beijing 2022 jeep used by the Chinese army.

It is not the same vehicle but I confess that there is a strong resemblance
1st pic Nigerian IVM G 12
2nd pic Chinese BJ2022

IVM G 12 is bigger

Nok234:


more there is no pick-up variant in the chinese Beijing 2022

There are actually...
Many variants from private, gun trucks, etc

Nok234:


It is not the same vehicle but I confess that there is a strong resemblance
1st pic Nigerian IVM G 12
2nd pic Chinese BJ2022

IVM G 12 is bigger

Beijing Automotive Works Beijing 2022 is the full name or Yongshi Warrior. They're the same vehicles. What you're posting are variations. They are actually one and same.

The ambassador assasination points to some things: That

*Russia and its allies are kicking some arse in Syria.
*The liberation of aleppo spell doom for the confusionists and chaos theorists. Aleppo is an highly contested state since 2012(a year after the uprising) because it is the Financial capital having roughly 2.3mln population. It's a major loss to ISIS and their sponsors. Anyway, the western media term it "The fall of Aleppo" while the syrian says "the Liberation of aleppo".
*Assad staying as president is non-negotiable.

The killer cop might be State sponsored, or a freelance ISIS symphatizer, or a CIA sponsored agent or "the treaty" sponsored agent.
There are two likely reasons why the ambassador was killed.
*Because of aleppo liberation. The most likely reason. Morealso, the turkish killer cop said "as we die in aleppo, you die here" before opening fire on him.
*Because of Russia-turkey gas deal. Just to disrupt the relationship/romance between a sworn NATO enemy(russia) and another NATO member.

Henry240:


OFF-TOPIC

In general, i find it quite funny and unfortunate that Turkey, one the large NATO members cannot guarantee security in the country. In Europe, after the France and the U.K, the largest NATO partner is Turkey.


How come violence in that Country is relentless, with some parts in the South looking like Syria.

The assassin was a Turkish policeman assigned to the Ambassador as a body guard

Turks are so fvcked. They are poking a bear that has a taste for Muslims.

Henry240:


Turkey is way more insecure than many Sub-Saharan states. If they had colonialists occupying and exploiting them for 200 years like the rest of Africa, they'd had been in a far worse state.

They did.

Turkey isn't an ethnic monolith

Look up "The Young Turks" (not the YouTube channel)

NAF regiment training

BlackBaron:

Beijing Automotive Works Beijing 2022 is the full name or Yongshi Warrior. They're the same vehicles. What you're posting are variations. They are actually one and same.

yes you are right
but tell me why is it made in Nigeria ?

Henry240:


We face similar problems as Turkey, with far less support than Turkey, but we are doing way better than them and managing our situation far better than they are.

By support you mean support from western countries?

Like I said someone would say "There are countries in Africa which received their independence after Nigeria but are more peaceful".

Nigeria Military.

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Nok234:
yes you are right but tell me why is it made in Nigeria ?

License production.

frumentius:


Designed to entice @AndrewZA out of hibernation!

Not the first time navy has had CJOPS though.

Patchesagain:

They did.
Turkey isn't an ethnic monolith
Look up "The Young Turks" (not the YouTube channel)

I'll look it up.

Patchesagain:


The assassin was a Turkish policeman assigned to the Ambassador as a body guard

Turks are so fvcked. They are poking a bear that has a taste for Muslims.

There are conflicting reports. Some say the same thing as you, and other news outlets claim he was simply off-duty pretending to be an Embassy guard.

The Russians aren't taking it as a state sponsored terror hit. However FSB are already on ground in Syria. It seems to me like a lone wolf attacker who had been feed so much sh*t by the liberal media.

MikeCZA:
By support you mean support from western countries?

Like I said someone would say "There are countries in Africa which received their independence after Nigeria but are more peaceful".

I mean by been a full fledged NATO member, while we are blocked from getting common 80s era Cobra helicopters and Turbo-props, they have access to the latest military gear.


No country in the world that's faced with the problems we face on all sides can be peaceful. Its simply not possible. We are doing very well by all accounts.

Mali

MINUSMA

MINUSMA Mali

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Henry240:


There are conflicting reports. Some say the same thing as you, and other news outlets claim he was simply off-duty pretending to be an Embassy guard.

The Russians aren't taking it as a state sponsored terror hit. However FSB are already on ground in Syria. It seems to me like a lone wolf attacker who had been feed so much sh*t by the liberal media.

The Ambassador was at an art exibit, the guy was 100% part of his personal detail... you can see him in the background of pic 1

Video of the assasination *Warning Graphic*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMV0GvrBhPk

Henry240 some of the words flying here base on Turkey n Edrogan is uncall for & I find it offensive.
Folks here should learn to separate Islam from actions of people who want resources n power

IbnSultaan:
Henry240 some of the words flying here base on Turkey n Edrogan is uncall for & I find it offensive.
Folks here should learn to separate Islam from actions of people who want resources n power

The human brain is one of the best pattern recognition systems in the world.

When people start seeing patterns, they start making associations.

Tinfoil:
PLEASE KEEP DISCUSSIONS ON AFRICA TAKE ALL OFF TOPIC DISCUSSIONS TO THE RELEVANT THREAD[/color][color=#990000]

It's a big story, and naturally most people would want air their views on the development, I included.



Anyway, we can all go back to a regularly scheduled programming and post on topic.

Nemesis2u won't mind if we use his thread.

newly acquired C295W transport leaving Seville to join Mali Air Force.its just embarrassing that mali,one of the poorest countries in sub sahara africa. can acquire several aircraft's within an year,while some of the best performing economies in sub sahara .take decades to acquire aircraft's for their air force

You know you're in Palaborwa when a retired SAS man and a Recce sit in a cafe, discuss knives and everyone treats it as the most normal thing in the world.

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Nigerian soldier serving in the DRC, 2013

Kenya AMISOM

Lagos State neigbour-hood watch