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Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by Nobody: 4:05am On Aug 20, 2013 |
Image123:Ok, i get it. |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by shdemidemi(m): 7:10am On Aug 20, 2013 |
Image123: All lies, I feel it is due to misunderstanding. Having said that, the main purpose for this 1 Corinthians was to correct the problems going on in this church, it is never a standard. If anyone cares to know how we should behave in a public gathering or in church Paul made it clear in 1 Timothy. |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by JesusisLord85: 7:56am On Aug 20, 2013 |
majalisa: faith not works...dont get it twisted So what did you mean exactly when you said " do u realised dere is a clear distinction btw d old Testament(law) and the new Testament(grace)?" Grace was extended to the men of old. And yet, dthey walked in obedience to the commandments. So, again, what did you mean? |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by JesusisLord85: 7:59am On Aug 20, 2013 |
shdemidemi: I like this part: 1 Tim 1:8-10 8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; 9 knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 for whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; 1 Like |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by shdemidemi(m): 8:27am On Aug 20, 2013 |
JesusisLord85: You forget to add the main part that says the law is not made for the righteous man although it is good. Note that the righteous man is the man that lives by faith because God's righteousness is revealed through faith/ trust in God through Christ. |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by JesusisLord85: 10:32am On Aug 20, 2013 |
shdemidemi: I knew you would say that. Now, go find out what Paul means. He tells you straight after what is definitely NOT righteous. If you have 'faith' but are living in sin: "disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane" etc So you see, 'righteousness' is at odds with these traits. 'Faith' + evil works = heaven, in your strange opinion. Even an atheist will tell you that is insane. 1 Like |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by shdemidemi(m): 6:53pm On Aug 20, 2013 |
JesusisLord85: The mistake people like you make is that you take the 'good news of Christ' as good advice unto moral code of conduct. The gospel is simply what Christ did (not what he would do) to bring sinners to the point of salvation. Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ,[a] for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. The bible says the gospel of Christ (1 cor 15:1-4) is the power of God which means God's power is hid in the gospel. The day we come to the acceptance of this gospel we are no more in control of our lives but the Spirit of God lead us both to do and will. There is no condemnation for anyone who is in Christ, nothing in this world can separate anyone from Christ. We have been given a way unto salvation, we don't have a way out of salvation. Even the devil cannot take a son of God from Christ because the price was paid for the sinner. JesusisLord85: You can only say this because of your lack of understanding. Paul says the law is not for the righteous man, the question you should be asking yourself is 'who is the righteous man'? The righteous man is simply the man hid in Christ. Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believ]e. For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, Please take time to study what justification, imputation, purification, predestination mean then come back and talk. |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by Image123(m): 9:23pm On Aug 20, 2013 |
shdemidemi: wahala dey oh. So we should throw away corinthians too. This people are nt to serious. First, you folks tell us to throw away the 39 OT books, then the 4gospels, now Corinthians! Wait till i quote Timothy, we go hear another stry story. 1 Like |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by Nobody: 9:40pm On Aug 20, 2013 |
Image123:That's what happens to the modern day theology aka Gospel of infinite grace, In Europe and the West Pastors are now permitting divination,adultery,perjury,homosexuality,feminism,and all things evil in churches since they say the law was abolished in Christ.SMH! |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by Image123(m): 10:29pm On Aug 20, 2013 |
Bidam: That's what happens to the modern day theology aka Gospel of infinite grace, In Europe and the West Pastors are now permitting divination,adultery,perjury,homosexuality,feminism,and all things evil in churches since they say the law was abolished in Christ.SMH! God is not mocked my brother. |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by shdemidemi(m): 10:51pm On Aug 20, 2013 |
Image123: If anyone tells us to throw the Old Testament away such person should be accursed. The bible made it clear that those things written before the 'gospel of Christ' are written for our learning. Romans 15:4 For whatever things were written before were written for our learning, that we through the patience and comfort of the Scriptures might have hope. For that reason we can't throw any part of the scripture away. What we must do as Christians is to rightly divide the word of truth according to dispensations and also understand that not everything is for doctrine. 2 tim 3:16a All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, ........ Some are for doctrine e.g Romans some for reproof e.g Galatians some for correction e.g Corinthians. Putting everything together haphazardly is tantamount to error. Ignorantly picking scriptures without knowing the reason surrounding why the writer is writing in the manner he is writing or to whom he is actually writing can only lead one to a ditch. 1 Like |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by shdemidemi(m): 10:59pm On Aug 20, 2013 |
Bidam: That's what happens to the modern day theology aka Gospel of infinite grace, In Europe and the West Pastors are now permitting divination,adultery,perjury,homosexuality,feminism,and all things evil in churches since they say the law was abolished in Christ.SMH! Did the bible not say it is abolished? If some people take the gospel of infinite grace as a licence, does that make the gospel itself wrong. Would you say you won't go in a car just because you heard some next fellow some where had a car accident? |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by Image123(m): 11:06pm On Aug 20, 2013 |
shdemidemi: hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe, you've got jokes. That is like the most ridiculous division of the Word of truth that i have evr read. Kindly list the 66 books and their divisions including your criteria for such division, hopefully there might be lite at the end f ths tunnel. |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by JesusisLord85: 11:09pm On Aug 20, 2013 |
He is a joker indeed Matthew 7: "13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Even the demons 'believe' and they shudder. Your path certainly does not sound narrow. But how would a carnal mind acknowledge this. Romans 8:7 " Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be." |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by JesusisLord85: 11:12pm On Aug 20, 2013 |
shdemidemi: HAHAHAH when 2 Tim 3:16 was written the only DOCTRINE was the old testament scrolls. Paul himself called his letters just that; letters. Not saying they are not doctrine today, but you get my point. If his letters contradict the word of God, then he would be a false teacher and you guilty of tolerating false teachings. Of course, that is not the case, you my friend, have simply misunderstood. "Ye worship ye know not what" |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by JesusisLord85: 11:15pm On Aug 20, 2013 |
Image123: The oyinbo hijacked the religion. Took the black Jesus, painted him white, repackaged the religion, and sold it back to the blacks. The paradox of life. |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by shdemidemi(m): 11:17pm On Aug 20, 2013 |
Image123: The entire bible can be divided into seven dispensations-. 1) dispensation of innocence --- Adam and Eve 2) dispensation of conscience--- Cain and Abel 3) dispensation of human government ---- Noah 4) dispensation of promise--- Abraham 5) dispensation of the law of Moses 6) dispensation of grace- this where we are as Gentiles at this present time. Ephesians 3:2 if indeed you have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which was given to me(paul) for you, 7) Tribulation (Hebrews, 1&2 Peter, Jude, John, Revelation ) |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by JesusisLord85: 11:18pm On Aug 20, 2013 |
shdemidemi: Romans 4:6-8 "Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7 saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin". Lol. Yeah sure. even David knew all this, and yet, he obeyed the commands of the most high God. Be quiet there, man of lawlessness. Why do you imagine vain things 1 Like |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by JesusisLord85: 11:20pm On Aug 20, 2013 |
shdemidemi: Dunno why you read Peter. I thought only Paul knew the full truth Be there dividing how you feel like. Tell me, Ruth the Moabite, was she born into the covenant? |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by JesusisLord85: 11:22pm On Aug 20, 2013 |
Don't even bother reading revelation, it tells the story of how the Jews will be raptured on the LAST day. Somewhere in there, you have cooked up a theory of how synagogue church of satan (sic) will be raptured before the tribulation. |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by shdemidemi(m): 11:25pm On Aug 20, 2013 |
JesusisLord85: My friend, why don't you stick to the Judaism end of things. You have made it clear that you are not a Christian, I see no reason why you should think we have similar beliefs. David was under the law, why wouldn't he observe it? Paul picked up that statement because it is a prophetic statement to further validate His gospel. |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by shdemidemi(m): 11:34pm On Aug 20, 2013 |
JesusisLord85: Did you read my reply to image on how we can not discard any part of the scripture? And abt Ruth, I am sure you have heard of the word "proselyte". |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by shdemidemi(m): 11:55pm On Aug 20, 2013 |
JesusisLord85: It does not surprise me that you don't know what you spew out. 2 Timothy happens to be the last letter Paul wrote before he was martyred, Paul was actually passing on the mantle to Timothy in this book. He had been teaching the gospel of grace apart from the law for decades before he wrote this letter. Go and read your Acts 18, read about how an eloquent teacher of the Old Testament called Apollos was taught by Aquila and Priscilla. They took him aside and explained to him the way of God more accurately after they themselves had been taught by Paul. |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by Nobody: 4:47am On Aug 21, 2013 |
shdemidemi:You still don't get it,do you?This kind of gospel has permitted satan to have a field day in churches because it encourages lawlessness,Why do you think Gay marriages and abortions abound every where in Europe and the West?It started from the Church. We can go through this life,through our generations and deceive ourselves for thousands of years until the day of accountability and truth arrives. When God sits in judgement,there's no negotiation debate or argument. Some men tried it in the book of Matthew.They came before God and said, "But God,let me hold up my ministry.Let's debate this; let's discuss my achievement.Didn't I prophesy in your name? Didn't i cast out devils? Didn't i raised the dead? let's debate and discuss this.Let's evaluate all the things I did". "Depart from me I never knew you," Says God,"you workers of iniquity" (Matthew 7:21-23). That is the final statement by the Lord, an implacable judgmental command by the Lord, and in the face of that kind of response,human initiatives, human pride,human ego and human delusions crumble into dust o. God standards has not and never will change. The basic requirement for life in the Kingdom of God is personal holiness. 1 Peter 1 New International Version (NIV) 13 Therefore, with minds that are alert and fully sober, set your hope on the grace to be brought to you when Jesus Christ is revealed at his coming. 14 As obedient children, do not conform to the evil desires you had when you lived in ignorance. 15 But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; 16 for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.” That's what God requires of us,and He doesn't debate it,dispute it or negotiate it. He simply says, "You shall be holy,because I am holy". Holiness is a part of our life as is breathing. There is no compromise my brother or even dropping of standards because of the gospel of infinite grace.We are not to even adjust to the changing principles of the Babylonian world system.Just because it is the trend and fashion of the day doesn't mean God is in it.We must not allow the philosophy of the world to enter the Church,unfortunately that has crept subtly into the Church these last days. |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by Nobody: 5:03am On Aug 21, 2013 |
Image123:Indeed God is not mocked,whatever a man sows,he will definitely reap.God is watching. |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by shdemidemi(m): 8:43am On Aug 21, 2013 |
Bidam: You still don't get it,do you?This kind of gospel has permitted satan to have a field day in churches because it encourages lawlessness,Why do you think Gay marriages and abortions abound every where in Europe and the West?It started from the Church. More like you don't get it, you are simply engrossed by emotions hence you think you can help God make the world a better place. Did the bible promise a peaceful world without immorality, war and pangs? No. The world is what it is, sinful and evil. God has called some to salvation and some to destruction. Romans 9 16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. Don't try to help God by adulterating the word of God. He says His power is revealed only in this gospel of grace, no where else , God has guaranteed His power in the gospel of grace and justification to anyone who believe. Bidam: 0ut of point. Christ was speaking to legalists here and not teachers of the gospel of grace who have faith and trust God in all things. What is God's standard? Bidam: You still carry that legalism mindset of what I can do to please God or what I can do to be saved. God is saying he does everything, if He needs me today He knows how to place me in that position where I will think Him, dream Him. Paul never planned all he did with the gospel, God arrested him against his will with a disaster. God blinded him and made him seek Him, God made him abandon his life for His own purpose and will. You will never see Paul say he did anything because he wanted to because God works everything out in us for His own purpose and glory. I have told you times without number that Peter is not a teacher for the body of Christ. He is a teacher for the believing Jews. This gospel of grace to Gentiles was entrusted to one man for us, you will keep depending on your ability if you keep looking from the eyes of the law. God calls the best you can offer filthy rag in his presence, God says we are weak, we are not good but in our weakness His power would be revealed through the gospel. |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by JesusisLord85: 8:59am On Aug 21, 2013 |
shdemidemi: What a puzzling statement to any believer. So Peter was a false teacher? Peter, who Jesus handed over the keys. Peter, who, in Galatians 2, Paul had to go see by way of "revelation", to make sure he was not "running in vain". Oh ye vain man. What utter cock and bull. |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by shdemidemi(m): 9:04am On Aug 21, 2013 |
JesusisLord85: You lack understanding dear friend. Christ did not hand over the key of this gospel to Peter. The key is Christ , Christ handed over the keys upon what Peter heard from God that 'Christ is the son of God'. Paul did not go and validate anything, he went to draw the line between what he is teaching and what the rest were teaching. |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by JesusisLord85: 9:08am On Aug 21, 2013 |
shdemidemi: Yeah, I can imagine how that would have gone down if indeed, your ridiculous assertion is correct. So Paul rocks up to Jerusalem, tells them he is preaching a different gospel, and they say "ok", lets extend the right hand of fellowship to you because we recognise your calling. But while we recognise you have the truth, we will continue to teach our different version of it. We be not agreed, however, we will walk hand in hand. Mental retardation one cannot be condemned for of course. But yours is spiritual. What utter garbage you speak! |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by shdemidemi(m): 9:20am On Aug 21, 2013 |
JesusisLord85: Go and check and come back.. Infact I will paste it here Galatians 2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that (notice how he did not say the gospel but that gospel) gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain. 6 But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man's person for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me: In this verse, did Paul seem like he was bothered about what Peter, James and the rest were saying? He said they added nothing to him, he was speaking above what the knew. Remember he had just been told by Christ to come and see these people in Jerusalem and he is the one receiving this fresh revelation directly from Christ. 9 And when James, Cephas(Peter), and John, who seemed to be pillars perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen(Gentiles), and they unto the circumcision.(Jews) It beats me to see people don't seem to understand what had happened there. God had sent Paul to the heathen and this set of Jewish believers to the nation of Israel, isn't that clear as daylight! So out of that revelation of the mysteries comes what Paul calls, "The Gospel of the Grace of God." In another place Paul calls it, "That Gospel which I preach among the Gentiles." In another place he calls it, "My Gospel." And still another he calls it the "Gospel of God, The Gospel of Christ." Did Paul see them as pillars from the emphasised above? No. He said they seemed to be the kingpins Here in jerusalem. They saw what he had in him after communicating. So, they made the agreement. 7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision (Gentiles )was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision (jews)was unto Peter; they gave to Paul and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship but they should remember the poor in jewish believers Jerusalem. |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by JesusisLord85: 10:29am On Aug 21, 2013 |
shdemidemi: sharap there. Where does it say it was a different gospel. You misunderstand the writings, highlighting what you think is important. What does "lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain" mean. Of course you won't highlight that, and I'm sure you will twist it. "my gospel" ke, as if he is the author. There is so much wrong with this your 2 gospel theory it beggars belief. |
Re: Is Going To Church Without Covering Your Hair A Sin? by GoodBoi1(m): 10:38am On Aug 21, 2013 |
Hair or head? |
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