Gombs: Wow! I remember in the bible when God wanted to make a help meet for Adam, he didn't go back to creation, because he was done creating, and Adam showed up when He had finished creation works and was resting...rather he knew what Adam needed was inside of Adam himself, he then brought out of Adam what Adam needed (Woman).

its wonderful to know that ALL we'd ever need in this Life is in the Word of God, hence if we have the word in us, we have ALL things we'd ever need in this life.

WOW

You beat me to the first spot this time friend!
Gloraaaaaayyyyy!

Joagbaje:
I’m so inspired by the life of Jesus; during His earthly ministry, it didn’t matter what He faced, the solution was inside Him. He had the transcendent life; He was never ruffled by anything; He walked in the dominion of the Spirit. That’s the same life He’s given us; a life that requires no aid from outside you. Being born again, you’ve already been given everything you’d ever need:

Joagbaje:
when a man wants anything, which he feels he has no ability for, he prays to God and expects God to answer. However, that isn’t God’s dream for man. God didn’t create man to be limited or disadvantaged; He didn’t want man to need anything from outside him.

Joagbaje:
Like Jesus, you not only have the God-life to the full,you also received the Spirit without measure (John 3:34); thus, all you need is inside you. What are the good things you desire? Bring them forth from within you with your words! What do you want; what do you need; what do you want to see outside?

Joagbaje:




. . . For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself (John 5:26).

I’m so inspired by the life of Jesus; during His earthly ministry, it didn’t matter what He faced, the solution was inside Him. He had the transcendent life; He was never ruffled by anything; He walked in the dominion of the Spirit. That’s the same life He’s given us; a life that requires no aid from outside you. Being born again, you’ve already been given everything you’d ever need:

. . . According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue" (2 Peter 1:3).

John 14:16,
"And I will pray the Father, andhe shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."


God answered by sending us the Holy Spirit. That was all we needed that we didn’t have, but which we now have. With the Holy Spirit coming into us,we got everything we could ever want in life.Let me put it this way for you to have a clearer picture: when a man wants anything, which he feels he has no ability for, he prays to God and expects God to answer. However, that isn’t God’s dream for man. God didn’t create man to be limited or disadvantaged; He didn’t want man to need anything from outside him. That’s why He made the God-life available through Christ Jesus. When you received Christ, you received inherent life that requires no aid or support from outside.

Like Jesus, you not only have the God-life to the full,you also received the Spirit without measure (John 3:34); thus, all you need is inside you. What are the good things you desire? Bring them forth from within you with your words! What do you want; what do you need; what do you want to see outside? John 7:38 says, out of your belly shall flow rivers of living water. Go ahead and bring forth good things from within you:

"A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things…" (Matthew 12:35).

Kenny4lyfe:
You beat me to the first spot this time friend!
Gloraaaaaayyyyy!

ifeness:

Really?!! All you need is inside of you ....... Sounds like the gnostic gospel to me. The bible make you guys confused . One minute God is love and the next minute he needs anger management. Learn to think for yourself,you don't need this book to live a good life.

Zikkyy:





You people like to confuse sha. if everything you need is within you, what's all the talk about tithe and seed sowing all about then you said the Christian is like Jesus, and we know Jesus did not tithe or sow seed to solve any issue.

Bidam: How did you know Jesus did not tithe,where you around at the time?

Zikkyy:

You people like to confuse sha. if everything you need is within you, what's all the talk about tithe and seed sowing all about then you said the Christian is like Jesus, and we know Jesus did not tithe or sow seed to solve any issue.

Zikkyy:

Read the part of my post you highlighted one more time. then come back with your question.

Bidam: Eisegesis abi? Ok how did you/una/we know?

Bidam: Eisegesis abi? Ok how did you/una/we know?

Joagbaje:
There's no talk about sowing of seed in this thread.

Joagbaje:
you could as well say we dont need to worship God or pray to him again since everything is inside you.

Joagbaje:
Let me put it this way for you to have a clearer picture: when a man wants anything, which he feels he has no ability for, he prays to God and expects God to answer. However, that isn’t God’s dream for man. God didn’t create man to be limited or disadvantaged; He didn’t want man to need anything from outside him. That’s why He made the God-life available through Christ Jesus. When you received Christ, you received inherent life that requires no aid or support from outside.

Joagbaje:
dont jump on one sided truth ,get the balance.

Zikkyy:

It obvious you will never get it. So let me assist. responding to your question on whether Jesus tithed will end up derailing this thread. My comment is not about whether Jesus tithed but whether Jesus tithed and/or (sowed seeds) to solve problems. I hope you understand. I am comparing the teaching of seed sowing to solving your problems with your word.

The question of whether Jesus tithed at all should be for another thread. So kindly rephrase your question if you want me to respond. Thanks

Bidam: Of cos i am not disappointed,you have a penchant for play of words.No be zikkyy wey i know..

Zikkyy:

Na so you talk If you want me to respond to your question open another thread and i will respond. am being honest here, my intention was never an attempt to turn this to a tithe discussion thread. my reference to tithe/seed sowing was to show what i see as inconsistency in pastoral teachings. So i cannot discuss tithe or no tithe here.

Zikkyy:

It is not advisable to take the various teachings in isolation. they must complement each other. When i read the OP, i take into consideration other teachings i have heard/read.



To honest that's exactly my understanding of the extract below......






I think it is the preacher that need to provide the balance. You don't just expect me to shout waaooh! anytime you post something from pastor chris (just because it's coming from pastor chris), i need to first process the info and request clarification if confused .

It would be nice if you can help with that clarification sir. The seed sowing teaching indicates a Christian need external help. Thanks.

You are indeed "confused!"
If you don't mind me asking, are you by any chance a descendant of confusious? 'Cus he was confused too!

Zikkyy:


You people like to confuse sha. if everything you need is within you, what's all the talk about tithe and seed sowing all about then you said the Christian is like Jesus, and we know Jesus did not tithe or sow seed to solve any issue.

You are really confused, derailing this thread with a comment that is so off topic!
Sorry eh!

Kenny4lyfe:
You are indeed "confused!"
If you don't mind me asking, are you by any chance a descendant of confusious? 'Cus he was confused too!

Zikkyy:

Another sad soul! direct your anger at your pastor please. its not my fault your pastor has a reputation of being inconsistent (in his teachings).

Gombs:

Proofs pls. I know his pastor is as consistent as anything good could be

Zikkyy:

Another sad soul! direct your anger at your pastor please. its not my fault your pastor has a reputation of being inconsistent (in his teachings).

Zikkyy:
It is not advisable to take the various teachings in isolation. they must complement each other. When i read the OP, i take into consideration other teachings i have heard/read.
To honest that's exactly my understanding of the extract below......

I think it is the preacher that need to provide the balance

It would be nice if you can help with that clarification sir. The seed sowing teaching indicates a Christian need external help. Thanks.

Kenny4lyfe:

I've got just the right medicine for your confused mind!
What to you say about this:

"While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease." Genesis 8:22

Did I still hear you say there's no need for sowing seeds and tithing again yes?

Kenny4lyfe:
Did I still hear you say there's no need for sowing seeds and tithing again yes?[/b]

Joagbaje:
If you go about bible study that way, you will mess things up. We must recognize the context of a writing ,
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Joagbaje:
We must recognize the context of a writing , I'f not , we will judge and criticize even Jesus himself because certain things will look contradictory .

Matthew 7:8
For every one that asketh receiveth. . .


James 4:3
Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

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Joagbaje:
Jesus didnt provide the balance....
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Zikkyy:

you are even more confused. you don't even understand my concern and you are providing solutions.

Zikkyy:

Ask your pastor. he is the one saying everything is inside you. sowing seed for what purpose when everything is inside you?

Joagbaje:
I already answered in my previous post , we are blessed already without condition, but to lay hold on these blessing ,there are principles in Gods kingdom to live by. Worship ,prayer ,giving ,etc are all principle , they don't make us acceptable with God, we are acceptable by the blood of Jesus , we are blessed on the account of his death, but we can be blessed and die in poverty. If a man doesn't exercise faith, if a man doesn't give,if a man doesn't pray , he will miss benefits in God even though it has his name printed on them from heaven.
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Joagbaje:
Like Jesus, you not only have the God-life to the full,you also received the Spirit without measure (John 3:34); thus, all you need is inside you. What are the good things you desire? Bring them forth from within you with your words! What do you want; what do you need; what do you want to see outside?