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Myths And Truths Of Atheism by Nobody: 6:56am On Aug 26, 2013
Sometime ago I created a topic outlining the Truths and Myths of Islam.

Now, it's time to talk about Atheism. In this thread I'm gonna reveal things you don't about atheism or take for granted.

The Myths and Truth of Atheism



1) Myth
Atheists believe that life is meaningless.

Truth
On the contrary, religious people often worry that life is meaningless and imagine that it can only be redeemed by the promise of eternal happiness beyond the grave.

Atheists tend to be quite sure that life is precious. Life is imbued with meaning by being really and fully lived. Our relationships with those we love are meaningful now; they need not last forever to be made so. Atheists tend to find this fear of meaninglessness …well…meaningless.
Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by Nobody: 10:41am On Aug 26, 2013
2) Myth.
Religion is responsible for the greatest crimes in human history.

Truth.
In their opposition to religion, atheists
often like to point out that religious belief
has historically often been a source of violence and persecution.

While this neither proves nor disproves the existence of God; it certainly seems to make a belief in God undesirable.

Unfortunately for atheists, they have some of their own history to deal with. In the early and mid 20 century, atheism, thanks to communism, was at its zenith historically.

More than any time in history, a number of governments were overtly atheistic – there was no religious belief to motivate their leaders and armies. And it was during that time and in those places that the most horrible actions were taken – perhaps the worst in the history of man.

The governments of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, the various leaders of North Korea and Vietnam, as well as various regimes in Eastern Europe, Africa and South America killed tens, perhaps hundreds of millions of people all told. They imprisoned millions more merely for their religious or political beliefs.

The worst forms of torture and forced labor occurred under these systems, and many places have never fully recovered from the ravages of those times. If one were to evaluate beliefs based on
the degree of pain and violence those
beliefs provoked, then atheism would certainly be the standard for motivating
horrible behavior.

The most brutal regimes have been atheistic.
Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by Nobody: 11:05am On Aug 26, 2013
3) Myth
Atheistic Population is no more a minority

Truth
You will always be a small minority. The reality is as long as there have been recognizable human communities, there have been religious beliefs.

Ideas about God or gods were the foundation of musicality, art, literature, even civilization itself. Our capacity for spiritual comprehension is our most distinguishing factor – perhaps more than any other thing. That is what it means to be human.

Even today, religious belief persists and is growing in the world – and this is made even more the case as primarily secular
societies fade due to lack of procreation. If
several thousand years of human history
and all current trends are any indication,
atheism is in its twilight years not its infancy.
Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by Nobody: 11:19am On Aug 26, 2013
4) Myth
Atheism is all about being allergic to B.S

Truth
You can never be certain that what you believe to be true is true.

There is no basis in atheism for any
confidence in one’s ability to discern what
is and isn’t true about reality. The reason
for this is because if one’s main instrument
for deriving beliefs about reality (one’s
physical brain) is the product of undirected incidental forces then there is no guarantee that this instrument is accurate in that respect.

In fact, there is much reason to believe our cognitive equipment is faulty. So atheism contains its own internal defeater; if atheism is true, there is no reason for an atheist to be confident that atheism is true.

#Just saying.
Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:23am On Aug 26, 2013
FrostyZonn: 2) Myth.
Religion is responsible for the greatest crimes in human history.

Truth.
In their opposition to religion, atheists
often like to point out that religious belief
has historically often been a source of violence and persecution.

While this neither proves nor disproves the existence of God; it certainly seems to make a belief in God undesirable.

Unfortunately for atheists, they have some of their own history to deal with. In the early and mid 20 century, atheism, thanks to communism, was at its zenith historically.

More than any time in history, a number of governments were overtly atheistic – there was no religious belief to motivate their leaders and armies. And it was during that time and in those places that the most horrible actions were taken – perhaps the worst in the history of man.

The governments of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, the various leaders of North Korea and Vietnam, as well as various regimes in Eastern Europe, Africa and South America killed tens, perhaps hundreds of millions of people all told. They imprisoned millions more merely for their religious or political beliefs.

The worst forms of torture and forced labor occurred under these systems, and many places have never fully recovered from the ravages of those times. If one were to evaluate beliefs based on
the degree of pain and violence those
beliefs provoked, then atheism would certainly be the standard for motivating
horrible behavior.

The most brutal regimes have been atheistic.

Educate yourself before you post here..... communism is a state religion

Steven Weinberg - "With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

Some mentally imbalanced people use god or religion as a purpose to carry out horrendous acts. If a radical Muslim detonates a suicide bomb, that person is seen by many to be a martyr. If radical Christian kills a doctor for performing abortions, that person is seen by many to be a hero. Without religion, these acts may or may not have been carried out, but the people doing them would be classified as evil by all.

Lesser forms of evil are carried out by otherwise decent people in the name of religion such as misogyny, homophobia, fear mongering, etc. The penalty for apostasy under Sharia Law - even today - is death. This penalty is increasingly unlikely to be carried out since it has been brought to the attention of the rest of the world, but it is still a part of the Law.
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I like to add to that Weinberg quote Christopher Hitchens' challenge:
Try to think of a good act performed by a person in the name of God or religion that would not have been performed by a non-believer.

Maybe when you compare this, you will come to realise that that statement isn't myth but fact
Now, try to think of an evil act carried out by a person (or group) solely in the name of God or religion that would not have been carried out by a non-believer.

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Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:31am On Aug 26, 2013
FrostyZonn: 3) Myth
Atheistic Population is no more a minority

Truth
You will always be a small minority. The reality is as long as there have been recognizable human communities, there have been religious beliefs.

Ideas about God or gods were the foundation of musicality, art, literature, even civilization itself. Our capacity for spiritual comprehension is our most distinguishing factor – perhaps more than any other thing. That is what it means to be human.

Even today, religious belief persists and is growing in the world – and this is made even more the case as primarily secular
societies fade due to lack of procreation. If
several thousand years of human history
and all current trends are any indication,
atheism is in its twilight years not its infancy.

Lies from hell again.

Religion is not culture......culture covers art, music, literature and civilization. Spirituality is completely different from Religion.......religion is only forcing itself and trying to steal spirituality.

African tradition and society is is more secular and atheistic.

In yoruba belief.....ELEDUMARE is not Yahweh but totality of everything in the universe....this is the reason yoruba people worship even their part of body like toes, some pray with breast and private parts. Ori eni (your consciousness) is your God. If you share the same belief with me, you worship with me and if you dont, you dine with me.

Tradition is not religion.....pls stop spreading your ignorance

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Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by Nobody: 11:37am On Aug 26, 2013
5) Myth
Atheism has a moral compass

Truth
There is no objective way to evaluate
moral choices. This is another truth that invites atheists to imagine something that can’t actually exist.

In a purposeless universe, there is no basis for contending that creatures who incidentally evolved there should behave in a particular manner; there is no anchor to which we can tether an idea of right or wrong moral choices.

From an atheist perspective moral claims are wholly derived from our own mental faculties – and as we saw in the previous point that would make them fairly arbitrary.

This is especially true considering there are
competing claims about right and wrong
behavior. So then while an atheist might
desire to act a certain way or desire that others acted in a certain way, he or she
can never say others should act in a certain way as no human behavior is actually ever ‘wrong’ in any objective sense.

Atheists often argue that they are as
moral as any religious believer – but such
a claim requires morals to exist in the first place!
Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:49am On Aug 26, 2013
FrostyZonn: The Myths and Truth of Atheism



1) Myth
Atheists believe that life is meaningless.

Truth
On the contrary, religious people often worry that life is meaningless and imagine that it can only be redeemed by the promise of eternal happiness beyond the grave.

Atheists tend to be quite sure that life is precious. Life is imbued with meaning by being really and fully lived. Our relationships with those we love are meaningful now; they need not last forever to be made so. Atheists tend to find this fear of meaninglessness …well…meaningless.

Which of the atheist told you this? Or you have forgotten that it is the religious people that claim without God in person's life, such life is meaningless and misrable?

You religious folks cant provide us the real purpose of life.....what you told us was just inventions from your minds. Even the bible said life and everything we do on earth is vanity upon vanity. The bible points that every man activities is just chasing of winds. Here is an excerpt from the bible :

Ecclesiastes 1
English Standard Version (ESV)

All Is Vanity
1 The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.
2 Vanity of vanities, says the Preacher, vanity of vanities! All is vanity.

Ecclesiastes 5:7 NIV
New International Version

Much dreaming and many words are meaningless. Therefore stand in awe of God.

Ecclesiastes 1:14
New International Version

I have seen all the things that are done under the sun; all of them are meaningless, a chasing after the wind.

Ecclesiastes 2:17
(NIV)

17 So I hated life, because the work that is done under the sun was grievous to me. All of it is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.


Why on earth and you spreading your gospel with deceit and con lies? Yep....i know the reason you are a christian

You not worthy of discussion.....your lies is too much. Cheers

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Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by Nobody: 11:51am On Aug 26, 2013
6) Myth
You are an atheist by virtue of when and where you were born

Truth
A flawed logic

Atheists like to say this about the religious (in an attempt to reduce religious belief
down something we unconsciously inherit
from our parents) but the reality is while
people convert to and from various religions all around the world, atheists are
by in large concentrated in the more advanced industrial nations.

The reason for that is simple – being an atheist really only works for the relatively wealthy and comfortable.

Most of the world outside of industrialized countries must endure the harsh realities of life – hunger, disease violence, shorter lives. This flippant atheist tagline, “ There’s probably no God…now stop worrying and enjoy your life” makes absolutely no sense if one lives in a slum in Africa or India, or under one deals daily with the ravages of drug cartels in some central American city.
Atheists are atheists because they have the luxury of denying the reality of that which gives human lives essential dignity.
Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:06pm On Aug 26, 2013
FrostyZonn: 6) Myth
You are an atheist by virtue of when and where you were born

Truth
A flawed logic

Atheists like to say this about the religious (in an attempt to reduce religious belief
down something we unconsciously inherit
from our parents) but the reality is while
people convert to and from various religions all around the world, atheists are
by in large concentrated in the more advanced industrial nations.

The reason for that is simple – being an atheist really only works for the relatively wealthy and comfortable.

Most of the world outside of industrialized countries must endure the harsh realities of life – hunger, disease violence, shorter lives. This flippant atheist tagline, “ There’s probably no God…now stop worrying and enjoy your life” makes absolutely no sense if one lives in a slum in Africa or India, or under one deals daily with the ravages of drug cartels in some central American city.
Atheists are atheists because they have the luxury of denying the reality of that which gives human lives essential dignity.

Im not very sure you post with your thinking cap on. Were you born a christian or a muslim? If anybody convert to any religion, he/she does that because his/her awareness and conviction to the religion. You are a christian because your parents are either a christian or you are born in a christian household/community or you came across christianity at a point in time. You are not zoroaster because you dont know about it or might have not heard about it. You are not Jain because you have not heard or came in contact with people who practise jainism. If you were born in saudi, you will probably be muslim before you convert to another religion. People were not born with religion. You such a pathetic liar.

Babies are born as agnostist or more likely atheist. Quit this lies for your future

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Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by Nobody: 12:08pm On Aug 26, 2013
7) Myth
Atheism supports Human rights and Equality.

Truth
In the atheist scheme of reality, only that
which has a physical component can exist, so claims of inherent rights or human equality are necessarily understood to be,
like morals, thus wholly illusory.

Take for example the concept of human equality. A person with substantive intelligence would certainly be more valuable than someone with a mental defect.

A healthy person who can contribute to society would have more much worth than an ill or handicapped person – and so in a world where only that which was physical is real, ‘equality’ could not exist.

Much the same could be said of the notions of rights or liberties – these entities can’t be found in a materialistic universe. This would explain in part why wholly atheistic regimes have such atrocious human rights records(China, Cuba, Venezuela, etc) – they are under no obligation to recognize intrinsic human worth.
Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:24pm On Aug 26, 2013
FrostyZonn: 7) Myth
Atheism supports Human rights and Equality.

Truth
In the atheist scheme of reality, only that
which has a physical component can exist, so claims of inherent rights or human equality are necessarily understood to be,
like morals, thus wholly illusory.

Take for example the concept of human equality. A person with substantive intelligence would certainly be more valuable than someone with a mental defect.

A healthy person who can contribute to society would have more much worth than an ill or handicapped person – and so in a world where only that which was physical is real, ‘equality’ could not exist.

Much the same could be said of the notions of rights or liberties – these entities can’t be found in a materialistic universe. This would explain in part why wholly atheistic regimes have such atrocious human rights records(China, Cuba, Venezuela, etc) – they are under no obligation to recognize intrinsic human worth.



This is the most stupid and silly post. I think seun should create a button for voting for the most dumb post on nairaland.

I am an Atheist.... I support some of christ teaching like love, charity and respect for authorities. I support Islam doctrines that involve giving charity. I love buddhism for their philosophical concepts. I have posted here praising Mother Theresa, Martin Luther, Malcox and even the Nigerian pastor Tunde Bakare. I have posted here praising Malala for his female education struggle. Who said only atheist support human right and equality?

I am a great fan of African spirituality. I study and admire teachings of Ifa. Ifa does not discriminate women. Women are priest and carry lots in Ifa tradition. Jainism is the best religion I give the crown of non-violent, not torturing even animals, insects and living organism. The religion gives room for human right and equalitys. Jainism is atheist religion and I give it to them the crown of tolerance.

China, russia and communist countries are practising state religion. They have faith, holy books and saviours. Educate yourself

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Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:43pm On Aug 26, 2013
FrostyZonn: 4) Myth
Atheism is all about being allergic to B.S

Truth
You can never be certain that what you believe to be true is true.

There is no basis in atheism for any
confidence in one’s ability to discern what
is and isn’t true about reality. The reason
for this is because if one’s main instrument
for deriving beliefs about reality (one’s
physical brain) is the product of undirected incidental forces then there is no guarantee that this instrument is accurate in that respect.

In fact, there is much reason to believe our cognitive equipment is faulty. So atheism contains its own internal defeater; if atheism is true, there is no reason for an atheist to be confident that atheism is true.

#Just saying.

Your opinion though.

But your whole claim here is lie. Have any atheist claimed atheism is truth? Do atheist evangelize atheism?

Obviously you forgot or ignorantly didn't realise you are an atheist too. Do you believe in Zeus, Thor, Osiris, Hercule, Allah, King Zoro or the flying pig? Your disbelief in this God/GODS made you an atheist too.

Ask yourself what makes christianity truth among thousands of religion out there or what makes your denomination and version of christianity truth among tens of thousand denominations out there?

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Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by Nobody: 12:59pm On Aug 26, 2013
Why is Frostyzonn mixing truth and myth?

Guy, this thread is full of ignorance

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Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by Nobody: 1:23pm On Aug 26, 2013
FOLYKAZE:

Educate yourself before you post here..... communism is a state religion

In its original form, yes it is. Karl Marx distrusted religion and saw it as a tool to control the masses.

You are obviously lacking a little in the comprehension faculty. I suggest you start reading up to catch up with the rest of the world.



FOLYKAZE: Steven Weinberg - "With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

Okay, so we are doing quotes now??

Okay, I will oblige.

Em...I think a certain genius had something to say about that:

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstein.

Who the hell is Weinberg?

I think even a toddler might have heard the name Einstein been mentioned in passing.

Who has an higher IQ between the 2 for this quotes to be taken seriously?

Obviously not your Weiner...Oops!...Weinberg.

FOLYKAZE: Some mentally imbalanced people use god or religion as a purpose to carry out horrendous acts. If a radical Muslim detonates a suicide bomb, that person is seen by many to be a martyr. If radical Christian kills a doctor for performing abortions, that person is seen by many to be a hero. Without religion, these acts may or may not have been carried out, but the people doing them would be classified as evil by all.

Stop fishing, will you? What do you even understand by the world extremist?

A bomb goes off somewhere, and you blame religion. But what your tiny brain fails to realise is the that extremism has nothing to do with religion, - it's mostly political.

In a world devoid of religion, a lot of violence is inevitable because, there are no more consequences, repercussions, blow-backs, - after all, everything is meaningless, right?

FOLYKAZE: Lesser forms of evil are carried out by otherwise decent people in the name of religion such as misogyny, homophobia, fear mongering, etc. The penalty for apostasy under Sharia Law - even today - is death. This penalty is increasingly unlikely to be carried out since it has been brought to the attention of the rest of the world, but it is still a part of the Law.

Without religion, the world will be in complete chaos.

There are a lot of factors as to why;

1) In a world absence of morality clause, People humping dogs will become legal.

2) Smoking marijuana, and doing hard drugs will become legit.

3) Cloning of humans and animals will be passed into law.

4) Homosexualism(Yes, I said it) will become the new vogue.

etc...

These are simply tip of an iceberg as to why the world need religion. Religion restores order, give one a morality compass and so on.

Religion of course like all things under the Sun is not perfect. Bad elements are bound to erupt now and again, but the gains are far more greater than the setbacks.


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FOLYKAZE: I like to add to that Weinberg quote Christopher Hitchens' challenge:
Try to think of a good act performed by a person in the name of God or religion that would not have been performed by a non-believer.

Skip...

FOLYKAZE: Maybe when you compare this, you will come to realise that that statement isn't myth but fact
Now, try to think of an evil act carried out by a person (or group) solely in the name of God or religion that would not have been carried out by a non-believer.

A lot of them, dude. Atheism has no morals. People without morals are capable of anything.
Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by Nobody: 1:30pm On Aug 26, 2013
Logicboy03: Why is Frostyzonn mixing truth and myth?

Guy, this thread is full of ignorance

3 words for ya.

Truth is bitter.
Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by MrTroll(m): 1:41pm On Aug 26, 2013
FrostyZonn:

3 words for ya.

Truth is bitter.
3 words for ya.

Ignorance is bliss.

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Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by MrTroll(m): 1:43pm On Aug 26, 2013
This thread is so full of it. You cannot even make a proper argument. Mixing up stuffs all over the place. Heavy nonsense. Go back to school bro, go pick up logic 101. . .

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Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by Nobody: 2:05pm On Aug 26, 2013
FOLYKAZE:

Lies from hell again.

Religion is not culture......culture covers art, music, literature and civilization. Spirituality is completely different from Religion.......religion is only forcing itself and trying to steal spirituality.

Again a misfire...

Culture didn't just sprung form nowhere, dude. It has it's origin in Religion. Before the advent of Christianity and Islam, many civilization were actively engaged in heathern gods worship, which is so intricately inter-woven into their various cultures, that an outsider wouldn't even begin to comprehend which one is which.

Works of arts, started as such as artists strive to put their imagination into physical interpretation. Masterpieces like the pyramids of Egypt, Statue of Hecules, Pyramids of the Mayans, etc, sprung up all their majestic splendor. All this great work of arts were all done in honor of one god of another.

Literature and Music also had a similar and parallel nature.
Culture, civilization, arts, music owes a lot to religion, and telling yourself otherwise is only making you look desperate and ignorant.

On the issue of spirituality, Religion is all about being one with ones spirituality. Spirituality is religion and religion is spirituality...Take it or leave it




FOLYKAZE: African tradition and society is is more secular and atheistic.

What?!! ¡¡Madre Dios!!





FOLYKAZE: In yoruba belief.....ELEDUMARE is not Yahweh but totality of everything in the universe....this is the reason yoruba people worship even their part of body like toes, some pray with breast and private parts. Ori eni (your consciousness) is your God. If you share the same belief with me, you worship with me and if you dont, you dine with me.

Just when I thought anyone can't get any stupidier...

And somehow you compared this with being atheistic? Wow! That means you don't even know the true meaning of the word. Are you sure you are even an atheist?

For the fact that there is worshipping involved(even if it's their genitàls), that is enough to put them in the category of religious, even it's of heathen kind.








FOLYKAZE: Tradition is not religion.....pls stop spreading your ignorance

Geez...

If you have nothing meaningful to contribute, just hold your peace. It's not a must that you should respond.
Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by Nobody: 2:17pm On Aug 26, 2013
Mr Troll: 3 words for ya.

Ignorance is bliss.

I only have one word for you.

Meme

[img]http://1.bp..com/-UJsJQvd1mM4/T1vGbkZPzSI/AAAAAAAABLw/tt0Hda97tGE/s640/I+am+an+atheist.JPG[/img]
Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by Nobody: 2:27pm On Aug 26, 2013
FrostyZonn:

I only have one word for you.

Meme

[img]http://1.bp..com/-UJsJQvd1mM4/T1vGbkZPzSI/AAAAAAAABLw/tt0Hda97tGE/s640/I+am+an+atheist.JPG[/img]


Silly meme, silly op

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Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by Nobody: 2:42pm On Aug 26, 2013
FOLYKAZE:

Which of the atheist told you this? Or you have forgotten that it is the religious people that claim without God in person's life, such life is meaningless and misrable?

Life is meaningless, until you have a purpose. To the the theists, their purpose is the belief in a supreme force or forces.

To an atheist, life is precious with or without God or gods. They tell the world that life is meaningless, yet they refuse to step off the roof of their houses, or lie to people about their denominations - or lack of thereof? Why do you think that there are only very few atheists in life threatening careers, like police, fireman, and politicians?

Because they value life more than an average theist, even if they consciously wouldn't admit it themselves.

On this, they are raking hypocrites.

FOLYKAZE: You religious folks cant provide us the real purpose of life.....what you told us was just inventions from your minds. Even the bible said life and everything we do on earth is vanity upon vanity. The bible points that every man activities is just chasing of winds. Here is an excerpt from the bible :

Ecclesiastes 1
English Standard Version (ESV)

All Is Vanity
1 The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.
2 Vanity of vanities, says the Preacher, vanity of vanities! All is vanity.

Ecclesiastes 5:7 NIV
New International Version

Much dreaming and many words are meaningless. Therefore stand in awe of God.

Ecclesiastes 1:14
New International Version

I have seen all the things that are done under the sun; all of them are meaningless, a chasing after the wind.

Ecclesiastes 2:17
(NIV)

17 So I hated life, because the work that is done under the sun was grievous to me. All of it is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.

Skip...


FOLYKAZE: Why on earth and you spreading your gospel with deceit and con lies? Yep....i know the reason you are a christian

Skip...

FOLYKAZE: You not worthy of discussion.....your lies is too much. Cheers

*Yawns*
Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by FOLYKAZE(m): 2:46pm On Aug 26, 2013
FrostyZonn:

In its original form, yes it is. Karl Marx distrusted religion and saw it as a tool to control the masses.

You agree communism is a state religion so why are you still attaching it to atheism? Are you just confused or crazy?

You are obviously lacking a little in the comprehension faculty. I suggest you start reading up to catch up with the rest of the world.

I suggest one part of your brain is dead or completely damaged. You have agree communism is a state religion.....stop spreading your obfuscation and get a life.





Okay, so we are doing quotes now??

Like Mr Troll puts it, Ignorance is bliss. And you are really displaying here that you are a dunce ranting your ignorance here. I quote for you to understand more better.

Okay, I will oblige.

Em...I think a certain genius had something to say about that:

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstein.

Did I tell you fact didn't originate from fable? This doesn't make us follow and design fable as truth. The reason we should be skeptical and try to provide answers to every question instead of saying God does all. Mumu

Who the hell is Weinberg?[/quote]

Research on a topic before posting here. Your ignorance is alarming.

[b]I think even a toddler might have heard the name Einstein been mentioned in passing.

You are going from ignorance to stupidity. Can you know of something you not aware of? Please do more research before posting here.

Who has an higher IQ between the 2 for this quotes to be taken seriously?

You are the disgrace to intelligence when you cant see they were saying the same thing. Nobody is saying religious people partake in evil but it take religion for a person to partake in evil. I dont know if you read the violent command of killing non-believers in the bible or that in the quran. Such a pathetic ignoramus nigga

Obviously not your Weiner...Oops!...Weinberg.

yawn

Stop fishing, will you? What do you even understand by the world extremist?

Stop displaying your ignorance. The bible orders you to kill non-believers, homosexuals, spiritualist and those that blaspheme. This is directly from your bible.....it obvious you not partaking in this because your God is stupid or insane when inspiring those laws OR you just an hypocrite.


A bomb goes off somewhere, and you blame religion. But what your tiny brain fails to realise is the that extremism has nothing to do with religion, - it's mostly political.

Lol....another foolish claim. A bomb went off because politician aid bombers or religion does? What should I blame if not religion. Are the bombers in Northern Nigerian bombing for PDP or APC or spearheading Islam and Sharia? Is Islam not a religion? The bible instruct christians to kill Gays.....the gays killed in uganda aint killed for political agenda but for religion sake. You stupid bro

In a world devoid of religion, a lot of violence is inevitable because, there are no more consequences, repercussions, blow-backs, - after all, everything is meaningless, right?

Indeed....in a land devoured by Religion, we know violence and atrocity is order of the day......AFRICA..
.saudi Arabia is an example.


Without religion, the world will be in complete chaos.

People will still disagree without religion....world will greatly become less violent when religion is taken over

There are a lot of factors as to why;

1) In a world absence of morality clause, People humping dogs will become legal.

2) Smoking marijuana, and doing hard drugs will become legit.

3) Cloning of humans and animals will be passed into law.

4) Homosexualism(Yes, I said it) will become the new vogue.

etc...

Pastors are gays....pastors take over marijuana.

Your ignorance didn't tell you that wheat was artificially made....cloning of animal provides more meat.

These are simply tip of an iceberg as to why the world need religion. Religion restores order, give one a morality compass and so on.

Religion of course like all things under the Sun is not perfect. Bad elements are bound to erupt now and again, but the gains are far more greater than the setbacks.


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A lot of them, dude. Atheism has no morals. People without morals are capable of anything.

Lies from hell.

Inventing lies from your head wouldn't make your claim fact. Bring evidence from a trusted source that religion discriminate atrocities.

The least we see in Religious communities across Africa is more violence, more dishonesty and atrocities.

Save your lies for dummies like you

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Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by MrTroll(m): 2:53pm On Aug 26, 2013
FrostyZonn:

I only have one word for you.

Meme

[img]http://1.bp..com/-UJsJQvd1mM4/T1vGbkZPzSI/AAAAAAAABLw/tt0Hda97tGE/s640/I+am+an+atheist.JPG[/img]
really? undecided nna mehn, guy your own pass vedaxcool own. I didn't think it possible but here. . .

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Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by Nobody: 3:08pm On Aug 26, 2013
FOLYKAZE:

You agree communism is a state religion so why are you still attaching it to atheism? Are you just confused or crazy?


When?? Dude, Google is your friend. Read up on communism and fascism, you come to realise that both have their origins in atheism. China practise a pure form of communism, where atheism is the order of the day.

What a confused an half-witted individual, wow!



FOLYKAZE: Your ignorance didn't tell you that wheat was artificially made....cloning of animal provides more meat.

See what I mean, folks? The level of idiocy is simply A-MHa-Zing!



P.S; I didn't bother with the rest of your meaningless and hatred filled post, cuz it's - frankly speaking - a waste of time and space.
Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by Nobody: 3:10pm On Aug 26, 2013
Mr Troll: really? undecided nna mehn, guy your own pass vedaxcool own. I didn't think it possible but here. . .

Well, now you know...

Are you happy now?

Okay.

Now move on.
Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by FOLYKAZE(m): 3:11pm On Aug 26, 2013
FrostyZonn:

Life is meaningless, until you have a purpose. To the the theists, their purpose is the belief in a supreme force or forces.

Do you see what you are doing to yourself? The more you try to fit in, the more you confuse yourself.....at most, you expose your ignorance. You once said atheist believe life is meaningless but now agreeing theist said life is meaningless. Did supernatural beings inquired for your worship? He should show his face and tell the world he wants worship because he is hungry for that. It just stupid your God created the whole universe and put you in it to worship him. In this world, you are nothing.....in the universe, even the whole solar system we are is nothing. So your God is happy that nothing worship him? Your God is omni-silly

[quoteTo an atheist, life is ]precious with or without God or gods. They tell the world that life is meaningless, yet they refuse to step off the roof of their houses, or lie to people about their denominations - or lack of thereof? Why do you think that there are only very few atheists in life threatening careers, like police, fireman, and politicians?[/quote]

You such a foolish, deceitful, hypocritical and deluded christian. Here is from your bible..

Ecclesiastes 9:7-9 (NIV)
7 Go, eat your food with gladness, and drink your wine with a joyful heart, for it is now that God favors what you do.
8 Always be clothed in white, and always anoint your head with oil.
9 Enjoy life with your wife, whom you love, all the days of this meaningless life that God has given you under the sun--all your meaningless days. For this is your lot in life and in your toilsome labor under the sun.


Ecclesiastes 2:24
New International Version

A person can do nothing better than to eat and drink and find satisfaction in their own toil. This too, I see, is from the hand of God,

Indeed you not reading your bible....your ignorance is alarming.

Because they value life more than an average theist, even if they consciously wouldn't admit it themselves.

On this, they are raking hypocrites.



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*Yawns*

What should we expect? Your God is stupid for inspiring those biblical quotes you rejected. Lol.

You are doing more harm to christianity.......keep killing it. Doing my job. Lol

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Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by Nobody: 3:21pm On Aug 26, 2013
[size=16]Try to be civil guys, or better yet, hold your peace.

Commenting on this thread no be by force oh!![/size]
Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by FOLYKAZE(m): 3:33pm On Aug 26, 2013
FrostyZonn:

Again a misfire...

Culture didn't just sprung form nowhere, dude. It has it's origin in Religion. Before the advent of Christianity and Islam, many civilization were actively engaged in heathern gods worship, which is so intricately inter-woven into their various cultures, that an outsider wouldn't even begin to comprehend which one is which.

So it came from religion? And tomorrow your kid will read this? Im sure they will publicly call you stupid person

Works of arts, started as such as artists strive to put their imagination into physical interpretation. Masterpieces like the pyramids of Egypt, Statue of Hecules, Pyramids of the Mayans, etc, sprung up all their majestic splendor. All this great work of arts were all done in honor of one god of another.

Failed to add kings, heroes or mighty people who turns god

Literature and Music also had a similar and parallel nature.
Culture, civilization, arts, music owes a lot to religion, and telling yourself otherwise is only making you look desperate and ignorant.

Religion owes an apology to culture, arts, writings and music for massively destruction on them. Stop holding only to sides that favours you.

On the issue of spirituality, Religion is all about being one with ones spirituality. Spirituality is religion and religion is spirituality...Take it or leave it

The religious dictator is here....take it or leave it. Olodo. Spirituality is not religion. It obvious that religion has stolen spirituality but they are indeed different. Read up from trusted sources.

Just when I thought anyone can't get any stupidier...

And somehow you compared this with being atheistic? Wow! That means you don't even know the true meaning of the word. Are you sure you are even an atheist?

What exactly are you crying for? Are you just confused about the term god or you just ignorant thinking god is someone living in the sky? Money is god.....god sometime means admiration for something. This didn't imply you should worship everything you admire.

Dull..... I said yoruba people are secular. Your white slave masters had completely brainwashed you. Can you deny your consciousness? Nope....... If the yoruba people says your consciousness is god....does that mean it supernatural being living in the sky and who creates the world as religion define God? I fear that thing in your head.....the black brain


For the fact that there is worshipping involved(even if it's their genitàls), that is enough to put them in the category of religious, even it's of heathen kind.

Fine because I worship Ronaldo.... Im practising a new religion called ronaldoism. You complet daft.........KINGS ARE WORSHIPPED. Husband are worshipped by wives. If you think worshipping is only for sky daddies, then you completely lost. Again, research the difference between spirituality and religion........you will always lost me if you dont.










Geez...

If you have nothing meaningful to contribute, just hold your peace. It's not a must that you should respond.

busted

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Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by MrTroll(m): 3:46pm On Aug 26, 2013
FrostyZonn: [size=16]Try to be civil guys, or better yet, hold your peace.

Commenting on this thread no be by force oh!![/size]

hehehehehe. Typing in larger fonts won't make you look any less silly or make your words any more sensible. Just give up man, your thread is silly.

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Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by FOLYKAZE(m): 5:57pm On Aug 26, 2013
The whole thread is silly..... OP try again....you busted

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Re: Myths And Truths Of Atheism by Nobody: 9:05pm On Aug 26, 2013
frostyzonn f-rustybrain lipsrsealed

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