While Jehovah's Witnesses as a
whole abhor paedophilia and the
Watchtower denounces child
abuse, faulty and self-serving
policies have contributed to
paedophilia occurring in the
organisation that could have
been prevented. The result has
been harm to thousands of child
victims and distraught parents,
and the Watchtower Society
paying millions of dollars in
settlements.
The Watchtower Society has
come in for tremendous criticism
globally for its stance on
paedophilia and been the subject
of a multitude of media reports.
silentlambs.com lists numerous
examples that highlight the
extent of child abuse amongst
Jehovah's Witnesses. This
extends to prominent elders at
Bethel, such as Jesus Cano, who
handed out naked pictures of
himself to young males at
airports whilst travelling on
District Convention speaking
assignments, and was arrested
in June 2006.1
The situation amongst Jehovah's
Witnesses regarding paedophiles
is reminiscent of the Catholic
Church. The New York Times has
however noted a difference
between pedophilia amongst
Jehovah's Witnesses and
Catholic's. In the Catholic Church:
"most of the people accused of
abuse are priests and a vast
majority of the victims were boys
and young men. In the Jehovah's
Witnesses some of those accused
are elders, but most are
congregation members. The
victims who have stepped
forward are mostly girls and
young women, and many
accusations involve incest."
August 11, 2002
There have been several reasons
that paedophiles have been able
to find sanctuary amongst
Jehovah's Witnesses and that the
Watchtower Society is now being
held accountable for the actions
of its members.2 Most damaging,
and described in detail below,
were the following:
The two witness rule to establish
Scriptural crimes
The three year rule for sins of
elders
Other concepts also at play have
been:
Worldly wisdom cannot be
trusted
Reproach must not be bought on
Jehovah's Organization -
Witnesses are expected to solve
problems within
Everyone must engage in
preaching
Since 1997, there has been
improvement in Watchtower
policies regarding child abuse,
particularly due to pressure from
the media and legal cases, and
included are the latest
Watchtower regulations for each
point.
Two Witness Rule
Of most damage is the "Two
Witness" Rule. Until the late
1990s, egregious Watchtower
policy dictated that two
witnesses must be present at the
same sexual encounter, for the
perpetrator to be considered to
have committed a Scriptural
offence. In the case of child
molestation, there are almost
never two witnesses. This meant
that even when several children
made an accusation against the
same brother, the elders were to
do nothing. Without two
witnesses, the only time action
could be taken was when the
accused confessed. Elders were
aware of serial child abusers, yet
no action was taken either
within the congregation, or by
contacting the police. It is
incomprehensible that the
Governing Body could sanction
such a policy.
The Watchtower 1995 Nov 1
pp.28-9 gave the following
advice regarding accusations of
child abuse.
"What Can Elders Do?
If the elders are approached by a
member of the congregation
who is experiencing flashbacks
or repressed memories of child
abuse, two of them are usually
assigned to help. These elders
should kindly encourage the
afflicted one to focus for the time
being on coping with the
emotional distress. The names of
any remembered abusers should
be kept in strict confidence.
The elders primary task is to act
as shepherds. (Isaiah 32:1,2;
1Peter 5:2,3) They should be
especially careful to clothe
[themselves] with the tender
affections of compassion,
kindness, lowliness of mind,
mildness, and long-suffering.
(Colossians 3:12) Let them listen
in a kindly way and then apply
healing words from the
Scriptures. (Proverbs 12:18)
Some who are afflicted with
painful memories have
expressed appreciation for
elders who make regular visits or
even telephone calls to check to
see how they are doing. Such
contacts need not take a lot of
time, but they show that
Jehovahs organization cares.
When the afflicted one realizes
that his Christian brothers truly
love him, he may be helped to
recover a considerable degree of
emotional balance.
What if the sufferer decides that
he wants to make an accusation?
Then the two elders can advise
him that, in line with the
principle at Matthew 18:15, he
should personally approach the
accused about the matter. If the
accuser is not emotionally able to
do this face-to-face, it can be
done by telephone or perhaps by
writing a letter. In this way the
one accused is given the
opportunity to go on record
before Jehovah with his answer
to the accusation. He may even
be able to present evidence that
he could not have committed the
abuse. Or perhaps the one
accused will confess, and a
reconciliation may be achieved.
What a blessing that would be! If
there is a confession, the two
elders can handle matters further
in accordance with Scriptural
principles.
If the accusation is denied, the
elders should explain to the
accuser that nothing more can
be done in a judicial way . And
the congregation will continue to
view the one accused as an
innocent person. The Bible says
that there must be two or three
witnesses before judicial action
can be taken. (2 Corinthians 13:1;
1 Timothy 5:19) Even if more
than one person remembers
abuse by the same individual, the
nature of these recalls is just too
uncertain to base judicial
decisions on them without other
supporting evidence. This does
not mean that such memories
are viewed as false (or that they
are viewed as true). But Bible
principles must be followed in
establishing a matter judicially.
What if the one accused though
denying the wrong doing is
really guilty? Does he get away
with it, as it were? Certainly not!
The question of his guilt or
innocence can be safely left in
Jehovahs hands. The sins of
some men are publicly manifest,
leading directly to judgment, but
as for other men their sins also
become manifest later. (1Timothy
5:24; Romans 12:19; 14:12) The
book of Proverbs says: The
expectation of the righteous
ones is a rejoicing, but the very
hope of the wicked ones will
perish. When a wicked man dies,
his hope perishes. (Proverbs
10:28; 11:7) Ultimately, Jehovah
God and Christ Jesus render
everlasting judgment in justice. 1
Corinthians 4:5."
It was only after ongoing
negative publicity since the
1990's that this was changed to
allow "two-witnesses" to include
a single witness from two
separate occasions.
"In recent weeks, the press in
this country has focused
attention on the way accusations
of child abuse are handled by
various religious organizations.
Such reports may cause some
sincere individuals to ask about
the procedures followed by
Jehovah's Witnesses.
We expect the elders to
investigate every allegation of
child abuse. Even one abused
child is one too many. However,
in evaluating the evidence, they
must bear in mind the Bible's
clear direction: "No single
witness should rise up against a
man respecting any error or any
sin. At the mouth of two
witnesses or at the mouth of
three witnesses the matter
should stand
good." (Deuteronomy 19:15)
Later, this requirement to
consider testimony of two or
three witnesses was confirmed
by Jesus. (Matthew 18:16) Thus,
although they investigate every
allegation, the elders are not
authorized by the Scriptures to
take congregational action
unless there is a confession or
there are two credible witnesses.
However, if two persons are
witnesses to separate incidents
of the same kind of wrongdoing,
their testimony can be deemed
sufficient to take action.-" I
Timothy 5:19,24,25." - TO ALL
CONGREGATIONS IN THE UNITED
STATES Letter to Elders May 24,
2002
In the case of child abuse, this
still has not gone far enough,
and for the sake of children in
the congregation, precautions
should be taken as soon as there
is an accusation from "one
witness".
The Watchtower tries to shift
responsibility for its policy to God
and the Bible.
"The Bible says that there must
be two or three witnesses before
judicial action can be taken. (2
Corinthians 13:1; 1 Timothy
5:19)" Watchtower 1995 Nov 1
pp.28-9
The Watchtower's legalistic
insistence of the two witness
rule for child abuse is a
misapplication of Bible guidance.
Small victimised children cannot
usually bring the allegation
themselves and need extra
protection. To insist on a strict
two witness policy in situations
involving defenceless children is
an unrealistic Pharisaical policy.
Jesus denounced fanatical
adherence to the law at the
sacrifice of higher principles of
love and mercy. He graphically
demonstrated law does not
override humanity by healing a
man's withered hand on the
Sabbath. Applying the two-
witness rule to pedophile
accusations is a case of fanatical
adherence to the letter of the
law, so denounced by Jesus.
Whilst the two witness rule is a
sensible guideline in preventing
the miscarriage of justice, it is
open to abuse, and hence needs
to be used within reason. For
instance, a guilty person can
deny an accusation from a single
witness and avoid punishment.
Alternatively, two people can
collude to claim an innocent
person is guilty and have them
unjustly punished. In the case of
child abuse, an area in which
elders are painfully unqualified to
act as judge, trained authorities
and experts should always be
involved.
It is universally accepted that
protection of children is of
paramount importance. The
United Nations Declaration of the
Rights of the Child, adopted
1959, recognises the basic fact
that children require special
protection, a point glaringly
overlooked by the Governing
Body when establishing its rules
on child abuse.
2. The child shall enjoy special
protection, and shall be given
opportunities and facilities, by
law and by other means, to
enable him to develop physically,
mentally, morally, spiritually and
socially in a healthy and normal
manner and in conditions of
freedom and dignity. In the
enactment of laws for this
purpose, the best interests of the
child shall be the paramount
consideration.
8. The child shall in all
circumstances be among the first
to receive protection and relief.
Click here for a PDF of the
Declaration in full , as appearing
at http://www.un.org/
cyberschoolbus/humanrights/
resources/child.asp (Sep 12
2012).
The guidelines in the 2010 Elders
Manual continue to fall
disappointingly short in
providing children with special
protection, stating:
"Even though a Christian has
been accused of wrongdoing
serious enough to require
judicial action, a judicial
committee should not be formed
unless the wrongdoing has been
established. What kind of
evidence is acceptable? ...
There must be two or three
eyewitnesses, not just people
repeating hearsay; no action can
taken if there only one witness.
Deut 19:15; John 8:17.
If there are two or three
witnesses to the same kind of
wrongdoing but each one is
witness to a separate incident ,
the elders can consider their
testimony. While such evidence is
acceptable to establish guilt, is
preferable to have two witnesses
to the same occurrence of
wrongdoing.
If the accused denies the
accusation , the investigating
elders should try to arrange a
meeting with him and the
accuser together. (Note: If the
accusation involves child sexual
abuse and the victim is currently
a minor, the elders should
contact the branch office before
arranging a meeting with the
child and the alleged abuser .) If
the accuser or the accused is
unwilling to meet with the elders
or if the accused continues to
deny the accusation of a single
witness and the wrongdoing is
not established, the elders will
leave matters in Jehovah's hands.
(Deut.19:15-17; 1 Tim 5:19, 24,
25; w95 11/1 pp. 28-29) The
investigating elders should
compose a record, sign it, put it
in a sealed envelope, and place it
in the congregations confidential
file. Additional evidence may later
come to light to establish
matters." Shepherd the Flock of
God pp.71,72
It is disappointing that a
procedure manual released as
late as 2010 would still indicate
arranging a meeting between
the child and the abuser, or to
dismiss non-action as leaving
"matters in Jehovah's hands."
Three Year Rule
Even more critical in legal actions
taken against the Watchtower
Society has been the Three Year
rule. This allowed for known
paedophiles to continue serving
as elders, provided any known
offences were committed at least
three years prior to confession.
The 1972 book Organization for
Kingdom-Preaching and Disciple-
Making stated:
"If a person was serving as an
elder or a ministerial servant
when he committed a serious
wrong, even though it was some
years ago, he bears a degree of
reprehensibility, for he continued
to serve in that position though
knowing that he had, for the
time at least, disqualified himself,
not being then free from
accusation. (1 Tim. 3:2, 10; Titus
1:6,7) He should have informed
the judicial committee that he did
not adhere to the requirements
and should have stepped down
from his position. In view of his
failure to do this at that time, he
would now be removed from
that position."
The term some years ago was
clarified shortly afterwards in the
Kingdom Ministry 1972 p.8 as a
time period of three years:
"What was meant by some years
ago on page 170, paragraph
two, in the Organization book?
This indicates more than a year
or two. It may be noted that it
did not say many years ago. So it
is not the exact number of years,
but more like two or three years.
It was not intended to have a
brother go back into the distant
past to bring up wrongs of
which he repented years ago
and that have evidently been
forgiven by Jehovah and are not
practiced now."

Apostate make we hear word joor.

I really don't undastnd what dis guyz problem I̲̅s? He has been so jobless and busy spreading apostacy about the witnesses. I only hope he still remebers how jehovah dealt with people like himm in ancient times. You better stay away from the worldwide organisation of jehovah on earth if you are yet to see the truth than going about being an apostate, does you no good instead you are only asking for jehovahs wrath.

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Witnesses with problems are
encouraged to go to the elders
and discouraged from going to
worldly experts for fear of being
influenced by the advice of
worldly experts that may
disagree with Watchtower
principles. Victims have regularly
been advised against contacting
police or specialists trained in
child abuse. Needless to say,
elders have no training in issues
such as marriage, addictions and
child abuse beyond limited
information provided by the
Watchtower Society. Watchtower
policy lags painfully behind child
abuse professionals.
An indication of how painfully
lacking the training of elders is in
the case of child abuse, the
environment for children to
discuss their abuse is generally in
a small kingdom hall room in
front of three male elders. Quite
often the child has been
expected to face the accused.
Even more inappropriately, the
official 1993 telememo form
used by elders asked the
question "How many elders felt
that the victim was somewhat at
fault or willingly participated in
the acts?"
Reproach on the Organisation's
Name
Fear of bringing reproach on
Jehovah's name has been used
to dissuade use of legal and
court systems.
"Loyalty to Jehovah God will also
keep us from doing anything
that would bring reproach upon
his name and Kingdom. For
example, two Christians once got
into such difficulty with each
other that they improperly
resorted to a worldly law court.
Certainly, the course of loyalty to
Jehovah God is to suffer personal
loss rather than bring reproach
upon Jehovah and his
organization." Watchtower 1996
Mar 15 p.15
The issue here is not the name of
Jehovah, but the reputation of
the Watchtower Organization.
People do not blame God when a
Witness molests a child. If blame
is attributed to anyone other
than the perpetrator, it is
directed towards the rules and
regulations of the Watchtower
Society.
When a serial offender was
found to have been a child
molester, elders kept information
discussed in judicial committees
confidential under ecclesiastical
privilege. This included not
reporting such matters to the
police. Witnesses have regularly
been discouraged from going to
the police for fear of bringing
reproach on Jehovahs name. In
legal cases Watchtower lawyers
have made the claim that the
Bible says elders must keep
information they know in
regards to crime confidential.
This mimics the Catholic ideas on
confessionals.
"Elders in the Christian
congregation are responsible to
handle violations of divine law,
such as stealing, murder, and
immorality. But God did not
require congregation elders to
enforce Caesars laws and codes.
Hence, Paul did not feel
compelled to turn over to Roman
authorities Onesimus, who was a
fugitive under Roman law.
(Philemon 10, 15) Of course, if
someone flagrantly violates
secular law, gaining the
reputation of being a
lawbreaker, he would not be a
good example and might even be
disfellowshipped." Watchtower
1986 Oct 1 p.31
Parents who have witnessed or
strongly suspected child abuse
against their child have been
warned by elders not to talk any
other parents in the
congregation, with a threat of
disfellowshipping for slander if
they do. This has been an
important factor that has
contributed to a child abuser
being able to go on and commit
more crimes against other
children.
In 1986, Congress passed the
Child Abuse Victims' Rights Act.
This allowed children a civil claim
in sexual abuse cases, and led to
increasing cases against the
Catholic Church. In apparent
response, a Confidential Letter
was sent to Elders in 1989,
stating elders contact, not the
police, but the Societies legal
department regarding any
accusations of child abuse. The
Elders letter went into detail
about keeping information
confidential, including the
contents of the letter. The 2012
court case involving Candace
Conti found the instructions of
this letter led to child abuse cases
being kept hidden.
A 1989 elder's form for child
abuse cases stated that if the
congregation is in a location
where it is compulsory to make a
report to the authorities, they
should make an anonymous call
from a phone booth. This is
highly ineffective, since police are
generally unable to follow up on
anonymous tips. Following is a
copy of the form taken from
court exhibits. This was restated
in the 1993 version of the form.
In 2002, it was finally accepted
that police could be contacted
directly. A Letter To All Bodies of
Elders in the United States,
February 15, 2002 stated that
elders were not to prevent
Witnesses reporting child abuse
to the police, which has been
added to the 2010 Elders manual.
"Child abuse is a crime. Never
suggest to anyone that they
should not report an allegation
of child abuse to the police or
other authorities. If you are
asked, make it clear that whether
to report the matter to the
authorities or not is a personal
decision for each individual to
make and that there are no
congregation sanctions for
either decision. Elders will not
criticize anyone who reports
such an allegation to the
authorities. If the victim wishes
to make a report, it is his or her
absolute right to do so. - Gal.
6:5." Shepherd the Flock of God
pp.131,132. Click here for the full
quote.
However, the congregation itself
is not protected, since it will not
be made aware of pedophiles
within the congregation by the
elders. Even when a person is
disfellowshipped for child abuse,
the only announcements will be
"[Name of person] is no longer
one ofJehovah's Witnesses" and
possibly later, "[Name of person]
is reinstated as one of Jehovah's
Witnesses."
Change in Policy
It was not until the late 1990s, as
a result of bad media publicity
globally, that Watchtower policy
changes on child abuse finally
started to come into effect.
Two children making a similar
accusation in a short period of
time can now be regarded as
two witnesses, as can
collaborative evidence such as
photos.

IN your own case as a PERSON WITH FEELINGS FOR MEN LIKE YOU,

YOU TRAVELLED TO SOUTH AFRICA AT CHURCH'S EXPENSE BUT AT THE HOTEL ROOM, YOU AND A LEADING PASTOR DID WHAT MADE GOD RAIN FIRE ON S/GOMMORAH

are you plain or hypocryte? so it is wrong for elders to hear first and give advice, can you see what happen in your own case below when you refuse to tell your dad who you are?

you prefer a friend's advice;baby123 who adviced you that you are normal, and then you became a wife to a leading pastor. you are a commissioned pastor right now, im i lying.

here is what you use your own hand to post on NL last year,

in piecemeal

BERNIMOORE: IN your own case as a PERSON WITH FEELINGS FOR MEN LIKE YOU,

YOU TRAVELLED TO SOUTH AFRICA AT CHURCH'S EXPENSE BUT AT THE HOTEL ROOM, YOU AND A LEADING PASTOR DID WHAT MADE GOD RAIN FIRE ON S/GOMMORAH

are you plain or hypocryte? so it is wrong for elders to hear first and give advice, can you see what happen in your own case below when you refuse to tell your dad who you are?

you prefer a friend's advice;baby123 who adviced you that you are normal, and then you became a wife to a leading pastor. you are a commissioned pastor right now, im i lying.

here is what you use your own hand to post on NL last year,

in piecemeal

LOL....calm down bro, calm down, i know it hurts that i have to slap the truth across your face like this. I know it hurts, but you gat to pick up the courage and face it like a man!

IF YOU WERE DISFELLOWSHIPPED BY THE ELDERS, THIS WILL GET YOU NOWHERE, DO ME ONE FAVOUR GET A LIFE #LIVEANDLETLIVE

satanist: IF YOU WERE DISFELLOWSHIPPED BY THE ELDERS, THIS WILL GET YOU NOWHERE, DO ME ONE FAVOUR GET A LIFE #LIVEANDLETLIVE

FYI, am not even a Jw neither was i a Jw. Ok. Please take note

Yooguyz:
LOL....calm down bro, calm down, i know it hurts that i have to slap the truth across your face like this. I know it hurts, but you gat to pick up the courage and face it like a man!

im not a jw,

your case as a gay is worst than that of the jw you quoted, and were disfellowshiped,

you keep your own sin in your church as you were an ordained pastor now, God have mercy, you can see the fallacy of churches imposing their wife and children on church, where is the holy spirit for God sake.

youguys, sorry, how do you feel when you mount the pulpit?


the worst was that at churchs expence, tithe, offerings, firstfruits donations, you went out there to south africa on church mission with assistant pastor and you shamefully engage in illicit affair men to men

you are the wife, abi?

he who seeks equity must come out with clean hands

your hands are soiled, for the fact that you do all this with the churchs money, you are inviting curse on your head.[/size]

below is what you wrote by yourself;

Yooguyz:

My dad's assistant is my first and only gay lover it all started when we went for a crusade in south africa organized by our church.we(the evangelistic team) whic he's part off,used to stay in a hotel booked by the churches hosting us.so i was paired with his assistant to stay in the same room.on the second nite after the crusade dat day, i noticed he was talking about sex n sex..during the middle of the nite he was touching..strangely i was liking it and.,BAM!! Dat was it! It even continued after the crusade


my question is that, do you appologise to your fathers church?

Yooguyz:
LOL....calm down bro, calm down, i know it hurts that i have to slap the truth across your face like this. I know it hurts, but you gat to pick up the courage and face it like a man!

what the GB says is just the truth. and they are flexible while sticking to the sciptural bound. what else will they do? the bible has already stated that a matter is established by two witnesses. they have also giving the parents the go ahead order to report to the police if they wish if no two witnesses appeared. It is also logical they made it an individual decision cos the bible's boundary stopped at two witnesses, so anything against, the accuser will bear the consequent from Jah not the GB.

I want to state that mentioning the crime the person commited is good, but is not necessary for a TRUE JW.

because when anybody is disfellowshipped, no one is expected to communicate, greet or even eat with such a person unless you are not a true JW. so when you maintain this scriptural direction, you will not be in danger.

JMAN05:

what the GB says is just the truth. and they are flexible while sticking to the sciptural bound. what else will they do? the bible has already stated that a matter is established by two witnesses. they have also giving the parents the go ahead order to report to the police if they wish if no two witnesses appeared. It is also logical they made it an individual decision cos the bible's boundary stopped at two witnesses, so anything against, the accuser will bear the consequent from Jah not the GB.

I want to state that mentioning the crime the person commited is good, but is not necessary for a TRUE JW.

because when anybody is disfellowshipped, no one is expected to communicate, greet or even eat with such a person unless you are not a true JW. so when you maintain this scriptural direction, you will not be in danger.

but it will interest you that the op, a gay with another pastor in their church still give sermon on the pulpit, yet practicing intimate relations using church fund, see his post on that above, captured

BERNIMOORE:


but it will interest you that the op, a gay with another pastor in their church still give sermon on the pulpit, yet practicing intimate relations using church fund, see his post on that above, captured

WHAT!!!!!!!!! and he still has mouth to talk? a pastor too? even have the courage to vomit that crime on NL?

Where has our consciences gone! May God have mercy for this generation!

BERNIMOORE:


but it will interest you that the op, a gay with another pastor in their church still give sermon on the pulpit, yet practicing intimate relations using church fund, see his post on that above, captured

WHAT!!!!!!!!! and he still has mouth to talk? a pastor too? even have the courage to vomit that crime on NL?

Where has our consciences gone to? May God have mercy for this generation!

@BARRISTERS/BALTIMORE,
Na wah oh! You no dey change pattern? The same type of trolling, the same abusive comments that earned you a ban you are still using eh! Do you know you can again? Many of the information you posted about me are misleading and VERY INCORRECT and you know it. The same thing that earned you a ban, you are still doing it. Remember you are GUILTY OF BREAKING RULE 2. Oya start to beg me before i report you, i give you from now till tommorow morning.

BTW how is Striktlymi doing?

Yooguyz: @BARRISTERS/BALTIMORE,
Na wah oh! You no dey change pattern? The same type of trolling, the same abusive comments that earned you a ban you are still using eh! Do you know you can again? Many of the information you posted about me are misleading and you know it. The same thing that earned you a ban, you are still doing it. Remember you are GUILTY OF BREAKING RULE 2. Oya start to beg me before i report you, i give you from now till tommorow morning.

BTW how is Striktlymi doing?

i have never had any ban on NL, for your info, i need confirmation from NL grooup now, you did you not deny them, manmustwac warned you severaly, i posted his warnings, yet you break the rules,

pls report ban now, but if it fail you cant be taken seriously BALTIMORE really, im bernimoore not barrister kindly do that right now.

you claim to be a Gay in your own post on On Nov 26, 2012! true or false, you posted it yourself, how is that a bully when you are not sleeping or posted on your behalf,

here is rule 3, that you break, with no proof!

3. Don't advocate or encourage violent actions against any person, tribe, race, or group of people.

one of the the moderators should be with some posts of your warnings by now so dont panic

baby_123 how is he? your adviser

BERNIMOORE:

im not a jw,

your case as a gay is worst than that of the jw you quoted, and were disfellowshiped,

you keep your own sin in your church as you were an ordained pastor now, God have mercy, you can see the fallacy of churches imposing their wife and children on church, where is the holy spirit for God sake.

youguys, sorry, how do you feel when you mount the pulpit?


the worst was that at churchs expence, tithe, offerings, firstfruits donations, you went out there to south africa on church mission with assistant pastor and you shamefully engage in illicit affair men to men

you are the wife, abi?

he who seeks equity must come out with clean hands

your hands are soiled, for the fact that you do all this with the churchs money, you are inviting curse on your head.[/size]

below is what you wrote by yourself;

Yooguyz:

My dad's assistant is my first and only gay lover it all started when we went for a crusade in south africa organized by our church.we(the evangelistic team) whic he's part off,used to stay in a hotel booked by the churches hosting us.so i was paired with his assistant to stay in the same room.on the second nite after the crusade dat day, i noticed he was talking about sex n sex..during the middle of the nite he was touching..strangely i was liking it and.,BAM!! Dat was it! It even continued after the crusade


my question is that, do you appologise to your fathers church?

im still surprised that someone with your reputation can be leading a church