Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / NewStats: 3,195,381 members, 7,958,048 topics. Date: Wednesday, 25 September 2024 at 08:05 AM |
Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / To Tithe Or Not To Tithe - Jesus Spoke About Tithing In The New Testament (1062 Views)
To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. / Dr Martin Luther King Jr The False Prophet God Spoke About Specifically / To Tithe or Not to Tithe? (2) (3) (4)
To Tithe Or Not To Tithe - Jesus Spoke About Tithing In The New Testament by Nobody: 5:58am On Sep 09, 2013 |
To those who have been asking about tithes, it is not just required in the old testament. Here, Jesus was speaking to the scribes and Pharisees. He was talking about them paying their tithes but neglecting other more important things. However, the last sentence gives us the answer to the question of new testament tithing, i.e. to tithe or not to tithe: "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, pretenders! For you give a tenth of your mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected and ommitted the weightier matters of the law - right and justice and mercy and fidelity. Those you ought to have done without neglecting the others." Matthew 23:23 I just thought I would share this and I'd like other Christians thoughts on it as well. |
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe - Jesus Spoke About Tithing In The New Testament by Nobody: 6:51am On Sep 09, 2013 |
DEUT 14 V 22-END GOODNEWS BIBLE NEW ENGLISH VERSION |
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe - Jesus Spoke About Tithing In The New Testament by Joagbaje(m): 7:18am On Sep 09, 2013 |
There's never an ending to tithing. It's n eternal principle , just like offering, prayer,worship,etc 1 Like |
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe - Jesus Spoke About Tithing In The New Testament by Candour(m): 7:49am On Sep 09, 2013 |
Joagbaje: Which tithing exactly are you talking about Joagbaje? 1.Abraham's voluntary giving of 10% of WAR SPOILS to Melchisedek(He refused to take the remaining 90% mind you) or 2.the Yearly tithing which Isreali families are meant to share and eat in a feast at Jerusalem(Deut 14:22-26) or 3.the tri-ennial tithing which isreal gave to the levites, widows, fatherless and strangers(Deut 14:28-29) and which the levite gave 10% of to the Priests(Num 18:26-30, Neh 10:37-38) Which Tithe are you exactly talking about my bro? Dont tell me you dont know there is a difference between the 3 forms of tithe i listed up there because that would be a very DISHONEST statement awaiting your reply sir 1 Like |
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe - Jesus Spoke About Tithing In The New Testament by Nobody: 8:31am On Sep 09, 2013 |
yeah Candour: |
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe - Jesus Spoke About Tithing In The New Testament by Zikkyy(m): 8:48am On Sep 09, 2013 |
Candour: Joagbaje was referring to the fraud/greed inspired pastoral version of tithing. The tithe that involves members dashing their pastor 10% of their income. Nothing to do with the with the biblical tithe practices 1 Like |
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe - Jesus Spoke About Tithing In The New Testament by Candour(m): 8:52am On Sep 09, 2013 |
Zikkyy: my bro, thats why i wanted him to clarify things for us. maybe i misunderstood him so he should pls clarify 1 Like |
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe - Jesus Spoke About Tithing In The New Testament by PastorKun(m): 9:55am On Sep 09, 2013 |
Joagbaje: Pastor Joe; always eager to protect his source of livelihood i no blame you sha country hard 1 Like |
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe - Jesus Spoke About Tithing In The New Testament by ojesoj(m): 10:51am On Sep 09, 2013 |
As far as many pastors are concerned, the most important scripture of all is not to be found in the word of Jesus. Neither is it even in the New Testament. That scripture says: “‘Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house, and try me now in this,’ says the LORD of hosts, ‘If I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you such blessing that there will not be room enough to receive it.’” (Malachi 3:10). This scripture is drummed repeatedly into Christians on Sundays. However, the only time Jesus mentioned tithing in scripture, he pointed out that it was not a weighty matter of the law. (Matthew 23:23). Hebrews says people only receive tithes “according to the law.” (Hebrews 7:5). It then insists tithing (and everything else under the law) has been annulled: “The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless.” (Hebrews 7:18-19). Nevertheless, mercenary pastors continue to insist on the payment of tithes. Latter-day Pharisees Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for keeping part instead of the whole law. (Matthew 23:23). That is what tithe-collecting pastors do today. If we insist our congregants must pay tithes, we must also insist that they keep the rest of the law. James says: “Whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.” (James 2:10). Therefore, if we insist on tithing, we should also refrain from eating pork. We should stone adulterers, execute homosexuals, kill Sabbath violators and restore blood-sacrifices. Tithe-collecting pastors counter this by maintaining the payment of tithes pre-dated the law. Here Abraham is cited as the cardinal example of someone who paid tithes before the promulgation of the Law of Moses, as did Jacob, his grandson. However, such arguments are disingenuous. Before the law, tithing was at best an example but not a commandment. Moreover, pastors fail to mention that Abraham only tithed once in his lifetime. When he did, he did not even tithe his own money: he tithed the spoils of war. He gave ten percent of the plunder he took when he rescued Lot to Melchisedec, king of Salem. But then he did not even keep the rest but returned it (all ninety percent) to the king of Sodom. For his part, Jacob also tithed only once. He did this in a “let’s make a deal” arrangement he offered to God: “Jacob made a vow, saying, ‘If God will be with me, and keep me in this way that I am going, and give me bread to eat and clothing to put on, so that I come back to my father’s house in peace, then the LORD shall be my God. And this stone which I have set as a pillar shall be God’s house, and of all that you give me I will surely give a tenth to you.’” (Genesis 28:20-22). This kind of deal about accepting God only under certain self-serving conditions should certainly not be a term of reference for any serious believer. Lies upon lies The first lie pastors tell Christians is what some have referred to as “the eleventh commandment:” “Thou shalt pay thy tithes to thy local church.” But the bible says no such thing. The storehouse of Malachi was not a church. It was a place where food was kept. Pastors hide from church-members the fact that money was not acceptable as tithe. The tithe was a tenth of the seed and fruit of the land and of the animals which ate of the land. (Leviticus 27:30-32). That is why God says: “Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be FOOD in my house.” (Malachi 3:10). He does not say “that there may be MONEY in my house.” The food was used to feed the Levites, the poor, widows, orphans and strangers. Pastors also conveniently fail to teach the biblical tithe. The principles of tithing were not laid down by Malachi. They were laid down by Moses. The study of Moses’ guidelines quickly reveals that the biblical tithe has no application whatsoever to Christians and is mischievously violated by tithe-collecting pastors today. According to the Law of Moses, the tithe was divided into three allocations. The first year, it was given to the Levite. The second year, it was given to widows, orphans and the poor. The third year, it was eaten in the company of the faithful before the Lord as thanksgiving for his faithfulness. (Deuteronomy 14:22-28). In the seventh year, there was no planting and no reaping and therefore no tithing. So the next time your pastor asks you to pay tithe, ask him about the seventh-year reprieve. Also ask him if you can give your tithe to the orphanage, or bring it as food items to be eaten in church. Believe me; he will not agree with you because it is your money he is after. Inapplicability of tithes Tithing was only applicable to Jews and to the land of Israel. When large populations of Jews lived in Babylon, Ammon, Moab, Egypt, and Syria, these lands became tithe-able lands. However, tithes were not acceptable from strictly Gentile lands. So you need to ask your pastor how come he is collecting tithes in Nigeria. Servants or slaves who worked on the land did not tithe because the land did not belong to them. Since only agricultural and animal resources were included, a fisherman gave no tithe of his fisheries. Neither did a miner or a carpenter pay tithes, nor anyone from the various professional occupations. So if you are not a farmer or a keeper of livestock, tell your 419 pastor tithing is biblically inapplicable to you. Moreover, the only people authorised to receive tithes were the Levites. (Hebrews 7:5). So if your Pastor is a “tithe-collector,” ask him if he happens to be a Jew. Remind him that, even though a Jew, Jesus could not receive the tithe because he was not from the tribe of Levi but from that of Judah. The trick, of course, is for pastors today to claim we are “Levites.” If your pastor is one such dissembler, ask him if he lives as a Levite. Remind him that Levites had no land and did not have private property. Ask him also how he knows he is from the tribe of Levi, which happens to be one of the lost tribes of Israel. Point out to him that even Jewish rabbis don’t claim to be Levites today because all Jewish genealogical records were lost with the destruction of the Temple in AD 70, ensuring that it is no longer possible to ascertain the true identity of Levites. Therefore, if Jews no longer tithe because the Levites are a lost tribe, how can Christian pastors collect tithes when we are not even Jewish, how much more Levites? If Jewish rabbis, whose terms of reference remain the Old Testament no longer collect tithes, then pastors who insist Christians are under a New Testament have no business doing so. The conclusion then is inescapable. Every pastor who collects tithes is nothing but “a thief and a robber.” (John 10:1). By Femi Aribisala 3 Likes |
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe - Jesus Spoke About Tithing In The New Testament by Seewealth(m): 4:51pm On Sep 09, 2013 |
pash4naija: To those who have been asking about tithes, it is not just required in the old testament. Here, Jesus was speaking to the scribes and Pharisees. He was talking about them paying their tithes but neglecting other more important things. However, the last sentence gives us the answer to the question of new testament tithing, i.e. to tithe or not to tithe: mind you Jesus was talking to the scribes and pharisees, who were still under the law. he was not talking to christians. read Heb |
(1) (Reply)
Former ‘satanic Drag Queen’ Turns To Love Of Christ, Receives Hate From Homosexu / . / The Jw.org Website
(Go Up)
Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 53 |