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Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by tbaba1234: 7:31pm On Sep 25, 2013
Officials Claim Tunisian Women are Waging a 'Sexual Jihad' in Syria, But What's the Real Story?

By now you have probably already heard of the harem of Tunisian sex-warrior slaves heading to Syria in order to give up their young bodies to the appetites of deprived rebels to fulfill jihad al-Nikkah — “Sexual Jihad" — and are coming back to the country with bellies full of Jihadi babies. Unfortunately for what seems to be that blind spot people have when it comes to stories on Muslims and sex, there doesn’t seem to be any evidence of Tunisian female warriors going to fight a holy sex war.

Sucks, I know.

Despite the lack of clear evidence of a sex war pandemic, this hasn’t stopped news media outlets all over the world from grabbing, expanding, and running with this story.

In December, Lebanese news channel Al Jadeed reported that hardline and popular Salafi scholar Shaykh Mohamad Al Arefe, a loud and inciting opponent of the Syrian regime, had issued a fatwa (a non-binding religious opinion) allowing the gang rape of non-Sunni Syrian women by rebels. Not only did the scholar vehemently deny expressing any such opinion, on Twitter and in later sermons (both links in Arabic), but the story was debunked by the Electronic Intifada’s Ali Abunimah.

On March 27, 2012, the Pan-Arab news site Al Hayat, published a piece discussing the apparent crisis of young Tunisian girls and what was being referred to as “Sexual Jihad.” It claimed that the impetus behind this was another fatwa from Al Arefe, in which he urged young women to go in engage in the so-called sexual Jihad by offering themselves to the rebels. There was, however, no proof of this fatwa and those close to Al Arefe also thoroughly denied the cleric had ever made such a ridiculous statement.

According to the report, 13 young Tunisian girls had gone missing, believed to be in Syria engaging in the sexual Jihad. The story gained traction in Arabic social media circles when in a video, parents of one of the girls claimed that their 17-year old daughter, who had since returned home, had been brainwashed by friends with Salafi Jihadi leanings who told her to go to Syria to temporarily marry and have sex with rebels. Iranian news station Al-Alam also released a video claiming to be interviewing one such girl (Arabic).

While Tunisia's Minister of Religious Affairs Noureddine El-Khadimi condemned such religious opinions, there seemed to be no actual evidence of anyone — Al Arefe or any other scholar — issuing such a decree.

In July, sexual Jihad popped up again in headlines when following protests by Muslim Brotherhood supporters in Rabaa, reports emerged — based on a questionable Facebook post — that female Brotherhood supporters were preparing themselves for sexual Jihad. Saudi-owned Al Arabiya, which supported the crackdown on Brotherhood supporters, was one of the first to report on the issue.

Sexual Jihad, however, didn’t go viral until last week when AFP and Al Arabiya were amongst the first to report that that in an address to the National Assembly last Thursday, Tunisian Interior Minister Lotfi ben Jouddou mentioned how young Tunisian women were being lured into a sexual Jihad in Syria, having sex with “20, 30, 100” rebels and were returning to Tunisia pregnant.

The story, like any story involving Muslims and sexy time, quickly caught on fire in the American press. The Atlantic (“Tunisian Teens Are Helping Out Syrian Rebels with ‘Sexual Jihad’”), TIME (“Tunisian Women Go On ‘Sex Jihad’ to Syria, Minister Says”), Business Insider (“Tunisian Girls are Coming Home Pregnant After Performing ‘Sexual Jihad’ in Syria”), The Global Post (“Tunisian Women on ‘Sexual Jihad’ Return Home Pregnant’: Minister”), Jezebel (“Tunisian Minister Warns of Women Going to Syria on ‘Sex Jihad’”), Huffington Post (“‘Sexual Jihad’ in Syria Cause Rise in Pregnancy among Tunisian Women”) and The Daily Beast (“Syria’s ‘Sex Jihad’”) are amongst just few of the names of the media outlets that covered the story with great zeal and over-played images that would make the late great Edward Said convulse from horror and despair in his grave.

Despite the story having gained traction of the viral variety, and despite the concerns and facts expressed by Tunisian officials, there seems to be actually very little evidence to suggest that the so-called sexual Jihad is actually a thing (and Jihad al-Nikkah is not a thing in Islamic jurisprudence).

The story of Tunisian women returning from waging sex on holy warriors (thanks RT) in Syria impregnated with future warrior babies itself is, at best, just incredibly questionable and many, from the onset of the story’s break into the English press, expressed deep skepticism. In a civil war that has had many ideological fronts, the most pernicious in is salience has perhaps been that of information. Syria has been a cluster of misinformation, misattribution and propaganda. O’Bagygate and Mint Press-gate are two of the most recent headlines to highlight the problems in not only reporting on the conflict but also how easily questionable, untrue, unverified information is gobbled up to serve ideological biases and wishful thinking.

Lauren Wolfe, director of Women Under Siege, emphasized in an email exchange that WUS, while unable to investigate on the ground, had looked into the rumors of a ‘Sexual Jihad’ sporadically over the past year and found “no hard proof of anything.”

She added:

“We've seen all kinds of horrors in this war though, so who's to say whether this is happening too. Then again, we've also seen massive amounts of propaganda tainting both sides in this conflict. So who's to say this isn't more of that?”

Ruth Michaelson, a freelance reporter who spent time in Syria in September 2012 and has written extensively about the role of sexual exploitation in the conflict, not only expressed concern, in an email, over the veracity and strangeness of the story, but also the several long-standing racist Orientalist tropes being pulled together into the story:

“The first thought that struck me on this is that now that Western media has exhausted the vein of "female refugees being…exploitatively married to men from the Gulf"-type stories, this is the new wave. It seems like there has to be a story in the Western media that plays into the dynamic of sexually rampant Arab men and submissive women, and this is the 2.0 version.

As with the 1.0 version it's not to say that there is not a problem. In the case of sexual exploitation of women in refugee camps, there are definitely problems happening, but the framing of the issues in the media made it sound like a pandemic of uncontrollable sexual violence. This was actively unhelpful- it made the…occurring problems more difficult to locate and discuss sensitively [and] it also was framed in the media in a way that directly disenfranchised and silenced Syrian women, portraying them as unending numbers of mute and stupid victims of sexually voracious men… “

The sex Jihad story playfully weaves together a history of fatwa misreporting (like the famous faux phallic fatwa), haphazard research and knee-jerk reactions (the Queendom of Saudi Arabia debacle, the Yemeni child bride hoax and the guy too handsome for, again, Saudi Arabia) and a weird, uneasy obsession with Muslims and sex. It especially feeds on the trope of Muslim women’s bodies as disposable for the unquenchable appetites of Muslim men. This in turn also obscures the agency of Muslim women in sexual relations — as ones to only ever serve males.

Michaelson additionally asks:

“Why would women coming into Syria prioritise sexual favours when there is a large body of evidence showing that there are female fighters on the ground?”

So what then can we make of the Interior Minister’s statements? Dismissing them is not an option, yet questioning them certainly is as ultimately we don’t have enough details about the story from the source itself, Ben Jeddou, whose information more than likely came from within the intelligence service in his ministry and not (hopefully) from online gossip sites. How did these young girls, some allegedly as young as thirteen, get out of Tunisia, into Syria, out of Syria (pregnant) and back into Tunisia with what seems to be ease? Why are only Tunisian women being sent to wage this sex war? Why not Pakistani? Chechen? Libyan? Who is escorting these women? Or are they traveling alone and if so how and where are they getting across the borders into Syria?

What we do know is that, according to the Tunisian government, at least thirteen Tunisian girls are missing, several hundred Tunisian men have allegedly gone to join Syrian rebels, several thousand have been stopped from going to Syria and we know that sex (especially in terms of sexual violence and exploitation) is an inseparable part of any conflict and war. Yet the near exclusiveness of only Tunisian young girls being groomed for a holy sex war brigade (perhaps unwittingly building on the stereotype of North African women amongst Gulf/Levantine Arabs), the lack of evidence and corroborating reports from journalists, aid workers and activists on the ground in Syria, false fatwas and the history of delegitimizing groups, ideas and movements through accusations (whether these are true or not is irrelevant) of ‘sexual deviance’ (i.e. Here, here and here) call into question how this story is being used by the Tunisian government itself. After all, it has a strong interest in countering the growth of Salafist ideas and sympathies within its own borders.

When it comes to stories that involve Muslims and sex, international news media are quick to publish and gloat about the varying ways in which Muslims (by extension generally any and all brown folks) are so incredibly sexually repressed that they resort to sexual deviance, which is always at the expense of their women. The words sex and Jihad are two SEO-happy terms that elicit strong emotional responses and outrage as well as clicks and news-makers are well aware of this. Instead of putting in some time to verify information or, at the very least, offer cautionary language most, if not all, American news media reported the sexual Jihad story as the hard (no pun intended), cold, exploitative truth. As I’ve written elsewhere:

“Predisposed ideas and conceptions of Muslims and of gender relations in the Muslim world and Muslim countries make it easy for sloppy and reactionary journalism to gain momentum. They love to publish it, and we love to read it. There’s something wrong with this equation, but we still continue to gobble it up every time it’s thrown in our collectively gawking face.”

And lo, we gawk on.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/65041/officials-claim-tunisian-women-are-waging-a-sexual-jihad-in-syria-but-what-s-the-real-story

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Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by LagosShia: 10:15pm On Sep 25, 2013
Women fleeing Tunisia to wage ‘sex jihad’ in Syria: interior minister

Muslim women have been fleeing Tunisia in droves to wage “sex jihad” in Syria by sleeping with multiple Islamist militants as a legitimate form of holy war, Interior Minister Lotfi ben Jeddou told members of the National Constituent Assembly on Thursday.

“They have sexual relations with 20, 30, 100” militants, he said, according to Agence France-Presse. “After the sexual liaisons they have there in the name of ‘jihad al-nikah’ — (sexual holy war, in Arabic) — they come home pregnant.”

According to AFP, jihad al-nikah describes a phenomenon of women traveling to the battlefield to provide sex for rebel fighters.

Ben Jeddou didn’t give statistics on how many women are fleeing the country or how many come back pregnant with jihadists’ children, though media reports have said hundreds have done so, AFP said.

Hundreds of Tunisian men have also joined the fight against President Bashar al-Assad.

Media reports say thousands of people have fled the country in the past 15 years to join jihadists across the world in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria, AFP said.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/25/women-fleeing-tunisia-wage-sex-jihad-syria-interio/
Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by LagosShia: 10:17pm On Sep 25, 2013
Tunisian Interior Ministry: Sex jihad to Syria halted

September 25, 2013 12:18 AM

By Nadia Massih
The Daily Star

[img]http://www.dailystar.com.lb/dailystar/Pictures/2013/09/24/211759_mainimg.jpg[/img]
Tunisian Interior Minister Lotfi Ben Jeddou (L), Justice Minister Nadhir Ben Ammou (C) and Minister of Human Rights and Transitional Justice Samir Dilou (R) attend a constituent assembly meeting on September 19, 2013 to discuss security issues following the assassination of an opposition leader late July. (AFP PHOTO / FETHI BELAID)



BEIRUT: The Tunisian Interior Ministry said the practice of women traveling to Syria for sex jihad had now been completely halted, following controversial accusations last week that the government was “doing nothing” to tackle the phenomenon.

An Interior Ministry spokesman told The Daily Star Tuesday that “trafficking networks” to the war-torn country had been shut down and dozens arrested over the issue in the five days since the interior minister made the comments.

The statement comes in the wake of a media storm over the role of so-called “jihad al-nikah,” where women have extramarital sex with multiple partners to advance the goals of holy war – a permissible practice according to some extremist Islamist doctrine.

Tunisia’s Interior Minister Lotfi Ben Jeddou told Parliament last Thursday that Tunisian women were engaging in such activities with rebels who are engaged in a prolonged struggle to oust President Bashar Assad from power in Syria.

“They have sexual relations with 20, 30, 100 militants and they come back bearing the fruits of sexual contact in the name of sex jihad,” he said at the time. “We are silent, doing nothing and standing idle.”

However, speaking to The Daily Star, the minister’s spokesman Mohammad Ali al-Aroui said after a major crackdown at the country’s borders, the movement of women looking to undertake sex jihad had completely halted.

“This trend has now totally stopped thanks to the government efforts in reinforcing the checkups of people who wish to leave Tunisia by improving both our land and air border controls,” he said by phone, emphasizing that only “tens” of women had taken up the cause.

He added that “trafficking networks” responsible for organizing the journey to Syria’s border with Turkey had been “disbanded” and that 82 smugglers had been arrested.

Some traffickers had been operating in exchange for money, he said, while others were motivated by jihadist ideology.

The phenomenon of jihad al-nikah appeared to gain traction in Tunisia following a fatwa, or religious edict, issued by a Saudi cleric in March.

Sheikh Mohammad al-Arifi had called on girls aged 14 and up to take up the cause of sex jihad in Syria through temporary marriage contracts and provide support to rebel forces. He has since retracted the comments, according to pan-Arab Al-Hayat newspaper.

Aroui, the government spokesman, was adamant that the women journeying to Syria were doing so of their own free will.

“No one can leave Tunisia forcefully. Those girls chose to leave for jihadist ideology, like it happens everywhere else,” he said.

However, speaking to the media in April, the country’s former grand mufti said the women were prostitutes.

“For jihad in Syria, they are now pushing young girls to go there. Thirteen have been sent for intercourse marriages ... What is this? This is called prostitution. It is moral educational corruption.”

Aroui would not be drawn on the precise route the women took, but said that Libya was a key transit point for jihadists – both men and women – going to Syria.

The phenomenon of sex jihad is also a problem in Iraq, according to a governor in Diyala province.

“Intelligence cells commissioned with monitoring Al-Qaeda’s activities within Diyala’s borders have reported that the highly ranked officials in the organization urged the widows of the commanders and members to abide by the sexual jihad fatwa,” Oudai al-Khadran said last month.

A version of this article appeared in the print edition of The Daily Star on September 25, 2013, on page 8.

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Sep-25/232467-tunisian-interior-ministry-sex-jihad-to-syria-halted.ashx
Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by LagosShia: 10:19pm On Sep 25, 2013
https://www.nairaland.com/1447346/tunisian-women-go-sex-jihad#18271891
LagosShia: I have opened more than one thread (if I recall correctly) about this so called "$exual jihad" exploiting women.each time my thread was closed or hidden because I was exposing the fatwas of the Wahhabi pseudo-scholars who are promoting sectarian terrorism in Syria against alawites,shia,christians and even against their very own sunnis they claim as their fellows.now that the women are returning to their countries carrying the product of abomination, let us see how anyone can deny anything here.the news came out that Al-Arifi was the one who first issued a fatwa permitting "$exual jihad" or for females to offer themselves as $ex servants to terrorists fighting the Syrian government.of course this is no form of marriage and it is only permitted by the pseudo-scholars in order to satisfy the fighters in the battlefield who randomly sleep with these women from distant lands.the girls don't know the owners of their pregnancies.more or less this is an "incentive" in the worldly sense similar to the so called "72 virgins" reward in the hereafter.as the saying goes: truth is like pregnancy;you cant hide it.now we can say pregnancy has revealed the truth.

and lest anyone doubt the news,here is a source of the story from Saudi based/owned al-Arabiya tv:

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/variety/2013/09/20/Tunisia-says-sexual-jihadist-girls-returned-home-from-Syria-pregnant.html


thread hidden:
https://www.nairaland.com/1248283/salafi-cleric-permits-ra.pe-non-sunni#15101525

tbaba and his Wahhabi bandwagon denied the report that fatwas were issued to permit:
https://www.nairaland.com/1123572/need-advice-muslim-brothers-sister/1#13628851

Wikipedia on the so called "$ex jihad" :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_Jihad
Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by LagosShia: 10:32pm On Sep 25, 2013
the OP's article is casting doubt on the report by the interior minister of Tunisia.why should I consider the minister a liar for exposing a reality in his own country,but I have to believe one salafist/Wahhabi sympathizer writing an article and beating around the bush? like they say there is no smoke without fire.had the interior minister being a Shia,christian or jew making such a claim,then we can say he is biased.but that is not the case.denial cannot cover shameful reality.i really wonder (with no evidence,but only analysis and empty words) how can one conclude so decisively and confidently that the report is an hoax-not in fact claiming there is no evidence,but saying it is an hoax.

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Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by maclatunji: 10:45pm On Sep 25, 2013
^But wait, is it that the rebels ran out of Syrian women or Tunisian girls have something that other women don't?

Otherwise, the story hardly make sense. By the way, a war zone is now a place for sex tourism? There is something wrong somewhere.
Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by LagosShia: 10:56pm On Sep 25, 2013
maclatunji: ^But wait, is it that the rebels ran out of Syrian women or Tunisian girls have something that other women don't?

Otherwise, the story hardly make sense. By the way, a war zone is now a place for sex tourism? There is something wrong somewhere.

an estimate puts it that half of those referred to as "rebels" (who are in fact terrorists) are foreign salafist/wahhabi "jihadists" sent into syria by the western governments or their puppet allies like turkey,qatar and Saudi Arabia.they are not Syrians.before the conflict in Syria, salafism/wahhabism was hardly visible in Syria or among syrians.syrians are educated and were having a good living standard.you must really be thinking Syrians are like afghanis who were under the Taliban for Syrian women to give themselves to terrorists from Chechnya,somalia,yemen,pakistan,saudi Arabia,etc.what is taking both the foreign men and women into Syria is fanaticism that "fatwas" from misguided pseudo-scholars propagate.
Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by maclatunji: 11:48pm On Sep 25, 2013
LagosShia:

an estimate puts it that half of those referred to as "rebels" (who are in fact terrorists) are foreign salafist/wahhabi "jihadists" sent into syria by the western governments or their puppet allies like turkey,qatar and Saudi Arabia.they are not Syrians.before the conflict in Syria, salafism/wahhabism was hardly visible in Syria or among syrians.syrians are educated and were having a good living standard.you must really be thinking Syrians are like afghanis who were under the Taliban for Syrian women to give themselves to terrorists from Chechnya,somalia,yemen,pakistan,saudi Arabia,etc.what is taking both the foreign men and women into Syria is fanaticism that "fatwas" from misguided pseudo-scholars propagate.

But this is a war and if the rebels are as bad as you claim, taking advantage of Syrian women won't be a big deal to them. The Tunisian girls' angle still doesn't make sense.

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Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by LagosShia: 9:31am On Sep 26, 2013
maclatunji:

But this is a war and if the rebels are as bad as you claim, taking advantage of Syrian women won't be a big deal to them. The Tunisian girls' angle still doesn't make sense.

very true,and there was a fatwa by a salafist cleric permitting the ra.pe of Syrian alawite,christian and shia women,and possibly even sunni women who side with the regime-i.e. mainly women belonging to communities that support the Syrian president.

and I don't think this is all about the rebels/terrorists.it is also about "jihad" and brainwashing.those girls volunteering with their bodies see their mission as part of the "jihad" the men are waging.we can equally say there are Syrians opposed to the regime,so why send in foreign fighters to commit massacres,sectarian terror and crimes against humanity? it is all about going to wage what these hired foreigners see as their religious duty based on their salafist/Wahhabi ideology to attain the "pleasure of Allah" and get rewarded with paradise and 72 virgins.there are therefore different factors that make the scenario possible to be sought after.
Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by Paschal007: 10:02am On Sep 26, 2013
So which one is a hoax now? grin
Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by LagosShia: 10:04am On Sep 26, 2013
Paschal007: So which one is a hoax now? grin

tbaba's false claim/title-which resulted from his apparent denial due to embarrassment.
Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by maclatunji: 10:32am On Sep 26, 2013
LagosShia:

very true,and there was a fatwa by a salafist cleric permitting the ra.pe of Syrian alawite,christian and shia women,and possibly even sunni women who side with the regime-i.e. mainly women belonging to communities that support the Syrian president.

and I don't think this is all about the rebels/terrorists.it is also about "jihad" and brainwashing.those girls volunteering with their bodies see their mission as part of the "jihad" the men are waging.we can equally say there are Syrians opposed to the regime,so why send in foreign fighters to commit massacres,sectarian terror and crimes against humanity? it is all about going to wage what these hired foreigners see as their religious duty based on their salafist/Wahhabi ideology to attain the "pleasure of Allah" and get rewarded with paradise and 72 virgins.there are therefore different factors that make the scenario possible to be sought after.

The scenario seems far-fetched. How much of sex can you have when bullets and rockets are being fired your way? If there were allegations of wild scale rape, those can be investigated and understood but these "sex jihad" stories seem far-fetched.

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Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by LagosShia: 10:44am On Sep 26, 2013
maclatunji:

The scenario seems far-fetched. How much of sex can you have when bullets and rockets are being fired your way? If there were allegations of wild scale rape, those can be investigated and understood but these "sex jihad" stories seem far-fetched.

i think you are over simplifying the case.there are areas in Syria under rebel/terrorist control.they have virtually turned those areas into "emirates"-governed by an "emir".of course "emir" in this situation does not mean "royalty" but a title given to a chief fighter/governor.i was reading an article which stated that there are over 100,000 foreign fighters in Syria.the idea that rockets and bullets are flying in all directions and there is no time for $ex is generalization.even if you have a point,you cannot write off the topic that "sex jihad" is taking place based on the premise that war is taking place.this topic can be confirmed based on evidence of who the females that went to Syria are and how many returned to Tunisia pregnant.and i still fail to see how the interior minister of Tunisia is lying about his own citizens falling victims to immorality because there is ongoing war in Syria,which is not a picnic for $ex tourism.those volunteering don't see it as "tourism" but "jihad".you are using a different angle to view the matter to write it off.
Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by proo212(m): 6:31pm On Sep 26, 2013
Tbaba, you would love it to be a hoax but overwhelming evidence against your wishes for it to be a hoax. If the Tunisian minister can bring it up and discuss it in parliament and arabic media are picking up on it...then it must be true.

This is not good....You cannot wish this one away
Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by vedaxcool(m): 8:14am On Sep 27, 2013
proo212: Tbaba, you would love it to be a hoax but overwhelming evidence against your wishes for it to be a hoax. If the Tunisian minister can bring it up and discuss it in parliament and arabic media are picking up on it...then it must be true.

This is not good....You cannot wish this one away
HOAX 1: Arefe never issued any FATWA permitting prostitution in the name of war or religion! the article says that much

HOAX 2: Because of 1, where did the Tunisian girls find such a FATWA to follow?

I won't blame u if you don't believe, your historical antecedents are enough for us to know how you would think, the fact remain that simply because only 13 girls are allegded to have been involved as having gone to Syria for such shows that the story has little credence to its name and even if these 13 girls participated in such act it has little to do with Islam as there is no scholar who have issued such a verdict! Interestingly Christians are known to have joined the FSA, I am waiting for them to be branded terrorists like their muslim counter-parts! www.loonwatch.com/2013/09/are-they-terrorists-christian-free-syrian-army-brigade-undermines-sectarian-dynamic-in-syria/
Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by Nobody: 10:29am On Sep 27, 2013
this is a tragedy. this is no hoax but real and below is my skype dialogue just now with a woman friend in tunisia;



[9/26/2013 7:13:42 AM] me: salaam. sor. tell me how true is the sex-jihad from tunisia to syria everyone is talking about? is this true or just a propaganda?

i can not believe that a battle field or war zone is the place women will travel to, leave peaceful environment and go there for illegal sex. its something they talk about here and i am wondering if you have an opinion about its reality?
[9/26/2013 7:13:58 AM] me: i hope you are well. thanks.
[9/26/2013 7:14:05 AM] me: salaamualaykum
[5:08:06 AM] SOR: they kidnap the woman here they are so yung and they talk about god, it s jihed nikah, they are not a real muslim
[5:08:14 AM] SOR: it s a propagande
[5:08:56 AM] SOR: tunisian woman are very smart but like everywher you find poor and stupid!
[5:09:11 AM] me: who kidnapped the women? this is sick.
[5:09:23 AM] SOR: here the muslim man
[5:09:50 AM] SOR: in out side the city in montain
[5:10:02 AM] SOR: close to the desert
[5:10:03 AM] me: what? muslim? thats not muslim. thats pure shayatin
[5:10:32 AM] me: very shameful.
[5:10:45 AM] SOR: yes they are , in libya some of them kill old and yung woman becaus ethey don't dress good
[5:11:16 AM] me: terrible people
[5:11:25 AM] me: very shameful
Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by tbaba1234: 6:01pm On Sep 29, 2013
Are Young Women Really Racing to Syria's Front Lines to Wage Sex Jihad?
Posted By David Kenner


It's the story that launched 1,000 headlines. And it's not hard to see why: Tunisian Interior Minister Lotfi Ben Jeddou announced last week that Tunisian women were traveling to Syria to wage "sex jihad," where they were having sex with "20, 30, [or] 100" militants, before returning pregnant to Tunisia.

There's only one problem: There's no evidence it's true. The Tunisian Interior Ministry has so far failed to provide any further information on the phenomenon, and human rights activists and journalists have been unable to find any Tunisian woman who went to Syria for this purpose.

"Everything I've heard were very broad allegations that didn't really have all the features of a serious reporting about the case," said Amna Guellali, the Tunisia researcher for Human Rights Watch. "All I have is very sparse, very little information, and I think that's true for a lot of people working in the human rights community, in addition to reporters."

According to Guellali, the political context of the statement could shed light on why the interior minister chose to make this accusation now. The Tunisian government has been under fire for allegedly asking adult women for authorization from their husbands or fathers before they travel to certain countries in the Middle East -- Ben Jeddou was justifying any restrictions by saying that the government was attempting to prevent women from embarking on "sex jihad" in Syria. The interior minister has also made the fight against extremist Salafi groups a centerpiece of his term in office. Suggesting that Tunisian Salafi women are sleeping with dozens of Syrian rebels could be another way to discredit them.

Reports of Tunisian women engaging in "sex jihad" in Syria have ping-ponged around the media for months, though the interior minister's statement is the first time it has been given an official imprimatur. As journalist Sana Saeed catalogs, the first reports appeared on Lebanese new channel Al Jadeed and in the pan-Arab newspaper Al Hayat, which cited a fatwa by famed Saudi cleric Mohammed al-Arefe justifying the practice. Arefe, however, subsequently denied that he had done so, saying that "no sane person" would sanction such a thing.

Pro-Assad media have been only too eager to advance the idea of "sex jihad" as a way to tar their opponents. Syrian state television ran an interview with a 16-year-old girl named Rawan Kaddah in which she admitted to the practice. The Syrian opposition, however, denounced the program as staged and blasted the regime for exploiting children in such a way.

The only real evidence of women embarking on "sex jihad," comes not from Syria but from Tunisia's Chaambi Mountains, an area in the west of the country that has often been the site of clashes between the military and jihadists. [/b]Tunisian security forces there arrested several girls who were allegedly involved in the practice. Guellali said that she spoke to the mother of an 18-year-old female who was involved -- the mother said that a woman close to the Tunisian militant group Ansar al-Sharia got her daughter tangled up in a network of girls in the area.

[b]But the scope of the problem -- and whether it is related to Syria in any way -- remains a complete mystery.


"It's a bit disturbing that we have these kind of declarations and then there is no follow-up," said Guellali. "[The authorities] threw out this information that they had several cases of women coming back pregnant, but there is no tracking of the cases either by the Ministry of Women or the Ministry of Interior. And they won't give any further information."

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/09/26/sorry_the_tunisian_sex_jihad_is_a_fraud
Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by Nobody: 6:41pm On Sep 29, 2013
may Allah forgive everyone who unknowingly move this evil allegation forward. Amin.


i tried to rationalize and i couldn't believe it to be true. but when somebody who is on the ground as sor is tells me, i had no choice to say it is probable. i guess all of us can be fooled on a specific matter.

i truly cant see a real muslim doing this, man or woman and announcing it to the world as they have been accused.
Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by BetaThings: 5:55pm On Oct 01, 2013
RoyPCain: may Allah forgive everyone who unknowingly move this evil allegation forward. Amin.
i tried to rationalize and i couldn't believe it to be true. but when somebody who is on the ground as sor is tells me, i had no choice to say it is probable. i guess all of us can be fooled on a specific matter.

But the lady is saying they are being kidnapped.
(1) Are they rushing to Syria voluntarily or are they being kidnapped?
(2) Did Ariifi give that fatwa? Can he even give fatwa on something as clear as this? It is Zina, isn't it?
BTW were they Shias, it would not be a sin. It would be Mut'a

RoyPCain:
[5:08:06 AM] SOR: they kidnap the woman here they are so yung and they talk about god, it s jihed nikah, they are not a real muslim
[5:08:14 AM] SOR: it s a propagande
[5:08:56 AM] SOR: tunisian woman are very smart but like everywher you find poor and stupid!
[5:09:11 AM] me: who kidnapped the women? this is sick.
[5:09:23 AM] SOR: here the muslim man
[5:10:45 AM] SOR: yes they are , in libya some of them kill old and yung woman becaus ethey don't dress good
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In any case anyone can claim to be a muslim while using that to do evil. Anyone who is truly fighting jihad would not be committing zina. What if he is killed while engaged in the act?

As for the Interior Minister, I don't know what to say. But we should remember that Tunisia is a country that outlawed polygamy even before Nigeria got independence

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Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by LagosShia: 7:27pm On Oct 01, 2013
BetaThings:

BTW were they Shias, it would not be a sin. It would be Mut'a

For the first time you appear to be intelligent.my obsession with this topic is for the fact that Sunnis have come to say Mut'ah was a later prohibition in Islam,while today they send their daughters to Syria to perform $ex or-gies with terrorists on the battlefield in a foreign country.however it is very shameful of you to compare mut'ah with $ex or-gies/zina because by Sunni accounts mut'ah was at a time permitted in Islam and performed by the sahaba in the very days of the Prophet (sa).and according to Sunnis mut'ah was later prohibited by the Prophet (sa).the Shia dont believe the Prophet (sa) later prohibited Mut'ah.Shia believe it was Umar who prohibited it,as he also prohibited other acts of halal and permitted acts of haram (bid'ah) into the Sunni religion.therefore,the Shia can never consider this so called "jihad al-nikah" as "mut'ah" or anything close to it.mut'ah is an institution of marriage in Islam with one man and a woman,with all the rules of permanent marriage.mut'ah only differs in that it is temporary marriage limited by time,or will expire after the time agreed upon consensually and mutually by the couple.thereafter a woman observes iddah and the man becomes forbidden for her.mut'ah is not $ex or-gy whereby a girl (even if she is virgin;virgins dont do mut'ah but widows and divorced) can sleep with 100 terrorists to make God "pleased and get rewarded with paradise",as your "jihad al nikah" promotes.then your "jihadi sisters" return to tunisia pregnant with b****** children whose fathers are unknown among the tens of terrorists who performed the act with the female $ex "mujahidat". grin grin grin
Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by BetaThings: 4:37am On Oct 02, 2013
LagosShia:

For the first time you appear to be intelligent.my obsession with this topic is for the fact that Sunnis have come to say Mut'ah was a later prohibition in Islam,while today they send their daughters to Syria to perform $ex or-gies with terrorists on the battlefield in a foreign country.however it is very shameful of you to compare mut'ah with $ex or-gies/zina because by Sunni accounts mut'ah was at a time permitted in Islam and performed by the sahaba in the very days of the Prophet (sa).and according to Sunnis mut'ah was later prohibited by the Prophet (sa).the Shia dont believe the Prophet (sa) later prohibited Mut'ah.Shia believe it was Umar who prohibited it,as he also prohibited other acts of halal and permitted acts of haram (bid'ah) into the Sunni religion.therefore,the Shia can never consider this so called "jihad al-nikah" as "mut'ah" or anything close to it.mut'ah is an institution of marriage in Islam with one man and a woman,with all the rules of permanent marriage.mut'ah only differs in that it is temporary marriage limited by time,or will expire after the time agreed upon consensually and mutually by the couple.thereafter a woman observes iddah and the man becomes forbidden for her.mut'ah is not $ex or-gy whereby a girl (even if she is virgin;virgins dont do mut'ah but widows and divorced) can sleep with 100 terrorists to make God "pleased and get rewarded with paradise",as your "jihad al nikah" promotes.then your "jihadi sisters" return to tunisia pregnant with b****** children whose fathers are unknown among the tens of terrorists who performed the act with the female $ex "mujahidat". grin grin grin
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Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by vedaxcool(m): 8:07am On Oct 02, 2013
LagosShia:
.therefore,the Shia can never consider this so called "jihad al-nikah" as "mut'ah" or anything close to it.mut'ah is an institution of marriage in Islam with one man and a woman,with all the rules of permanent marriage.

Iranian authorities have allocated funds for prostitution houses under the guise of temporary marriage, Al-Osboa has reported. According to the report, the government of Iran has granted one-day, temporary marriages in certain neighbourhoods to “eliminate the problem of rape and sexual repression suffered by the Iranian youth.”

Under the terms of the license, it would be legal for any Iranian or foreigner frequenting a designated house to have sex with a girl if she agrees to temporarily marry him. In Iran, sex outside of marriage is a crime, in some cases punishable with up to one hundred lashes, or in the case of adultery, the death sentence. When a temporary marriage is instituted in Shia Islam, a man and woman contract a mut’a for a limited period of time and for a specific amount of money that the man must pay to the woman.

According to the official announcement in the cities of Qom and Mashad, the price per night is between twenty and fifty dollars, depending on whether the girl is a virgin or not in addition to her beauty. Critics, however, have said that[b] this is just an excuse to bypass restrictions on prostitution.[/b] According to the Kuwait Times, the “homes have become a breeding to the whims and desires of some officials and Shiite clerics.

http://www.albawaba.com/behind-news/iran-permits-brothels-through-temporary-marriages

Yes we wonder how many b****** these girls eventually conceived as a result of their whoring "marriage" < like every prostitute a child concieved from muta is non of the father's business>

Off course muta can be great if you engage it simulatneously with six women, I talking of the Iran police chief, oga tell them your story;

Reza Zarei is a former chief of Tehran Police in charge of moralisation and enforcement of Islamic values.

In [size=18pt]March 2008, Zarei was found with six naked {not wearing clothes} women in a house of prostitution in Tehran[/size].[1] Zarei was himself in charge of the so called "Public security plan" which was aimed at enforcing Islamic dress code and fight indecent behavior of youth in the Iranian capital.

Zarei was arrested and lost his post. However, in an interview broadcast by IRIB, the next commander of Tehran police denied all the accusations against Zarei.[2] On April 23, 2008, Zarei was transferred to a hospital after an attempted suicide.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reza_Zarei

shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked oma shey oooooo! grin grin grin grin Islam indeed!

If there exist any Tunisian girl who mistook prostitution for Jihad, then we can call such a girl naive, but that an entire country whose is supposedly guided by "Islamic" principles <a principle its' founder grand son condemns https://www.nairaland.com/1453545/hussein-khomeini-khomini-grandson-calls > can legalise prostitution in the name of religion then I think they should have their heads examined!

more on zorostrians legalised prostitution;

https://www.nairaland.com/828367/plea-muslim-sister

https://www.nairaland.com/828391/mutah-pimps
Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by tbaba1234: 3:47pm On Oct 09, 2013
The collapse of the sexual jihad lie

The “sexual jihad” lie is falling apart. Some celebrated this story when it went viral a few months ago and resorted to a cheap imagination to market tales in which sex mingles with fighting in the name of religion. They also depicted the Syrian regime as a “secular” fortress standing against this harm. All those who were involved in this cheap marketing are now silent towards this issue. An issue which all media outlets were attracted to an issue that later out turned out to be baseless.

Media outlets, rights organizations and activists did not find a single girl who could attest that she had granted her body as a gift to fighters in the name of religion. Perhaps what really cemented that this story was fake were the Syrian regime’s desperate attempts to circulate the story even after it was dropped by rights organizations and media due to the inability to prove it.

The Syrian regime published testimony by female teenager who was a purported victim. Rawan Qadah narrated a story of such proportions that only the Syrian regime could have fabricated it. Rawan narrated an incoherent story of how her father conspired against her and used her as a sexual commodity.

Perhaps the story which Rawan narrated is itself a crime committed by the Syrian regime; it doesn’t stop at anything for the sake of staying in power. The tragedy of Rawan, who was kidnapped months ago and whose father is an opponent of the regime, urged several media outlets to dig into this made-up phenomenon dubbed “sexual jihad.”

French daily Le Monde and American magazine Foreign Policy wrote articles and conducted investigation reports on this lie. After that, a torrent of Western and Arab articles were published in media outlets around the world in an attempt to compensate for falling in the trap of such a lie.

Investigation

Perhaps the best means which Le Monde and Foreign Policy adopted in solving the case was beginning their investigation at the root of the issue. The sheikh whom the fatwa was attributed to has confirmed several times that he did not issue this fatwa. The media outlet which marketed this story for the first time was one that supports the Syrian regime. Not a single case of sexual jihad could be proven. Tunisian officials who spoke on the subject did not present solid evidence either. It later turned out that they had personal interests to achieve by making these statements.

Amena Qalali, a researcher at the Human Rights Watch in Tunisia, said that Tunisian officials failed to prove Tunisian females’ involvement in so-called sexual jihad. She added that Tunisian officials marketed this story of sexual jihad in order to help the regime evade its responsibilities towards women’s rights organizations and their demands for freedom. According to Qalali, the Tunisian government evaded the demands of such women’s groups by making up the sexual jihad stories.

Although some officials in Tunisia are criminally and morally guilty of accusing girls of committing such practices without proof, the Syrian regime’s responsibility over what it has done to Rawan is much more. But, with a regime like the Syrian one, words have no value or meaning.

This article was first published in al-Sharq al-Awsat on Oct. 9, 2013.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/news/middle-east/2013/10/09/The-collapse-of-the-sexual-jihad-lie.html
Re: Another Hoax!!! Tunisian Girls 'intimate Jihad' by vedaxcool(m): 3:55pm On Oct 09, 2013
Expecting the one who peddles lies to come and justify these lies once again!

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