Mlud:

Anybody remember Peugeot Automobiles in Kaduna or VW in Ojo Lagos? Where are they today? Why have they been condemned to another page of Nigeria's economic history?

elektra80: Mr ikenna and Peugeot sha, just like a chicken protecting her chicks and will attack whatever cones near them. I don't think the OP said anything bad about Peugeot, as a matter of fact what he said is the plain truth, whether u are a fan of Peugeot or not. What OP was trying to say was that in the past when PAN was still functioning very well, most cars in Nigeria were Peugeot, if u own a Peugeot 504 then u are a rich man and there was no influx of tokunbo cars. Fast forward several years later and its no longer the same, other manufacturers especially the japs have taken over. A beg how many Peugeot dealership can u count in Lagos... I can count several Toyota dealerships around where I live alone... Even in abuja there are far more Toyota dealerships. So the question is what did Peugeot do wrong, maybe they relaxed too much and let others take over. So Mr Ikenna, I don't think the OP was attacking ur dearest Peugeot, but truth is bitter. Maybe Peugeot have to make a comeback. I think Nigeria should first promote, monitor and fund indigenous companies, then encourage people to buy before phasing out tokunbo cara... This will take some years to accomplish.

Ikenna351:


This your attitude or your hatred for Peugeot is becoming an obsession for you. In the other thread, you said Peugeot 406 doesn't have cup holder. I wonder what could be your reason for telling such a lie. Because you are telling those of us that drive 406 what does or doesn't exist in our 406?

Sometimes, some of us behave as if Lagos is Nigeria, that other states of the country is not part of Nigeria. So if Lagosians don't drive Peugeot, no other part of the country would?

Since you know how many Peugeot dealerships we have in Abuja, care to list them for us?

In front of my office, there is a car dealer that was having only new Toyotas before now. Right now, the Toyotas are no more their. What do we have their now? I counted about 13 brand new Peugeot 508 Turbo and about 18 brand new Peugeot 3008. The company name is Madunka Motors Ltd., Plot 13 Masana Street, Zone 1, Wuse, Abuja. My office is facing that compound and am in my office right now . A lot of Forum members have visited me in my office, they can prove me wrong here if am lying. By the way, the address is there, why not come and find out? You want to tell me Toyota dealerships in Abuja outnumbered that of Peugeot? You just shot yourself in the leg.

Ikenna

elektra80:

Ha ha ha, Mr Ikenna, I do not hate Peugeot. It was the way u attacked the OP that made me post my comment. Nobody is saying Peugeot is bad, but the fact remains they have been on the decline in Nigeria l, even though they have staged a comeback. So OP is right, u don't have to ask him what planet he came from because he was telling the truth. And about the 406 without a cup holder... That is very true. Now I'm not saying all 406 does'nt have one.. The one I drove doesn't and its a 2000 model. You are person that says only lazy and dummies drive automatic and another guy in ur support said Americans at lazy and even have cupholders in their car. So why die Peugeot start adding cupholders? You are so obsessed with Peugeot that u fail to see the truth, just like u also thinking people that drive automatically are dummies because of ur own personal interest. So Mr Ikenna, I did not shoot myself in the leg.

Siena: Ease up, Ikenna. You know what online forums are like, so many different views on one subject. I doubt the OP or Elektra were attacking the Peugeot Brand. So he made a mistake, simply correct him.

I'm an Audi guy, others may not like Audi, some may even detest them. I've seen many erroneous statements on the Audi Brand, but I just let them go. They don't bother me, because let's face it automobile are merely hunks of metal on wheels. They come, they go. As long as YOU are secure in the knowledge of your preferred brand, all is well. The opinions of others won't affect your choice, or enjoyment of your own car.

smartchoice: @Siena what's your view of audi A4 1.8/2.0 Engine?

Ikenna351:

I can see that you have a serious problem. I made a mistake responding to your post.

How much you hate me is not my headache, but be mindful of how you spread false information in Car Talk.

Ikenna.

Siena: Ease up, Ikenna. You know what online forums are like, so many different views on one subject. I doubt the OP or Elektra were attacking the Peugeot Brand. So he made a mistake, simply correct him.

I'm an Audi guy, others may not like Audi, some may even detest them. I've seen many erroneous statements on the Audi Brand, but I just let them go. They don't bother me, because let's face it automobile are merely hunks of metal on wheels. They come, they go. As long as YOU are secure in the knowledge of your preferred brand, all is well. The opinions of others won't affect your choice, or enjoyment of your own car.

Ikenna351:

You don't get it.

Elektra80 is not really after Peugeot. Peugeot happens to be a victim because of me. Go through his recent posts in car talk and see how he has been making effort to paint Ikenna351 black: Ikenna said this, Ikenna said that. And because Ikenna351 loves Peugeot brand, the brand is bad too.

I don't work for Peugeot, neither do I work for PAN or any French company. I don't defend Peugeot where they have flaws. Have you visited Peugeot Thread? We discuss issues with our lions and possible solutions to them in that thread. So for anyone to say that am out here to defend and protect Peugeot brand is not been fair to me.

Last time I checked, cup holder is standard in Peugeot 406. Spreading such false information or lies in Car Talk is against the forum rules. It may not go unnoticed next time.

Ikenna

Siena:

What year sir?

Mlud: A Nigerian governor in perhaps the Southern most apex of the country during a TV debate to seek a second term criticized his opponents not for their advanced age but the age of their ideas.
Nigeria deserves a vibrant motor industry comprising of manufacturers dealers (New and used) parts fabricators and retailers (Ladipo Owerri Kaduna or Port Harcourt) fuel retailers etc, and of course the end user, (you and I) those who drive for necessity and for pleasure.

The government has just announced the proposed banning of importing used vehicles into Nigeria. Details of implementation are still sketchy.
Nigeria has a right to develop policies to protect encourage and revive a home grown industry by Nigerians for Nigerians. But it should be done properly, in a measured manner and should certainly not be executed in a knee jerk fashion or in a hurry.

Anybody remember Peugeot Automobiles in Kaduna or VW in Ojo Lagos? Where are they today? Why have they been condemned to another page of Nigeria's economic history? Many of their products still ply our roads though.

Develop a proper industry first. Get them running and fit for purpose. Give them tax advantages and get competent managers to run them. Encourage graduates designers and inventors. There's more than enough talent in the country.
Develop a 3-5-10 year plan and beyond. Monitor its progress strengths and weaknesses.
Part of this plan will be the policy to gently increase the duty on Tokunbo cars and maybe a gradual phasing out.
Showcase the best Nigeria has by Govt officials driving made in Nigeria. (Can this happen? Probably if well managed).
Then...maybe...just maybe you can carry people along and possibly have a proper Nigerian motor industry.

The banning of imported goods is not new to Nigeria. The annals of history readily indicate the success or failure of such policies.

I encourage the Nigerian Government and Trade Minister Olusegun Aganga in their zeal to re-awaken the motor industry but any action must be commensurate with the needs of the populace and balanced with viable economic policies.

Until then we must avoid stumbling from one half baked economic policy unto another.
We will get there but we need to get it right. Slowly maybe but surely.