wasak:
an illiterate wouldn't have t typed all that... which elder should I respect? d one who demands for sex in return for A?

wasak: in my school for instance the VC solicits from wealthy people to carry out projects and in less than 2years he has achieved what predecessors put together didn't achieve. I'm talking about professor Abdulrashid of Bayero university kano.

prof.femi:

Can you kindly stop comparing academics with (to) senators?
To the topic:

a) The no work-no-pay rule is fine. Forget the fact that I am hard at work on my research...if my students are suffering at home due to the strike, then I consider the no-work-no-pay my own share of the hardship.

b) Nigerian students come out looking even more self-centered than they claim ASUU is. Just because you want to get on with the worthless education you're currently getting, and graduate on time, you're willing to ask us to shut up and leave the system in its current state. Translation: tour nation's educational system can go to hell as long as you graduate on time

c) Yes, ASUU is fighting for allowances. Do you know how the bulk of those allowances came about? I'll tell you. My department for example is supposed to have 60 "lecturers". That is the NUC establishment. However, because the government can't afford to employ the right number, we have to get by with only 25. That's right, 25 of us do the work of 60 (and you wonder why we can't get scripts ready on time, or why we don't bother grading your assignments properly...). The government finds it easier to pay those 25 of us "excess workload" for doing the work of 60. Only now, they turn around and say we should not ask for the allowances.

Will the FG (and you) make up your minds: do you want to pay me extra for working extra (personally, I don't want excess workload) or do you want to employ the right number of staff??!

d) When students shout on ASUU to call off and leave the government be, they are forgetting one thing: there is ONLY ONE entity in Nigeria stoping school fees from going to (for example) N500,000 per year in all universities. Yes, it is this same ASUU you are criticizing. For the avoidance of doubt, I personally believe students should be made to pay close to what their education is worth. When a man pays for something, he is more likely to valule it.

So, in a nutshell, while I agree that no-work-no-pay is just about right, you should be careful in laughing at ASUU members who feel the pinch. IF ASUU buckles, you can be sure you will be paying more than N100,000 for you next school fees.

mex22: shut up my friend

mex22: .
shut up my friend

Promhize:

Was going to call u a fool but... Do two wrongs make a right? U must be a lecturer, cos I can't believe someone is still supporting these idiots after 4months!

Promhize: From the replies, I'm happy that Nigerians are finally seeing beyond their nose (beyond just the govt).

I wish Jonathan was in his second term, mass-sacking that's what these heartless ingrates would get. Nonsense!

wasak: so they wanna be paid without work? bunch of old selfish rascals...
Nonsense in it's most civilized manner!!

BEASTER: NO work no pay is the only remedy 2 solve this problem 'cos ASUU dos'nt hv any small pity on Nigerian students so the bad be wosen.

wasak:
I am ready to challenge ASUU to a debate, d government as corrupt as it is have shifted ground, what the hell is ASUU fighting for? let's say our lecturers aren't qualified enough, y don't they overhaul themselves if they are truly fighting for d system? OK. they want over 3 trillion naira? how much is the overall budget of the country? do u know how many years Nigeria has been running on budget deficit? common!! think... so after providing the funds Nigerian universities will automatically become world class? is ur Aristo Dad a. lecturer?

wasak:
and d strike is d best way to get proper education? can u prove to me that funding is the number 1 problem of universities?

Olumidzti: how many days do your senators sit per week? & how much do they get? Some people are so 'wise' they'll fight against people stealing hundreds from them & defend people stealing billions.

wasak: .
I'm not hating.. all I'm saying is d industrial action is doing more harm than good...d strike can be called off with continuous negotiations.. but nay!!! ASUU won't agree...it's all about their pocket while I sit at home for months doing nothing only to resume for exams and I'm expected to pass @ d end of d day

prof.femi:

If this were not a faceless forum, the likes of you wouldn't even be on the same podium with me. So, go ahead and abuse the privilege.

prof.femi:

If this were not a faceless forum, the likes of you wouldn't even be on the same podium with me. So, go ahead and abuse the privilege.

prof.femi:


Don't misunderstand things. ASUU is primarily fighting for (a) its members (b) the Nigerian tertiary education system. We are not fighting for students in the sense of reducing their fees. We are fighting for students in the sense that the education you're getting is basically worthless, and (hopefully) with the right injection of funds, you are more *likely* to get a proper education. Gedit?

Sajio: ...... That's not the issue here, and even @that......if the lecturers wants †̥ earn like the senators? The had better go †̥ the pull and face the risk in being a Senator!! I support no work no pay rule joor!! ASUU should call of the damn strike.. D educational system cannot turn around overnight!!

Eminey: I'm just observing things and chuckling at most comments. The issue here's not some senators getting bumper pay...and a lecturer equaling such standards....I support the strike action...but like many other failed attempts they'v not learnt from...wot happened to proper planning?...itz 4 months now..was this d original plan?...u can't just go on strike without adequate planning...I even heard NASU wasn't briefed b4 d action started....like I said earlier b4 finz ensued into the No_work_No_pay....I expected a round table meeting...ASUU..Private investors...Government...Foundations.....UNESCO and related blabla sheeps....and an University Educational Reform Bill passed from then on...dying on some agreement with the FG I know never and i'ld still say...NEVER!...can end the educational crisis...itz doesn't even kick starts finz...it rather kick starts finz on a faulty background headed for collapse in a few years....did dey consider the viability of sustaining these funds..."the corruption 'll stop all of a sudden aii?"...back to the Bill...I expected to see the bill...slowly but steadily implemented...say wot Eva...but datz a positive inertia...the educational system won't change bcoz 6trillion is thrown init....we won't see any changes until there's a better plan than dying on the 2009's agreement....we won't see any changes until 8 yrs time....so y d haste?..HE WHO MAKES HASTE MAKES WASTE...let's see how much wasted time ASUU and FG has caused Nigeria....still watching and observing!

Eminey: I'm just observing things and chuckling at most comments. The issue here's not some senators getting bumper pay...and a lecturer equaling such standards....I support the strike action...but like many other failed attempts they'v not learnt from...wot happened to proper planning?...itz 4 months now..was this d original plan?...u can't just go on strike without adequate planning...I even heard NASU wasn't briefed b4 d action started....like I said earlier b4 finz ensued into the No_work_No_pay....I expected a round table meeting...ASUU..Private investors...Government...Foundations.....UNESCO and related blabla sheeps....and an University Educational Reform Bill passed from then on...dying on some agreement with the FG I know never and i'ld still say...NEVER!...can end the educational crisis...itz doesn't even kick starts finz...it rather kick starts finz on a faulty background headed for collapse in a few years....did dey consider the viability of sustaining these funds..."the corruption 'll stop all of a sudden aii?"...back to the Bill...I expected to see the bill...slowly but steadily implemented...say wot Eva...but datz a positive inertia...the educational system won't change bcoz 6trillion is thrown init....we won't see any changes until there's a better plan than dying on the 2009's agreement....we won't see any changes until 8 yrs time....so y d haste?..HE WHO MAKES HASTE MAKES WASTE...let's see how much wasted time ASUU and FG has caused Nigeria....still watching and observing!

vizboy: hunger don dey come small small. Make fg continue like that. NO WORK NO PAY

Olumidzti: two wrongs don't make a right. Obviously you're the fool here coz only fools make stupid assumptions. I'm not a lecturer & it's only fools like you that will generalize all lecturers in this country as idiots. One thing I've also found surprising is how the government use people like you who can't think deeply against any org fighting the government.

prof.femi:


When you say "prove to you" what does it mean? Anyhow, yes, funding is the number 1 problem because

1) The conditions of service are not good enough to attract and retain the best minds.
2) The good minds do decide to stay do not have the right equipment and conducive environment to work.

You probably want to tell me that lazy, greedy, indolent, unscrupulous etc. lecturers are the number one problem, no? Well, my friend, go back and look at point number 1 above. Fact is, you get what you pay for. If Nigerian universities cannot employ smart brains year-in-year-out, what happens is, you fill the system with a lot of dross. The lazy, greedy ones you hate are here because the funding is not right to attract the best minds. Gedit?

Olumidzti: ingrates? Have you done anything for them? Now this is a fool behind a keyboard.

Olumidzti: you people just don't get it do you? I wonder how you've always been able to miss simple points consistently. I never said lecturers should be paid like senators. I just want everyone to be paid what they're worth. Senators should be paid what they're worth, lecturers should be paid what they're worth, farmers should be paid what they're worth, tailors should be paid what they're worth. Don't rob the citizens to pay the senators, don't rob Peter to pay Paul. I think that should be simple enough for you.