italo:

Of course I know.

I just want him to clarify for some people here:

Acidosis and Gombs

Mellin: catholics have priest ..Anglican have priest too...

priest ..pastor.. all na d same..
I won't mention any church here

I just need to know if its right which I have already found out from y'all ..and thanks

Mellin: catholics have priest ..Anglican have priest too...

priest ..pastor.. all na d same..
I won't mention any church here

I just need to know if its right which I have already found out from y'all ..and thanks

Mellin: catholics have priest ..Anglican have priest too...

priest ..pastor.. all na d same..
I won't mention any church here

I just need to know if its right which I have already found out from y'all ..and thanks

Acidosis:

Some churches keep record of Tithes and pledges.

From Orthodox to some pentecostals.

Iceman296:
No Catholic Church Keeps record of Tithe Payment.

ukotmi:

Hi, St Joseph Catholic Church Mgbidi Imo State came up with a scheme called envelope sunday. You are given an envelope and a number. On a particular sunday in a month, your giving will be in that special envelope. It was fashioned after tithe and tithe cards. It was tithe in another. The money you are supposed to give is graded. Later, the envelope will be returned to you for the next envelope sunday.
I recall my grandfather's last wife who should be in her 80's then bin told her giving was lower than level. Her envelope was returned with a note telling her the shortfall she need to make up. We laughed and laughed.
So where are the peeps saying no catholic church keeps record of tithe payment. Even the parish priest who introduced it made reference to tithe.

italo:

If your account is accurate, this is new and distasteful to my ears.

ukotmi:

Hi, St Joseph Catholic Church Mgbidi Imo State came up with a scheme called envelope sunday. You are given an envelope and a number. On a particular sunday in a month, your giving will be in that special envelope. It was fashioned after tithe and tithe cards. It was tithe in another. The money you are supposed to give is graded. Later, the envelope will be returned to you for the next envelope sunday.
I recall my grandfather's last wife who should be in her 80's then bin told her giving was lower than level. Her envelope was returned with a note telling her the shortfall she need to make up. We laughed and laughed.
So where are the peeps saying no catholic church keeps record of tithe payment. Even the parish priest who introduced it made reference to tithe.

chukwudi44:

That parish priest should be sanctioned!! He is a very big disgrace to the Catholic church. That Practice is not in consonance with the teaching of the church and not contained in the Cathchism of the Catholic Church

italo:
Although the Church teaches that offering some form of material support to the Church is obligatory for all Catholic adults who are able to do so, it doesn't specify what percent of one's income should be given. Remember, tithing was an Old Testament obligation that was incumbent on the Jews under the Law of Moses. Christians are dispensed from the obligation of tithing ten percent of their incomes, but not from the obligation to help the Church.

The key to understanding how God wants us to give to the Church is found in 1 Corinthians 16:2, "On the first day of the week [Sunday] each of you should set aside whatever he can afford," and in 2 Corinthians 9:5-8,

"So I thought it necessary to encourage the brothers to go on ahead to you and arrange in advance for your promised gift [donation], so that in this way it might be ready as a bountiful gift and not as an exaction. Consider this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. Each must do as already determined without sadness or compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. Moreover, God is able to make every grace abundant for you, so that in all things, always having all you need, you may have an abundance for every good work."

To paraphrase: God doesn't demand a fixed amount of money from us; he wants us to give from the heart. If people are forced by their church to give a certain percent of their income, that's extortion. If they give freely and cheerfully the amount they are able, that's a gift.

http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/what-is-the-churchs-position-on-tithing

Gombs:

So you tot we were making everything up?

Gombs: Oya now that you know Catholics do...go and start paying your tithes, be a good flock or port from the roman catholic church.

Gombs: preach to chukwudi44 too. Or would you call the priests there thieves, scammers, fraudsters, crooks etc as anti tithers do?

Gombs: Chukwudi44 should remember I told him st Murumba church pay and teach tithing, he said that catholic churches don preach tithing

italo:
I dont remember discussing tithe with you.

The Church doesnt teach it and the Imo story hasnt been confirmed.

I cannot judge on what I have not confirmed and without the Priests' side of the story. I'm not a Pentecostal.

The Church doesnt teach tithing. That is easily verifiable.

Gombs: This one
that NL catholics don't know about catholic church tithes, its either
dey just stop by the church every sunday 6am mass and that's it or that
their own church is different from other catholic churches.

Me thinks His Holiness Cardinal Chukwudi should defrock all those
priests receiving and preaching tithing... Your Holiness sir, I think
the pope should hear this. They should be sanctioned because [size=32pt]
"That Practice is not in consonance with the teaching of the church and
not contained in the Cathchism of the Catholic Church" [/size]

Gombs: [size=16pt] AMP:Obey your spiritual leaders and submit to them [continually recognizing their authority over you], for they are constantly keeping watch over your souls and guarding your spiritual welfare, as men who will have to render an account [of their trust]. [Do your part to] let them do this with gladness and not with sighing and groaning, for that would not be profitable to you [either ] [/size]
Hebrews 13v 17


Nice decision...if u mention church name, imagine the bashing the church would have....imagine the insult the priest would get....fraudster, scammer, thief, etc

Let's just leave it as a tithe paying/ teaching Church...but Op, here is not the right place to discuss this, u said u have been there all ur life, from ur childhood...u could have met other priests, or deacon or something, if u are not convinced wifh what they tell u, u can then quietly leave the church without stiring strife or recourse.

But my advice is...submit to those who have authorithy over you in the spirit....as the author of Hebrews said above...if they are wrong, that verse said they will give account...just pay yhe said amount and [size=14pt]move on[/size]...if u can pay the money which am sure u can, why the publicity then? The author above said, it will not profit u

Mellin: pls what do I do?cos I really don't understand my priest ..

italo:

If your account is accurate, this is new and distasteful to my ears.

chukwudi44:

That parish priest should be sanctioned!! He is a very big disgrace to the Catholic church.That Practice is not in consonance with the teaching of the church and not contained in the Cathchism of the Catholic Church

ukotmi: GOMBs, Bidam,some of us were serious catholics well schooled in the doctrines of the church before seeing the light. Some catholics are only catholic in name and don't know the doctrines. Some are not serious participants in activities at their home (home town) parishes. They stay in Lagos and Abuja etc and claim catholics.
Go to the igbo villages and towns and see what is happening.

ukotmi: GOMBs, Bidam,some of us were serious catholics well schooled in the doctrines of the church before seeing the light. Some catholics are only catholic in name and don't know the doctrines. Some are not serious participants in activities at their home (home town) parishes. They stay in Lagos and Abuja etc and claim catholics.
Go to the igbo villages and towns and see what is happening.

ukotmi: GOMBs, Bidam,some of us were serious catholics well schooled in the doctrines of the church before seeing the light. Some catholics are only catholic in name and don't know the doctrines. Some are not serious participants in activities at their home (home town) parishes. They stay in Lagos and Abuja etc and claim catholics.
Go to the igbo villages and towns and see what is happening.

Bidam: :

Demain_man:

We all know that most Igbo Rev. Fathers are thieves, even worst than the Pentecostal pastors. Those Eastern Rev Fathers are only after their stomach and that of their immediate families. Thieves I call them!!. They will go to a community and suck the people dry in the name of doing one church project or the other. You need to see my village church which one of them has been building for over 10 years now with completion not anywhere in sight after spending millions and millions. Every year it is one fund raising or the other. I am sure the guy would have built several housing estates from the money he has been siphoning from the foolish villagers who think that worshiping Revered Father will bring them salvation.

The most annoying thing is the fact that our village school has been in the same state of decay like forever. Nobody is thinking of rebuilding the school where the leaders of tomorrow are taught yet they waste tens of millions building the new church while most the parishioners live in abject poverty.

Igbo Revered Fathers, repent or you will all burn in hell due to your love of money.

Mellin: ..I was told to pay certain amount before I could wed in my own church that I have been attending since I was a kid....

Mellin: ...
pls what do I do?cos I really don't understand my priest ..

Demain_man:

We all know that most Igbo Rev. Fathers are thieves, even worst than the Pentecostal pastors. Those Eastern Rev Fathers are only after their stomach and that of their immediate families. Thieves I call them!!. They will go to a community and suck the people dry in the name of doing one church project or the other. You need to see my village church which one of them has been building for over 10 years now with completion not anywhere in sight after spending millions and millions. Every year it is one fund raising or the other. I am sure the guy would have built several housing estates from the money he has been siphoning from the foolish villagers who think that worshiping Revered Father will bring them salvation.

The most annoying thing is the fact that our village school has been in the same state of decay like forever. Nobody is thinking of rebuilding the school where the leaders of tomorrow are taught yet they waste tens of millions building the new church while most the parishioners live in abject poverty.

Igbo Revered Fathers, repent or you will all burn in hell due to your love of money.