SUNNYsparkle:
http://www.google.com.ng/uq=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Egyptian_hypothesis&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiPhKev9PnTAhVJZlAKHcgWCAoQ0gIIDSgAMAA&usg=AFQjCNE6u4h-cZuTzb0YSD1ueIJQ4OC9fw

http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://www.lisapoyakama.org/en/the-ancient-egyptians-were-black/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiPhKev9PnTAhVJZlAKHcgWCAoQFggTMAI&usg=AFQjCNEDWXU-Nu33iIDCns2yU3Ad4r1Ilw

http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://www.lisapoyakama.org/en/the-ancient-egyptians-were-black/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiPhKev9PnTAhVJZlAKHcgWCAoQFggTMAI&usg=AFQjCNEDWXU-Nu33iIDCns2yU3Ad4r1Ilw

http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/10/25/10-arguments-that-proves-ancient-egyptians-were-black/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiPhKev9PnTAhVJZlAKHcgWCAoQFggWMAM&usg=AFQjCNHqO3x_Fsrkku71s1P_JVrsdc39lQ

http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dc-wyBXnYgXI&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiPhKev9PnTAhVJZlAKHcgWCAoQtwIIKDAJ&usg=AFQjCNEO-0dkwcMGNNjhN4i5aPG5nGSnRw

http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D0OY3jsaOGAA&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwj7o_qm9fnTAhVIZlAKHZZUC984ChC3AggOMAE&usg=AFQjCNGv2V3SDuA1169yVADqtdJDhsJE0g

http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DXYXE3tnXVKo&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwj7o_qm9fnTAhVIZlAKHZZUC984ChC3AggRMAI&usg=AFQjCNGWzDOerfdnO4p8yqDK2jZRct4zQQ

http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Elam_Iran_1.htm&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwijvpLa9fnTAhWHJ1AKHS52A8QQFggYMAU&usg=AFQjCNEG9VLtRzqaOmvNAP5IYH4qcIAqgg

http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php/584849-The-Ancient-Iranians-and-Iraqis-were-black-part-1/page4&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwijvpLa9fnTAhWHJ1AKHS52A8QQFggjMAk&usg=AFQjCNHfmfWxE6EpDH9j7ApmPONb5_TvYA

I studied Human Ecology in Vrije Universiteit Brussel (VUB) - Brussels - Belgium.

Read! And say confusionist

SUNNYsparkle:
http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=https://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-greater-igbo-nation-by-ishaq-d-al-sulaimani/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjlgbr28PnTAhXsCcAKHaazBDkQFggLMAA&usg=AFQjCNFtVZ5RrfYZKjMFLkoC8lk6V9xw9Q

SUNNYsparkle:
http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://venturesafrica.com/yorubas-are-99-9-genetically-igbo-study/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjE06bV8fnTAhXMJcAKHXGsDMEQFggLMAA&usg=AFQjCNFT6etAL-E7qwLqPcGmAO80ipfJPw http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://newsrescue.com/yoruba-are-99-adangbe-study/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjE06bV8fnTAhXMJcAKHXGsDMEQFggOMAE&usg=AFQjCNHwgjJtFhdFpTEVFIygs4dH3nbdHw

http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://www.herald.ng/yoruba-genetically-99-9-percent-igbo-study-reveals/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjE06bV8fnTAhXMJcAKHXGsDMEQFggUMAM&usg=AFQjCNGofLa9ikNVjUWwmszyjrvvZ_dYdQ

http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://bmcgenet.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2156-6-38&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjE06bV8fnTAhXMJcAKHXGsDMEQFggXMAQ&usg=AFQjCNENfYYMMjzYzy4k5gfcQjfSm7yG9w

http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=https://www.ancestry.com/dna/ethnicity/nigeria&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjE06bV8fnTAhXMJcAKHXGsDMEQFggZMAU&usg=AFQjCNG8ou6YWcQQI6FQxkJkHeN07nDX9Q

https://tracingafricanroots./2015/06/03/specifying-the-african-origins-of-the-african-american-genome/

Stop trying to justify your recycled fallacy. It doesn't matter how many links you paste here. You are still a confusionist and a revisionist!!

SUNNYsparkle:
I have few questions for you which you have to answer satisfactorily or you keep mute and go and read. Questions: Why is Igbo and Yoruba under the same Kwa Family? What were the criteria used in this classifications? Why wasnt Igbo classified with their closest neighbours Ijaws in the South and CrossRiver in the East, Why with Yoruba? Were the two groups grouped together even without glaring similarities? Was this classification done by specialized anthropologist/ethnographers/scientist or was it done by quacks orally? Has there been any DNA test relating Yoruba-Igbo-Edo? After answering these questions satisfactorily I'm sorry for your outbursts, Truth is bitter they say. Your outbursts have no bases... Only in-built envy... Shake it off and open your eyes to new superior horizons and views. It is not a matter of opening your mouth and talking

Guy, go back and re-learn the facts, and stop trying to elevate your false hypothesis to a high art. I have told you before, the fact that certain tribes belong to the same 'kwa family, does not mean their languages will not be mutually unintelligible to each other. Stop trying to force a wrong identity on different ethnic groups.

SUNNYsparkle:
Yes I said I am not into the ethnic rivalry rubbish! What is it you have against the statement. Are you this foolish? Where have I gone contrary to my earlier statement? That instead of bringing out a superior study to prove yourself right you resorted to calling me confusionist! Didn't you call me such? And you expect me not to talk straight to you. Get lost if you have nothing meaningful t cntribute to this topic! Nonsense

Why am I not surprised? You got called out on your attempts to rewrite the history of whole ethnic groups, and so the next thing you decided to do was to throw out insults? You just asked: "Are you this foolish?" You really ought to direct the question to yourself, maybe it would give you the opportunity to conduct a thorough introspection and proper self-appraisal. Once you have done that, kindly give us an answer. So let me ask you now...."are you this foolish?"

Laudate, laudate, laudate. How many times I don call you?

Olu317:
Just as word are borrowed during Language development,certain words that seem related are borrowed from one region to the other . Ancient Yoruba language are descriptive in nature. And these can be attested to as result of language development. IFA in Yoruba is AFA in Ibo. Does it not show one borrow from another? Despite the borrowing, there are certain characteristics at which language can be classified as related. Igala has traces of Yoruba language with 60+% . Still, it is not classified as YORUBA LANGUAGE because it needs to be up to 70% before it grouped as YORUBA LANGUAGE. Yoruba borrowed words and don't deny it. Either from Northern part or outside . And in all these borrowing of language, Yoruba did developed a city that was known by some many but couldn't be reached because of the location in the deep forested area we were located.

That's my own dialect.. I don't know what the other dialects call theirs or it is centrally Thats nt the only thing I've listed there

SUNNYsparkle:
That's my own dialect.. I don't know what the other dialects call theirs or it is centrally Thats nt the only thing I've listed there

Now,let me further str8n certain facts here,that there are in Enugu enclave that had Yoruba related words. However, these were partially due to either few elements of migrations or inter-marriages. Has anything been done on language classification of the South East (Ibos) language? Igbo(Igbos) . Take for instance, Eastern Kogi State ,Northern Enugu State , Uzo Uwani , Igbo Eze North,Nsukka Local Government Areas have words slightly related to Yoruba language which could be as a result of slight migrations or inter-marriages. But we are different. Ptah’s rule over Egypt began as early as 21,000 BC! If his name and the collective name for the gods of Egypt, Neter, were Igbo in origin, it implies that an ancient civilization of Igbo extraction existed in West Africa, where the gods, and not men ruled, by at least 22,000 BC; that Egypt was an originally Igbo-speaking civilization and that early Egyptians were Igbos. One Yoruba author seeking recognition went and spew trash when he said YORUBA AND IBO PARTED LANGUAGE 2000 years ago when if in fact heavy studies had been done on Ibo language that had SPANNED OVER 21,000 YEARS AGO. ISNT IT FOOLHARDY TO ACCEPT SUCH CRAP? People just come on here to churn out trash when they have no knowledge of history.


Go through this piece.

SUNNYsparkle:
So where we dey borrow the words? So is it possible that only Yoruba words were convenient for Igbo to borrow. How come Igbo didn't borrow such words from their immediate Cross River, Ibibio neighbors?

The contact with Ibo started more during the iron age era. If you check part of the places mentioned Kogi axis connecting to Northern Enugu, you will understand part of history.
Eastern Kogi State ,
in and around the areas of
Dekina ,
Ankpa , Idah ,
ibaji , Omala,
Igalamela-Odolu Etc.
Ife, Ankpa, Dekina, Ibaji, Ebu, Idah


Eastern
Kogi State , Northern
Enugu State , Uzo Uwani , Igbo Eze North,
Nsukka Local Government Areas

The partly side in Enugu enclave were the reason for the sporadic connection because some people from part of Ibo land are IGALA GROUP. So, if you have language connection to Yoruba, it is essential, you find how your ancestors arrived at the present location you have as place of ORIGIN.

AworiLagosian:


Guy, Yoruba word for cloud is Ikuuku , not Ofurufu.

The cloud encompassing the sky. However, the sky is acknowledged as Ofurufu. I am not too familiar with such . Anyway, thanks for the new additional knowledge. The point here is about engaging Ibos claims to know terms used for things,places ,animals etc having same meaning with Yorubas.

So much stupidity on this thread.

laudate:


Stop trying to justify your recycled fallacy. It doesn't matter how many links you paste here. You are still a confusionist and a revisionist!!

See intellectual contribution. See open mind. No bringing in of facts to prove or disprove the message- just bitter rudeness at the messanger.

igbodefender:
See intellectual contribution. See open mind. No bringing in of facts to prove or disprove the message- just bitter rudeness at the messanger.

_(yawn) We have seen your own so-called 'intellectual' contribution. It was anchored on a flawed, faulty premise held up by straps of fallacy. Well done. Clap for yourself.

laudate:


_(yawn) We have seen your own so-called 'intellectual' contribution. It was anchored on a flawed, faulty premise held up by straps of fallacy. Well done. Clap for yourself.

Nairaland is a discussion forum were ideas are brought out proven to be true or debunked with valid facts not abuse and trolling. Quit the abuse and trolling.

igbodefender:
Nairaland is a discussion forum were ideas are brought out proven to be true or debunked with valid facts not abuse and trolling. Quit the abuse and trolling.

Haba, na you get the Ph.D for trolling and abuse for dis side. You sef check am, nah. You really should learn to take your own advice. Or do you want me to cut & paste all the nasty epithets you have churned out on this thread?

guys, if you all go check my ogiri stew now all of u will just be celebrating and happy ok, go to food section laudate ibodefending, check my Sunday onugbuing and ogigi tomato stew and party jollof rice ok

laudate:


Haba, na you get the Ph.D for trolling and abuse for dis side. You sef check am, nah. You really should learn to take your own advice. Or do you want me to cut & paste all the nasty epithets you have churned out on this thread?

Please do.

MannyAgyeiK:
Then, why did the Yorubas of that era call them 'Igbos'? Fine, I'm Ghanaian, but dismissing a theory cuz it's unfavorable to your tribe is a bit parochial and myopic. You could easily have shredded this with actual facts, instead of sneering at it with no objective basis. Your fellow Yoruba simply put forward a counterclaim about 'Ugbos' that was a fact, without ad hominem attacks. By the way, I read somewhere that Olukumi, along with Itsekiri, were initial settlements of Yorubas before they reached Ile-Ife, which explains the Yoruba link.

The word Yoruba orginated during or after the Kiriji war. Each tribe in the now SouthWest has different names for their tribes.

The most General word used to describe the people of South West was Lukumi or Ulkumi or Olukumi. Most Yoruba's in the West Indies still refer to themselves as Lukumi.

The Ugbo's are different from the Igbos. The Ugbos they were chased out of Ife by Prince Ekaladerhan aka Oduduwa are the Ilajes in present day Ondo state.

opal4real:


The word Yoruba orginated during or after the Kiriji war. Each tribe in the now SouthWest has different names for their tribes.

The most General word used to describe the people of South West was Lukumi or Ulkumi or Olukumi. Most Yoruba's in the West Indies still refer to themselves as Lukumi.

The Ugbo's are different from the Igbos. The Ugbos they were chased out of Ife by Prince Ekaladerhan aka Oduduwa are the Ilajes in present day Ondo state.

And how are you so sure it is not the present day Igbos? The distance between Ife, Osun State and Ife, IMO State is not that far (they are both in Southern Nigeria).

Yes, the Ugbo are among the Ife aborigines referred to as Igbo by Yoruba history, but research shows that they aren't the only aborigines of Ife. You also have the Owu, the Anioma (Ugbodu, Onicha -Orisa- Ugbo, Ugbokko Araba- like Idi Araba in Eko, etc.), and many other groups that today are either Igbo or Yoruba.

But when Oduduwa The Great arrived in Ife, these are the people he met- ruled by Obatala, the Oba Igbo, the Obi Osere Igbo.

As for what you said about Olukumi, the only place it is spoken indigenously in Africa is in Aniocha Local Government, deep in today's Igbo land.

Lol, stupid thread with lots of tales by moonlight and other fake stories.

baby124:
Lol, stupid thread with lots of tales by moonlight and other fake stories.

Another 'intellectual' contribution that has made the thread more popular. Next.

igbodefender:
And how are you so sure it is not the present day Igbos? The distance between Ife, Osun State and Ife, IMO State is not that far (they are both in Southern Nigeria).

Yes, the Ugbo are among the Ife aborigines referred to as Igbo by Yoruba history, but research shows that they aren't the only aborigines of Ife. You also have the Owu, the Anioma (Ugbodu, Onicha -Orisa- Ugbo, Ugbokko Araba- like Idi Araba in Eko, etc.), and many other groups that today are either Igbo or Yoruba.

But when Oduduwa The Great arrived in Ife, these are the people he met- ruled by Obatala, the Oba Igbo, the Obi Osere Igbo.

As for what you said about Olukumi, the only place it is spoken indigenously in Africa is in Aniocha Local Government, deep in today's Igbo land.

You are WRONG about OWU as well as your PERCEPTION OF OLUKUNMI /OLUKUMI. No Yoruba will deny that Olukumi are from Yoruba offshoot and has nothing to do with “UGBO". People been referred to at the period when rebel came up prominently at ILE IFE were few members of Obamakin family, who was a descendant of Obatala. And they invaded ILE IFE marketplace and stole goods, kidnapped ILE IFE people as well being dressed like moving bushes .They were covered in Raffia and were marauders. As you can see, they were part of ILE IFE group from the beginning before the rebellion. As for Owu, he was born by Odu'a 's daughter. How can you now come up with information you don't know? Stop all these connection with Ibos. It seems ,you are from OLUKUMI because, the way you kept dragging Yoruba of Olukumi and connecting them with Ibos is just uncalled for and a waste of time.

Olu317:
You are WRONG about OWU as well as your PERCEPTION OF OLUKUNMI /OLUKUMI. No Yoruba will deny that Olukumi are from Yoruba offshoot and has nothing to do with “UGBO". People been referred to at the period when rebel came up prominently at ILE IFE were few members of Obamakin family, who was a descendant of Obatala. And they invaded ILE IFE marketplace and stole goods, kidnapped ILE IFE people as well being dressed like moving bushes .They were covered in Raffia and were marauders. As you can see, they were part of ILE IFE group from the beginning before the rebellion. As for Owu, he was born by Odu'a 's daughter. How can you now come up with information you don't know? Stop all these connection with Ibos. It seems ,you are from OLUKUMI because, the way you kept dragging Yoruba of Olukumi and connecting them with Ibos is just uncalled for and a waste of time.

Sir, it's either you know the truth and you are trying desperately to hide it or you don't know the truth. Now let me tackle your last post. You say that the first Olowu (Ajibosin) was born by Odua's daughter. Now that is a big.... TRUTH. Now let me ask you, who was the father, who was the husband of this Oduduwa's daughter? he was non other than Obatala, the Oba Igbo, the Obi Osere Igbo, the King of the Igbo Nation. Let me stop here for now, but take a look at the except below:

Obatala: Husband of the first princess of Ile-Ife, Iyunade, and father of Ajibosin, the first Olowu. He was also the Ifa High Priest and Spiritual Consultant to Oduduwa among many other monarchs in the now the West African sub-region. Ifa divination ability was second nature to Obatala being reportedly the son and scholar of Agbonmiregun Setilu, the acclaimed Ifa progenitor from Nupeland. Obatala also had considerable farming interests as the owner of vast cotton plantations located adjacent to the River Niger in the Savannah region, presumably acquired from his vast earnings as an International Ifa Consultant – which earned him the appellation of ‘Olowu’ or cotton owner.

Obatala was larger than life and was no less prominent than Oduduwa, the acclaimed patriarch of the Yorubas. In fact, he has been deified as the head and oldest of the Orishas who created the physical world at the behest of Olodumare.It is also claimed that Obatala had arrived Ile-Ife down a mythical chain long before Oduduwa arrived by similar means, and ruled the people before the latter came to stage a civil war which deposed Obatala as leader. The two were later reconciled and Obatala agreed to assist Oduduwa’s reign through his Ifa Divination.

Oduduwa granted his first daughter, Iyunade, to the Ifa High Priest perhaps as part of their truce concessions.As a roving Ifa consultant, Obatala became very wealthy and invested heavily in vast land holdings in the savannah region which he employed in cotton farming, an occupation that earned him the appellation of Baba-Olowu (cotton lord). Ajibosin was to inherit a large chunk of these which formed the bedrock of his original Owu Kingdom at the fringe of the Nupe country.As an Orisha, Obatala has some of the largest followings and worshippers both at home and in the Diaspora, being matched perhaps only by Orisha Ogun and Sango adherents.

Source: https://owulakoda./2014/02/28/owu-historical-facts-and-myths/

igbodefender:


Sir, it's either you know the truth and you are trying desperately to hide it or you don't know the truth. Now let me tackle your last post. You say that the first Olowu (Ajibosin) was born by Odua's daughter. Now that is a big.... TRUTH. Now let me ask you, who was the father, who was the husband of this Oduduwa's daughter? he was non other than Obatala, the Oba Igbo, the Obi Osere Igbo, the King of the Igbo Nation. Let me stop here for now, but take a look at the except below:

Obatala: Husband of the first princess of Ile-Ife, Iyunade, and father of Ajibosin, the first Olowu. He was also the Ifa High Priest and Spiritual Consultant to Oduduwa among many other monarchs in the now the West African sub-region. Ifa divination ability was second nature to Obatala being reportedly the son and scholar of Agbonmiregun Setilu, the acclaimed Ifa progenitor from Nupeland. Obatala also had considerable farming interests as the owner of vast cotton plantations located adjacent to the River Niger in the Savannah region, presumably acquired from his vast earnings as an International Ifa Consultant – which earned him the appellation of ‘Olowu’ or cotton owner.

Obatala was larger than life and was no less prominent than Oduduwa, the acclaimed patriarch of the Yorubas. In fact, he has been deified as the head and oldest of the Orishas who created the physical world at the behest of Olodumare.It is also claimed that Obatala had arrived Ile-Ife down a mythical chain long before Oduduwa arrived by similar means, and ruled the people before the latter came to stage a civil war which deposed Obatala as leader. The two were later reconciled and Obatala agreed to assist Oduduwa’s reign through his Ifa Divination.

Oduduwa granted his first daughter, Iyunade, to the Ifa High Priest perhaps as part of their truce concessions.As a roving Ifa consultant, Obatala became very wealthy and invested heavily in vast land holdings in the savannah region which he employed in cotton farming, an occupation that earned him the appellation of Baba-Olowu (cotton lord). Ajibosin was to inherit a large chunk of these which formed the bedrock of his original Owu Kingdom at the fringe of the Nupe country.As an Orisha, Obatala has some of the largest followings and worshippers both at home and in the Diaspora, being matched perhaps only by Orisha Ogun and Sango adherents.

Source: https://owulakoda./2014/02/28/owu-historical-facts-and-myths/

You lied my dear. There was nothing like obi osere. Useremagbo had nothing to do with you people. Get it to your medulla oblongata. Who told you, Obatala was the direct Priest? How many priests existed during Odua period? You make me laugh . This is because, you have begun to turn up as Edo to look for information to hinge on. Kindly inform me more on what you know about the family that made up of ILE IFE? You know nothing bro. If you claim they are Ibos, how come ILE IFE don't have knowledge of ONETARA OF THE IBOS?
If you don't have information to this,then silence yourself. Apart from the information I screenshot,let me inform you that Yoruba language is coded in IFA. So, do yourself the needful.

Olu317:
[s]You lied my dear. There was nothing like obi osere. Useremagbo had nothing to do with you people. Get it to your medulla oblongata. Who told you, Obatala was the direct Priest? How many priests existed during Odua period? You make me laugh . This is because, you have begun to turn up as Edo to look for information to hinge on. Kindly inform me more on what you know about the family that made up of ILE IFE? You know nothing bro. If you claim they are Ibos, how come ILE IFE don't have knowledge of ONETARA OF THE IBOS?
If you don't have information to this,then silence yourself. Apart from the information I screenshot,let me inform you that Yoruba language is coded in IFA. So, do yourself the needful. [/s]

Please, Sir, go and study more of Yoruba history before typing things that put you in bad light, even among people who support your position. You are showing that there is a deep abysds where basic Yoruba history should be in your tank of knowledge. Go and read up or do some research or something to put you up to speed, then come and comment on Nairaland or wherever.

Which true Yoruba historian would attempt to infer that Owu was not fathered by Obatala as you did above? And please, go to an Ifa priest and tell him there is nothing like Obi Osere Igbo and see what would happen. Lol.

Finally, what's with the 'dear' you typed up there. Please, kindly take it out.

igbodefender:
Please, Sir, go and study more of Yoruba history before typing things that put you in bad light, even among people who support your position. You are showing that there is a deep abysds where basic Yoruba history should be in your tank of knowledge. Go and read up or do some research or something to put you up to speed, then come and comment on Nairaland or wherever.

Which true Yoruba historian would attempt to infer that Owu was not fathered by Obatala as you did above? And please, go to an Ifa priest and tell him there is nothing like Obi Osere Igbo and see what would happen. Lol.

Finally, what's with the 'dear' you typed up there. Please, kindly take it out.

I mentioned dear because it does more honour to be humble despite my silver lining. You only replied by showing YOU DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE.SO KINDLY TAKE AWAY NONREALISTIC INFORMATION YOU SEND ONLINE OUT OF YORUBA HISTORY. I CHALLENGE YOU TO DOLE OUT INFORMATION THAT SHOWS “ONETARA" IN YORUBA LAND. PLEASE, PLEASE KEEP OFF FROM WHAT YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE ON.

Olu317:
I mentioned dear because it does more honour to be humble despite my silver lining. You only replied by showing YOU DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE.SO KINDLY TAKE AWAY NONREALISTIC INFORMATION YOU SEND ONLINE OUT OF YORUBA HISTORY. I CHALLENGE YOU TO DOLE OUT INFORMATION THAT SHOWS “ONETARA" IN YORUBA LAND. PLEASE, PLEASE KEEP OFF FROM WHAT YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE ON.

Prove that the Igbo aborigines of Ile Ife are not the Igbo of today, and stop all this you are typing.

By the way, researchers have been commissioned to find out if there are any links between the people of Ife in Osun State and the people of Ife in Imo State.

Igbo, first settlers in Ile-Ife—Igwe Achebe

Igwe Achebe said the Igbo society existed beyond what Achebe recorded in his books, disclosing that a recent history book has ascribed to the Igbo as the original settlers in Ile-Ife and whom Oduduwa met, other than the present contest between the Ife and the Ugbo sections in Yoruba land. 

Igwe Achebe, therefore, tasked the academia in the University of Nigeria to conduct further research that would either authenticate the new study on Igbo settlement.

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com

To read more on this, buy this Kindle eBook: https://www.amazon.com/History-Igbo-World-Ancient-Civilization-ebook/dp/B01K4AIUO8

igbodefender:
Prove that the Igbo aborigines of Ile Ife are not the Igbo of today, and stop all this you are typing.

By the way, researchers have been commissioned to find out if there are any links between the people of Ife in Osun State and the people of Ife in Imo State.

What is their Oriki? You seems to have an idea like some land grabbers . Come to ILE IFE, and tell them that Ibos are the Obatalas. It is then, your eyes will be cleared of the reality . I screenshot work done along Ibos scholars as well ethnographers to show the extent people are studying people's language and their societies. But instead to go through them for a defence, you are here derailing. Have taken your time to study what I screenshot? Or should I infer here, that, are you obsessed to Yoruba Race? Perhaps, a lot of your mind boggling questions will be treated. If you are old enough and you have elderly Yoruba men as mentors or friends , you need to ask them this questions if it was truly that IBO women in past ran away with Yoruba children after being married legally or not married at all but had children for Yoruba men? This was a norm in the 1970s .In fact, my father's distant matrilineal cousins, a boy and girl were taken to the East in early 1970s by her mother ,and the man was about 10 and 8 years respectively and never return. He hasn't been seen since then. If you doubt this allegation, verify from elderly Yoruba men. This is the only way some Ibos may be connected to Yoruba Race. Anything else is false because Ibos are Bantu groups that lived also in Egypt.

Olu317:
What is their Oriki? You seems to have an idea like some land grabbers . Come to ILE IFE, and tell them that Ibos are the Obatalas. It is then, your eyes will be cleared of the reality . I screenshot work done along Ibos scholars as well ethnographers to show the extent people are studying people's language and their societies. But instead to go through them for a defence, you are here derailing. Have taken your time to study what I screenshot? Or should I infer here, that, are you obsessed to Yoruba Race? Perhaps, a lot of your mind boggling questions will be treated. If you are old enough and you have elderly Yoruba men as mentors or friends , you need to ask them this questions if it was truly that IBO women in past ran away with Yoruba children after being married legally or not married at all but had children for Yoruba men? This was a norm in the 1970s .In fact, my father's distant matrilineal cousins, a boy and girl were taken to the East in early 1970s by her mother ,and the man was about 10 and 8 years respectively and never return. He hasn't been seen since then. If you doubt this allegation, verify from elderly Yoruba men. This is the only way some Ibos may be connected to Yoruba Race. Anything else is false because Ibos are Bantu groups that lived also in Egypt.

Nobody is grabbing any land. Ile Ife and Lagos, etc., remain Yoruba Land. Learn to distinguish between history and landgrabbing. As for some of the other things you asked about, the Igwe of Onitsha has asked the University of Nigeria to conduct further research. One is sure there will be more discoveries on the subject matter.

opal4real:
The word Yoruba orginated during or after the Kiriji war. Each tribe in the now SouthWest has different names for their tribes.

The most General word used to describe the people of South West was Lukumi or Ulkumi or Olukumi. Most Yoruba's in the West Indies still refer to themselves as Lukumi.

The Ugbo's are different from the Igbos. The Ugbos they were chased out of Ife by Prince Ekaladerhan aka Oduduwa are the Ilajes in present day Ondo state.

Guy, save your breath. Everyone has been telling them the exact same thing that you are saying here, but no... they prefer to manufacture a non-existent attachment that is blatantly fake, between the Nd'Igbo and the people of Ile-Ife. Silly revisionists!

laudate:


Guy, save your breath. Everyone has been telling them the exact same thing that you are saying here, but no... they prefer to manufacture a non-existent attachment that is blatantly fake, between the Nd'Igbo and the people of Ile-Ife. Silly revisionists!

Guy, there is no tribe like Nd'Igbo. Nd'Igbo simply means Igbo People in Igbo language. The name of the tribe is Igbo, Ibo- some spell it as Ebo, Eboe, Egbo, etc. Same tribe/ethnic group.

igbodefender:
Guy, there is no tribe like Nd'Igbo. Nd'Igbo simply means Igbo People in Igbo language. The name of the tribe is Igbo, Ibo- some spell it as Ebo, Eboe, Egbo, etc. Same tribe/ethnic group.

Guy, I purposely used Nd'Igbo in my response, to indicate that I was talking about the present day Igbo people of the South East. Why are you upset because I did not write Igbo tribe, in full?

bigfrancis21:
Ijebu Igbos have Igbo ancestry in them!

This Yoruba daughter of Ijebu Igbo took a DNA test to determine how much percentage Yoruba she is and received the following shocking news of her life!



This 'Yoruba' girl is actually more of Igbo in her genetic make-up despite being from Ijebu-Igbo (mere 25% yoruba gene in her), and this might be the case applicable to many Ijebu-Igbos today.

I thought as much.