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Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by DECOtech(m): 6:37pm On Jul 09, 2014
Siena:
To cap it all, the glorious V8 rumble. Awesome sound track, especially if running straight-through pipes. cool[/color]
oooooh... Like music to my heart! Ride on Siena.
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 9:24pm On Jul 09, 2014
Mini update!

I paid the bodyshop a visit today, actually two visits - briefly during my lunch break, and the other after work.

The bed lid frame is done. During my break visit, I looked over the work. The gas strut fittings on the bed lid frame were not in line with the fitting points on the bed itself. So I gave instructions, for the fittings on the frame to be spaced out, so they were in line with the pivots on the bed.

That has been sorted out. The tie-down hook recess on the other side of the bed has been plated over, so it's looking good. Then the holes left on the wheel arch tubs, after removing the rear roll bar has also been plated over.

So tomorrow, the shop can get on with other aspects of the work. Saturday, I'll be taking the bed lid frame back to the fabricator, so he can skin it, and weld in a tab for the latch. Then I'll be back to the shop to over sea things.

Some pictures - again, my apologies for the quality, I'll take high-res pictures once the paint starts going on.

The frame is now supported by the hydraulic rams. Enough to actually force the frame up from the bed. The weight of the steel skin will damp that somewhat.


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Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 9:30pm On Jul 09, 2014
More pictures - note the wheel arch tubs have been welded over. The old steel that would have been underneath has been cut out. It was starting to rust from the holes, which removal of the rear roll bar left behind:

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Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 9:34pm On Jul 09, 2014
More:

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Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by billy187(m): 9:03pm On Jul 10, 2014
Finally i'm back! i've been looking for this thread for some time now! Guess the breakdown, or whatever it was had its few advantages!
Congrats sienna! You really make my evenings quite interesting! I was wondering, have u done the engine swap already? If not, i wouldda suggested you do it before you throw on a paint job, especially one as expensive as the one you may be using!

Here in Ghana, mechs kinda care less 'bout aesthetic factors when such jobs are done.....however if you are really confident in your mechs, dont mind me!

Cheers!
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 9:47pm On Jul 10, 2014
Thanks, Billy.

The engine swap hasn't been done yet, but it'll be fine, even with fresh paint, my engine swaps don't leave any traces. wink
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 11:16pm On Jul 10, 2014
Am I the only one seeing that lovely Audi A7?
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 11:19pm On Jul 10, 2014
cne010: Am I the only one seeing that lovely Audi A7?

Well spotted!
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by yungboss(m): 10:15am On Jul 11, 2014
Looks like one of those Maseratis...
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 8:20am On Jul 12, 2014
Today is lift day - just need to drill out the 4 rivets in the fuel filler neck shroud, then the bed is completely separated from the frame.

I'm also taking the bed lid frame to my fabricator, where it will have its steel skin welded into place.

Another job today is pulling the tow hitch. It's just something I'll never use, so it has to go. I'll be putting it up for sale at some point.

I pulled the trigger on a 2" body lift kit a couple of minutes ago. There is a seller (Dan?) on one of the fora, but from what I've gathered reading through posts in his sales thread, he hasn't been on in a while. Family commitments. But as the bed is being lifted today, I want the lift kit to be here for when it all goes back together after paint.

Looking at Tuesday for delivery.
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 7:43pm On Jul 12, 2014
Not much to update today - I drove into work, picked up a van, then went to the bodyshop to pick up the bed lid frame. That has now been dropped off at the fabricators, so it can be skinned. That should be ready sometime in the week, and returned to the bodyshop for prepping.

I did manage to remove the tow hitch, man, what a b!tch! I was expecting the bed and cab-to-frame bolts to be crazy tight and seized, seeing as they'd been on the truck for 11 years, but the tow hitch bolts and nuts were solid. I bust two 19mm sockets, one 1/2" drive ratchet, a stubby 1/2" drive, and the damn thing almost bust my wrist.

The trusty blow torch was pressed into active service. Some of the bolts came undone when they were heated, and glowing cherry red. I was left with two, that actually bolt into captive nuts (where the stock rear bumper brackets fit). The captives broke free, so these stubborn mules had to be roasted, till they were molten, and fell out.

I was surprised at the weight of the hitch, it's no lightweight, and I was glad to lose it. Besides not being of any use to me, it would certainly upset the clean look I'm after.
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 8:15pm On Jul 12, 2014
The offending lump of pig iron - I wonder what this lot weighs?

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Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by ivoryhouse(m): 1:50pm On Jul 13, 2014
Bravo Sienna, great job! I have a small issue, please look on the new thread I created to solve it. Thanks
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 3:24pm On Jul 13, 2014
ivoryhouse: Bravo Sienna, great job! I have a small issue, please look on the new thread I created to solve it. Thanks

Thanks bruh. smiley

Link to your thread, or the title?
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 5:21pm On Jul 15, 2014
My 2" body lift kit turned up today.

I'll be fitting this once the bed is ready to go back onto the frame, and the cab is painted too. So pretty much after my truck comes out of paint.

I sprayed copious amounts of WD-40 onto all 6 cab-to-frame bolts and nuts, and did so daily for 2 weeks, prior to the truck going into the shop, so they should all come off easily. The bed bolts were okay coming off with an impact wrench, with just the two 17mm ones at the rear giving me any real grief.
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 11:34pm On Jul 15, 2014
I thought I'd try out my new camera, high-resolution, as opposed to my usual crappy iPhone pictures. Still need to get to grips with the myriad of settings.

2" body lift kit:


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Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by mybad: 11:08am On Jul 16, 2014
Oga Siena, i wonder if its my computer or your camera co can't view any more pictures of the van starting with the picture of the pig iron.
I would like to try my hands on a project like this one if i can lay my hands on a not so beaten van from the UK.
How much will one like that cost me.
Just so we can have the Nigerian version.
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 8:24pm On Jul 16, 2014
mybad: Oga Siena, i wonder if its my computer or your camera co can't view any more pictures of the van starting with the picture of the pig iron.
I would like to try my hands on a project like this one if i can lay my hands on a not so beaten van from the UK.
How much will one like that cost me.
Just so we can have the Nigerian version.

It might be your browser settings, all the pictures are visible to all my devices, even when I'm not logged on.

Toyota Hilux seem to have strong residual values, meaning even a 15-year-old truck commands strong money. They can however be had fairly cheap, it all depends on condition, who's selling, and why they're selling.
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 10:07pm On Jul 16, 2014
I had a 2007 Land Cruiser Colorado in today, that needed a clutch. I got the job of stripping it down, and replacing the clutch (3 piece).

I did have a good look at the suspension, particularly the rear. I have always preferred coil springs, as opposed to the leaf spring set-up the Hilux was blessed with.

I also had a MK5 single cabin truck in for a service, so I was able to have both the truck and SUV on vehicle hoists, next to each other.

There are some similarities at the rear. The Land Cruiser rear axle locating bar forward brackets (as welded to the chassis frame) are 25.5" away from the axle tubes. The same as the Hilux's rear axle leaf spring forward brackets, in terms of dimensions. Of course, the Hilux axle tubes don't have the welded on brackets to accept the locating bars, but they can be welded in.

And spring platforms won't be difficult to weld onto the axle and chassis frame.

I am also looking at ways to get rid of the front torsion bars. But, there's no rush, time is on my side.
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by lungwun(m): 11:08am On Jul 17, 2014
Sorry Siena for the slight thread derailment. I was wondering if it was at all possible to do an engine swap on a UK spec 03 Reg 2.0L Accord sport manual tranny and shoe horn the US spec 3.0 V6 whilst retaining the original manual transmission.

I would have created a new thread but I feel it would be pointless to.

If you, however, feel i need to create a new thread, please do let me know and i shall do so ASAP.

Regards
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 11:30am On Jul 17, 2014
Lungwun, the 3.0 V6 will physically fit within the engine bay of the UK-spec I4 car.

However , the gearbox bellhousing has a different bolt pattern. You would need to either source a manual gearbox with a bellhousing compatible with the V6, or get an adapter plate made up.
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by DECOtech(m): 11:11pm On Jul 18, 2014
Hello Siena. Didn't anything happen today? More power to your elbow.
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 12:55am On Jul 19, 2014
DECOtech: Hello Siena. Didn't anything happen today? More power to your elbow.

Not much updates during the week bro, due to work commitments. Tomorrow (Saturday) is a different matter, so stay tuned. wink

Thank you for your kind words.
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 8:54pm On Jul 19, 2014
Today, a few days later than planned, was bed-lift day.

The bed had just been sitting on the frame since the days the truck went in, all 8 bolts removed. It was surprisingly lighter than I thought it would be, needing just three of us to lift it clear of the frame. I ended up drilling out the 4 rivets that secure the fuel filler funnel / bezel to the bed. I planed to take the advise of undoing the worm clips that secure the 2 hoses to the filler neck, but after looking at the corrosion on the screws, I decided not to bother. Besides, leaving the filler neck attached, meant the fuel tank was not open to the atmosphere. Diesel isn't volatile, but still...

I must admit, I was half looking forward to a rotten frame, to give me the perfect excuse to locate an Extra Cab and matching frame, but it was fine. Some surface rust, under the dried mud. I spent an hour with a sanding disc and wire wheel, mounted on an angle grinder and drill respectively.

It was good to see the truck bed less, as it gave me an opportunity to see normally hidden items.

I also found out why my rear differential lock has never worked since I got the truck. The short harness is damaged. The warning light actuator connector is fine, but the multi plug to the lock itself has NO connection to the controller up front. The 5 wires are all broken - the outer sheath has become hard and brittle, and all the wires are shot. I suppose I could clean them up, expose their ends, and solder them back in place, but in view of how short the harness is, I'm ordering a replacement from my dealership. Being a Toyota Diagnostic Technician DOES have it's perks.

The rear brake compensator / load valve is also shot. The operating lever is pretty much seized, I managed to get it moving, but again, a replacement valve is the best solution.

The rear differential breather - well, what can I say? Seized solid. I'm going to replace it with a genuine Toyota part, extended to an area free of underbody spray. As this truck is being built mostly for tarmac use, I don't see any reason to purchase a fancy kit.

Cleaning of the frame will be completed on Monday, then it can be under sealed. The same goes for under the bed itself.

Today makes it 4 weeks since my truck went I to the shop. Despite the 4 day delay in lifting the bed, we're still on schedule. I'll post pictures once I've downloaded them from my camera.
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 11:45pm On Jul 19, 2014
Some pictures. I would say they're all self explanatory. I never realised how small the truck is without the bed!

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Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 11:48pm On Jul 19, 2014
Some more. Cleaning up the frame:

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Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by GAZZUZZ(m): 2:14am On Jul 20, 2014
Siena: Some pictures. I would say they're all self explanatory. I never realised how small the truck is without the bed!

Looks like a wet chiken lol,ur doing a great job.
Following.................
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by uboma(m): 9:39am On Jul 20, 2014
Siena: Some pictures. I would say they're all self explanatory. I never realised how small the truck is without the bed!

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That's a complete overhaul u got there and capital intensive too. Can't wait to see the end result.

More grease to your elbows.
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 10:27am On Jul 20, 2014
Thanks, Uboma.
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 11:01am On Jul 20, 2014
I am considering junking the stock steering box in my 2003 MK5 Single Cabin 4x4, in favour of a steering rack.

And yes, I'm aware this won't be a bolt-in solution, and will most certainly require welding mounting tabs onto the frame, and locating allowing the track rod ends to reach the steering knuckles on the hubs. And still clearing other obstacles.

I would be using a manual steering rack, using an electronically-assisted steering column from a 2013 Toyota Prius (which I already have).

Whilst the steering box works well enough, it lacks the directness of a rack and pinion set-up. I drove a 1999 Tacoma, which is as close to the KDN165 Hilux as you could get, and the difference between the Taco and any MK5 is like night and day.

The MK6 isn't really directly comparable, as it's a much larger and heavier truck.

I think a rack would transform the handling of a MK5.
Re: Siena's MK5 Toyota Hilux Customisation Project - "Apple Candy". by Nobody: 11:03am On Jul 20, 2014
2013 Toyota Prius electronic steering column (EMPS):

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